I think Israel Adesanya (got 600+ for his last fight) and Kamaru Usman (put a million in his pocket for last fight) are "second biggest draw right now". I just watch https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UFC_records#Finances and make conclusion that Ngannou is not the biggest star in UFC, that allows him to dictate his rules. The top spots there are all taken by Connor. Take McGregor out of those and where else does everyone stack? I'm sure Ngannou is in the top ten, but just because he's not bringing in what Connor is doesn't mean he doesn't deserve more money. Regardless of where he is in the PPV rankings he's still a big draw and UFC's superstar heavyweight right now. I think his stock will only rise he if he keep fighting specially if he can get another of those vicious KOs. If he's landing more acting gigs that's even more eyeballs on him and the sport. Maybe you are right, and the only thing he isnt happy in his contract is the clause that does not allow him to fight outside UFC. If we return to McGregor, he gave up two belts, did not sign new contract with UFC and had a fight against McGregor. Why dont Francis Ngannou dont want to do the same? Ngannou probably will walk away if he doesn't get what he wants. And assuming you're talking about the Mayweather/McGregor fight he did that whilst still under contract with the UFC and it was a cross promo event with the UFC and Dana taking a cut of Connor's purse (see the UFC logo at the bottom):  I think Dana should extend the same courtesy that he did to Connor and let him box. If he doesn't then he'll probably just lose Francis all together so it's lose/lose for Dana/UFC in my opinion. |
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Yeah, they'll definitely be spinning it that way to get as much PPV's as possible. I mean I'm interested, we saw with Wilder that despite his lack of technical ability compared to Fury, he still caught him three times was it? The last fight they had, was probably the first time I've seen Fury actually hurt, he normally recovers quite well, but his legs did look a bit jelly like the last time, and I think Wilder noticed that too with the way he stepped up the pressure in that round. I was legitimately worried during that round, whereas the fights previously I wasn't too worried, despite that incredible knockdown where suddenly seemed to pop up.
Wilder caught him seriously in every fight I think, but with the last fight there was a couple of times where I thought it was over for both of them but they both got up and kept fighting. I need to watch the trilogy again but the last fight was a certified classic. Had everything you want from a fight. But why Francis is not doing this? Why is he still in UFC? You say due to contract? But he knew what he was signing. Maybe because there is no real offer for a boxing match for him and he is just speculation on his salary in UFC? He's still contracted for one more fight in the UFC but that's coming to an end. He signed the deal 5 years ago I believe and his stock has risen considerably since then. Ngannou probably will leave if he doesn't get the terms he wants, but due to the him winning the Gane fight he has a champions clause which means he's contractually obligated to defend the title but that apparently expires in December due to there being a 5 year limit in his contract so he could just run it down and become a free agent or take a better deal from the UFC. Regarding boxing, Tyson Fury is seemingly actively looking to fight Ngannou and has called him out several times even after the Gane fight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hlbzgbnCAwAs for the pay, the base pay is public and announced by the California commission what the fighters get and 600k isn't much for where Francis is at right now: https://www.mmafighting.com/2022/1/23/22897235/ufc-270-salaries-francis-ngannou-earns-600000-purse-for-win-over-ciryl-ganeFrancis Ngannou earned a purse of $600,000 for his hard-fought decision win over Ciryl Gane on Saturday in the main event of UFC 270. Gane got 500k I believe which is what Francis pretty much got for his last fight against Stipe. Do you think Francis should be paid more than 500-600k for a fight? McGregor gets millions and he's not even a champ.
Fighter should be paid the amount stated in his contract. When a plumber says he will charge you 1k, after you have agreed for 200 bucks, saying that electricians get more for their job, would you pay more? It's not really like that though. His contract is up and he's trying to negotiate more before re-signing. The bigger you get the more money you can demand just like McGregor. Ngannou is 10 times bigger now than he was 5 years ago so he should be expecting 1 million plus. If the money isn't there PPV wise then I could understand but I'm sure it did pretty well given it was a fight between the two current best heavyweights. I don't believe the PPV numbers were released for Francis' last fights so it's hard to tell. McGregor gets paid more for his name and for the level of popularity he moved UFC on. Do you think Ngannou did same for promoting UFC? He is just a big guy that brutally knocks people out. Yes, people enjoy to see how he knocks people. Currently Derrik Lewis holds the record for most knockouts in UFC, so Ngannou is not the most brutal beast in octagon.
Ngannou fights are not in PPV top, he is not the chicken that gives golden eggs. Should he be paid millions if UFC is not earning as much as from McGregor fights ?
Take McGregor out of the equation since he's out of action now and who is the second biggest draw right now? It's probably Francis. I don't know what his PPV numbers are like but they must be pretty big. Probably nowhere close to Connor but still enough to justify a bigger paycheck. I don't think Francis is being disrespectful or asking too much especially since his contract is effectively done or will be by the end of the year. I think he just wants what he believes he deserves or at least the option to go do a big-bucks boxing match. |
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Now, I am not an MCG fanboy by any means, nor am I a Francis denier, but he is nowhere close to stardom Conor was when he went to boxing. Could he make a couple of mil in boxing? Perhaps, but what after that? He will not be let back into the UFC. If anything, the UFC would gladly get rid of him to keep the status quo. So comparing Francis to Conor in terms of how much money he can make to comparable popularity is not really an indicator, because their stardom is, in fact, not comparable. Before Conor went boxing he was already somewhat of a household name. If we look outside of the MMA bubble, is Francis really known? No, not really. People have heard of him and they know of his freak punching power and his physical atributs, but besides that? No, not on the level MCG was. Can he become a bigger star in his own right? Yes he can, but he's not there yet.
He doesn't need to leave the UFC if he can get an allowance to fight in boxing like McGregor did. And Francis might not be technically a household name just yet but he's getting there and is still the best heavyweight in the UFC not to mention he is on record as the hardest hitter on the planet: Ngannou holds the record for the hardest punch ever landed at 129,161 units, with Dana White putting that figure into real-life situations. “His punches are equivalent to 96 horsepower. https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/other-sports/mma/francis-ngannou-power-ufc-270-26006147That to me adds a level of excitement to the potential Fury fight, especially when Fury is unbeaten and most of Francis' fights don't make it past the first two rounds. Could Ngannou be the first person to fully KO Fury? And that's certainly how they'll sell it. He has the potential to knock anyone out on this planet so I'd love to see how Fury defends against that. Fury will easily outbox him but if Ngannou comes out swinging it could be a different matter. That's what I like about these cross-promo events is you don't really know what's going to happen and there's always the novelty element there. Win or lose for Francis he can just ride off into the sunset with his payday or go do something else like acting and he's already popped up in a couple of films (the last Fast & Furious and the upcoming Jackass movie and I'm sure there'll be many more). If he can get his UFC contract sorted then he can just go back to that and it shouldn't be impossible if Connor can do it. Even if Dana hates his guts (which I don't think he actually does) it would still be a huge blow for the UFC to lose him so it's in his interests to keep him happy. Give him a little more cash per fight and allow him to fight a boxing superstar and take a small cut of that then everyone is happy. |
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According to reports Dana gave an interview, which I'll admit I haven't watched yet, but during the interview he claimed he had other business going on outside the arena on the night of Ngannou vs Gane, and claimed he left either before or during the co main event. Just weird how he's handed out quite a few belts in his history, over one hundred belts, and it so happens that this night he was called out.
Dana addressed why he wasn't there for the belt. He said there was something going on backstage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYFGulmviT8Not sure I believe him though. By the way, why everybody think thank Ngannou would earn millions in boxing? Before ufc created him a star, he was nobody. Without ufc promotion, would the world know that there is a boxer in France that knock people out cold? Would someone offer him a million cheque for the fight? He would need first ti go through number of fights, before he gets a real opponent and get paid huge.
Right now, if wants all that millions and boxing, why shouldnt he give belt to Gane and leave? If there are underwater stones in his contract, wait till he is completele free and whoever he want.
I understand White position. Ufc invested in Ngannou promotion, and now he or his manager just come and ask for more $. Now they want to get maximum from that investment.
Francis made Francis a star and some of the superstars outgrow the UFC like McGregor. I don't think there's many fighters in the UFC left for Francis either other than maybe a Gane rematch. Think of it like this though, would you work a job for 500k a year when you know you can go elsewhere to do the same thing and get paid multiple millions? UFC is a far harder sport than boxing as well. He would make multiple millions in boxing fighting a heavyweight superstar and he could walk into one straight away. Tyson Fury seems to be actively wanting this fight and he's the highest payday in boxing right now. Do you think Francis should be paid more than 500-600k for a fight? McGregor gets millions and he's not even a champ. I think people forget about how much money the fighters have to pay just to stay fit and healthy and in the game as well. It's not just a gym membership they have to pay for. They've got an entire team. A manger, a coach (often several in multiple disciplines), nutritionists, chefs etc. Then there's all the travel and accommodation costs. Once you've paid all that there's often not that much left from their pay. This effects the smaller fighters even more who are only getting 20k per fight etc. I remember reading that many up and coming fighters actually lose money because it costs so much just to prepare for a fight. |
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That big windscreen wiper that everyone was complaining about doesn't actually look too bad in the new video that was leaked: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9v5Gayy_EOI I'm guessing they'll probably trim a bit of its length off anyway. It probably only needs to cover the driver's field of view and it looks to go right to the top of the roof which probably isn't necessary. I am thinking that when they announced it, it was the only thing for a vehicle like that.
Now that there are many more electric pickups on the market and coming to the market it has to be better.
This has always been the issue with vehicles that are announced way ahead of time, by the time they get into production, years later it's no longer the latest and greatest since so much time has passed.
The Cybertruck is in a whole different class of its own though in my opinion. People will want it because it looks like nothing else. I couldn't care less about a pick up truck and would never own one but the Cybertruck is an entirely different beast. If people just want a regular truck then they will almost certainly just buy one of their competitors but there's really nothing exciting about all the other EV pick ups. Rivian's for example:  https://www.inverse.com/innovation/tesla-cybertruck-alternatives-rivian-jeep-gmc-hummerThey all just look like regular trucks but upgraded slightly. I'm sure the people who love pick up trucks will dig them but I think the Cybertruck is going to be a real head-turner. |
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Ngannou doesnt have huge following in social media like Masvidal or Mcgregor thats why even if he is good at his boxing and his grappling, he will still be under appreciated by White. Its a subscribers game today which there is a cancel culture 😁
If Francis Ngannou, according to Dan White, has a small number of followers in social media, he should help him increase these numbers and stand with him at least for a photo with belt. After all, Dana White should want to increase his range to earn more on the next fight. In my opinion, he acted very strangely. I don't get it. How's it a small number of followers if Francis Ngannou has 6 times more of them than Ciryl Gane?   Is that twitter? Nobody cares abut twitter followers other than SJWs. Ngannou has 3.6 million on Insta compared to 3 million for Masvidal. They're all dwarfed by McGregor's 43.8 though. People who compare fighters payment in boxing and UFC and say that UFC fighters deserves to earn more, what could you say about payment in ice hockey and field hockey? Both sports require puck, equipment and stick. Top NHL players earn 10+ millions per season. Field hockey players get around 100k. Or compare soccer player payments with Australian football payments. Unfair again?  It's not about that. 500-600k for a champion fighter of Ngannou's calibre is nothing and we're not saying they should be getting paid the same as boxers, but when they can make millions in boxing there's bound to be an exodus to that sport. From what I understand Ngannou just wants the option to be able to fight in boxing but current UFC contracts keep them locked in so they can't do anything outside of it and I think those sort of restrictive terms are going to shoot the UFC in the foot, because they just won't re-sign and go over to boxing. At the moment fighters like The Paul brothers are making more money than world champs like Francis which they're obviously going to take as an insult. UFC fighters should be paid more, but we're not saying they should be getting the big bucks from boxing mega fights. Up their pay a little, boost the winning bonuses a bit and let the bigger fighters have cross-promo matches in boxing and UFC can take their cut of that as well otherwise champs like Ngannou won't be fighting in the UFC anymore which will be a real shame. |
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Why is there no games this weekend? Doesn't seem to be any internationals or the FA Cup. I just knew Man City wasn't invincible, they've shown a number of times this season they're quite fragile, but they've just managed to pull it out of the bag. Well, they didn't this time, and they likely won't for the rest of the season. Obviously, Liverpool, and Chelsea at the minute aren't all that great at securing wins consistently, but when you look at the remaining fixtures, the time between big matches, I'm still quietly confident about Liverpool's chances this season.
It will make things interesting if City lose another game or two or drop some points on draws. They have a 9 point buffer at the top currently but they've also played an extra game. Watford is going down I think, when you fire a league winner and replace him with a dude I thought retired??  I honestly don't get why clubs sack mangers thinking it's going to do anything. It's the players on the pitch that aren't performing. It's rarely down to tactical ineptitude so I'm not sure what they think it's going to fix. Ranieri never should have been sacked from Leicester. That was shameful in my opinion. Performs a miracle and then the next season they panic and get rid at the first sight of trouble. |
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What I didn't immediately pick up on was Dana didn't give Ngannou the belt, he's usually there to tie the belt around the champions waist, but didn't do that this time. Also, one of the journalists in the post conference said that Dana wasn't there either. I'm wondering whether there's a lot more going on behind the scenes, because if we are to take Ngannou for his word, he didn't have a clue why Dana seemly trying to avoid confrontation with Ngannou on camera.
I'm noticing that there's definitely a lot more fighters speaking up about pay issues now, think Dana will be forced to raise them eventually, probably only marginal knowing Dana.
There could be some other reason why Dana wasn't there. Maybe a family emergency or something else. It will be interesting to see if he gives an explanation. It would seem kind of petty if it's just about money. Francis hasn't really been disrespectful about the whole situation at least publicly. Behind the scenes it could be a different matter, but Ngannou really isn't getting the money he deserves. I think he was paid half a million for that fight. How much money is McGregor getting? We all know he wouldn't fight for that sort of money and he hasn't been champion ages. He was also allowed to fight in boxing with the UFC getting a cut. The same should happen here. Dana just needs to compromise I would think. Ngannou probably wants bigger money, so instead of Dana giving him the money directly, allow him to have a few boxing fights. I'm not sure why the UFC puts it in the clause of the contract that they can't fight in other sports. It would probably be beneficial because you keep the fighters happy, and you also put UFC fighters in the limelight, and in front of a new audience.
Dana can't really have half his fighters swanning off from the UFC to go compete in other combat sports. It doesn't really look good for business when fighters would rather be in boxing than MMA, though I do a agree it gets more attention on the UFC from boxing fans. Dana probably does need to allow for some leeway for the big fighters though. Just put a clause in that there's the option to fight in boxing matches but it has to be a UFC-cross promotion like the Mayweather McGregor fight and maybe the UFC gets 10-20% of the purse or whatever. Otherwise there's going to be an exodus of the best fighters because boxing is where the huge money is, especially if you can be your own promoter for the event. I mean, just look at the difference in sums of money:  I imagine Ngannou would make 5-10 million for a fight against Fury. Honestly speaking though, I don't think Francis would do very well in boxing unless he can get one of those freak knock-outs but if he can't do that against Gane then I doubt he will against Fury unless he gets lucky. Fury would probably just tire him out and I couldn't see Ngannou going the full 12 rounds with him. Maybe Francis just wants one or two huge paydays then he'll go off and do acting or something. Once he leaves the UFC though there's no going back so he has to be careful. Don't know how accurate the following is but maybe Francis could just run down his contract with the UFC and let it expire: UFC heavyweight champion Francis Ngannou has lost out on $7million (£5.2m) after turning down several new contract offers from the promotion.
Ngannou is out of contract with the UFC after his decision win against Ciryl Gane at UFC 270 marked the last fight on his deal.
'The Predator' owes the UFC another fight due to the champion's clause extension, but is free to leave in December as the deal he signed into 2017 cannot exceed five years. https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/other-sports/mma/ngannou-ufc-contract-dana-white-26045218And Sean O'Malley is a good asset for the UFC who can promote fights really well. And Adesanya seems to be both a good fighter and a good fight promoter. maybe these people need to be pushed by the UFC.
I'd argue the opposite for Sean O'Malley, since to me he has a ceiling, and it definitely isn't in the top five. He's a good cash cow up until he gets found out against ranked opponents, and believe you me, he will be found out. I don't expect him to even challenge the top five, because Dana will want to protect him as much as possible. Same as Paddy who has made a great impact on fans, I think he clearly has a ceiling which probably isn't going to be anywhere near the top five. I think Dana is hoping one of O'Malley and Paddy will be the new McGregor. I think they both have potential but probably not at Connor-level. They both get attention but |
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Ngannou actually won by decision the crazy bastard. This sport is absolutely nuts sometimes. That's literally the one outcome I would have put a lot of money on not happening. Ngannou showing massive improvement in his grappling, didn't do a lot when he did get top position, but the body slams were sexy. I had either Ngannou winning by KO or Gane winning on points. I guess it was those three take downs that probably clinched it for Francis. Other than that it looked pretty even to me. I would have really liked to see how Gane handled a bomb from Francis had one of them landed but his defence was pretty good. Wonder what his next move will be, as for Gane unlucky, but just couldn't handle the sheer strength of Francis. Dana is probably sweating buckets now, since his future in Gane has been temporarily derailed, and his current champion looking elsewhere.
Francis still has a fight left now because of the win. Maybe he'll fight Gane again or maybe Jon Jones will finally come back. Not sure he should get a title shot straight away though. I think another fight with Gane would be 50/50. I wonder what is going to be Ngannou future now. He has controversies with UFC, his contract has ended now, he wants more money (got 600k for this fight and no win bonus (you can check UFC 270 payout o n wiki)), and he is a champ right now I think UFC will have to fork out now. His contract is extended because there's a Champion's clause in the contract so he's going to have to defend it again this year at some point. |
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I know I've long embraced the wooden spoon (I promise I'll do better at committing to picks in the future ), but here's my predictions for tonight's match between Norwich, and Watford. I actually think it's going to be a non eventful game, ending in a 0 - 0. If anything I see Pukki potentially netting a goal for Norwich. Watford have looked rather lackluster in all departments recently, even when they've gotten a result. Norwich haven't been much better though. I've also got the Norwich/Watford game at 0-0. Think they could cancel each other out. Both have 6 losses in a row other than their last games where Watford drew and Norwich won. Can't pick a winner so it's gonna have to be a draw for me. I've also got Wolves to win 2-0 against Brentford on the weekend. If I was going to put a lot of money on it, I'd say Wolves at least keep a clean sheet so betting against BTTS (both teams to score) market might actually be the best bet to make.
I've got a draw for this as well. If I had to pick a winner Wolves should edge it but away at Brentford I think I'll have to take the draw. Brentford's recent form looks pretty bad on paper but they've played all the giants - Man United, Liverpool and Man City within their last 5 games. |
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But where is he going to go? The UFC is the best and the biggest MMA organization in the world.
I though he wanted to try himself in boxing. But with stamina he has, there is nothing for him to catch there. He wont stand half of the fight against a real pro boxer, against someone with a good record. Besides, he is old. He is 35. I think it is unable to train your stamina at this age to be able to fight 12 rounds. He has been training mma since 2013, and before that did a year or two of boxing. Will he really be ready to stand against boxer that been training since childhood? You can be a successful boxer if the only skill you have is powerful punches. Well he's only two years older than Tyson Fury. He doesn't really need stamina either. He'll almost certainly try end the fight within a round or two by just swinging one of those bombs and hopes he gets a KO, which is entirely possible in my opinion. I'd really actually like to see the Ngannou/Fury fight. Ngannou could easily knock Fury out but he won't outbox him but it will be interesting to see Fury pull out his best rope-a-dope and Matrix moves to dodge them. If I understand the situation correctly Francis has one more fight on his contract which will expire with his fight this month, but the UFC has a champions clause which means if he wins he has to have another fight so it could be an interesting situation if his contract keeps getting extended. If he wins (or keeps winning) then he's going to have to keep fighting, but if he loses his stock will drop and is someone like Fury going to want to fight him then?
I actually wasn't aware of this, being contractually tied to the UFC basically if he continues to win. I'm not sure if this is something I should factor in when betting on the fight. I've been wondering if Ngannou has his sights set on something else over the horizon, and therefore might not be as well prepared as he usually is for fights, and therefore end up losing on that basis. Though, if this is true, and he truly wants to make the move to another sport or organisation, then it was be in his benefit somewhat to lose so he doesn't get contractually tied to keep fighting. Although, like you rightly point out if he loses he loses a big part of that fear factor which is what will get him big money elsewhere. I'm wondering if vacating the belt would be the best option if he beats Gane. That way, he doesn't technically lose, but I'm not sure how well the UFC have tied up that contract. I know there's been issues in the past where the UFC haven't allowed fighters to fight in other sports because technically they're still tied to it. I believe even retired fighters looking to make a move into boxing to get a little bit of a retirement fund. I can't for the life of me remember who it was though. I really can't call the fight at all. I think either Ngannou gets a KO or it goes the distance and Gane wins on points. It could end up being boring like the Derick Lewis fight if neither want to commit. I also wonder how much of Francis' heart is in this fight. Losing could be a win-win if it frees him up from his UFC contact. Him losing on points probably wouldn't be a bad thing for him. From what I understand it seems Ngannou is interested in re-signing with the UFC but wants a clause in his contract that allows him to box as well. Dana should probably compromise and give it to him or allow him to do it and get a 10% cut of the fight or something. It would be a huge loss for the UFC if he leaves and more more fighters will end up going when they know they can get get huge sums for these super-star cross-promotion boxing fights. Connor got an exception with Mayweather so it's not impossible. That was a co-promotion with the UFC and I believe Dana got quite a hefty cut of McGregor's purse so it's probably something he should consider letting some of the other UFC superstars do, otherwise he risks losing them all together. Win or lose in boxing Ngannou could probably retire on the paycheque he gets from Fury so it probably doesn't matter too much what actually happens and if he wins there'll probably be rematch for even more money. |
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Ngannou not likely to sign another contract with the UFC, unless they give him a hefty pay rise. Wonder how Dana will handle it, if he gives money to Ngannou, he'll need to give it to other fighters also, which could open a can of worms.
All UFC fighters should probably be paid more, but superstars like Ngannou should be on a different pay level all together anyway and the minnows can't be expecting huge sums. Francis should be getting millions per fight, but he was complaining he's only been getting 500k (or that he's not going to fight for that sort of money anymore). The trouble is, I think Ngannou is looking for the sort of riches to be found in boxing which just isn't there in the UFC. Ngannou is probably thinking why should I fight for 500k-1 million or so when I can go fight a boxing heavyweight and earn 10 million on my own terms. If I understand the situation correctly Francis has one more fight on his contract which will expire with his fight this month, but the UFC has a champions clause which means if he wins he has to have another fight so it could be an interesting situation if his contract keeps getting extended. If he wins (or keeps winning) then he's going to have to keep fighting, but if he loses his stock will drop and is someone like Fury going to want to fight him then? Ngannou's allure is that he's demolshing everyone within a round or two but if he doesn't do great against Gane interest could wane. Fury seems very interested in the fight from his recent social media posts though and it looks like there's serious talks behind the scenes but Ngannou's UFC contract is probably holding everything back. It could be a catch 22 for Francis though. If he leaves the UFC for boxing I doubt Dana will take him back if the boxing doesn't work out. I think Francis can knock anyone on the planet out, but he's not going to outbox people like Fury/Wilder etc. If he gets embarrassed in boxing he'll have no where to go but to Belator, but if he does knock Fury out it's going to be quids in for him so it's an interesting situation to be in. Either way, I'm really looking forward to the fight this weekend. Michel Pereira is on the undercard who is always an entertaining watch. |
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Total Votes: 24
Joshua: 6
Usyk: 18
Draw: 0
Not many here in the forum think Joshua will be able to beat Usyk in the rematch. As of now the poll shows 75% of the votes are for Usyk to win and only 25% so far believe Joshua will win.
Well that's not surprising given everybody saw the last fight. Unless AJ does something vastly different or just goes all out for a KO I think the exact same result will happen. According to Eddie Hearn it seems AJ would want 15 million to step aside and Dillian Whyte 5 million: https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/17382164/anthony-joshua-dillian-whyte-tyson-fury-fight-usyk/Can't see that happening. Makes much more sense to me for for AJ to just do the rematch with Usyk then the winner fights Fury (assuming Whyte doesn't win which almost certainly isn't going to happen). Even if AJ loses I'm sure the Fury/AJ fight would still be huge. |
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Also, theymos changed the payment algorithm back in May and now I think it's more proportional to how many reports you handle so maybe that's a factor. I know I at least have to handle a lot more reports for the payments to be anywhere near how they used to be before the change so maybe everyone is handling more now to keep up. Out of curiosity: if I report one post and write: "many shitposts, please check post history", and the Mod deletles spam from his post history, does that earn the Mod something too? Or just in general if a Mod removes a post that hasn't been reported: is that incentivized in any way? I wouldn't know ultimately as theymos keeps the actual details of the algorithm secret so mods can't try game it. Makes sense really as many mods would probably just concentrate on what earned them the most if they knew. The weighting of merely just deleting a post is probably minimal though and it's actually handling the report that will be the bulk of it so if you really wanted to help mods reports are where it's at, but at the same time it's not always necessary for you to waste your time reporting every post. If deleting a post carried a lot of weight staff might be more heavy handed and start removing posts that don't really need to be removed so maybe that's another good reason. The way staff are paid can't be perfect though as it doesn't take into consideration PMs reported and issues handled with that. I've suggested before that PM reports should also go into a queue which can be handled/marked bad like current reports are. Hopefully it will be on the new forum. |
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Telsa delays production of Cybertruck to 2023: source https://news.yahoo.com/telsa-delays-production-cybertruck-2023-051515648.htmlA source exclusively told Reuters on Thursday that a plan to begin production later this year was pushed back to early 2023. Tesla wants to make changes to the Cybertruck's features and functions in order to make what the source called a 'more compelling' product. Sorry, not some pleasant news. But imho also far from unexpected. I guess that those waiting need more hope and patience. On the other hand, with some luck, it may cost way less bitcoin to buy it I'm starting to wonder if the Cybertruck will be completely different by the time it actually gets made commercially or look not much like the prototypes. The biggest thing I like about it is how revolutionary it is in design and it doesn't look like any other vehicle and could be something out of a sci-fi movie ala Blade Runner. Another thing that worries me is it might not even be street-legal in the UK: https://www.forbes.com/sites/carltonreid/2019/12/16/tesla-cybertruck-not-street-legal-in-eu/?sh=61072b544d8bThe European Commission has strict automotive testing and safety protocols, and the Cybertruck—as is—would fail many of them, including increasingly stringent pedestrian and cyclist protection standards. Perhaps when it finally reaches the market sometime in 2021 or 2022, the futuristic-looking electric vehicle will have been modified to meet EU standards, but that would mean significant changes having to be made to the Cybertruck’s angular stainless-steel shell.
And it’s the Blade Runner-style aesthetics that are wowing audiences, including Blade Runner’s artistic director Syd Mead. He told Business Insider that Elon Musk’s latest toy was “stylistically breathtaking.”
That it may be, but, to be driven in Europe, the Cybertruck would need to be redesigned in different materials. Or, perhaps Tesla founder and CEO Elon Musk is banking on the Cybertruck being sold in the U.S. only? Many motor vehicles in the U.S. are exempt from pedestrian protection protocols.
According to EU auto standards expert Stefan Teller the Cybertruck would have to undergo “major modifications to the basic structure” because the Cybertruck “contradicts the European security philosophy.” Though maybe the UK doesn't have to abide by European Union standards now after Brexit, but I'm not sure Elon would go to the trouble of changing all that stuff just so it could be sold in Europe. It seems like it would need a from-the-ground-up overhaul just to be legal and it might not even be financially worth doing so. Trucks aren't as popular in the UK as elsewhere and the pre-order stats for Europe pale in comparison to North America: https://electrek.co/2020/03/28/tesla-cybertruck-top-10-countries-reserving-electric-pickup-truck/Top 10 countries for Cybertruck pre-orders 1 United States (76.25%) 2 Canada (10.43%) 3 Australia (3.16%) 4 United Kingdom (1.39%) 5 Norway (1.11%) 6 Germany (1.05%) 7 Sweden (0.83%) 8 Netherlands (0.67%) 9 France (0.44%) 10 Iceland (0.44%) |
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There are two small references to bitcoin and cryptocurrency in the movie "Don't look up" on Netflix:
1:16:45 --> someone in the background just shout "Buy cryptocurrencies!"
1:21:54 --> one character says, off-camera: "Not bitcoins. Ratcoins..."
Yeah, saw this, but it was so minor and quiet I had to turn on the subtitles to check I heard correctly. There's a film coming out this year that seems to have bitcoin at the center of the plot: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3128024/?ref_=kw_li_ttA white collar of a Major World Bank is involved in illegal financial transactions through the Dark Web, becoming the target of a manhunt to find and kill who has stolen millions of Bitcoins from a strange and hidden Organization who's able to drop the Blockchain. |
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Philippe Coutinho has signed with Villa. Never saw that coming. Kieran Trippier has also gone to Newcastle. Wonder if the Geordies will sign a big name this year. Not sure I'd put Kieran Trippier in that bracket.
I used to love how Coutinho plays, so its nice to see him in the Premier League again. Whether or not he'll gain his previous form from when he was here last will remain to be seen, but I think it was quite obvious to everyone watching at the time, he has something special about him. Since leaving Liverpool his career has taken a massive downer though. I'm sure he'll do well at Villa though he'll seem out of place. It's a weird signing for sure. Is he starting this weekend? They're playing Man United. I was tempted to go with a draw on that game but a home win wouldn't surprise me either given Man U's shakiness right now. If Coutinho is playing I might back it. Trippier is a decent signing, probably the best they can get considering they will likely be battling for relegation. I know they pretty much have unlimited money, but not all the top players want to be earning money, they also want to be winning trophies.
I haven't been following him since he left the PL but going from ATL to Newcastle is a big drop off for him. Was he playing much there or is he just getting a bigger paycheck out Newcastle? If they beat Watford tomorrow then they'll leapfrog them out of the relegation zone so could be a good match to watch. |
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I have to say, Adama Traore coming on in 2nd half looked like he doesn't even belong in Championship. Shocking ball control, shocking passing, he was never a clinical finisher and poor Jimenez looks like he's afraid of the shadows, but Adama has to be one of the most regressed players I've ever seen coming up from Championship.
Seems a bit harsh. I don't think he's an excellent player, but he's impressed me more often than not when I've seen him play. He's good enough for Watford let's put it that way, and they've been doing great this season. I do agree with Welsh though, that his speed and size probably aid him and I have seen him tear through half the pitch before. https://talksport.com/football/1010942/premier-league-transfer-news-gossip-done-deals-liverpool-man-united-chelsea-arsenal-newcastle-aston-villa-everton-tottenham/Philippe Coutinho has signed with Villa. Never saw that coming. Kieran Trippier has also gone to Newcastle. Wonder if the Geordies will sign a big name this year. Not sure I'd put Kieran Trippier in that bracket. |
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Without double checking the numbers (I may have missed a transaction), it adds up to 40,9048.51 USD based on Blockchair's USD estimate at the time funds were moved from the escrow address.
Thanks. I think $40k is approximately the number we should be looking to be accounted for then, though it could be more or less depending on what he actually did with it once it was moved. It could have sat on exchanges for a while or been traded or loaned out etc. The pictures of the things that have been posted probably wouldn't amount to more than a couple of thousand USD I would think. Even then, we can't be certain the money was spent on those goods either. He or others could be working for other businesses or charities that are involved in such action and these guys could just be taking credit for it. I think if he did spend a decent chunk of money on charitable actions then he probably should be able to provide a lot more evidence other than a few pictures as there should be a good paper trail. I'm guessing he didn't pay for everything in cash so there should be some bank statements that he could show to prove that at least some money was spent on what he said it was. He did offer to share his bank statements with someone so maybe someone should look into that. Does anyone know how much he earns? I saw in his last post that he claimed he spent half a million on his wedding. If he's being serious and that's in his native currency isn't that nearly 10k USD? That would probably be a very elaborate wedding by Philippine standards. Unfortunately if they can't really provide any evidence of where the money is gone I think greed probably got to them.
I don't think the lack of being able to prove their expenses is evidence of wrongdoing. They did not agree to prove their expenses and continued operating for years without proving their expenses, but did receive additional donations after their level of documentation was well known. Someone asking questions is not evidence of guilt. I'm curious of all the TXIDS that happened during the spit that cabalism mentioned. Also, as escrow, why you agreed vs keeping the funds in escrow?
As a charity, their intention is obviously to spend their donations on charitable causes. The only way to spend donations is to distribute money to those able to spend money on causes the charity wants to help. Where have the funds gone? 'I don't know' or 'we spent them'. Can you show proof of this. Not really. That doesn't look good does it? Of course not being able to provide 100% proof for 100% of the funds means they misspent all the money on themselves but if they can't show reasonable proof where all this money went we should ask why that is. When you cash out the money they will have sent it to their bank account and if they gave that money to the charity then there should be a very good paper trail there. Of course, if they've spent it on living a life of luxury for themselves then it would be a lot harder to account for. Without any sort of proof or accountability we really can't just take their word for it. I would assume of anybody that if they couldn't provide reasonable proof of where the money went then there has been at least some misappropriation. cabalism13, in his last post, seems to have gone on the defensive and used the criticism as an excuse to just leave rather than try rectify the situation. Why would that be? It would be much better for everyone if he actually tried to show proof of where all this money has gone but if he knows he can't then what else is he to do other than just bounce and run away from the situation? |
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 A very bold prediction from LTU there . I'm guessing he wanted to go for 1-3. Looks like the game is going to end 0-0 anyway so probably nothing lost. Damnit, I knew I shouldn't have clicked on this thread before watching the Arsenal/City match. Oh well, I really had high hopes for Arsenal for their home game against City. This could have been the match where Arsenal established themselves as a legitimate Top-Four team for the season, and would have been a great way to start the new year.
They're doing well but I don't think well enough to beat City. Got the exact score right on that one but it's probably the only points I'll be getting from today. The Sunday games look hard to pick for me. I've got all draws in but I might have to change some. Maybe Leeds and Liverpool can get wins. I'll wait for the line-ups as that will be a big factor, especially for Leeds. |
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