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i really hope Altsecure wakes up soon, see's how he makes cheplen sick, and put's him in his place, but ofc cheplin will mysteriously disappear when ALT confronts him.
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Seems like indeed there is a blockchain connection. At least in this state. Yes REV2 or the next patch will fix this but the dev made a test because he was sure there is no link. I think he should swallow his ego, pay the bounty and fix the problem. I'm not sure how will he fix this before REV2 without locking the XNODE coins. An address can be deleted from the wallet but it will still be used as a reference for the next transaction.
Thanks to chaeplin and the rest for the work and expertise. He helped this coin more than the defensive speculators in this thread using "arguments" like "but DRK is not anon either..." or "this is only REV1".
@short term speculators in this thread: don't worry, this bug won't affect the price as the whales control the market. It will only make this coin stronger.
there may be a problem, and it's small, but you must be delusional if you think cheplin is trying to help us, he is doing his best to find flaws in XC not so we can improve it, but to hurt it, because he is invested in DRK, he may of identified important flaws, even though this is rev 1 and the Dev said from the get go rev 1 would not be 100% anon, but this is not because he has a kind heart and wants to help us, the suggestion of this makes me roll my eyes....rev 2 it will be fixed, and all the drk boys will have to actually work harder on there product more instead of slapping it together calling them selves king,and slandering any competition that comes along, i'm not concerned still only a month old and we are neck to neck with drk that is 6 months old, so cheplin and all your sad little friends, best think of a better attack plan, concentrate on improving your own product because frankly it's a piece of shit that doesn't work, and Evan just used to get rich off, and soon after rev 2 and you can't trace the transactions anymore, you will have nothing but slanderous tweets to save your sorry excuse for cryto innovation, i would just dump and buy XC because seriously nothing can save DRK. So besides "but DARK..." and "this is only REV1" "arguments"(that you used again) you brought a 3rd great "argument" : "the guy has a DARK motive and hes not trying to help". Why the hell does that matter? Facts are facts. The guy spent his time proving a bug while you smucks were crying "FUD !". He didn't have to do this, or he could have waited to maybe damage the coin later, he didn't do it for the bounty and I thank him for his contribution. As suspected I didn't see any price drop. Yes there was FUD in the beginning but all I have seen on this thread lately are defensive speculators. Also I never owned DRK and XC is my main investment. In which I truly believe. he didn't prove shit, and he can't wait to damage the coin latter because in rev 2 it will no longer be an issue, and you can say i am repeating the argument over again, but there is nothing more to the argument, and your repeating the same stuff to, what he brought to light is not an issue, were not worried, if you are, dump, and i will buy them, but he should really be working on drk is all im saying he considers himself one of the drk dev team, and it doesn't even work? so why is he here trying to help us fix our nonexistent problem, when the coin he is supposed to be working on has been out 5x longer and works even less, if he can find the addresses in rev 2 we have a problem, until then he should fix his own teams mess. |
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Seems like indeed there is a blockchain connection. At least in this state. Yes REV2 or the next patch will fix this but the dev made a test because he was sure there is no link. I think he should swallow his ego, pay the bounty and fix the problem. I'm not sure how will he fix this before REV2 without locking the XNODE coins. An address can be deleted from the wallet but it will still be used as a reference for the next transaction.
Thanks to chaeplin and the rest for the work and expertise. He helped this coin more than the defensive speculators in this thread using "arguments" like "but DRK is not anon either..." or "this is only REV1".
@short term speculators in this thread: don't worry, this bug won't affect the price as the whales control the market. It will only make this coin stronger.
there may be a problem, and it's small, but you must be delusional if you think cheplin is trying to help us, he is doing his best to find flaws in XC not so we can improve it, but to hurt it, because he is invested in DRK, he may of identified important flaws, even though this is rev 1 and the Dev said from the get go rev 1 would not be 100% anon, but this is not because he has a kind heart and wants to help us, the suggestion of this makes me roll my eyes....rev 2 it will be fixed, and all the drk boys will have to actually work harder on there product more instead of slapping it together calling them selves king,and slandering any competition that comes along, i'm not concerned still only a month old and we are neck to neck with drk that is 6 months old, so cheplin and all your sad little friends, best think of a better attack plan, concentrate on improving your own product because frankly it's a piece of shit that doesn't work, and Evan just used to get rich off, and soon after rev 2 and you can't trace the transactions anymore, you will have nothing but slanderous tweets to save your sorry excuse for cryto innovation, i would just dump and buy XC because seriously nothing can save DRK. |
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something wrong with XC?
no nothing wrong, possibly something wrong with your eyes though cause you can't seam to read, answering questions for your self is so much rewarding then asking others to do the work for you, not trying to be mean but you only have to read the last 2 pages to see what's going on. |
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What about this? Ref: Hash7337f03cc1d0b726d1fb8b0b9e66bc6cc796853379b75d7dd193e6d5e9c33c4f
Appeared inX11Coin 28533 (2014-06-11 13:25:09)
Number of inputs2 (Jump to inputs)
Total in10
Number of outputs1 (Jump to outputs)
Total out9.99999
Size345 bytes
Fee0.00001
Raw transaction
Inputs
Index Previous output Amount From address ScriptSig
0 235b7cba7a...:1 8.329413 XNECF1CtdkF2DjuVxcCr8VJEdKiH9ByDMb 73:3046...e501 33:03f5...9f33
1 2b46b1f30d...:1 1.670587 XNECF1CtdkF2DjuVxcCr8VJEdKiH9ByDMb 72:3045...3501 33:03f5...9f33
Outputs
Index Redeemed at input Amount To address ScriptPubKey
0 Not yet redeemed 9.99999 XNLdJtLQKnmi7PSUknoPoPRDjnmJnb3y8D DUP HASH160 20:788b...2bb6 EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG
 * block : 28533 * from mixer XNECF1CtdkF2DjuVxcCr8VJEdKiH9ByDMb to XNLdJtLQKnmi7PSUknoPoPRDjnmJnb3y8D : 9.99999 * Search through pattern user@sv2:~/x11coin> ./run.py 28500 28590
* ====> Working block height 28527 has 8 tx
* ====> Searchng XTiH1AgxVoFYLuLamAzRLGbvoAYyxhZJV1
tx: 2 percent 94 value 0.006
*===> block reached
* ====> Working block height 28527 has 8 tx
* ====> Searchng XNECF1CtdkF2DjuVxcCr8VJEdKiH9ByDMb
tx: 2 percent 94 value 0.006
*===> block reached
* ====> Working block height 28531 has 4 tx
* ====> Searchng XQdBjeQtH1JGrkd2MWcXbtsRVeKHWZbnqa
tx: 2 percent 100 value 10.0
*===> block reached
*===> Searchng 28533 : diff : 2
*===> XNLdJtLQKnmi7PSUknoPoPRDjnmJnb3y8D 9.99999 link is : XQdBjeQtH1JGrkd2MWcXbtsRVeKHWZbnqa <----> XNECF1CtdkF2DjuVxcCr8VJEdKiH9ByDMb
* ====> Working block height 28587 has 5 tx
* ====> Searchng XUZvnU6MrxH49AVaSKwsXJMsyPoicrP6g2
tx: 2 percent 100 value 0.15
*===> block reached
*===> Searchng 28590 : diff : 3
*===> XE3dFcdQ6aH81J6viKraZwauMk9zcP4Ehz 0.14999 link is : XUZvnU6MrxH49AVaSKwsXJMsyPoicrP6g2 <----> XMDDFuadQFGas9Zn8nTMVFFGz9hUc7Jteo
Possible candidate in 28531 Hash7315a0968d1aa71e01031583446625bde7189bee1642d3c85737a537d7480778
Previous Blockc2ef588b1680c5498151345eacc4a3c363d77d802aff45674a597c3bdbfac00f
Next Block7e5eeaeecda5745b32be824e5da54a9a95b5b350126a216bf5499c0f6e5fa2c9
Height28531
Version4
Transaction Merkle Roote9c293aa46b5f2bc684349e6b4accbbb196f36b04742e26d2df53811a2a9fdfd
Time1402492966 (2014-06-11 13:22:46)
Difficulty0.000 (Bits: 1e047c41)
Cumulative Difficulty11 973 042.889
Nonce0
Transactions4
Value out2070.657277
Transaction Fees-1.62137
Average Coin Age9.27782 days
Coin-days Destroyed17767.243184
Cumulative Coin-days Destroyed62.9868%
Transactions
Transaction Fee Size (kB) From (amount) To (amount)
c6d0da399b... 0 0.077 Generation: 1.62137 + -1.62137 total fees Unknown: 0
dcd8718986... -1.62139 0.258 XXrbb5c4JFJTTXwSPJeVXpT1g6Htd4isH6: 1993.671236
Unknown: 0
XXrbb5c4JFJTTXwSPJeVXpT1g6Htd4isH6: 997.64
XXrbb5c4JFJTTXwSPJeVXpT1g6Htd4isH6: 997.652626
2c3d8fcfa4... 0.00001 0.229 XLS1oGFeJQ7qjhcVYYg6cXaQ5vfGNBA72R: 40.99999
XGn7mdvRKy6LYYdejMYsxx8mCocdyuSXmf: 34.364681
XQdBjeQtH1JGrkd2MWcXbtsRVeKHWZbnqa: 6.635299
633fe22002... 0.00001 0.23 XGn7mdvRKy6LYYdejMYsxx8mCocdyuSXmf: 34.364681
XZ2zsBE5oqTciM5bkWtPajqqjQKHNv8Cip: 30.99997
XQdBjeQtH1JGrkd2MWcXbtsRVeKHWZbnqa: 3.364701
* multiple tx pattern to same destination  * address never used before 28531 * input value matched.  from address XLS1oGFeJQ7qjhcVYYg6cXaQ5vfGNBA72R to mixer XQdBjeQtH1JGrkd2MWcXbtsRVeKHWZbnqa. * coin flow : BLOCK 28531 from address XLS1oGFeJQ7qjhcVYYg6cXaQ5vfGNBA72R to mixer XQdBjeQtH1JGrkd2MWcXbtsRVeKHWZbnqa --> BLOCK 28533 * from mixer XNECF1CtdkF2DjuVxcCr8VJEdKiH9ByDMb to XNLdJtLQKnmi7PSUknoPoPRDjnmJnb3y8D : SENDER : XLS1oGFeJQ7qjhcVYYg6cXaQ5vfGNBA72R : MIXER INPUT : XQdBjeQtH1JGrkd2MWcXbtsRVeKHWZbnqa / never used before : MIXER OUTPUT : XNECF1CtdkF2DjuVxcCr8VJEdKiH9ByDMb : PAYEE : XNLdJtLQKnmi7PSUknoPoPRDjnmJnb3y8D If outputs of address XQdBjeQtH1JGrkd2MWcXbtsRVeKHWZbnqa and XNECF1CtdkF2DjuVxcCr8VJEdKiH9ByDMb are spent as an input for a transaction, Mixer identified. Link from wallet B to wallet C is identified As XQdBjeQtH1JGrkd2MWcXbtsRVeKHWZbnqa is nerver used before, check XQdBjeQtH1JGrkd2MWcXbtsRVeKHWZbnqa's tx. http://cryptexplorer.com/address/XQdBjeQtH1JGrkd2MWcXbtsRVeKHWZbnqa
Transaction Block Approx. Time Amount Balance Currency
2c3d8fcfa4... 28531 2014-06-11 13:22:46 6.635299 6.635299 XC
633fe22002... 28531 2014-06-11 13:22:46 3.364701 10 XC
0d227a1fcf... 28540 2014-06-11 13:39:49 0.003 10.003 XC
07957c70d0... 28555 2014-06-11 14:03:57 0.001 10.004 XC
dd438f2fbd... 28645 2014-06-11 17:06:04 (0.003) 10.001 XC
fe5ad7f573... 28645 2014-06-11 17:06:04 (0.001) 10 XC
36e6e4f1bb... 28646 2014-06-11 17:08:27 (3.364701) 6.635299 XC
d24770a89a... 28653 2014-06-11 17:20:52 (6.635299) 0 XC
8e708043fa... 28847 2014-06-11 22:52:01 0.0001 0.0001 XC
Block 28645 has hard link. http://cryptexplorer.com/block/4255ac4c5e93fa1769f58312d76338779229424538357dc4cf00a07fc1aafb74 * Hard Link is real. Ask him if he will be to identify this 1. When he is not GIVEN all the needed info And 2. When there is more than 1 xnode transaction occurring in the same block...... what if all transactions were handled xnode transactions You guys should look at this seriously. I think it can be fixed relatively easily - but if it's ignored it could be a problem for you later. Chaeplin spent a bunch of time working through every detail to get you a step by step description of the issue. And no one is responding seriously, no one has given a counter analysis - that is not a good sign for investors. Can someone show where chaeplin's analysis is flawed? No one has directly responded at any point. Quote a post - draw lines...whatever you need to do. I came to the same conclusion as him after reviewing a series of transactions yesterday - but it was annoying and took me a long time. If this isn't an issue - can someone just point out where? Or create a counter-example? If you want to be taken seriously - I'm pretty sure it's important and shouldn't be brushed off like it's nothing. I don't know how you can call it FUD and ignore it......he walked you through the problem. If you don't understand it...fine - let someone who does argue a counter-analysis. Don't just call it FUD because you don't understand what is going on. I completely agree with you. Chaeplin has demonstrated a logical flow of the transaction and this needs to be addressed. Simply saying FUD is no counter argument. Either agree that the current system is flawed and will be fixed or prove that chaeplin is wrong. chaeplin is the only one providing quality QA for this coin. You need these people to find the problems so they can be fixed. this is rev 1 and it works better then drk your on rev 2 maybe you should be more concerned about your DRK investment then our XC investment..just saying...oh and XC is one month old, how old's DRK again, if XC can do this in one month imagine what 6 months down the track it will look like, i relies your worried about us overtaking dark, you should be... |
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doesn't matter what coin it is, if you plan on trading and buy the greed and sell the fear you will lose every time. You are trading backwards.
I think you need to learn how work the markets and how a coin can become better. If i sold all my XC it's because i think finally XC have no futur, not because i'm scared about price. (no futur because of pump & dump) Don't blame XC and the community for your Parkinson Hands haha. Learn to chill the fuck out when you day trade.
Daytrade is stupid. XC is going to die because you support the daytrade. What i said? that pump & dump (so daytrade) is stupid. And i was in your community, but no more since 10minuts ago. I don't invest in the luck, but in the trust. ok no need to post any more, no one really cares if you lost faith and sold out, that's ur decision your a big boy, good luck with your future trading. |
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Why this is happening to me again ?
I sold most my coins at 93k, then this thing went crazy yesterday and people all saying buy it back before it's too late. It's going to be 200k in a few days.
So I bought it all back at 140-150k, as soon as I bought it. People start dumping and nobody is buying more.....
Now it's back 110k ish....
FML..........
playing the market is pure luck...just don't bother doing it..you might win sometimes but mostly u will lose, just hold and buy other alts cheap and sell them as soon as your up, to get more XC and hold what u already have as precious. just my opinion. |
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Thanks Dadon. I really don't mean to ruffle feathers but to give us / the coin a good opportunity.
That may be the best approach to take.
no problem, look forward to seeing the product and will consider donating once it approved by the dev, and he holds the address to the bounty. |
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It's 10K and the product is real. 10K (in XC! not USD) is not a huge load of money for a dev with a working product.
That said, I'm starting to question why we'd go to the effort when comments like this are being made.
i think it's best to pm the dev with your idea, i also think it would be best for the dev to hold the bounty address until it is reached, if you are sincere thank you for your help, there are a lot of scammers on this forum and in the crytpo world i'm sure you understand peoples cation, i think your idea is great, but it has to be discussed with the dev. |
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WHAT SCAM???
1- Nobody EVER asked me for any BTC back!! NOT EVEN ONCE!
I'm sure the team did. And even if they didn't, you were holding the IPO money IN TRUST, it was not yours to spend at will. Any half-honest person would have returned of the IPO money in full. 2- I am still using the funds to promote DCM via flying me around the world to talk to people at bitcoin conferences and anywhere else I can tell people about DCM
Yet we have this choice quote from you: I would also like to announce that I have spent the full 22 btc I have received on a marketing campaign.
That should start in a few days or so.
So on June 8th you announced that you have spent the full 22btc, yet now you will be using it travel. You're just a scammer and a bad human being; best thing that the team could have done is dump your sorry ass as soon as possible. I have put a friend who is into computer forensics on your trail ... i will make it easy for your friend check his mothers basement, he lives there. |
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I hope the coin crosses the IPO price again
I am 100% certain it will. The question of course is when exactly that will be, but it will happen in the not-so-distant future. Anybody who bought over the last few days will have some extra-nice returns. Wanna bet that it never settles over 10K again? Also, why do you guys think it would be good to get on poloniex? You cant even support any volume on the one exchange your on even though that exchange sees over 2000 btc a day. You guys are missing the big picture.. you need investors who will keep the price at a certain point.. oh waitttt.. you had that when you had me on the team.. Now I'm gone and all of my investors just made a nice score with cloak. 18K sat -40K sat in one day.  photos or your poor and live with you mother. |
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yeah ur right...just so sick of some ppl on this forum, it has the highest concentration of assholes i have ever witnessed, lots of nice ppl here 2, but yeah...it's getting old
It does actually have the highest concentration I've run across too. I'm sure plenty of forums out there have more, but they aren't ones I've ever frequented. When I first started here, I wondered where was forum moderation, and if I had stumbled into a forum with some of the most immoral + immature people in the world. I think part of the problem is that this forum has a high preponderance of young guys who became rich based on pure luck. Add in a bit of alpha male mentality + stockbroker personalities + flat out thieves. And then no forum moderation, and where trolling/fud can be profitable if done correctly, and we get what we have here. It's been described as a cesspool, and quite often it's correct in more ways than one. yes i agree completely, i try to ignore it but it's hard, i'm sure u know lol, anyway i like this coin and i think it has a bright future, the brighter it gets the more FUD we will see, so i guess we better get used to it  |
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you said smart ppl got out early but u were left with 40k, you couldn't sell, now you are asking if anyone wants to buy 100k, if you were as rich as you claim, you wouldn't even be worried about selling this, you would just stick them in a wallet and forget about them, i call bullshit on almost every single thing u have claimed, i think you have fuck all money, because ppl with shitloads of money, don't carry on like you do, you say u have all the cars u want..i bet there real nice since your filthy rich, if u have what u claim prove it, take a picture of you in front of your cars holding up a piece of paper with ur user name on it, and post it here for all to see, would take 2 min and prove me wrong, but you wont do it, because your full of shit, any one with as much cash as u don't rip off 20btc, i think you still live in your mothers basement, but you could take the photo, and shut me up..bet u don't
It's pointless to argue with a troll in such a manner. All you need to know about him is: When you become rich you'll fuck with people because you can.. Its too fun not to. Rich or poor, it doesn't matter. Bob is what his signature claims he is. Better to talk about the coin than a person trolling. At least it may be a more interesting conversation that way. yeah ur right...just so sick of some ppl on this forum, it has the highest concentration of assholes i have ever witnessed, lots of nice ppl here 2, but yeah...it's getting old |
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The thing is we dont care.. if you bought your first btc and they were less then 15 bucks, you wouldn't care either. Now its all about the fun and the game!
Strange concept to me, but I guess to each their own. If I hit it big with btc early on and had so much money, I'd think I could find much better ways to spend my time than trolling on a forum. I mean, there must be many other fun things to do. Again, maybe that's just me. Well, like you said "to each their own" I have traveled the world, put away for retirement, purchased property, I have all the cars I want and shopping bores me. My GF is a FT student so I have a fair share of time on my hands.. When you become rich you'll fuck with people because you can.. Its too fun not to. You're poor as fuck, you leak frustration... You panic like a retard because you bought DCM in with the BTC from the IPO, and now, you are angry cause you're out of the team, desperately trying to bake this coin look bad. I see lots of people like you... "look at me, I have so much money, I travel the world..." You're a pest dude, stealing 22 BTC from an IPO...you're poor as fuck believe me...poor in any way possible, intelligence, money, character...I bet you even have an ugly fat wife...because you're frustration on this forum is out of the charts... So stop dreaming with your eyes wide opened... The truth is too clear...you're a sad sad person, who never achieved something in his life, and is craving for attention on the internet I mean...how low you must be to threaten somebody on the internet to pay you BTC... Yeah.. ok... I have btc so old its collecting dust. I'm talking 50 BTC blocks still in tact in my wallets. Dont be greedy and maybe you'll have some money too one day! you said smart ppl got out early but u were left with 40k, you couldn't sell, now you are asking if anyone wants to buy 100k, if you were as rich as you claim, you wouldn't even be worried about selling this, you would just stick them in a wallet and forget about them, i call bullshit on almost every single thing u have claimed, i think you have fuck all money, because ppl with shitloads of money, don't carry on like you do, you say u have all the cars u want..i bet there real nice since your filthy rich, if u have what u claim prove it, take a picture of you in front of your cars holding up a piece of paper with ur user name on it, and post it here for all to see, would take 2 min and prove me wrong, but you wont do it, because your full of shit, any one with as much cash as u don't rip off 20btc, i think you still live in your mothers basement, but you could take the photo, and shut me up..bet u don't |
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there's only 1.2 million coins at the moment yeah 2k is cheap but so is 10k..just go buy some, this could easy reach a million sat if all works out, seriously if 10k isn't cheap enough for you, your a bit greedy
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Okay guys, I am back, I have gone all in on XC once again. I now own 1156 XC. These prices are just pathetic, XC is very undervalued, its time to change that. The prices will be a lot higher in the near future.
never go all in... Thats how you look at it, unfortunatly chances are that I know perfectly well what I am doing, so please don't start being the wise guy. LOL? Do as you wish, but everytime you risk everything there is a chance that you lose everything. It's like in poker, no matter how good you are, if you bet everything you will eventually lose everything. Risk management is of utter importance. im still making money of my initial investment of $300 in to quark, i have gone on 2 holidays, paid all my credit cards off and my car, hold numerous alt coins including over 50k of XC, a decent amount of btc that i sit on a don't touch, and all off $300 i have nothing to lose, what so ever and everything to gain, and i am more then confident in XC, if my credit rating from the past wasn't so bad, i would take a loan out to buy XC, but it's 2 much of a hastle,but if i did i would be not worried about not being able to pay it off for one minute, if DRK can hit 10 XC can hit a lot more |
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Okay guys, I am back, I have gone all in on XC once again. I now own 1156 XC. These prices are just pathetic, XC is very undervalued, its time to change that. The prices will be a lot higher in the near future.
never go all in... would agree normally, but this is different, buy as much as u can, i have contemplated taking a loan out to buy XC..but to much of a hassle. |
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Propulsion is a confirmed troll and one of DRK's biggest supporters. Ask yourself this, why do the DRK trolls come into this topic whenever the price starts moving upwards? I know why. Fear  Oh god. Look I've already disclosed publicly that I'm interested in darkcoin. That does not mean that I am trolling. Every time I've entered this thread, it's been to ask questions on the current development model. Keeping yourself ignorant to other currencies is asinine at best. Instead of calling me a troll and spreading FUD, lets look at the question and have a civil conversation about it. Seriously, I'm not here to start mudslinging. Anytime you go in the darkcoin thread with technical questions they do get answered. Let's try to achieve the same in this one. it was answered, no need to ask anymore. |
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Why do people who buy a coin call themselves "investors"?
i don't know why, because there not investors, there speculators. I think because investors acting like speculators and speculators acting like investors. well altsecure invested his money into making XC, and we all speculate that his product will make money, is the way i look at it. but i see what u saying |
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Why do people who buy a coin call themselves "investors"?
i don't know why, because there not investors, there speculators. |
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