What exactly am I "total new" to?
Why are you asking me what "some time ago" means when the OP is the one who wrote it?
I feel like I'm in the twilight zone with this thread.
As I said, sorry, I was looking at his profile and yeah, its like the twilight zone. When he is referring to making a decision "sometime ago" he means literally last week. He was not around for the years that MtGOX was the only place to reliably exchange bitcoin for cash for a majority of the world. Neil No worries. This is a very strange thread. LOL.
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Awesome! Nice work Armory team!
I like that you've allowed the user to block spending zero confirmation change (and protect themselves from the transaction mutating bot)! Thanks for that!
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He (like you) are total new to this all. What does some time ago mean? Last week? What exactly am I "total new" to? Why are you asking me what "some time ago" means when the OP is the one who wrote it? I feel like I'm in the twilight zone with this thread.
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Why don't you just call it MtGox? Why don't you just read the thread? I did, was no answer on that question and OP seems to be continuing it, so I tried again. He clearly explained it in post #7 of this thread. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=477724.msg5269926#msg5269926I decided in a post some time ago (I don't expect anyone to have read it) that I would deny "MtGox's" attempted rebranding. The rebranding was intended to distance themselves from their history as a trading card exchange. That history, to my mind, actually diminishes their credibility. One can presume that their core exchange technology was not replaced wholesale during the switch to Bitcoin, so the rigour with which you might expect Bitcoin software to be written may not be there (you don't need bank-level security for a game card exchange). This is evidenced in the sloppy transaction handling, and more importantly in their processes for fixing sloppy software. The patchwork attempt at repair over months, rather than a detailed effort to understand and analyse the problems, is a major factor in their downfall. Bitcoin is by and large a consensus ecosystem. Their name is whatever we call them by, not whatever they say it is. Maybe more people will get on board with going back to their naming roots if I stick to it pedantically. Disclosure: I have not been harmed in any way by Magic: the Gathering's failings... at least not directly. No funds under deposit, no axe to grind except the pain of watching the fallout on the rest of the Bitcoin world.
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Why don't you just call it MtGox? Why don't you just read the thread?
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Another note: people here seem to advocate buying Magic: the Gathering BTC for the eventual re-opening of withdrawals. However, with the exchange locked down the total amount of BTC and $$$ are fixed. I'll stop you there.... People are still sending money into MtGox to buy the cheap coins. Various processors are working and there's always wire transfer. Time will tell if this was a wise move by those who did it. Well, shit... I had no idea Magic: the Gathering would be so irresponsible as to allow dollar inflows. Are they allowing dollar withdrawals as well? If so, then I've completely misunderstood the situation. Bitcoin in? Check Bitcoin out? ...404 service not found Fiat in? Check Fiat out? ...same as the past half of a year (which is how long a fiat withdraw might take, if you ever get your money at all)
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Another note: people here seem to advocate buying Magic: the Gathering BTC for the eventual re-opening of withdrawals.
They do? Most people who suggest this get flooded with "bad idea" posts. I compare it to playing "russian roulette". Of course, if you like to gamble... it could pay off big (if MtG:OX is just terribly incompetent after all, and not actually malicious).
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For mtgox insiders to go to prison, they would have had to break a regulation. Why should a business thatdeals in an unregulated currency be regulated? Gox deals with fiat as well. We all know that anyone dealing with fiat is highly regulated. It's another story whether that is a good thing or a bad thing. The price dropped because of supply and demand changing as a result of the news that broke. People panic, it happens.
Nothing about the exchange rate at Gox is a normal function of supply and demand. It's due to the fact that Gox is a dysfunctional exchange which may never be fully functional again. The other exchanges are reflecting an exchange rate based on supply and demand (including the "news" that Gox is dysfunctional). There is also a massive divergence between the exchange rate at Gox and the exchange rate at the other exchanges.
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Ignorance.
No, it's because it took mining out of the reach of the small miner because of the initial investment. I have been mining with ASICS since the first came online and were available. The cost was not prohibitive for me, but for a lot of people it still is. I can understand the the bad feelings. A top of the line GPU mining rig will cost an amount similar to an ASIC device. The ASIC is going to be way more efficient at mining. CPU miners bitched about GPU miners the same way GPU miners bitched about ASIC miners. Sorry, it's ignorance.
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I'm just glad that China, Russia, and Mt. Gox were nice enough to let us party when it's nice and warm outside.
That's admirable of you to look on the bright side of things!
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becase this time the "karp of gox street" needs to buy some cheap coins to arbitrage while everyone else has to sit around and watch him get fatter.
This is the main theory still? Is there actual proof that mtgox lost coins to transaction malleability? All we have is conjecture. Gox fails at informing it's customers about what is actually happening as badly as they fail on the technical side of things.
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Yeah, bitcoins for $100 at Gox and $550 everywhere else is completely normal. Nothing to see here.
I am not saying it is normal. Of course BTC at Stamp and BTC-e and elewhere are extremely overpriced. Mmm Hmm...
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This thread is stupid. As if satoshi could or should prevent people from forming foundations and then decide who can and can not join those foundations.
Bitcoin is fine, Gox and it's users are temporarily putting a bad taste in everyone's mouth. In time this will pass and Bitcoin will be better off because of it (if people learn to make better choices when it comes to picking an exchange and how they use it).
The revered George Carlin once said; "The planet is fine. The people are fucked." George was a smart guy.
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Why weren't we seeing this demand for trading engine halt when you only couldn't withdraw fiat (the entire second half of last year)?
You don't care when the exchange rate is artificially inflated, only when it is artificially deflated?
there was nothing artificial when it was inflated. it should be halted if in fact gox is insolvent. It was artificially inlfated (at Gox) because you couldn't withdraw fiat, so to get fiat money out you had to purchase bitcoins and withdraw them only to deposit and sell on another exchange.
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And you should be placed in a mental health clinic. What is happening right now is a decline after a very technical bubble. This fall should have been expected. Do not blame others for your mistake of buying at the top of the bubble.
Congrats to Mark Karpeles for not halting the trading engine. Trading engine working = cheap bitcoins for smart investors.
Yeah, bitcoins for $100 at Gox and $550 everywhere else is completely normal. Nothing to see here.
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No need to speculate. Just sit back and watch it first hand.
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Why weren't we seeing this demand for trading engine halt when you only couldn't withdraw fiat (the entire second half of last year)?
You don't care when the exchange rate is artificially inflated, only when it is artificially deflated?
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certainly mtgox is taking arbitrages so they pay the bills but someone must have all this fucking money
I mean, I know Gox is pretty fucking incompetent, but it boggles the mind how they could be in debt after all the fees they've been scalping from their victims customers the past few days.
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