Elon didn't 'make' it decline. The idiots who hang on his every word and dump on the slightest suggestion of something that could be construed as vaguely negative. And 1.5 billion isn't that much when he's worth over 1.5 billion. I'm sure people will be singing his praises if he manages to sort this eco-mining council thing out and the price pumps because of it again. It already went up 5% after the news.


He owns at least a quarter of a bitcoin since 2018:

https://www.investopedia.com/news/tesla-billionaire-elon-musk-reveals-how-much-bitcoin-he-owns/

I would be surprised if he doesn't own more or hasn't added to his own personal stash since then. He's mentioned that he hasn't sold any of his personal holdings yet so I'm assuming he has more than a mere quarter.

So has the table updated properly yet? I'm guessing it has but it said that it will be finalised today and states the last update was 23 May 19:30 but I'm not sure if that included the current round as they can be slow to update the table and tomahwak still had his 15 point lead from before the round started. Maybe it was just a coincidence though.

If the top 10 winners want to PM me their address once the board has been fully confirmed I'll get the payments out sometime this week. If your username is different here than on superbru PM me from both accounts.

I'll probably start the new PL pool sign up sometime this week as well though won't be taking in payments until nearer the start.

Ten minutes to go. 14 players haven't done their picks but looks like half of them have given up already.


Toma is only 15 points in front. That's only really the difference of one great round really. As long as he has at least an average round he'll hold onto the number one spot but the top ten could be shaken up for those that get or lose a lot of points. With all the games being played at once there can be lots of leap-frogging.

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I was kinda hoping you or someone would try reach out to him and/or he would reappear to explain himself. It would have been nice he if just came clean about it all but he strikes me as the person who wouldn't be honest and would just troll further. I an surprised he hasn't reached out to you (or someone else claiming to be him) to try fish out some money from you for the last coin but maybe he's completely unaware of all this. Maybe he's best left be but I hope the law catches up with him at some point. If I can find the info out then law enforcement should be able to as well but maybe they're just not looking for him. I wonder if anyone from the Bonsai community took legal action against him.


It's just an investigation into what is almost certainly his real identity. He's no Craig Wright satoshi that's for sure.


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I'm sure people can wait another year or so and another year isn't going to age either of them to the point of retirement. Neither are past their prime and are arguably still in it. Assuming the Wilder trilogy goes ahead they can still get the first AJ fight in before the end of the year and it's looking like December is a strong candidate for it. Then the rematch can be done in the new year. As for Wilder stepping aside if he would for a couple of million I'm sure they would offer him that but according to Fury he wants 20 million which is ludicrous so it looks like the fight will have to happen. He was originally contracted for it anyway so it seems only fair given covid. It's still a huge fight and there's not going to be many more options for Fury and AJ once those fights are done and maybe one or both will retire after them.



Well I don't think he got the chance to go out on his shield due the corner throwing in the towel. He probably would have lost either due to KO or points but you never know in boxing. Also, I'm not sure what qualifies someone to be the best and that's largely subjective but Wilder was unbeaten before Fury and held the WBC heavyweight title since 2015. He did nearly KO Fury as well and it was a miracle he got up. The excuses he gave were very petty and it shows what a sore loser he is but it's not uncommon for fighters to pull out every excuse in the book. Maybe Fury will have them if he every loses. The third fight at least gives both fighters the option to put it to rest though. If Fury is confident that beating him again won't be an issue then it should be only a minor inconvenience for him and he's still going to get the biggest payday of his life until the AJ fight happens.


Fury has said it's 20 million:



https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/57165286

Not necessarily. They could just arrange for the fight to happen after the AJ/Fury fight or Wilder could be paid off to delay the rematch, or maybe they could do a deal with AJ that Wilder will fight the winner of the bout if it's an issue of Wilder not being able to challenge for the belts so he will still get a shot at that. I don't know whether the terms of the arbitration deal mean it has to be a title fight with the belts on the line which could obviously be an issue if Fury loses them but the fight does have to take place before September 15th so there's not much time to fit in both fights by the end of the year. It wouldn't be big deal anyway if they delayed the fight anyway in my opinion. AJ could just fight Oleksandr Usyk in the meantime since he's probably going to have to fight him as he's the mandatory and that could end up delaying the Fury/AJ fight at some point as well so it's best to get it out of the way so it doesn't cause any problems. I actually want to see Fury and Wilder fight again as I think Wilder deserves the third match. First was a draw and the second fight the towel was thrown in without his involvement even though he was likely losing or would have lost the fight but a third fight will settle any claim for either party. Once that's out the way Fury can concentrate on the AJ fight (assuming he doesn't lose  ).

I wouldn't pay too much attention to edited clips Logan Paul puts out. He's not going to put out a video of him getting knocked out or struggling to stay upright as he runs out of juice, so he's just trying to hype up the fight and give the critics something to discuss. I'd just take it as propaganda from him but I don't think the fight is going to be the walkover people think it's going to be for Mayweather. I expect him to win but wouldn't surprise me if it goes the distance or Logan manages to make it to the later rounds but Mayweather will outbox him. The weight/size difference and age are all in Logan's favour though so Mayweather just needs to do what he does best and dodge the big shots and hope he gets tired.

Be careful what you wish for. I doubt you'd be happy if he did dump all his coins. Something tells me people don't mind when he publicly announces he's bought bitcoin and he's a hero when he does but when he sells he's the bad guy. Calling for him to dump his coins is almost as childish and puerile as he's behaving and seems like people are throwing their toys out of the pram because the value of bitcoin isn't going the way they want it to. I think the bigger issue is how fickle people are and hang on his every word. If all it takes is one ambiguous word from him to tank the price by 5%+ then it's not his fault people are sheeple and act positively or negatively on his whim. I would rather have people like Elon on our side than against us and if people piss him off with their crying and hassling him then he can do much more harm if he wanted to and that's where the real danger lies. Personally I'd rather him just change his mind and start accepting bitcoin again at some point but he's not going to do that if people are attacking him, but something tells me he was getting heat or hassle on the environmental concerns front and since Tesla is trying to sell it's cars as eco friendly it doesn't really go well for their brand.


I doubt there's a conspiracy here. His behaviour does seem pretty autistic to me. I think he thinks he's just being funny and acting like he's "down with the kids" when he talks/memes about dogecoin etc but it all comes across as pretty cringe to me, but if people want to throw their money at dogecoin just because Elon talks about it then that's their prerogative and if they get burned then they only have themselves to blame.

Bitcoin is mentioned very briefly in the film Save Yourselves at 28:12 in the shower scene: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7873348/

They're discussing money worries and the male character is just about to boast about his money in bitcoin before the female character cuts him off and proclaims "bitcoin doesn't count". I found it kinda funny to be honest.

Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIsIjcNdsXc

I'd be surprised if Chelsea beat City in the CL final. I know they won their last two games against them but I think City will be taking this a lot more seriously. Either way I couldn't be less excited about that match. I would have been had City won the FA Cup but a domestic CL final is never great.


It gets trickier when there's nothing to play for for most teams and a lot of them will start fielding weaker teams to give players a game. City have already won the PL and Fulham West Brom and Sheffield are all relegated so they won't really care what results will happen. The teams from 3rd to 9th are still contending for the Euro spots so they're the only teams that will probably be fighting for points. As for the pool table it's still quite close at the top from second down to tenth+ and the people outside of that are all fighting for a spot and a bad vs good week can shift the table a lot. tomahawk9 would probably have to have two very bad rounds for someone to catch him but that buffer he has will come in useful even if he does.

Well that would be a good way to lose my bankroll pretty quickly haha. If I win big on another one I might step them up a bit on games where I think there might be a goal frenzy. Sometimes I put my free £5 bet on them but I haven't won with any more than a quid on them I think. They're great odds but they're also hard to come in. It's often the corners that screw you but both teams scoring in each half is also a big ask. You'd think a team would have at least 2 corners a half but many times they don't and it nearly didn't happen with City in the second yesterday. I usually put them on with the both teams to score and one to win with the 4 total corners and 2 cards each as well just to cover myself a bit and that one came in as well as shown above so you can double up on winning bets.

And yeah, Leeds have been impressive though inconsistent. I thought that they'd be fighting to survive this season but they've done very well. If they can keep their squad together they could easily be fighting for Euro spots within a season or two. They're going to have a hard time keeping Raphinha though and Kalvin Philips is destined for bigger things and I think it's only a matter of time before he moves on. I think the only thing keeping him there is he's a Leeds lad. I could see him at a squad like Man City within a few years. Meslier is great as well. I think he could be France's number one eventually. I'd be surprised if he doesn't go as well. They need a new striker and another strong defender. Bamford is so inconsistent. Sometimes he's great and other times he barely does anything or gets a look in. He's impressed me overall but they need someone stronger to play alongside him.

Some tough games to pick today and most look like draws or should be pretty close.


I didn't watch it but wish I did now. I cashed out this bet for £281 with 10 minutes to go but I only needed one more City corner to get me £450 which they actually got in the second minute of injury time. Didn't want to take the risk though as I was £80 down this season and I would have been very antsy and probably panicked and cashed it out for very little at 90 mins:



They're worth putting on if you think there's going to be a lot of goals. Won a handful of them now. They're not normally that high odds though. Usually 100-250/1 etc.


Yeah, I will do, but the CL and International comps never seem to do as well as the others in terms of sign-ups. The lower prize pool is probably a turn off as well.

Well, it's pretty self explanatory really. A thanks button is just that - a way to show appreciation. Not much different than merit really but that is in very limited supply and newbies have little to none of it. It's obviously not essential but would help in situations like the OP and implementation of it should be easy given it'd be like the merit system. 'Overusing' the likes shouldn't matter either because what are the consequences of doing that?

It's practically impossible to to find someone who would be politically neutral or impartial. Everyone has their biases and people will put you into a box even if you don't have or want one. Putting a name on that board is probably just going to invite a lot of vitriol directed to that person even if moderation has nothing to do with them so I think it's probably best not to have a dedicated mod in there and any Globals can handle anything serious if needed.

If Mayweather has let a couple of kids get into his head from some childishness then he can't be that great of a fighter. If you let this sort of stuff bother you then it's just welcoming more of it from them and others. Trashtalking works both ways though: to try sell the fight and get an advantage psychologically. If you can truly annoy someone or make them angry before they've stepped foot in the ring it can lead to recklessness and fighters losing their cool and that's an easy way for an upset to happen. If the Paul's have geniuly annoyed or hurt him then this is only an advantage for them.

It probably was going in to be honest but you can never be sure and could have easily hit the post. Should have been given as an own goal though as it completely changed the direction of the ball.


It was a bad round for most as there were a lot of upsets. Didn't think Liverpool would beat United especially given their recent form. Newcastle v City tonight could be tricky as well. Both have nothing to play for now and City could put out a b team to give some players a game and get their PL medal if they've not played the minimum amount of matches.

An exhibition match doesn't mean its a scripted wrestling match. Both of these fighters are going to want to win. Mayweather has his perfect unbeaten record to preserve and LP will want to win for obvious reasons. Paul is the underdog so has nothing to lose but Mayweather has a lot of pride and a huge ego so a loss would be a huge embarrassment to him not to mention tarnishing his legacy. They both seem to have developed a dislike of each other as well so I don't think either of them are going to take it easy and go into this like it's a sparring session.

But that's why a like button would be helpful. It's common courtesy to thank someone for help and a like button would at least curb people just littering threads with pleasantries. Sometimes a thanks is all some people require but it's a bit of a stretch for people to go suggesting people merit a post because they don't have any. A simple like button would do the job there.


Well it didn't have support for merit either but theymos implemented it  .

Went with a home win but probably would've backed a draw if I'd have seen the B-team United put out. Not sure why Ollie decided to do that as a win would have at least kept them in the title race. I could've understood if the Europa final was this week but it's not until the end of the season so they should keep playing for the wins until that's out of reach. City have been playing inconsistent and have the CL final to concentrate on so a couple more slip ups wouldn't have surprised me.

It's still possible but it'll be depending on Chelsea, Leicester or West Ham losing a lot of games. Europa is their best bet now but even that will be put of reach if West Ham win all their remaining games. West Ham have quite an easy run now though as well so even that will be difficult.

Lolwut Newcastle are beating Leicester away 4-0 and there's still 20 minutes to go. Not watching it so no idea what's going on but I guess Newcastle are safe from relegation now. Leicester can't be throwing away points if they want to hold on to that Champions League spot. Only two people backed the away win.


The game has been rescheduled for next week. I wonder if the fans will protest again. Something tells me Man U will have beefed up their security this time. Pretty embarrassing that they not only managed to walk into the ground and onto the pitch but some of them even got into the supposedly 'covid secure' dressing rooms.