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681  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sportsbet.io's English Premier League Football Pool Discussion Thread on: February 08, 2021, 05:35:48 PM
I'm with Trofo on Leeds. 2/1 is a value bet however you see it, certainly without Zaha Palace will be tempted to park the bus but I think Leeds are the type of team to just go for the onslaught. Liverpool face problems breaking teams down but Leeds are much more direct... harder to defend against. Super Boost on correct score is tempting... 1-0 or 2-0?

If Palace have a very weakened team then I'll probably go with Leeds but I'll need to see the line-ups first. Is Zaha the only player that's out? People are saying there's a lot out but I can't see any concrete news about that.

BREAKING NEWS:  Alisson caught a case of Karius Syndrome.

^  Stole that from the comments section of a Liverpool vs City highlight vid.  Lolol.  Cheesy


Yeah, he had a bit of a nightmare in the second half giving away the ball twice. Unusual for him. I wonder if Klopp will bench him?

Leeds vs C Palace tonight, the way Leeds play I don’t think it’ll be 0-0 Cheesy

I've put my usual bet on when I think there could be goals:



Not sure if Palace will get two without Zaha but it's worth a shot.

682  Economy / Reputation / Re: Long-time sig campaign farm ID'd via single wallet transaction on: February 08, 2021, 11:26:49 AM
I think the lesson to be drawn from this is that decentralized and anonymous systems will never really be able to implement even a semblance of fair business practices. There will always be the need for a way to track participant actions that affect the business. While this forum and bitcoiners proselytize about the benefits of "decentralization", they accept wrongdoing, fraud and plain corruption as "sleight of hand". We all accept this "He did it because he could, lets forget about it" mentality over such things. This is one of the biggest hurdles for the concept of decentralization to truly become useful. Because if you are going to be vulnerable to the same scheming and collusion, why really bother to change the present system. Lets just keep morals, ethics aside and everybody go mooooooon.


You can just as easily steal and defraud with cash, anonymously or otherwise. This isn't something unique to decentralized and anonymous systems. This is also just another example of why morality isn't always black and white. Is it ok to steal? Most people would say no. Is it ok to steal to feed your dying children? Most would probably say yes or would do so if they were in that situation. Is is ok to use multiple free coupons for something that explicitly states only one per customer? Who cares? Of course you can argue that it's not fair to everyone else but if something can be exploited it will and for those that get caught doing so there's likely going to be consequences. I don't think there's ever going to be a system that can't be cheated somehow though. People are pushing for things like blockchain-based voting systems and whilst I think they'd be better than the current very outdated 'counting-by-hand' system that most govs seem to use blockchain systems can still be cheated at the user end. People will just start selling their votes and without in person ID checks our some other system fraud will still be possible, but just think of how many votes were lost in the post or how many of the people counting engaged in fraud or unfair practices and there's no real checks or balancing with the current system. 

It’s absolutely 100% fair free market anarchy..
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In a decentralized world you have to think of what is possible without bounds of morality, and expect whatever to happen accordingly..
Keep your eyes out for scammers and others to take advantage of every and any opportunity..
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This is crypto.. Stop thinking in a world of rules and control and start thinking in a world where all possibilities and opportunities will be taken advantage of by someone, and protect yourself accordingly..
I think this would be a very good subject for another topic! In a way I really like what you said here, but at the same time I totally disagree. From what I've seen, I think theymos would completely agree with you point of view here.

There's always a least two points of view. For instance, some people including many here believe total anarchy and no governments would be the better system. Personally I don't. I think big gov is bad and should be scaled back but I think if it was just an 'everybody-for-themselves' free-for-all then it would be a pretty nightmare-ish scenario to me and bodies would soon start piling up on the streets, but hey, the rich guys living in their fortresses protected with tanks and guns would be ok and everyone else can fight it out on the streets.

Does it make any of you that never got into the CM campaign angry that he was 3X a better poster than you? Lol..
Because that’s basically what it boils down to..



You can look at it like cheating a lottery. Imagine ten equally great posters apply for ten spots on the campaign. One guy enters with 8 accounts and three of his get it, whilst the others who don't have essentially been cheated by the odds.

He stole money from other potential participants, and cheated the company that is requesting the service (as they stated that they didn't want to enrol alts). Just because you can't name them, doesn't mean they don't exist, like suchmoon said. He might have stole 2 BTC from you. How would you feel about that?


He didn't steal anything. It's only stealing if it was someone else's property in the first place. He cheated the rules and took a potential spot away from someone but it's not stealing. If there's only two cans of beans left on the shelf in a store and someone gets there before me and buys two they haven't stolen them from me. They got there first. Maybe it's only one can of beans per person and maybe they jumped the que to get them or maybe they got their wife to also go in and get a can or two as well. It's 'unfair for sure but that's life and it's certainly not stealing.
683  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The UFC Info and Prediction Thread on: February 08, 2021, 10:35:37 AM
I think I would have liked Conor get a fight in with someone else before the rematch with Poirier. I know that Chandler has been quite vocal about fighting for a belt against Poirier, and honestly thought he might deserve it more. Conor, has been out a long time, and hasn't won in a long time now (simply because he's been doing other things). I know that Conor, and Khabib actually have been pushing their own fitness programs recently, so you'd expect Conor to keep on fighting if he didn't get this rematch right away, but then again Khabib is still doing it without the exposure of the UFC right now.

I'd still probably want Conor to win in the rematch, and we might see some better odds this time around making a punt worth it on him. If this does happen, then its the perfect time for Conor to show his commitment, despite many questioning it.

Well there's certainly many more 'better' fights for him but they're also the tougher ones which are potentially not great for his brand right now if he can't win them. If Conor just keeps getting beat by every other fighter he's gonna quickly go down the rankings and become a has-been and it will end up with him being the one looking for fights rather than people desperately trying to fight him. I think he knows he can beat Poirier fairly easy so he's likely banking on that. He'll be better prepared next time and know what to expect so I think Poirier will have to mix it up as I doubt he'll win by the kicks again. I don't know what Conor will do if he loses this trilogy fight though.



However, similar to show business, if the movie will not make the projected profit, it might not be produced hehe. Who would like to watch this? The timing would be wrong. Also, a fight vs. Nate Diaz and win might also not save Conor from his situation. He can short cut out of the situation by fighting Justin Gaethje and win, however hehehe.

Any fight involving McGregor will make big bank. His fights are all in the top 3 of all time including the second Poirier bout:



I'm sure the trilogy fight would equal or maybe even beat the second one, or for sure be top 5. A trilogy fight against Diaz would probably do even better as would a rematch against Khabib which would almost certainly take the first spot again.

Yeah, proper 12 is about the typical price for "consumer" whiskeys, and what I mean by that is the ones which are the most popular. Think Jack Daniels, Jim Bean, and all those other similar type whiskeys. As I don't typically drink these types of brands, I've just ignored Proper 12, just because I would expect the same type of tastes. I'd be interested in hearing off anyone on here who's actually tasted it, and isn't inflating their opinions on a review as there's definitely been mixed reviews on it.

All whisky taste like fire ass water to me. Most people who drink it probably don't like it or could tell much of a difference between other brands.

Back to the UFC, I'll put up my predictions in the next day or so. As for Conor, I don't think he deserves Khabib, as it would be the the same old story, and I don't think Khabib is actually wanting to come out of retirement, and it was just Dana trying to get eyes on the last event. However, I think Conor should be fighting a top 5 fighter other than Poirier before getting his rematch.

He doesn't deserve it. You can't get a title shot on the back of a loss. Khabib likely won't fight him anyway as he also feels like he doesn't deserve it. I think Conor is going to have to have a few spectacular results under his belt before we see any potential Khabib rematch and that's assuming he isn't done for good.

Conor has claimed that he's been preparing for the Pac fight, and overlooked Poirier, but I'm not sure I entirely believe that. He must have known how dangerous Poirier was, and he knows that you have to keep fighting to be the best, something which he hasn't been doing recently. So, you would have expected him to train the best he could coming into this fight.

'Preparing' might be a loose term. I'm sure he's keeping fit but I don't think that fight will happen anytime soon and Conor's probably just using that potentially happening as a bargaining chip with the UFC to get him the fights he wants or he'll concentrate on boxing.





It was a shocking ending, Cory Sandhagen did a fast KO to a vanguard that is Frankie Edgar, That Flying was very effective indeed mostly for a shorter opponent, in my opinion, Sandhagen was calculating Frankie Edgar's movement before he tries and connects that flying knee otherwise it will not become effective to get Frankie Edgar out cold on the canvas. I sure thought it was going to be a bloody fight but Sandhagen knowing Edgar to be a tough one to crack resolves in taking out Edgar faster.

I didn't watch the card but watched the highlights of this one. I still think Masvidal's knee was the best knee knockout ever. If someone is going to beat Khabib they need to catch him with a knee when he catapults at them to take them down which he always does. If you're fast enough and you land a knee I think that would be lights out for most people. It's easier said than done though especially at the scorpion pace Khabib throws himself at people though.
684  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sportsbet.io's English Premier League Football Pool Discussion Thread on: February 08, 2021, 10:04:59 AM
Liverpool unfortunately did not show any consistency this year and now Manchester City leads alone after Manchester United could not win against Everton.

I thought they played decent enough the first half even though it was pretty boring but they managed to keep it goaless. Went to shit towards the end though and City were just too strong.

On a bright side I got two correct scores this week with Tottenham and Chelsea games which helped me climb the ladder a bit.

I also got two scores right. Only got another two results right though.



Looks like the yellow cap this week is between LFC, Death Angel, hahay and Mosala. Looks like whoever gets the right score will win it though a close one will do for LFC.



what would Leeds do tonight, seems as goals are certain, and win is not that certain tonight

It's a hard game to call but I'll probably go for a draw unless there's drastic changes to the line-ups. If Palace are missing some big players I'll probably go with a home win.
685  Other / Meta / Re: Decline of Marketplace activity/trading on: February 05, 2021, 10:46:34 AM
It's a discussion forum primarily not a marketplace, but either way there's nothing the forum can do about it or promote it. What would you suggest? Offer to cover escrow fees or offer free shipping or something? There's nothing you can do if people don't want to trade here and the forum shouldn't get involved in that just like it doesn't get involved with many other things like scams and such. It's a niche market and always will be for numerous reasons.


To be honest I'd rather just use other such platforms. They have more of an audience unless it's some niche bitcoin thing, but if you want to sell regular goods there's many better sites and apps that you're likely going to have better success with.



   We are not using BTC Million Dollar Space!BTC   

We can easily publish the precious data in the space as shown in the SS. It is the first thing you see every-time you visit the Home / log in / Any Section or Board of the forum.

It could be literally used for anything from the Advertising of Projects to the Auctions or New releases. This will help direct the users to the specific target in no time. The space is completely useless at this point. One can publish hell lot of things here.

It could generate decent income for the forum and can also help advertisers to reach new level of audience.




For example, an auctioneer can decide to publish his Service Link in this space with the images to attract new buyers easily. They could share x% to the forum for using that space. Tell me if this won't help? It could be amazing way of publication and revenue generation.




Many ways are there to increase the activity and income on this forum. The only thing is we need an agenda, explorer team and developers for the same.  Cheesy

I've suggested things like this in the past with people being able to buy banners at the top of certain sub boards so they can target their audience better ie a gambling site would advertise in the gambling section and so on, but theymos doesn't seem to care about it. In fact, he seems to be against more advertising or doesn't want banners everywhere, but I think they'd be better than sigs and even if people find them unsightly it can't be more unsightly that sig ads especially when they come along with spam. If he did want to generate more money - and that's not something he seems to be that bothered about right now - you could easily implement more donator ranks like I mentioned above and that would be a great source of passive income and one that doesn't involve unsightly banners or sigs.
686  Economy / Reputation / Re: Long-time sig campaign farm ID'd via single wallet transaction on: February 05, 2021, 10:34:32 AM

Against hop hopen, I hope he comes back and uses this anonymity to come clean with the story of how he feels about doing this  and shares his thought process about the "ethics" of it all.

I doubt whatever he says will change anything so it's probably futile offering explanations or excuses. It's hardly a crime what he did and he could have just seen it as having multiple jobs or sources of income. I think the people who want a spot on the campaign might not see it like that but at the end of the day he probably did it just because he could and it's relatively easy money. Would it matter to most if he really needed the money or it was his only source of income? Doubt it.


Also wonder if mods knew this by IP the entire time and kept their mouths shut..
This is important to know. It'll be great if the mods can clarify this.. Whether they actually scrutinize IP logs for wrongdoing?? The least the mods can do is look at the IP logs of those accounts and see for themselves whether it was possible to identify them? This would probably bring some form of closure to those who feel cheated that the most aspirational Sig campaign on the forum was exploited for so long.

Read my above post. It's none of the admins or mods business. Only admins have access to IPs and having multiple accounts isn't against the rules nor would they care about what campaigns they were on so it's not something they would look into and certainly wouldn't share that info. I can guarantee you there have been worse abuses than this gone on in the past and I'm sure there's many more who are doing stuff like this that we don't know about especially in the alt coin campaign world, but it's not something staff would get involved with unless it breaks the rules. All it would take would be to use a proxy for each account and staff would be non the wiser anyway.
687  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The UFC Info and Prediction Thread on: February 05, 2021, 10:24:40 AM
I think I would have liked Conor get a fight in with someone else before the rematch with Poirier. I know that Chandler has been quite vocal about fighting for a belt against Poirier, and honestly thought he might deserve it more. Conor, has been out a long time, and hasn't won in a long time now (simply because he's been doing other things). I know that Conor, and Khabib actually have been pushing their own fitness programs recently, so you'd expect Conor to keep on fighting if he didn't get this rematch right away, but then again Khabib is still doing it without the exposure of the UFC right now.

I'd still probably want Conor to win in the rematch, and we might see some better odds this time around making a punt worth it on him. If this does happen, then its the perfect time for Conor to show his commitment, despite many questioning it.

I think it's the best fight for him now. Who else could he fight that he's got a chance with? Conor looked good in the first round, he just got shook in the second so I think I'd probably back him to win the rematch. It's a fight I think he can easily win just like the first match-up. Then he can go onto more exciting fights but he shouldn't be jumping the gun and going for fights like Khabib right now (not that Khabib would agree to fight him right now anyway). He needs to prove he can beat Poirier though. I don't think either of them deserve title shots right now especially not McGregor.

Nobody buys Proper 12 because it cost a lot. This blend cost as much as decent single malt, which quality is way greater than Proper 12. Proper 12 is like Jack Daniels, but cost 20-30% more. I like how our local retailers increase Proper 12 price every time Conor fight, and add a discount  Grin

But thanks to Conor, now everyone tried to produce something. Dana White - Howlers head, Poirier - sous for example, Khabib - mobile carrier "Eagle Mobile".

I have never tried Proper 12, mainly because of the bad reviews, and also because of the very high price. Yes, I also noticed how before the fight of Conor the price rises and they make a discount. ) Conor is a good showman but it's just as good that he thinks on the future  and producing a product that can support his future life. Only he would have to think about lowering the price, so that his whiskey would first become popular and everything is available and only after that raise the price a little. I think such a strategy would give a better result in sales.

It seems to be around the same price as Jack Daniels over here. As with any athletes they tend to retire fairly early so they're often out of work in their 30s so a smart one will diversify, especially one like as brandable as Conor as he's one of the biggest/most lucrative fighters in the world so it makes sense to promote other businesses whilst he has eyeballs on him and that way he'll continue to generate cash once he's out of the limelight or stepped away from fighting.
688  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sportsbet.io's English Premier League Football Pool Discussion Thread on: February 05, 2021, 10:03:45 AM
So @Tomahawk9 won the 22nd round and extend his lead on the top of the leaderboard . He has been standing on top of the leaderboard for weeks and yet this is the first time that he wins the Yellow Cap   Tongue

Slow and steady wins the race. It's much better in the long run to have consistent scores every week than win the yellow cap once or twice or be challenging for it a few times. 

I still say this is all the jinxing caused by all the pundits saying how good we looked earlier in the season. Same as what happened when Arsenal sat at the top at the start of the league. It is like as soon as everyone says how good a club is, it seems to fall. So in that spirit,,,  Manchester City look so good and they are now serious favorites to win it right?

Losing Van Dijk was a big blow. City have looked a lot stronger from the start to be fair. I don't think they've been playing exceptional though. The game between them this weekend is going to be really interesting. Maybe Liverpool can get some points from it being at home and turn their fortunes round.
689  Economy / Reputation / Re: Long-time sig campaign farm ID'd via single wallet transaction on: February 04, 2021, 11:39:44 AM
If you often make many more than the 50 post maximum, and there is an open spot, I don't see why DS would not be willing to give you a second spot, so that you would be eligible for payment from 100 posts/week, provided the additional 50 posts you make each week have been consistently better than other applicants who were applying for open spots.

This wouldn't be a good idea and definitely isn't fair to others. I'm sure there are lots of people who can, would or do make more than their paid amount, but if this became a thing there would be a hell of a lot more people trying to go for multiple spots. It's best just to keep it at one per person and if someone makes more than their allotted 50 post maximum then that's not only just a bonus for Chipmixer but also proves that that person isn't posting just to get paid. Either way, I would be very surprised if Darkstar started doing something like this. He might as well just up the maximum post count to 100 or something to make it fairer but 50 post a week is a pretty nice amount and works out to 10 a day 5 days a week. Any more and people would probably start forcing themselves to make more posts which isn't good. 

For clarity, while I do think it should be okay for someone to enroll alts in a signature campaign, I also believe this should either be disclosed (at least privately to the campaign manager), or for there to not be a rule prohibiting this. Enrolling two accounts owned by one person is not something that should be done if the campaign manager is not aware, or if there is a rule prohibiting this.

Most people aren't going to disclose their alts unless it's already public knowledge, but they don't do that because most campaigns strictly prohibit multiple accounts so that's why people keep it on the hush hush. I very much doubt things are going to change regarding that or how people treat 'cheaters' of campaigns. It's best to just not get greedy and keep it to one account per campaign or certainly don't get caught but there's likely always going to be consequences for those that do.
690  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The UFC Info and Prediction Thread on: February 04, 2021, 11:27:12 AM
Looks like the Poirier trilogy fight is definitely in the works:

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BEST OF THREE Conor McGregor ‘buzzing’ for Dustin Poirier trilogy ‘for all the marbles’ as American confirms it’s in the pipeline

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/13942303/conor-mcgregor-dustin-poirier-rematch-ufc/

 
Makes sense for everyone involved really especially if both fighters want it. It's going to be red panty night for Poirier for sure. I'm not sure who I'd pick in a rematch. Conor needs to get the job done though to get back on track. Losing again is going to put him back by quite a bit.

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McGregor has tonight uploaded a lengthy caption on Instagram where he all-but confirms the two warriors will go at it for a third time for 'all the marbles'.

And the triumphant Poirier appeared to confirm it too, as he tweeted shortly after: "You know we are going to do it a third time."

Alongside a highlights video from the fight, former two-weight world champ McGregor wrote: "What a trilogy I now have on my hands. Exciting!

"With a handle on the leg kicks I will get back to having fun in there. I was in second gear cruising this fight. Best condition I’ve ever been in.

"After the wrestling and clinch exchanges my shots still held their pop. First time for me with this so I am very encouraged to keep going.

"It was the first time I did not use/nor need the stool between rounds also. I did need the stool after though that’s for sure.

"I am extremely happy I did not need to use the stool between rounds here anyway. Another first for me!

Maybe he should use the stool this time. It's going to be interesting seeing how he adapts his game and deals with those leg kicks which he's obviously going to be vary weary of. Is Poirier going to just keep kicking or try something else?
691  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sportsbet.io's English Premier League Football Pool Discussion Thread on: February 04, 2021, 11:14:04 AM
First Burnley and now Brighton. We are home sick. I lost my hope.

This is not us!

I didn't watch either games, but did those teams play great or did Liverpool just play shite? They're playing Man City on Sunday and that could be embarrassing for them. They really need to take some points from City if they wanna stay in the title race. There's a seven point gap right now with City having a game in hand as well. I'm doing terrible this round. Didn't get any points from last nights games other than 3 from a correct score on the City match.

I'm not so sure after losing 2-0 at home to Newcastle last week. Leeds played well as well. Either a home win or maybe a draw for me but I wouldn't back Everton especially away.

Leeds for the win for me actually. Everton were exciting early season but I think that rested too much on Richarlison and Digne, and once those two got red carded in succession, they never seemed to find their rhythm again.


in the end Everton won it yesterday, to quote myself

~snip
Everton should win today at Leeds

It was close though. Leeds hit the post twice and I think they deserved a point overall.

Spurs v Chelsea tonight is going to be a tough one to call. Don't trust either teams to get the job done.
692  Other / Meta / Re: Should all scam busting techniques be made public? on: February 03, 2021, 06:34:15 PM
Well it's always a catch 22 situation as you have to show the evidence at some point if you want to expose someone and some people will learn from that. You could maybe offer sufficient proof but keep something to yourself id there's more but it's always going to be cat and mouse chase. If you're smart then you'll never get caught or exposed (think satoshi), but if you're and idiot or don't cover your tracks sufficiently then you'll likely get caught eventually (Ross Ulbricht) but at some point how you got caught is going to come to light and is a necessary process so there's nothing you can do about people learning what not to do. A while back I think some people did discuss or propose some sort of hidden sub board for scam investigations but that could be compromised and even so at some point the info is going to become public so there's not much you can do. Scammers and schemesters will likely get smarter and clever trying to avoid detection and scambusters/grasses will also get more determined and thorough. Covering your tracks by not using the same addresses is pretty basic way of not getting caught and most people should know that by now though.

Do you believe those participants are doing a signature campaign on the Chipmixer they don't know about address connection? Of course, they know, but he/she wasn't imagined that he/she will be caught. I assume you mean that we shouldn't reveal all the methods of exposing scammers. But fortunately when you will try to prove someone as a scammer, ultimately the methods of investigation will be revealed. For example, nutildah exposed signature by investigating bitcoin addresses, if he doesn't show the connection between each other, will you believe all those accounts are connected. No one will believe verbal explanations without solid evidence. Yes, we can keep secret investigation tools.

Not everyone knows but it's pretty obvious to anyone that isn't a complete idiot that you can be caught this way.
693  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The UFC Info and Prediction Thread on: February 03, 2021, 05:29:34 PM
Nobody is buying Proper 12 whisky because they think it's better than all the rest; they're buying it because it's Connor's and the stock in that brand will decrease drastically if he walks away.

Nobody buys Proper 12 because it cost a lot. This blend cost as much as decent single malt, which quality is way greater than Proper 12. Proper 12 is like Jack Daniels, but cost 20-30% more. I like how our local retailers increase Proper 12 price every time Conor fight, and add a discount  Grin

But thanks to Conor, now everyone tried to produce something. Dana White - Howlers head, Poirier - sous for example, Khabib - mobile carrier "Eagle Mobile".

Depends where you live. I'm not sure it's even available in England or at least it wasn't so if some shops stock it they've probably imported it which will pump up the price. Regardless, if Conor disappears from the fighting world that's going to take away a lot of eyeballs from his whisky which he probably needs to keep in the limelight for it to be successful until it supersedes him.

Nobody is buying Proper 12 whisky because they think it's better than all the rest; they're buying it because it's Connor's and the stock in that brand will decrease drastically if he walks away.

Nobody buys Proper 12 because it cost a lot. This blend cost as much as decent single malt, which quality is way greater than Proper 12. Proper 12 is like Jack Daniels, but cost 20-30% more. I like how our local retailers increase Proper 12 price every time Conor fight, and add a discount  Grin

But thanks to Conor, now everyone tried to produce something. Dana White - Howlers head, Poirier - sous for example, Khabib - mobile carrier "Eagle Mobile".

Also there is Jorge Masvidal's tequila and according to a news item last year, Jon Jones had an open bottle of this on the seat of his car when he was caught drunk driving again hehehe.

In any case, I predict Dana's next storyboards might be Conor vs. Nate in the welterweight division. Michael Chandler vs. Justin Gaethje and Dustin Poirier vs. Charles Oliviera.

Conor and Nate would be a good fight, though it's one that could be a bit dicey for Conor, but with Diaz being out of action for quite some time that could be an advantage. I think the Diaz and Poirier trilogy fights will both be on the cards at some point assuming Conor keeps fighting. I think the Poirier one is the most likely to happen especially given that they both seemed to want it and both fighters will think it's a fight they can easily win since they've done it once each before. It's for sure the biggest payday Poirier will get right now so if Conor wants it as well he'd be silly not to make it happen.
694  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2020/2021 on: February 03, 2021, 02:40:03 PM
I feel sorry for Arsenal when they had the game under control but a red card which could have been avoided compromised their game and finally led them to a lost game.
English refs are the worst I don't know why VAR was introduced in the first place, I thought it was introduced to correct mistakes like this one because the Red card to David Luiz was uncalled for. They might win the appeal but the match is ruined forever.

Well it should be used for obvious errors but it's being used for everything, and checking every goal is overkill and unnecessary. It's made the game worse for sure. It takes far too much time out of the game which was already an issue. They should go to a system where each team gets three appeals to check something and once they've used them that's it. It wouldn't be so bad if VAR always got the calls right but we're still seeing mistakes and offsides given for being a millimetre offside and sometimes if they had a better angle ie one straight down the line it probably wouldn't even be offside half of the time.


Manchester United 9 - 0 Southampton

unbelievable, it looked like manchester united was on the field alone
You're right, It's 9 heaven for united, and It was a pleasure to watch Manchester United tonight. Manchester United are known for record breakers, and this confidence boost into their next game. I still can't understand what the heck was going on with Southampton, couldn't make any score and lost 9-0?

Well they were a man down from 2 minutes into the game so that played a big factor.
695  Economy / Reputation / Re: Long-time sig campaign farm ID'd via single wallet transaction on: February 03, 2021, 02:29:41 PM
It seems that timeloard believes one of the accounts is a farmed account connected to a different farm. IDK if the accounts are still “connected” to the same person as the connection is from several years ago. My guess is that all the accounts in the OP were likely available for sale at one point, if not actually sold.

I wouldn't trust timelord's ratings especially ones from so long ago as 2017. He used to have a bizarre habit of tying people together using twisted logic that only made sense to him. My memory is hazy but I'm pretty sure figmentofmyass was well known to belong to an account farmer or was sold at one point. That name definitely sticks out.

Another good example is this one. This guy said, "as they say", so I wondered who does he mean by "they" because I've never heard the expression said that way before. It turns out it was himself.

"as they say" is a pretty common turn of phrase. It's just being rhetorical.

Which is too bad because he's quite an intelligent guy.

He has to be intelligent for writing so much posts everyday in same campaign with 3 accounts and from bitcoin he earned this is probably his full time job, and playing poker with himself figmentofmyass vs manchester93 it's a winwin situation for him until he lose it all Cheesy

It doesn't really take a genius to make posts here. It probably takes a decent chunk of time and effort especially to get them onto the campaign in the first place but after that making posts is relatively easy, not to mention very lucrative especially with three accounts so it's worth it. You could probably even do it in your spare time after work to be honest if you were efficient enough. He's not exactly writing thesisis with every post so typing words on a forum isn't exactly a big deal even giving his volume.


How the heck do users even post with that many accounts? They have to be posting in the same threads and answering each other. I barely post on my 1 account, couldn't imagine the hell it would be to try making quotas weekly on 10+ accounts.

Probably easier than doing a full time job. Would you rather write reports as a desk jockey all day or do manual labour all week or just make posts on a forum all day instead.

If these guys all used the same device for posting then I'd imagine one of them would've posted something using the wrong account and get busted much earlier.
Wonder if they just have a bunch of cheap chromebooks that they use to keep everything separated.

No need. Just use different browsers. If the forum used browser fingerprinting it might require this sort of effort to evade detection ultimately but the admins rarely look into things like ban evasion so they're not going to bother with sig campaigners.

I personally don’t think bending the rules of a signature campaign is all that big of a deal..
I think entering multiple alts in a free contest is much more “cheating” than breaking a sig campaign rule..
In fact I’m not even sure “cheating” the campaign is the correct word to use if he did in fact create all of that quality content and therefore quality advertising which probably had zero effect on the value of advertising he was paid to provide..


Depends on your stance really. It's obviously not a crime, but it's against the terms of service, and a lot of people here tend to think abusing campaigns this way is shady or at the very least dishonest. Chipmixer campaign is very in demand so those slots could have been given to other people so there's an issue of fairness/greed that people won't appreciate.

Also wonder if mods knew this by IP the entire time and kept their mouths shut..
Only theymos and Cyrus have access to IP logs, not the moderators. I would also be very surprised if it turned out they were arbitrarily looking up user's IP logs just for the fun of it without some prior suspicion or indication.

Correct. And this wouldn't be a forum issue anyway so not something they'd get involved with. It's probable he used proxies as well, or would have been smart to do so, but then again wouldn't have been necessary but not something you'd want to leave to chance.


It’s just more sensational because it’s chipmixer...

This isn't really true. This sort of farming/abuse has always caused a stir here and has always elicited negative feedback. The fact that it's chipmixer just means it's a bigger payday and more of a headline given the financial loss to the farmer. If someone was discovered with ten accounts on another campaign the thread would be very similar to this one.
696  Other / Meta / Re: Decline of Marketplace activity/trading on: February 03, 2021, 01:52:39 PM
We have had bull markets in the past that has caused bitcoin to go up further than it has in the past several months. All of your other concerns have always been a problem with trading on this forum.

The value of bitcoin is higher now - doubly so - than it was back then so people are probably even more reluctant to spend their bitcoins.

I think the administration should care about how much trading goes on around the forum. I believe it is an indicator of the forum's influence, and an indicator of how many 'real' people are using bitcoin because of the forum.


It's a discussion forum primarily not a marketplace, but either way there's nothing the forum can do about it or promote it. What would you suggest? Offer to cover escrow fees or offer free shipping or something? There's nothing you can do if people don't want to trade here and the forum shouldn't get involved in that just like it doesn't get involved with many other things like scams and such. It's a niche market and always will be for numerous reasons.

Another reason is that forum trust has been diluted to a great extent. Previously, hero members could get no collateral loans easily, but now, even the highest ranking accounts will struggle to get any sizable loan without collateral. Perhaps lenders have matured and tightened their lending standards, but I think the abundance of high-ranking but not necessarily reputable users is to blame as well.

There should be another rank as many people got to Hero before the merit change. The new rank should require a large amount of merit to distinguish it from others and so it's hard to achieve, or maybe just make Legendary require it and fix the activity to 780.
697  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sportsbet.io's English Premier League Football Pool Discussion Thread on: February 03, 2021, 01:41:05 PM
manunited outclassed southampton 9-0 in the end Shocked Shocked
there were 2 red cards for fc southampton (2 min. Jankewitz and 86 min. Bednarek)
I haven't watched game, but I read that there was contraversial offside:
https://mobile.twitter.com/jackkenmare_/status/1356717649179398147?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1356717649179398147%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fd-32936079703902968562.ampproject.net%2F2101211748002%2Fframe.html
They must be kidding... VAR is f*cking joke in EPL.
I'm not against VAR, but such offsides is just ridiculous.

Didn't watch any of the games but just watched the highlights. They didn't show the offside in the Man U game for some reason but if the VAR had that angle/image and still gave it it's a joke but it's not like we didn't know that already. Thought the second red was harsh as well. Didn't look intentional.

The David Luiz sending off in the Arsenal game seemed harsh also. Clearly accidental. VAR checked it apparently according to SofaScore but gave it anyway. I thought VAR was meant to be for these exact situations.



Everton should win today at Leeds


I'm not so sure after losing 2-0 at home to Newcastle last week. Leeds played well as well. Either a home win or maybe a draw for me but I wouldn't back Everton especially away.

Can my boys LFC make it 3 PL wins in a row? I’d like to hope so, although we have struggled against some of the lesser teams in recent times. Brighton are coming off the back of a great win against Brighton too. We should win but you never know.

I don't think they'll have any trouble with Brighton despite them beating Spurs last week.
698  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The UFC Info and Prediction Thread on: February 02, 2021, 01:59:04 PM
Yeah, I don't think Conor will never be truly "done", however his flamboyant attitude does seem to have been watered down a little since his previous fights, and to be honest I quite like  that side of him. However, the reason Conor brings in so many PPVs, and fans from all walks of life is maingly due to his attitude to other fighters, but not only that he's been known to deliver on the night also. Casual fans, and dedicated ones will often quote his "who the fook is this guy" line. When you think of Conor you think of trash talking, for example his fight between him, and mayweather the press conference before that was comedy gold. Now, Conor only really showed respect to Poirier, but are we going to see Conor continue along that path, or will he revert to his usual tactics, and put on a show? He's a fantastic fighter, and I love his style. I'm actually a big fan of him, but I have questions of whether he wants to be there fighting, and I know that he's stated that he's looking to fight multiple times in the UFC this year, but I'm not sure if there's any weight behind that.

I do think he needs to fight a tough opponent next though, just because I'd like him to prove the doubters wrong, and partially prove me wrong too. I want to see Conor at his best, because I don't think anyone can argue otherwise, he's very exciting to watch, but also does a lot of good for mixed martial arts.

In that weight class, there's several tough fighters, and the reason why I think its important for him to go for a tough fight, is you'll quickly get left behind in the division otherwise, because its absolutely rammed full of talent.

That's not to say Conor will disappear, but as a fan of Conor I want to see him wanting to prove everyone wrong, and becoming the best fighter he can be, because that's when us fans will be in for a treat.


All fighters are done at some point but I think Connor has a lot left in him, but with every fight he loses his stock goes down and probably along with his hunger for the game and when your heart's not in it any more you rarely win fights. If he just gets battered in all his next matches it'll be pretty embarrassing and he'll have to walk away at some point. His sponsorship deals rely on him to keep fighting though as nobody is going to keep offering him big bucks if he's not active or in the public eye so he needs to get back on track really for multiple reasons. His other business interests rely on it as well. Nobody is buying Proper 12 whisky because they think it's better than all the rest; they're buying it because it's Connor's and the stock in that brand will decrease drastically if he walks away. Connor was one of those fighters that got casuals attention because he's entertaining in and out of the cage and had lots of witty and quotable lines. Up until his loss against Diaz he also looked unbeatable. Trash talking every fight is just going to get tiring and it has its place. He's probably not going to do it to fighters he respects but I'm sure we haven't seen the last of it especially if he fights someone he doesn't like like Khabib again. I suspect he'll probably reign the trash talking in a bit though as you have to grow up at some point.
699  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sportsbet.io's English Premier League Football Pool Discussion Thread on: February 02, 2021, 11:07:56 AM
Don't forget the new round starts today. Nearly half of people haven't done their scores yet.

Oh, I still think we should put an asterisk on Tokeweed's score with a note at the bottom since it was practically a double round and takes away from moles impressive round:
Don't really agree with this. While I agree that it is not fair that Toke made a result with bigger pool of games if you take away some points from him, then you should also add some points to the yellow cap winners in weeks were we did not have full 10 games. That is only fair solution but it will be very hard to calculate.

You should check which game got removed from which week and than check the prediction of the yellow cap winner for that week and add his points after game gets played in double week. Basically eliminate double and "short" weeks by calculation yellow caps as if there was no delays. And if you do that the person who got the yellow cap in some previous weeks could actually not be the yellow cap winner anymore.

As I said too much work, and I would just go by Superbru results and award Tokeweed if nobody manages to beat him. Nobody tied our hands in double week, we should have done better. Either way no money in my pocket since I believe I did not get a single yellow cap in 3 years I am playing this predictor Smiley

A round consists of ten games. Or should do. Any more shouldn't be included. At best they should probably put the rescheduled games in a separate round. Nobody is taking points away from toke nor am I going to mess about adding them on to the previous rounds as that is just ludicrously silly and obviously isn't feasible, but it should be noted that toke's winning round was literally a round and half hence the abnormally high score.

~snip
As I said too much work, and I would just go by Superbru results and award Tokeweed if nobody manages to beat him. Nobody tied our hands in double week, we should have done better. Either way no money in my pocket since I believe I did not get a single yellow cap in 3 years I am playing this predictor Smiley

agree on this one, it is supported by Superbru, and we should follow their rules regarding weeks for yellow cap
if we do not follow this, then whole competition is not as per Superbru rules

nevertheless, it is a good performance to have 19 in regular round, but we all could done better in a round with 15 matches, and it is not impossible to have 25, actually in Calcio pool there was 25 in a regular round
with all said, it is a bit sad to have just one round to shine for the whole season, but it is a Superbru pool rules

Who said we're playing by Superbru's rules? They're just a site we use to keep a tally. They don't issue payments or free bets. Sportsbet has been issuing free bets to all the yellow cappers even when tied even though superbru orders them via their own system. I just won't award anything for the highest scorer if it's going to cause issues and since that was the plan anyway.
700  Other / Meta / Re: AI writing messages on Bitcointalk.org on: February 02, 2021, 11:01:27 AM
Once again another reason for signature vacation time.

Every week  flip a coin and either shut signatures off or turn them back on.

Makes bots and ai have less reason to post if there are no signature revenues.


Unfortunately our forum is existing for the wrong reasons.  

Signature revenue is a shitty reason to exist.
Spam is worse.
Scammers are the worst.
Trolling fit in there somewhere but not as bad as a scammer.


At loyce how about scraping a signature campaign thread and estimate what it pays each week.

I often complain about signatures and have asked for signature vacation time.
So here is another reason to try it out.


With any measures you employ to stop spam you need to make sure it's not effecting real or genuine users or effects them as little as possible. If you turned signatures on and off again then all this will lead to is the bots having a vacation during that time whilst genuine users are penalised during it. Many people use their signature for different things other than signature campaigns like you do, but I don't think genuine users should be penalised because of potential bad actors. These restrictions won't even be a inconvenience to bots and they'll just reconfigure to work with it and then fire back up when they can monetise it. I think this now more than ever needs to lead to urging campaign managers to do their job properly. If campaign managers thoroughly vetted their participants and only accepted quality posters then there wouldn't be a problem with spam or shitposting and bots probably wouldn't even get on the campaigns in the first place. I've long said signature campaigns could help to actually improve the forum but only if they're run by managers that do their job properly.
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