I used to do the dodgy streams before but they were too unreliable and with lag and stuff or just cutting out. You end up missing out on goals. I would never pay for Sky unless they showed all games so for now I'll just stick with dazn which is great. I'm still hoping for some sort of UK-based service. Dazn are actually going to launch in the UK soon but I think it will mainly be for boxing. I'm sure they'll try bid on getting some of the PL rights when they're next available but not sure they'd have the money to outbid Sky. They'll probably do what Amazon did and just bid for a smaller package or maybe get BT's games if they drop out (which is speculated they will) or they just outbid them.

This article made me laugh:

https://talksport.com/football/695238/newcastle-takeover-outrageous-xi-new-owners-chelsea-man-city-transfer/


Little reason? Apart from Financial Fair Play rules. You know it's slow for news when people are making ridiculous fantasy teams up:



Newcastle should just start charging 10k for a game ticket and get their owners to buy the tickets every week. They'll soon rack up enough money 'legitimately' to then start spending and become the new City  .

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/11462882/mcgregor-diaz-trilogy-fight-island/

I would love to see the trilogy fight on the island. I would be surprised if they had a fight that huge on it though. If they manage to get Conor involved I think it could be the biggest UFC draw ever. The mix of Conor fighting, the cornovirus happening with nothing else to do and it being on an island would all be huge publicity wise.

A list of the top earners from the UFC was announced recently:



https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/mma/11453867/ufc-highest-earners-conor-mcgregor-ronda-rousey-khabib-nurmagomedov/

McGregor's highest paydays:



Quite a huge jump from the first Diaz fight to the second, especially since he lost. I wonder how much Diaz earned for that?



They should have been training for the previous fights that were cancelled. The fighters involved will know that Dana is trying to get them fights and they will have been told this, but if they aren't ready for them then it's their own fault. Most fighters should be ready to go within a couple of weeks but they've probably actually had at least a month or two's notice. The only caveat is that there's nothing confirmed but as they say, plan for the worse hope for the best.

But if that's the case then why wouldn't or couldn't the fight be a draw? If it's a boring one then it easily could be, unless Wilder just goes on the defensive but that isn't going to win him the fight unless he can finally KO Fury at some point this time. If Wilder wants his belts back then he's going to have to go all out because he's unlikely to win on points... or the fight could end in another draw.


He did seem like he went in to the fight like it was no big deal but then quickly realised it was. I'd be surprised if he makes the same mistakes again. He knows he can't do that. Hopefully Fury doesn't go into this fight thinking he it will be a breeze again either. They've both got a long time to prepare for it though but hopefully neither of them will slack off.

People said that about the first fight. Like Fury did in the second fight Wilder needs to learn from his mistakes and that's why I think this one will be a lot closer as Wilder will be far more cautious. He went into the fight far too lazily. I don't know whether he thought he was going to get an easy knockout or what be he got a shock. I can't see him doing that again especially as this will be his final shot at getting those belts back. If Fury wins then he'll just go on to fight Joshua, assuming he doesn't lose his next fight and the belts.


I don't know about bitcoin sportsbooks but 26+ odds for the draw on regular ones probably isn't unusual. I think it was around that for the last fight. You'll be able to get 20/1 at least.

As would I and I already get them all through Dazn but you need to jump through a few hoops to get it, but I would happily pay more for a UK-based service. They'll probably do their own subscription service eventually (and they do in some countries already) but they probably don't want to take the risk just yet whilst also severing ties with Sky and other big broadcasters. Once they go from TV to streaming there's probably no going back. What they should do is launch the service alongside TV broadcasters and give them a discount on the TV rights and maybe phase TV out. They still won't be able to show the 3'o clock games in the UK though unless they change the law. It's a silly and outdated one though.

Probably depends how old you are as well. Blackburn, Newcastle and even teams like Leeds were all top teams either winning or coming runners up and look where they all are now. Even Aston Villa and Norwich came second and third in the inaugural Premier League season and I remember that one and especially the season before where Leeds won the very last First Division before it became the PL beating Manchester United to it.

Apparently the games might be free to air once they return:


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52387971

I really hope this shakes up the system and they either start live streaming more games or start showing the 3'o clock matches. It's about time football in the UK got with the times as all the games are live streamed in many other countries. If they don't get shown on TV within their contractually obligated time frame they'll have to issue a billion+ in £s so they're going to need to recoup that money from somewhere. I wonder what sort of impact that would have on the league's finances and if they could even afford to do it. I'd be surprised if they have a spare billion pounds just sat in a bank account they can dish out. They might have to do some sort of sweetheart deal with the various TV companies where they give them huge future discounts on the football rights packages.

I'm not that social anyway so going outside isn't that much of a big deal, but I must admit it does start to feel a bit claustrophobic when you're essentially forced to stay inside. The only difference between a house and a prison is you can choose to walk out the door anytime at home but even that has been limited now. I think things will start to get bad though if the lock down happens for most of the year or even years. The toll it will take on people's mental health may cause more issues than the virus especially in the long-run. The economy collapsing and business and jobs disappearing is likely to cause a huge recession which will only make people's mental state worse. Instead of doing nothing during these times there's lots of stuff you can be doing. Read. Watch films, maybe even write something yourself. Now's a great time to start exercising as well if you don't already. Buy a couple of dumbbells or a skipping rope or even just do body weight exercises.


Newcastle were a far bigger team than City and they're possibly in a similar situation now, only Newcastle have the FFP rules to deal with so I doubt they're going to achieve the success City did. Man City weren't really ever a top club before the money. They've been a very average one for most of their existence. They were 15th back in 05/06 and narrowly avoided relegation in 03/04. Go back to 08/09 and 07/08 and they finished 10th and 9th and it was only then when they got the oil money they started to slowly creep up the table in the following seasons before finally winning it in 11/12. City will likely be the last team to achieve something with money just being thrown at them and that's the only reason players did go to them because they were offering record wages and transfer fees.

Florida has always seemed pretty crazy. Must be something in the water there. Or the heat.


If ESPN/Disney don't want to broadcast it then the UFC should just do it themselves on their own streaming platform which they have. I think ESPN/Disney are contracted for the main 'numbered' fights UFC 248/249 and so on and the 'Fight Nights' but I don't think there's anything stopping the UFC from doing their own 'fight island' matches as long as they don't name/brand them under the numbered system or 'fight night' series. If they do do them on an Island though maybe Disney would be ok with this as the health concerns would probably not be there.


The fighters who are possibilities for these cards will have likely been told about it so they should be training and keeping themselves fit. McGregor hasn't got any fights lined up but he was still training as if one was coming up. He stated he was good to go and would have stepped in if one of the fighters pulled out of the Tony/Khabib fight.


I think a fight on an island or beach would be like a real life movie. I really think it could be something special if they manage to pull it off correctly... or it could be a disaster.

Expectation:



Reality:

UFC 249 is apparently back on for 9th of May:


https://metro.co.uk/2020/04/22/ufc-fight-tony-ferguson-justin-gaethje-mma-florida-12591979/

I really doubt this will happen, though apparently Florida more relaxed coronavirus lockdown and they allowed the WWE to compete their last month.

I think it would be better to forget about fights in the US for the time being and concentrate on the mysterious 'Fight Island' which I'm much more interested in seeing... well just as long as there's a decent fight on the card and not a bunch of nobodies.

Ha. Bit late for that now  . I doubt many would have backed the draw from the start though. Most seem to be overwhelming in favour of Fury winning again. If I had to bet I'd go with Fury but I think it will be closer and Wilder still has that knock out punch that Fury needs to avoid. Anything could happen and that's why I'm looking forward to this fight.


Odd are always great on draws in boxing as they're fairly rare. I sometimes put them on fights where I think they might be close just because you can get great value. It's just a shame I didn't put it on for the first fight  . I'll probably go for the draw on the next fight as the odds will probably be greater than they were for the last fight due to Fury's domination of Wilder.

There's always loopholes and they're kept open for a reason. Take tax evasion by billionaires and their companies. Businesses like Apple and Google pay little tax in most countries they operate in, or no where the amount they should do as they exploit loopholes in various ways. Governments could close the loopholes if they wanted but they don't probably because they get their parties financed by the people who want them kept open. There's a lot of people in countries like Russia and Arabia who have businesses that are essentially just printing money. They have so much money spending hundreds of millions is like a just doing a 'big shop' for them so buying football clubs is nothing to a billionaire and they might as well diversify their money as much as possible in legitimate businesses and football is going nowhere even with the lockdown. We also probably don't know the true wealth of a lot of these people. On paper they might be worth x amount of billions but behind the scenes they could be worth much more. Take Putin for example. He claims to have little money officially but there's rumours he might in fact be one of if not the richest man on the planet: https://www.businessinsider.com/how-putin-spends-his-mysterious-fortune-2017-6?r=US&IR=T

He probably isn't and I'm sure it'll be of the oil barons in the Arab world but I expect many more clubs to be bought in the future  by these people and they're just probably waiting for their chance to swoop them up. Most people don't want to let go of the clubs they own but Newcastle seems to have been a liability and nothing but a stress for Mike Ashley and the fans also hate him. Can't see why they'll like the new owners much more either, especially if they don't start spending cash, but as people have said it's not as easy as it used to be so I'm sure they'll get frustrated pretty quickly if nothing changes.

Not only that but the next two events are cancelled:


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/mma/article-8239871/UFC-forced-cancel-two-upcoming-events-reschedule-shows-coronavirus-crisis.html

If these UFC fights ever get done during the pandemic they'll probably just end up being be shit, cobbled together fights from nobodies who are desperate just to get some attention and boost their popularity. If the card doesn't have at least one big fight on it I think it will kill a lot of the buzz. Does anyone really want to see some d-list UFC fighters on Fight Island? Doubt it. I think they need at least one of the  McGregor/Khabib level fighters, hopefully both together or at least one of them fighting someone substantial. One of the big fighters on the Fight Island would be epic.

I know draws are fairly rare in boxing but I thought the first fight was pretty evenly matched overall, especially when you take into account the Fury knockdowns. The second was obviously a one-man fight with Fury dominating, but I'm sure Wilder will learn from his mistakes the next time just like Fury did. That's why I think this fight will be closer again like the first. I could see it being a boring fight if Wilder is on the defensive though and doesn't go all in.


I would be very surprised if he didn't change anything. He seemed to go into the last fight expecting it to be a breeze to knock him out so he's got to change his plan next time around. If he doesn't then I would expect another easy Fury win, but I'm still expecting this fight to be pretty close as I don't think Wilder will go into this as lazily as the last. Those belts are on the line and there's a lot of money going to be lost in future fights for whoever loses. Fury is still unbeaten so he's where the money is right now and who everybody wants to fight.

What happened to the draw?


Are people forgetting about the first fight where Wilder nearly KO-d Fury? Fury was lucky to get up from that and 99% of other fighters wouldn't have. I think that's what makes this fight all the more exciting for me. First was a draw and the second Fury completely dominated Wilder and was the first fighter to do so. Had that gone another round then Fury likely would have been the first to beat him by knockout as well, so who know's what will happen in the next match but I don't think it going to be another easy win for Fury, but that's what makes boxing so great because nobody knows what's going to happen and one punch is all it takes to change or even finish a fight.   

If money is going to make you happy then why not chose the first one? But is money going actually to make you happy? Most people seemingly do jobs they don't really like or care for, but I doubt they're truly happy with that and would much rather be doing something else. Personally I'd much rather do something I love for less than something I didn't for more, but that's just me. If you can turn your passions or hobbies into a career then that's probably one of the greatest achievements in life, even if you're not making as much as you'd like, but that's the compromise. I never really wanted to to work for anyone else and being self-employed is perfect for me. I don't earn that much in the grand scheme of things and have had offers to do jobs that would tie me down for 9-5 for much more money, but I'd rather not do that. Currently I do what I want and if I don't want to work one day I don't have to. I don't need to ask a boss or get permission, I just do it. If I wake up one day and want to go on holiday I can and still do my work from there and that's one thing you can't if you're stuck in an office all day or have commitments elsewhere. You really can't put a price on freedom.

I believe theymos has commented on it in the past but I'm not going to search the dozens of threads for it  . It was probably along the same lines of what I said though, if I remember correctly (and forgive me if I don't).


Let's be honest here, most people are interested in the fiat value whether we like it or not. Of course maybe one day the dollar will be pegged to the bitcoin and we'll be asking how much a dollar is in bitcoin, but I doubt it  .

It's probably easier for foreigners to buy clubs than it is for a UK resident because it will be much harder to check where all the money came from. Some countries are worse than others for either money laundering or accounting for where all the money came from. If you're a Russian or Saudi you probably just say oil and they check your books and that's good enough . The oil rich Arab nations are trying to branch out though because they know their wealth isn't going to last forever when the oil runs out so that's probably why they're buying football clubs. That's why places like Dubai are spending shit loads to try change their perception in the West and boost their tourism now so it becomes a popular spot as that's where their money will come from in the future.

Seriously, do a search. This has been asked/requested numerous times before.  Would it hurt to have one? Of course not, but it's not essential and just keep preev or any other website of choice bookmarked.


Do you only trade bitcoin for bitcoin? Is that how this entire economy works? That's like saying one share in Apple is worth 1 share or 1 dollar is worth 1 dollar. What's the exchange rate like compared to pounds or euros?

Do you believe everything you read online? It might be   to you because you might know him better than others but it's also to me as well because the first I heard of this was a couple of weeks when he started asking for money. Usually when people come here begging with a sob story people rightly jump on them and question their authenticity.


Such as, you know, actual proof. Death certificates and so on. They're usually public record. I don't know about you but somebody just saying online that someone is dead isn't going to be enough for me to say case closed. Talking to a family member wouldn't really mean anything either because like you said why would you trust them or be able to verify who they are.


No, I'm saying faking his own death isn't something I believe he did or is doing, but I'm also saying just because someone says they're dying or are dead doesn't make it so. This is all we seemingly had for paripan and then his coins go walk about when they're worth a shitload. I think it's entirely possible he isn't actually dead and many others are sceptical even though he told people he was ill so bruno's case isn't exactly ludicrous to question either.


He was in the mood to ask for people's money by writing out a lengthy thread so taking some new pictures probably isn't hard. Those pictures could have easily been sent to someone else back in December as proof for something and then that person uses them at a later date to try get some money. There's a reason why timestamps are important. Maybe he used them then to solicit donations or to try sell his account to someone? I don't know. Just to clarify, I think it's far more likely that Bruno is actually deceased, but all I'm saying is nothing that has been posted here is 100% proof to me and we certainly don't know where that money is going at least. Gleb's accounts have been in the possession of others numerous times so it's not ridiculous for someone to question this when he uses month old pictures asking for money.


Yeah, apparently when Gleb sold/tried to sell his accounts that's ok with most people here. Funny how they don't feel that way with everybody else. Somebody could have done real damage with his accounts given their prominence and rank so that's why I'm saying I could never work him out. Likes to bust scams but then also is willing to sell his account to the highest bidder that could easily facilitate them. Not cool.


If he's sold his accounts multiple times before and knows he's dying then why wouldn't he sell them or give them way? Especially when he's in need of some cash. I still don't think that's ok but I can see why someone would do that. That's all I'm saying.


Not logging into his account for a while isn't going to mean anything. What happens if someone does log into those accounts in the future? Proof he's alive? As for the obituaries, I've only seen a couple but they're on websites that anyone can create one with zero proof.


All I'm saying is I require more proof than he said she said. You could be in on any scheme or shenanigans he might have been trying for all I know. Again, it's obvious that it's more likely he is gone, but at the same time anyone looking at this objectively from the things that have been publicly posted should be able to say that it's not 100% confirmed.


Shouldn't you be thinking about this logically rather than what people vote? I'm sure people will vote yes with the best of intentions hoping the money goes to helping him or his family out in some way but they probably don't know the whole facts. If the money is going to be wasted by doing so it seems kind of pointless. If you believe nutildah and he says he knows the situation better than anybody and is advising people not to send money to the address then surely it's not a great idea to do so.


I guess I'm not as asshole after all then either:

Yeah, it does seem like at least 2-3 months.


I'd rather have nothing than fake noise. To be honest, I think not having crowds might add a little extra to the games. At least will make them memorable for that and a sign of the times. You can often here everything the players say which gives the game an extra dimension.


I'd like to see the odds on that. I could see them losing a game or two but I think they'll be fine.


Really? Not sure if it's a joke or not but would be kind of funny to see. Maybe clubs could make some extra money by covering the seats in huge banners that are sponsored. Might help cover for some of the lost ticket revenues.


Football clubs are rarely big money spinners for people, unless you can get one of the big cups that actually make a shit load of money Man United etc. For most owners it's just another thing to put on their business CV and stroke their own egos. Would be pretty cool to actually own a football club though. Would be a great chat up line as well. Hey girl, you heard of Chelsea football club? Well, I own them