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1361  Economy / Speculation / Re: BREAKING NEWS: First time MtGox Bid Volume depth fully visible since inception on: February 14, 2014, 02:58:06 AM
I'm new , can anyone explain me what OP's mtgox graph suggest?

That he doesn't understand what he is talking about.

Can you tell me what OP understand of it, and what you do understand?

Yes. See previous posts. Understand them.
1362  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 14, 2014, 02:55:22 AM
Gox is shit we know this. But they are the biggest. They have over 1 million customers. And if they lose trust in BTC and the exchanges, who will push the price up again?

Yeah, they are the biggest pile of shit. They have over 1 million idiots. If those idiots lose trust in BTC, BTC will be minus 1 million idiots.

I'll take it.
1363  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 14, 2014, 02:53:59 AM
When bulls make fun of bears, then it's all good. But when bears start making fun of bulls, then everyone will get touchy and offended real quick.
Bulls seem to be really sensitive.

Come at me bro.
1364  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is NOT dead. on: February 14, 2014, 02:52:45 AM
Did some troll say Bitcoin was dead? Normally it's best to just ignore them.

You make Bitcoin sounds like a pyramid scheme later in your post. Did you know that? No wonder people spout that shit.

Most of the people in this forum who have used Bitcoin, have used it as an investment. Many of them - and some others I know personally - have lost money because of it.

Bitcoin isn't an investment in the regular sense. It isn't a pyramid, either. But there are those who will say all kinds of things about Bitcoin, because they have lost investmentwise, or because they think that Bitcoin is going to bring the money system down.

We need to look at all the things that people are saying so that we can figure out how to respond as we advertise and teach Bitcoin's use.

Smiley

There is no need to advertise Bitcoin. It's superior in many ways. The people who realize that can take advantage of it.

What does superior have to do with people knowing? I think you could walk into Walmart, or Target, or your home church, and ask people about Bitcoin, and if a few of them had heard of it, they only know what they heard in a brief news story.

Smiley

Those who want to find another solution will bother to spend the effort required to find it. Those that don't will be stuck in a rut.
1365  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Is pool mining really more profitable? on: February 14, 2014, 02:51:40 AM
I know little about pool mining.
But I think the pool's job is just to devide the proof-of-work into many small one.
So I guess It  only makes the profit comes more steady instead of more profitable.

The answer is not that simple. If you have enough hash rate to effectively mine solo, solo mining is more profitable.

If you do not, you join a pool in order to reduce variance. There are pools that do not charge a fee. Those pools are more profitable, if you can stand the variance (they are typically smaller so they are exposed to more visible variance).

I would mine at P2Pool if I were mining Bitcoins. No fee. All the advantages of solo mining with all the advantages of sharing the reward like traditional pools.
1366  Economy / Speculation / Re: MtGox the only reason for bitcoin crash? on: February 14, 2014, 02:47:54 AM
Apple bans blockchain app
Russia bans bitcoin
Major exchanges are broken and locked down due to protocol bug discovered in 2011 that was never patched
Silk Road 2 hacked; coins stolen

am i forgetting anything?

at this point, mtgox is only a small part in the crash
Yes. You forgot all the FUDsters crawling out from under their rocks that don't know what they are talking about.

Ohhh... you give them no credit at all! They know exactly what they are doing.
1367  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 14, 2014, 02:47:14 AM
Thanks for the tips of alternative chart sites, but those I have checked show the price at MtGOX by default, and I can't figure out how to change that.  Do I have to subscribe?

Well, first we would have to know which you have checked.
1368  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 14, 2014, 02:46:32 AM
200 usd spread nearly at the stamp gox canyon, the panic is intense Cheesy. This must be tense for those with low faith in the protocol. I just remain patient and let the devs and exchange address any issues they face.

Once Stamp and Gox resume withdrawals the price is going to go insane.

Yes. And Stamp has already started putting people's bitcoins back into their Stamp accounts. That's step #1. Step #2 is full btc withdrawals. Smiley

Ok thats good news but we´re still going down. Question is, will gox be ever able to fix it? If they go insolvent then hard times will come and this will not be the bottom.

No. Gox is shit. Everyone knows Gox is shit now. Gox will forever be shit. Shit doesn't matter.
1369  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 14, 2014, 02:45:39 AM
Quote
Gavin Andresen ‏@gavinandresen 18m

Today was about ignoring people and Deep Coding. Executive summary: protocol is fine. Reference wallet implementation is getting fixed

Well.. that was... expected. The fucking bug was merely an annoyance anyway.
1370  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 14, 2014, 02:44:04 AM
drug

Oh em gee. Bitcoins are only good for drugs.
1371  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is NOT dead. on: February 14, 2014, 02:40:02 AM
Did some troll say Bitcoin was dead? Normally it's best to just ignore them.

You make Bitcoin sounds like a pyramid scheme later in your post. Did you know that? No wonder people spout that shit.

Most of the people in this forum who have used Bitcoin, have used it as an investment. Many of them - and some others I know personally - have lost money because of it.

Bitcoin isn't an investment in the regular sense. It isn't a pyramid, either. But there are those who will say all kinds of things about Bitcoin, because they have lost investmentwise, or because they think that Bitcoin is going to bring the money system down.

We need to look at all the things that people are saying so that we can figure out how to respond as we advertise and teach Bitcoin's use.

Smiley

There is no need to advertise Bitcoin. It's superior in many ways. The people who realize that can take advantage of it.
1372  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Who has the voting right? miners or the pool on: February 14, 2014, 02:39:02 AM
Solo mine = the better option.

There is a pool designed to function like solo mining where you keep your voting rights, yet it has the variance reduction in payouts like a pool.

P2Pool.

P2P mining makes no difference.
P2P miners can mine without the blockchain files on their computer. How can their vote without the transaction records.

Umm no, you are misinformed. P2Pool miners need a full copy of the block chain.
1373  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 14, 2014, 02:37:41 AM
Is there a brain cell amongst any of the bears on this thread?  starting to have my doubts.. that you guys are actually even real people..probably bought and paid for...

Fonzie I have a question for you if you do not mind...   are you a decent good human being?



I am a really really nice human person, most people love me immediately. I have 2 university degrees(i know that proves nothing), but believe me i´m not a full retard.
I just love hatin and trollin.  Wink


OK man... well I take your word for it... but a word of advice... we are the sum total of our thoughts...

think about that in all honesty seriously... because I for one have had cause to wonder this question about you... what kind of man is Fonzie? because honestly trollin and shits and giggles aside... and I know we are all busting each others balls to a degree and I like to come on here for a laugh and bust some balls but also to acutally talk and discuss and maybe learn and  well you know... not just be a jerk all of the time... don't carry negative energy around all the time Fonzie it will kill you and drain the love and joy from your life...

I say here with 100% certainty that some of you are twats, maybe I am one of the twats, but unless you are actually an employee of a PR company working for Morgan then remember that on the other side of this are people, and at the end of the day,  imagine actually if for what I would conisder a very outside chance Bitcoin goes wrong... that actually there will be people that it has an effect on... thats the difference between a person that is here to actually discuss Bitcoin, they are here to , well discuss bitcoin and yeah have some shits and giggles along the way... but  really, as a decent human being, if there is a person on here and they have a position whatever it maybe  and it goes against them, you know it could actually be a real bad thing for them (it could a be a short position)  and basically if you are on here
gloating and prodding and basically laughing at someones misfortune, then I think you need to have a think about what kind of person you are... you seem to have a playful side.. but you also seem to have an imature side..   you know its all fun and games but you are the only person that has responsability for how you behave no one else... and shits and giggles aside, man trust me when I say that trollin and busting balls is all very good... but being a decent stand up guy is a better trait to have , and it will serve you and your reality and experience of life to basically have more... so if you are not a paid employee, then basically , troll away.. do  but know something.. everytime I see your posts they just make me wonder about you.. not Bitcoin.  Basically shits and giggles aside... I think we should all remember what the principles behind crypto are and if you do not understand them, then you have no place... none on this forum, because you are just here to cause annoyance and distress to others... way to be rememberd in life .. honestly.

the people that have been stuffing the average joe , all around the world for a very long time, are the ones this energy should be pointed towards... I do not know about you, but I used to work for a very elite banking firm, but I also come from a rough backgorund, and I know people I know families that got destroyed after 2008,  people that lost fucking everything, as in lost everything , then a suicide and then it was all really lost...   I know who this energy should be targeted towards I know what is happening in the world today, I see the largest ponzi mass transfer of wealth ever in history happening right now, across the globe, and not a Bitcoin in sight... seriously.. I have not ignored you until now... and fun is fun... but if you cannot see this... and you do not know what side you should be on, then frankly I am going to give up  because you offer nothing else but spite and gloating and shit shit shit.. then thats fine but if you are not part of the solution... then you are part of the probelm.. which is sad because that is a choice that you are making.. and for all I can see for what  shits and giggles you love ripple but hate Bitcoin... oh right well if you actually think that way, then why not support Bitcoin and suport Ripple , because if you think Bitcoin going up in flames is going to help Ripple then you are daft..  this is what I am trying to get at.. all this energy, all this time, and you point it towards something you want to see fail.. I cannot understand why a decent rational human would do such a thing... if I do not like classical music, guess what  I do not listen to it... but I not make a point of going onto "I love classical music forum" and try to shit on everyones parade, honestly, I cannot think why  or what would make a person do such a thing even if you felt that people on there are so full of it...   so take this how you will Fonzie.. its up to you.. I am being an open person to you, so take it as you want... but there is another way... you know one that involves communication and understanding and honesty and it is was way way more benificial to the entire planet, when humans go down that path..  I do not know you and I am not judging you, just saying.

An I wrote you that poem and everything bro... so troll away , I would not ever want you to change... but you know.. as a gift from me to you... find a path that is creative, and coperative and helps and gives to others.. that is actually where all of the wealth in the world lives.

My two ripples worth for you.

oh and

CHOOO CHOOOO MF'r!!!!1

Oh my goodness. You've just wasted far too much time on a troll.
1374  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 14, 2014, 02:36:54 AM

Fucking math! How does it work?
1375  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 14, 2014, 02:34:11 AM
200 usd spread nearly at the stamp gox canyon, the panic is intense Cheesy. This must be tense for those with low faith in the protocol. I just remain patient and let the devs and exchange address any issues they face.

Once Stamp and Gox resume withdrawals the price is going to go insane.

I think it is going to need a Bitcoin-Qt patch as well. Transactions based on unconfirmed change going invalid is not cool.
1376  Economy / Speculation / Re: MtGox the only reason for bitcoin crash? on: February 14, 2014, 02:29:43 AM
Mt Gox should switch to Litecoin instead of Bitcoin

MtGox should switch to Magic the Gathering: Online eXchange instead of crypto.
1377  Economy / Speculation / Re: Someone is trying to intentionally tank Bitcoin price on: February 14, 2014, 02:26:44 AM
This is not just the "nature of the Bitcoin market" as Holliday puts it.

Clearly you haven't been involved with Bitcoin for enough time. More often than not, someone is intentionally trying to tank the Bitcoin exchange rate. Therefor, it's simply the nature of the Bitcoin market.
1378  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Time frame for Mt GOX on: February 14, 2014, 02:25:17 AM
Does anyone have any idea how long it will be before Mt GOX fixes its "problem"? I don't have an account there luckily, but I want a general idea of when the prices are going to start rising again. I want to buy something and I'm trying to decide if I should just buy before it completely tanks or if they're going to fix the problem and it will rise again.

Gox itself is a problem. It's ran by incompetent fools. I'm sorry to say that but I can't ignore history any longer.

Please don't use Gox.
1379  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Worried ?? Last time I checked ! on: February 14, 2014, 02:24:20 AM
Counterfeit? There are no counterfeit bitcoins going around. There is poor internal bookkeeping going around.
1380  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is NOT dead. on: February 14, 2014, 02:22:52 AM
Did some troll say Bitcoin was dead? Normally it's best to just ignore them.

You make Bitcoin sounds like a pyramid scheme later in your post. Did you know that? No wonder people spout that shit.
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