I'm still not sure which team to support. "big blockers" or "small blockers".
Still waiting on the team mascots to decide which is better.
What I don't understand is: who chooses? I mean, I could have my opinion (I don't cause I'm not technical enough to understand everything) but even if I had, what influence would that have? Who decides in the end? People who run nodes decide which one they are running. If everyone stop using bitcoin core, bitcoin core is dead. Have a look to the node list to know what software is used : https://bitnodes.21.co/nodes/Also look here: http://xtnodes.com/ (includes stats about bitcoin unlimited (see http://bitcoinunlimited.info)) |
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dem ist eigentlich nichts hinzuzufügen.
Doch: Taten  Was ich mache (nicht viel, aber immerhin): meine Node auf Bitcoin Unlimited umbauen (schon getan) und vor allem: weiterdiskutieren (auch wenn ich manchmal keinen Bock mehr hab) und nicht aus Angst oder Faulheit klein beigeben oder die Fresse halten, r/btc beleben und r/bitcoin links liegen lassen. Ach und: hey, wie wär's mit einem unzensierten Pendant zu diesem Thread auf bitco.in? https://bitco.in/forum/threads/der-aktuelle-kursverlauf-und-allgemeine-diskussion-rund-um-krypto.698/ |
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Die Verbandelung einiger Core devs mit dem Lightning Zeugs macht mir da schon ein bisschen Sorgen...
Mir nicht. Ich kenne derzeit keine bessere und vor allem umsetzbare Lösung für Off-Chain Transactions. Damit lassen sich einige Zahlungsdiensleistungsangebote umsetzen ohne dabei einem Dritten oder dem Geschäftspartner die Kontrolle über das Geld zu überlassen. Mir persönlich macht nicht die Lösung an sich Sorgen, sondern auf welche Art sie vorbereitet (und uns als alternativlos aufgezwungen) wird (teifgreifende Änderungen (nötig oder wünschenswert für LN) werden teilweise ohne Konsens und ohne angemessen breite Diskussion in Bitcoin Core eingebaut, zum Beispiel: CHECKLOCKTIMEVERIFY (makes later merge of relative locking easier), SEGWIT (fixes malleability), ausserdem sollen Dinge in Core eingebaut werden keiner möchte, die aber den Wert von LN erhöhen würden, namentlich FRBF (full replace by fee), man könnte es auch "legal double spend" oder "anti-0-conf" nennen, von der Einführung eines neuen Ökonmischen Modells (künstliche Verknappung der Transaktionskapazität) mal ganz zu schweigen) und daß das Lightning Network direkt in den Core client eingebaut werden soll. Es ist für mich keine Bitcoin scaling Lösung, es ist ein "2nd tier" Transaktionssystem, welches auf Bitcoin oben drauf gebaut wird. Kann man machen, muss man aber die Leute nicht zu zwingen. Es ist völlig anders als Bitcoin selbst. Die OSI Layer im networking stack sind ja auch sauber getrennt, so sollte das auch bei Bitcoin sein. Des weiteren ist der Interessenskonflikt der "Core devs" und anderer "Infrastrukturbetreiter" (deren Namen ich aus Angst vor Zensur hier nicht nennen will) extrem bedenklich. Es geht schon längst nicht mehr um die Blockgröße, sondern es geht darum, wie Bitcoin (die Community, die Firmen, Miner, etc) sich jetzt verhalten. Man könnte was derzeit passiert als Attacke sehen (ich tue das). Werden wir sie abwehren und zu einer vernünftig Einigung finden? Oder werden wir die Blockstream-Pille schlucken? Was machen wir dann wenn Microsoft blockstream kauft? (Am meisten gehen mir derzeit übrigens die Miner auf den Sack. Diese kurzsichtigen Hosenscheisser und Jammerlappen haben alle Macht und schreien bei Vater Staat den Core-Devs nach Führung ("sagt uns was wir tun sollen, wir übernehmen die Default Config von Bitcoin Core"! Haben also die Macht aber geben sie ab. So wie manche Beamte: bloss keine Verantwortung übernehmen. Ist aber trotzdem so, sorry. Ihr minet die Blöcke.)EDIT: kleinere Änderungen, Verdeutlichungen |
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someone should post to r/btc
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Civil engineer: Hey, Boss. Traffic on the bridge is increasing by 50% per month. Shouldn't we widen it?
Bureaucrat: Ha! That bridge has excess capacity. If traffic gets too high, we'll just increase the tolls. Most of those schmucks don't really need to go anywhere anyway.
Civil engineer: Do we know that for sure? What if there is an evacuation or something?
Bureaucrat: That bridge was intentionally designed with low capacity to prevent invasions! Widening it would be a dangerous departure from historic bridge operations.
Civil Engineer: Aren't bridges supposed to be used to facilitate travel?
Bureaucrat: Yes, but only the right sort of travel. That's for me to decide! If traffic gets too heavy, and tolls get too expensive, the people can use buses. Too many single passenger cars anyway.
Civil engineer: Do you own a bus company?
Bureaucrat: Purely coincidental! I'm just guarding against bridgebuilder centralization.
Civil engineer: I see. No conflict of interest there. What's the name of your company anyway, Busstream?
Bureaucrat: BridgestreamTM, Smartass.
damn that's good. Where's the "give gold" button? |
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I did not catch sleep so I decided to think about Venus. As we know since we have been told and Wikipedia affirms, Venus is a spherical rock 12,000 km in diameter (about the size of the Earth) and it is between 38 and 261 million kilometers from the Earth.
It is easily visible by naked eye even in cities as its visual magnitude varies from -3.7 to -4.5, making it the 3rd most luminous object in the sky after Sun and Moon.
Now, the question is how can this be? Venus does not emit light of its own. Its relative size can be compared to having a marble of d=1cm in the distance of 32-216 m in the night. Venus' reflective index is 70% which is good, but it is still spherical, meaning that there are no reflective surfaces turned towards the observer (on Earth) and it anyway twists and turns, yet its visual magnitude stays roughly constant (which is also interesting given that the observed radiation from any other source decreases to 1:45 when it is taken 6.75 times further from the observer, yet Venus' brightness only changes about 1:2 in absolute terms).
The Sun in this example is actually no more than 90 m away (from Venus) so it can easily be introduced. It is 1.2 meter in diameter and for the sake of argument, you can select whatever luminosity and shield the "Sun" so that it cannot be seen from "Earth".
The next step is to give "Venus" the 70% reflection but you can do even better and give it 100% by wrapping it in tinfoil. Now you have the Earth, Venus and Sun in let's say triangular arrangement with Sun shining any desired amount of light towards Venus from 90 m distance and you watching it by naked eye from 200 m distance.
As you can see for yourself, no amount of "sunlight" is able to make the tinfoiled round marble Venus even visible from such a distance let alone so bright that it is surpassed only by Sun and Moon in brightness.
Surely there is an astronomer among you with an explanation to my riddle.
Not an expert at all here, just food for thought: - I would guess that the light density (something like "number of photons per angle of view and time") of venus is actually higher that that of the moon. The moon is just "brighter" because it's closer and thus perceived "bigger"). I may be wrong here, but maybe when people say "moon is brighter than venus", they talk about the aggregate amount of light received?
- Moon has reflectivity of 10%, venus of 70% (because of some kind of clouds in its athmosphere). You already mentioned the 70% value for venus.
- Why does received radiation decrease with distance? Seems to me the light coming from venus shouldn't be filtered by much at all on its way to our eye (except at the last couple of kilometers by earth's athmosphere).
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Blocks are consistently far from being full!
This is true. We still have some time. But the nature of exponential growth means we will hit it fairly soon and hard. It will also start to be an issue before 100%. I'm not sure what the exact level would be but I'm thinking around 85% It's already an issue. I'm finding myself telling newbies at Chaos Communication Congress about alternatives to Bitcoin because Bitcoin has "this problem". EDIT: And I can tell by their faces they are reducing their planned investment about 10-fold at that moment. |
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With elections next spring, do you think there is a way to make sure cryptos are discussed ?
Quite honestly I think, just as software developers and cryptologists aren't any better at central planning (or more resistant to corruption) than central bankers, the pirate party dudes may have fresh minds and lots of idealism, but will be subverted and assimilated and in the end be just the same as the politicians before them. I believe the people need to take matters into their own hands instead of "hoping for the next election". Crypto (-currency) will not magically solve all our problems, but it's a huge tool that will help us tremendously. Incidentally this is one of the reasons I think Auroracoin is such an important and interesting experiment: it's a test balloon. If this flies in Iceland, there is hope for the world. Of course I agree: it would be awesome if cryptos where a topic in the media before next elections in Iceland. |
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omg she starting to ask "where is this going"
WHAT DO I DO!?
You gotta stop shorting with too much of your BTC stash.. and just hodl LOL! she doesn't give a shit about my BTC Oh??? We are talking relationship issues? Don't all relationships involving bitcoiners end in disappearing Gfie? hey I want to ask a question, but I want it from you guys, whats the difference between things like the ledger cold wallet USB and regular USB's? Same difference as the one between a smartphone and a harddrive. Where do you guys keep your cold storage?
trezor |
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@e-coinomist: ja, da tut man sich schwer sich den Schwan konkret vorzustellen. Ist ja auch nicht sicher, daß einer kommt. Wichtig ist laut Taleb nur, daß die "Upside" unbegrenzt ist und der potentielle Verlust begrenzt. Ist also so eine Art Zockermentalität. Ist halt beim schwarzen Schwan so, daß hinterher jeder 'ne Erklärung dafür hat und es eigentlich "klar war", es aber vorher keiner vorhersagen konnte. Deine Ideen zu mehrdimensinalen Chains finde ich interessant. subchains gehen vielleicht in eine ähnliche Richtung, oder blockchain sharding. |
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Also, ich bin bei dem Halving Pump noch mit dabei.
Glaub nicht daß es diesen in der Form gibt wie du ihn dir vorstellst. Gab's letztes mal auch nicht. Erst als die ganzen Ungeduldigen weak hands ausgestiegen waren ging's ab. Ich vermute Bitcoin ist danach Unterwegs hinein in die Bedeutungslosigkeit.
http://bitcoinobituaries.com |
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so nun wartet ab was jetzt kommt, der umsatz ist schlecht, es wird gekauft, aber da unten ist nicht viel zu holen... der Tageschart ist im RSI noch unter 50 Punkte aber gleichmässig aufsteigend im Stundenchart, bedeutet es wurde die ganze zeit gekauft, der Tageschart hat viel luft nach oben... denkt euch euren teil
auch wenn ich davon fast nichts verstehe... habe auch einige bitcoins nachgekauft. mal sehen ob ich sie in den nächsten 5-6 tagen > 420€ los werde Warum so früh schon wieder loswerden? Die saftigsten Chancen liegen in den dicken schwarzen Schwänen. Jetzt nochmal dabei sein, vielleicht hängen wir ja bald mal wieder eine 0 hinten dran... Good Things come to those who wait. |
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Everyone starts selling at the bottom again
That doesn't make such a good bottom, then. |
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war total klar, dass es nochmal von 460 runter richtung 400 $ geht
echt ich mir nicht, warum? einige technische indikatoren die wir verfolgen hatten divergenzen gezeigt und du hast recht, bei der immer noch niedrigen market cap von btc gehen diese bewegungen sehr schnell und was passiert als nächstes? Ist das auch klar? ;-) |
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Adamastor, that sounds awesome. I have a question: what percentage of people at learning man do you expect to have smart phones?
Another question to the developers: I have this old Auroracoin Android wallet on my phone... Version 1.1.1 it says. Can I still use that? Is / will there be there an update?
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... there is no way to differentiate between "small legit transactions" and fee-paying spam if they pay the same fee
Can you articulate your definition of 'fee-paying spam'? |
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I am just posting this here because I like to make noise and let the uninformed think I am nuts  [...] Merry Christmas all!  not just the uninformed, I bet Should we worry in case we don't see you here before new years? merry christmas everyone! |
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Auroracoun is my favourite coun!
Mine too! And now it Can't be traded on that one exchange! Then just move over to bittrex. Forget cryptsy, if they're coming back, it's a miracle. |
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My understanding is most beta tester just don't sell what they bough. Was not the purpose of this phase. Hlynur (Diabotta) may answers better, but I think that the beta testing is mostly over - and now there is some preparation for the official opening. Maybe some extra teting needed ?
All good. Just observing. Seems not a lot of volume happening on beta server, yes. I don't expect the real exchange to have high volume in the beginning, either. I think of it as infrastructure that will be used when Icelanders (re)discover Auroracoin according to their need, not before. An exchange is not something valuable in itself (except hopefully for the operator, who seems to be doing an awesome job in this case, btw), but it's something necessary. |
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