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1321  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you remember when Twitch banned gambling? Now they allow nudity! on: December 16, 2023, 05:48:13 AM
Here we can see the double standards of Twitch's developers. Gambling was condemned as something outrageous, but nudity is fine as family friendly content...

Why do you think gambling has been being treated in a different manner by Twitch?

This is not a double standard but the only standard for twitch and other centralized platforms. The problem is that these are centralized bodies and they can make whatever decision they like or think is good for their own self. We, as an audience, have no rights other than to boycott the Twitch in case we feel that they are making double standard rules and allowing things like porn that may be bad for society.

By then, how many people will boycott? the number will be very few, so less that it won't have any effect on the Twitch platform and user base. This is why we need these platforms to be replaced by the decentralized ones where the decision will be taken by the public.
1322  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: December 16, 2023, 05:12:34 AM
Pakistani were feeling comfortable after reducing UAE19 for this target, but their collapse brings them down, and now they are leaking themselves with Indian also fail to give their best and all out for the 188 which chased by Bangladesh team easily, and now they are going to have final spot.

Pakistan team can win if when they have a lead so they should use it, firstly, in 60 balls 51 runs were needed for Pakistan to win and at that time Pakistan lost 8 wickets but somehow they managed some runs and after that, Pakistan needed 36 runs in 50 balls and in between this a bowler did a no ball which gave the lead to Pakistan and then that situation was coming when they had a lead of 14 runs so they should maintain that but after some balls, Pakistan needed 24 runs in 25 balls.

That was the point where the game started intense and in the last over Pakistan needed 12 runs in 6 balls but after two balls Mohammed Zeeshan lost his wicket and the last wicket came and after two again Pakistan lost the wicket of Ubaid Shah and Pakistan team lost the match because Pakistan team has been all out.
1323  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do Owners of betting companies bet? on: December 16, 2023, 04:54:06 AM
I can see your point, however when it comes to lotteries and other similar gambling games it is stated very clearly that anyone which is part of that business or their family cannot participate on it, and if they do they will not be paid the prize they could have received.

This is done as a way to avoid those employees manipulating the results in their favour, and since the owner of a casino is in a position similar to that, it should be better for them to not do this, as a way to avoid the temptation of manipulating the results on their favor as well.


How are you sure that the family of the casino do not participate in the lottery? Sometimes i  think that even if they do not participate the lottery is always given to some near and dear ones, it is hardly a fair lottery. This becomes even more true when we consider the manual lottery, where there is no check and balance.

Also sometimes these lotteries scam us by collecting the minimal amount of money to participate in the lottery but when it comes to the time of results, they give it to some dummy numbers (people) and since we do not have visibility on how they calculated the winner's among the participants, we can only settle and tell ourself that we were unlucky on another lottery.
1324  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: December 15, 2023, 02:20:58 PM
Big big upset happening at the Asian Cricket Council Under-19s Asia Cup. Pakistan struggling against United Arab Emirates, after the latter set them a target of 194 runs. Pakistan are 173-8 and they need 21 runs from 11 balls with just 2 wickets remaining. Last 5 overs have seen just 12 runs being scored and one wicket fell during this period. Mohammad Zeeshan is at the crease along with Ali Asfand and they are struggling against the combination of Omid Rehman and Ayman Ahamed. If they can stay cool under pressure, then UAE can pull this off.

I can't believe my eyes, as two upsets happened in the two semi finals of the U19 Asia Cup.

UAE defeated Pakistan by 11 runs and in the other match Bangladesh defeated India by 4 wickets. Everyone would have thought that India and Pakistan are favorite to win their semi finals and both the teams may meet in the final of the U19 Asia Cup final, but not to be. Both UAE and Bangladesh surprised us and win their matches.

The big final between the two teams will be played on Sunday in Dubai.
1325  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gamblers trickily claims they wins the bet while they never did. on: December 15, 2023, 01:53:40 PM
Don't be deceived, not every gamblers who actually claims that they won really won.
Some falsefully speculates that they won just because they want to pave an ease to those who has been advising them to quit or limits gambling simply because the gambler has been unlucky to win instead he keep betting over and over without a good bankroll management in their gambling carriers.
They basically do this because they feels disturbed and inconveniences of the people's opinions and advices towards the gamblers unprofitable gambling experiences

When I first read your post, I thought you were talking about the gamblers who may deceive the gambling sites but that is obviously not possible.

Yes, the gamblers may tell other that they have won so no one stops them. But this false statement won't last long, because the family will demand from the gamblers if he won money, why not spend on them but in fact they will see that the gambler is actually making use of the household money and the claim of win is just a false statement.

For outside people and friends, other than those who live in the gambler's house, he may tell the falsely that he is a successful gambler and wins more than he loses. Those people may believe him because they do not live in his house and they never know how he lives and carry out his day to day expenses.
1326  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: December 15, 2023, 12:01:20 PM
In the first semi-final of the Asian Cricket Council Under-19s Asia Cup, UAE-U19 gave a target of 194 runs in 50 overs. The target once seemed so easy and achievable for the Pakistan-U19 because of their recent form, but it appeared that the target was enough to trouble this team. Pakistan-U19 is now 7 wickets down, and they need another 65 runs to win the match. UAE-U19 has more chances of winning this contest.

The match of Pakistan vs United Arad Emirates was almost won by Pakistan, but UAE bounced back and but still i think that the final of the Asia Cup will be played between Pakistan and Bangladesh U19 team.

Because on the other side Indian team was playing like United Arad Emirates, even United Arab Emirates played better than India, and United Arab Emirates have a competition with a very good team so we can say that United Arab Emirates can't be played well because they had not a good team that can face Pakistan but India is a wonderful team, and they had a very good record and they face Bangladesh so how shameful is this for India because no.1 team will lose with a poor team who had not to get a chance to qualify for the big events sometime.

Both the semi-finals can be watched live on the Asian Cricket Council YouTube channel.

Link: https://www.youtube.com/@AsianCricketCouncilTV
1327  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: A gambler takes his own life after a loss. on: December 15, 2023, 11:46:46 AM
Honestly, I am very sad to learn about this unfortunate incident, this is one of those things that happen in gambling and it just gives gambling a bad name  and make it look like a taboo for anyone to engage in it, why on earth will a full grown man like this take his own life simply because of a loss of $3000, people loss up to $20,000, $50,000 in gamblimg and still move on with their normal lives, if $3000 was too much for him to lose in gambling, why did he stake it?

I don't think it will give gambling a bad name in the sense that gambling took a life of a person. I guess no, this does not happen. In fact the gambler himself is responsible for what he did. There are moderate gamblers too who gamble for years and years and yet they will never dare to take such steps which may cost them their lives.


This is such a bad news, and I hope that we all can learn even more lessons from this, always gamble with not more than you can afford to lose, gambling is risky, to be on the safer side, gambling primary for fun and let the profit be secondary, this is something Ive seen other users say here, and I am still joining them to say same thing.

Yes, this incident can be a lesson for other gamblers, especially the ones who are new and do not know how far this gambling can take them and how it can influence our emotions to take such bold steps.
1328  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: December 15, 2023, 06:32:43 AM
Pakistani pacers attacked on UAE U19 team, and the United Arab Emirates batsmen have been confused and nervous by seeing the bowling of Pakistani pacers.

Just another wicket fell of the United Arab Emirates, and this wicket was hit by Amir Hassan, and now the other remaining batsmen conform losing their confidence, and if the Pakistan team puts pressure on them so I am sure that UAE can't make runs and they came in under pressure, Pakistani pacers can only save Pakistan in this match.

The batsmen of UAE try to hit boundaries and that's why hit up the bat and ball on the bat but not the middle and the ball goes too up but lands in the safe hands of fielders.

The match of Pakistan v UAE was very interesting and Pakistani bowlers played very well against UAE batsmen and if you note so you see that Aryanish hit cover drives again and again to just Mohammed Zeeshan he didn't hit any cover drive against other bowlers, but when Mohammed Zeeshan come on bowling so he just hit cover drive but Mohammed Zeeshan also knew him so he set boundaries where he can't hit a cover drive and just now, he tries to hit cover drive but fielder comes and by chance, the fielder dropped the catch of Mohammed Zeeshan the fielder name is Riaz.
1329  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Women's Cricket Prediction & Discussion - T20 & ODI on: December 15, 2023, 06:09:13 AM
New Zealand Women VS Pakistan Women
The second match of New Zealand Women vs Pakistan Women ODI series has started. Today's match is very important for Pakistan women as they are behind after losing the first match by a huge margin. Pakistan women must win today's match if they want to draw level. If Pakistan lose today then the series will be lost. Both the teams will try to do well in today's game. However, today Pakistan women lost the toss and got a chance to bat, so far Pakistan have collected 58 runs for the loss of 4 wickets in 18 overs. Pakistan Women's top order batsmen are all out, with the opening batsman getting out on the very first ball which has put Pakistan Women under pressure. We saw that New Zealand women played brilliantly in the first match scoring 365 runs. So Pakistan women have to give a target of at least 300 runs to win today. Natalia Pervaiz and Fatima Sana are at the crease and these two should form a good partnership. If they both get out quickly, Pakistan women will not be able to score more than 150. Let's see how many runs Pakistan women can target.

No one from the Pakistan women's team was comforted to play against the New Zealand women's team bowlers, all the batsmen of Pakistan came to waste the balls but the captain came and played like a captain, I mean Fatima Sana, she played very well in batting and bowling, right now she doing bowling sometime before she did batting and she did a wonderful else others batsmen of Pakistan women's team can't able to make 140 runs together. At this time, New Zealand just lost their two important wickets and both wickets were taken by Fatima Sana.

If Pakistan were able to win this match, all credit would go to their captain Fatima Sana, who is doing a remarkable job in both the batting and bowling.
1330  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: December 15, 2023, 05:29:34 AM
Pakistan women vs New Zealand women.

After winning a historic T20I series against New Zealand, Pakistani women team is playing ODI series. First ODI was one sided and New Zealand grilled Pakistan team. Today in second ODI Pakistan women team are down and out, 132/5 in 37 overs. Fatima Sana the skipper trying to do some repair, she is not out on 44. Seems like Pakistan won't be able to cross 200.

Just New Zealand women's batting started and Pakistani women didn't give them any opportunity to make runs because they gave very poor for New Zealand women so they should try to do bowling that can't be played by New Zealand women if they want to win this series and match because if they win this match so they had a confidence to win, and both wickets took by Fatima Sana.

She also did very well batting if she didn't bat well so Pakistan gave the target around 130 but Fatima Sana reached 90 runs, which helped Pakistan in this match.

New Zealand have lost two early wickets and are two down for only 26 runs. Amelia Kerr  was out on 4 runs while their captain Sophie Devine made only 6 runs.
1331  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod] on: December 15, 2023, 05:08:58 AM
Yes Australia is really showing very good performance they play very well in ODI, T20 and in test match they scored 336 runs in the first innings against Pakistan on the first day and lost only five wickets which means they can collect more runs.  Their first innings performance suggests that they will win the Test match against Pakistan. Australia has become very proficient in the game of cricket. And they seem to be doing very well in almost every match.

Australia no doubt is looking to finish the match with an innings win. I am saying this as we all know that Pakistan batsmen go under a lot of pressure when they see a big target in front of them, they would usually collapse. The Australian team have this thing in mind and therefore they won't declare this innings.

I think Australia will give Pakistan a target of at least 700 runs with two innings in this test match against Pakistan and it will not be possible for Pakistan to win the match beyond this score.

I am not sure if the Australian team can reach 700 runs because they are already 7 wickets down with a score of 476. Although Mitchell Marsh is not out at 90 runs and can go on to make a big hundred, they do not have a lot of wickets on the other end. Still, I expect them to make anything around 550 runs and if they are really lucky, they can stretch this to 600 runs,
1332  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: A gambler takes his own life after a loss. on: December 14, 2023, 05:47:49 PM
There is no loss which can be justified for taking own life, deeply saddened to see such disturbing news and the wort part is the fact that it's not the first time we have seen such news. I don't usually post in Gambling section but I think one shouldn't gamble more than what they can afford to live, there are some basic rules let it be for future trading or gambling that people only invest the amount which doesn't affect them financially as it's a gamble and our livelihood shouldn't be placed at risk.

It should be known to all that gambling is risky and therefore they should think many times before investing and playing with any money, as the loss will be for the gambler and the win shall be for the gambler too. Life is more important than anything but sometimes people become too greedy, take too bold steps and then things go out of control, then they have no option but to take bold steps like suicide and others.

It's my humble request to all those who gamble to never gamble more than you can lose and nothing matters more than your life as one can go from zero to millions but life cannot be revived.

This has been told to gamblers many times and the ones who are active here on bitcointalk know this golden rule very well that do not gamble with money which you can't afford to lose but when we gamble, we become too emotional and greedy that we forget everything and make such moves, they cost us our precious belonging of our lives.
1333  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod] on: December 14, 2023, 04:20:47 PM
This Australian team is very experienced. They have performed well in the World Cup. If this Australian squad had played in the T20 series against India, then Australia would not have lost so badly against India. Australia and Pakistan will play three Test matches in this series. Australia has more chances to win all three matches. Either Australia will win or the match will be a draw. But I expect Australia to win the first match. Australian batsmen did very well in the first innings. Especially Warner's innings of 164 runs was much needed. Australia will collect at least 450 runs in the first innings.

Aamer Jamal played very well in this match against Australian very good team, you can also say that he out the players who made their team to the champion of the recent World Cup that was held in India and the players who lost their wickets Aamer Jamal led their team to the win of this ODI world Cup against the biggest team India. He took the wicket of that who hit boundaries against Shaheen, Kurram Shezad and others pacers but Aamer Jamal out him and his name was David Warner, he also took the wicket of Travis Head.

Although is not a popular or Senior name in the Pakistan bowling, but he was the most successful bowler on the first day. He took 2 wickets in his 12 overs he bowled today.
1334  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Which one is fun, watching with bet or without a bet? on: December 14, 2023, 03:59:04 PM
Personally I am so excited watching the game exactly on sport betting with teams bet, its make adrenaline pressure when watching teams performance good or not exactly with the last minutes match always have an unpredictable thing with VAR controversial until have any goal is annulled by the referee. But not all teams I bet watch the match and just check awhile on score update but if still have excited I will watch it and seeing my choose right or not.

If we place a bet on a match and the team on whom we place the bet is winning, then in that case it is enjoyable and fun to watch the sports. However if our team is losing, then it is very stressful situation and even if the match is close or thrilling, we will not enjoy watching that sport because we are losing the bet.
Even after the match, we will be sad, not because our team lost the match, but we lost the money on the match bet.


I think watching the games very interested because we can predicting match result will potential for winning or not regarding team performance, if can't watch all matches I will update score only and looking which one teams still not raise my expectation for watching.

If someone says that do not watch the match, after placing a bet on the match, then it is also a very difficult situation because once you place the bet you will be willing to watch each and every moment of the match because if you do not follow the match, you will remain in suspense as which team is winning and it will add to your anxiety.
1335  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod] on: December 14, 2023, 03:17:11 PM
Yes ,you are right. In my opinion, Pakistan will lose this match because David Warner is very dangerous player and he is top class batsman and no batsman can play like David Warner at these pitches. After 1 day of test match Australia made 345 runs with fall of 5 wickets. Now, Mitchell Marsh and Alex Carey are on crease and they are good players and they will take the score to 450+ and Pakistan is not that kind of team that can chase that kind of big score. In my opinion, Pakistan will lose this match by heavy margin. And if Pakistan draws that match , that is bravery from Pakistan in this situation.

David Warner completed his 150 in this match. He played very well, and he also hit 4 sixes and 16 fours, he played like a T10. By the way, the other team isn't able to make at least 50 runs but if you have David Warner so what is the meaning of problem? Usman Khawaja was too near to the half-century, he almost played 100 and completed 50 runs but sadly he lost his wicket when he made 41 runs, he missed his half-century by 40 runs, he should have completed his half-century he almost used 100 balls.

David Warner made a century, and he played extremely well, he was too near to making 200 runs, by the way, I have not confirmed that maybe this is the last test series of David Warner and if is it so I know that he will be in form in this series.
1336  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Pakistan Super League #PSL Discussion Thread on: December 14, 2023, 02:38:19 PM
Finally its time for the PSL 2024  Smiley

The PSL Draft for 2024 is finished, and the unbelievable things happened in this Draft. First of all, as you all know, Mohammad Amir left Karachi King, and when he left it other franchises wanted him, every franchise tried to pick him but Quetta Gallidator picked him and this is a very big deal, because since when PSL started Amir was playing for Karachi Kings and he led Karachi to trophy just one time, now we see Amir playing under Sarfraz captaincy once again after 2019 World Cup, by the way, he also doesn't played any international match after that World Cup.

There was good interest from the foreign players, as a total of 485 overseas players registered for the draft. And nice to see some of the associate players getting retained (such as David Wiese from Namibia, who was retained by Lahore Qalandars). Rilee Rossouw has moved to Quetta Gladiators, and this is going to be a big boost for them. Kieron Pollard will play for Karachi Kings and Rassie van der Dussen will represent Lahore Qalandars. Tim Seifert, Dawid Malan, Noor Ahmad, Sherfane Rutherford and Reece Topley are some of the overseas players picked during yesterday's draft. So overall, it looks quite exciting with a number of star players featuring in the league next year.


Yes, i also happened to know about this draft on social media and good to see some names here from the International Cricket arena who will be coming to Pakistan to play the PSL. I think after IPL, PSL seems to be the most popular tournament, especially for Asian countries.


Do we have the final agenda for next year's PSL with dates of matches and venues? By the way, when is PSL starting?

Here is the summary of the draft for the PSL 2024.

 










1337  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: December 14, 2023, 02:18:46 PM
Bangladesh players played well against Sri Lanka U19. Bangladeshi players have been able to show dominance in both batting and bowling. Bangladesh's Wasi Siddique bowled brilliantly. He gave only 32 runs in 10 overs and managed to pick up three wickets. Also Jibon and Raby's bowling was quite good. Due to the good bowling of the Bangladeshi bowlers, the Sri Lankan team could only give a target of 201. With the help of Bangladeshi opener Shibli's unbeaten 116 runs, Bangladesh managed to win this match very easily. I consider Bangladesh Under-19 team as favorite to win this year's Asia Cup title.
Bangladesh U19 team got an easy win against Sri Lanka U19 team. Bangladesh's opening batsman's brilliant performance in the second innings changed the course of the game. In all types of games I have noticed that if the opening batsmen do well then all the other batsmen in the team get a chance to perform better than expected. Bangladesh bowled first and managed to restrict Sri Lanka within relatively few runs, on the contrary, the batsmen of Bangladesh performed their duties properly, that's why Bangladesh got an easy win in this match against Sri Lanka.

Tomorrow is the first and second semi-final of the U19 Asia Cup. In the first Semi-Final Pakistan U19 team and the UAE U19 team will meet and play the match against of each other.

If we check the previous results of the Pakistan team in this World Cup so we can relate that Pakistan U19 had good performances in the previous matches of this Asia Cup, and on the other hand United Arab Emirates also had good performances but not like a Pakistan, United Arab Emirates played but on that group where United Arab Emirates played there are small teams like Japan, Bangladesh, and Sri Lanka but Pakistan team had match against tuff teams.
1338  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod] on: December 14, 2023, 02:08:19 PM
Pakistan don't have good test record in Australia. Last time they won a test in Australia was in 1995 and today the performance is not much different. On stumps, Aussies have scored 346 runs and still half of the team still to bat. Aussies may score 500 runs tomorrow and it won't be easy for Pakistan to level that score. Aamer Jamal the debutant was the most successful bowler on day 1 with 2 wickets.

Today was the first day of the first test match of Pakistan vs Australia and in this match Australian team played very well, their focus was on just one thing which was just make runs because their bowlers charged Babar Azam so they knew that Babar Azam make more and more runs so that's why they made runs unstoppable, and Australian charged Babar Azam, actually,  before the one day of match all Australian and also the captain Pat Cummins has said that we will try to out Babar Azam because if he start so we can't stop it.

We will see if Babar Azam will keep up with the expectations of their own team and also meet the expectations of Pat Cummins.
Anyways the first day clearly belongs to the Australian team.
1339  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: T20 and T20I cricket prediction and discussion on: December 14, 2023, 03:47:55 AM
India tour of South Africa

The last day occurred the 2nd T20 match between  India and South Africa. South Africa won by 5 wickets. South Africa led the 3-match series 1-0. Reeza Hendricks was the most attacking batsman against India. His outstanding batting was remarkable. He only played 27 balls and got the score of 49 runs. 8.6 chipped to the man at cover! Only last ball he pushed one to the man there, failing to beat him, and this time he gifts him Surya a catch to his left. You can see the all South African player's batting scores.
Reeza Hendricks has been a bit unlucky for sometime now, after batting quite good he has been unable to score a 50. South African played very well yesterday but they did had a bit of luck due to DLS. The Indian seam attack was not the effective with Arshdeep giving out too many runs. I still feel that South Africa would win the series as this Indian side is full of new players.

The Indian team defeated against South African players, the rain came on the ground and then the DLS method was started and the DLS method decision was not good for South Africa but they tried to play like Spiderman so they just focused on chasing the target, South African made 154 runs in just 13 overs so imagine if they had 20 overs so what they can do against India.
Between South Africa and  India had a different of land and sky, the land was India and the sky was South Africa. South Africa is much better than the Indian cricket team.
Lets hope India bounces back in the next match and do not let the south African team with the series win.
1340  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are successful gamblers seen as addicts? on: December 13, 2023, 05:53:43 PM
It is not possible to become addicted to gambling but gain from gambling. When a gambler is too addicted to gambling, he makes more wrong decisions than right ones, causing him to lose money instead of making money. A gambler who is addicted to gambling may not earn money by gambling, but when he is out of gambling addiction, he can gain from gambling by making the right decision. I was addicted to gambling at one time and I realized that it took me a long time to get out of gambling addiction and I was able to get out. During the time when I was addicted to gambling, I used to make more wrong decisions in gambling but when I came out of this addiction, many wins came in my favor through the right decisions. I said from my opinion that as long as a gambler is addicted to gambling he cannot make a profit.
A gambling addict can also win, but that will not stop him from gambling. There is even a possibility that he feels that he has received additional capital to gamble longer, so he will continue gambling. It is very difficult to realize that someone is addicted to gambling, but you can get out of gambling even though it takes a long time. But when we compare them with successful gamblers, they are not gambling addicts who gamble continuously because successful gamblers know how to use gambling and do not consider it as a place to make money or want to gamble for a long time. They have many things that most gamblers don't have, and they also know when they gamble and when they stop gambling. And it is true that a gambler who is addicted to gambling will often make wrong decisions, and that is different from successful gamblers in making decisions where successful gamblers can make good use of their time in gambling so that they can get out on time.

Well first of all , gambling addicts will not quit in gambling whether he wins or loses in gambling, isn't it ? If a gambler wins in gambling then no one will call him addicted even if he is doing excessive gambling or irresponsible gambling. The reason is that once the money is coming to a person no one will considered it bad and no one will try to find the source of that money whether it is true responsible gambling or irresponsible gambling.

Also think for a second that a person is doing excessive gambling and he is winning a lot of money and then suddenly you come up and told tell him that you are addicted and you should stop gambling then what he will do ?
he will just laugh at you and ask you to go away because he doesn't want to stop his income source.

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