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1481  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Coinbase CEO Brian Armstrong calls the industry to fork Bitcoin Core on: November 09, 2015, 09:27:26 AM
Unless a node is doing mining, why should it limit the block size? Block size is determined by what the majority of miners accept.  Other nodes are just slaves of the miners.

It is called validation because if some peer you are connected to you is going to start throwing huge blocks at you then they are chewing up your bandwidth with rubbish (same as sending you huge txs with no fees, etc.).

Full nodes will necessarily perform such validation in order to reduce potential DoS attacks (am surprised that you hadn't already realised this).

For SPV usage there is much less validation going on (which is why SPV mining is such a bad idea).
1482  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Time to stand up to the XT shills here! on: November 09, 2015, 04:42:38 AM
Unfortunately as is once again shown in this topic - the issue of block size is being thought of as the issue of XT (and that was actually the reason behind my creating this topic as opposed to creating a topic about block size).

Quite simply it is not as their are numerous other options for increasing block size that don't involve XT at all and XT includes numerous things that are not to do with block size increasing (some of which are quite contentious).

What XT really is - is just a way for Mike Hearn to "take control of the Bitcoin project" (and he has admitted as much).

So if you are a supporter of XT then you are "not a supporter of big blocks" (as you should support any of the BIPs that will increase the block size) - you are actually a supporter of Mike Hearn becoming effectively the CEO of Bitcoin (and this is the antithesis of what Satoshi had described in his paper).
1483  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: BTC sent to wrong address. on: November 08, 2015, 05:45:05 PM
So you really think it's possible I'll get at least part of my BTC back?

You can only try - and assuming you can prove your side of the story apply public pressure (like via this forum) to the entity in question.
1484  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Time to stand up to the XT shills here! on: November 08, 2015, 05:41:14 PM
How can a fucking miner sell his prize if all the exchange aren't using his money!?

He can't. It's the same as simple being dishonest as a miner, making false blocks or else, the network will just ignore his blocks.

As the major Chinese exchanges have all stated that they do not support the BIP then your statement about "all the exchanges" is obviously rubbish (there is no such agreement between all the exchanges).

There is only *one* main company (which isn't even an exchange) that is pushing this XT agenda.
1485  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Time to stand up to the XT shills here! on: November 08, 2015, 05:38:15 PM
To add a little bit of "logic" to this let's just look into why there is this sudden need to increase the block sizes.

Are they getting full now? In general no (around 50%) and when they have been full that has been only at times when spam attacks are happening (so nothing to do with actual consumer demand for BTC txs).

Another typical argument is: the average person isn't adopting Bitcoin so we need bigger blocks.

Hmm... but if the average person doesn't even earn any Bitcoin then why on earth are we expecting a huge number of new txs?

I've pointed out before that the remittance market is the biggest and most suitable match for BTC but it barely even has had any impact in that multi-billion dollar industry.

If the amount of effort that was being put into trying to push XT was actually put into to trying to get BTC into the remittance market then maybe we'd actually have a "real reason" to need bigger blocks quicker.
1486  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Time to stand up to the XT shills here! on: November 08, 2015, 05:27:54 PM
Bitcoin XT activation of BIP101 doesn't depend on "exchanges, payment processors, services ..." (or anything else).

Yup - yet the shills keep on trying to say that what matters is "nodes" not "miners" (and tend to go off into "freedom of choice" tangents from there).
1487  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Time to stand up to the XT shills here! on: November 08, 2015, 05:25:24 PM
Why is not the opposite?  Roll Eyes

How about you quote the misinformation rather than just making such statements?

Basically I think we are all getting sick and tired of the XT shills that don't even understand the technical arguments but just seemingly want to have Mike Hearn as their leader.
1488  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Time to stand up to the XT shills here! on: November 08, 2015, 04:59:12 PM
I want to make it clear that I'm not suggesting that Gavin is a *bad actor*, I'm just supplying evidence to support my claim that Bitcoin XT is considered a laughing stock from the Bitcoin Technical Community.

Thanks for supplying some actually relevant information (we don't get much apart from "freedom of speech" idiocy from the shills).
1489  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Time to stand up to the XT shills here! on: November 07, 2015, 08:00:32 PM
Keep on ignoring the "time" variable. It will sure help your cause.

And keep on trying to make the "time" variable a thing - it isn't.
1490  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Time to stand up to the XT shills here! on: November 07, 2015, 07:57:59 PM
There must be an underground facility in Manchuria turning out these shills like sausages and then sending them unknowingly out into the world with a pat on the bottom.

Manchuria?

Did you not read anything about history?
1491  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Coinbase is overstepping the bounds we should give it regarding Bitcoin XT on: November 07, 2015, 07:56:37 PM
There is general consensus amongst nodes and miners. The fact that some companies are trying to force us to move over to BIP101 does not mean that there is general consensus, only that those and a few others are trying to force us to give consensus to it.

Exactly - there is no widespread support for BIP101 as has been proved by the blockchain.
1492  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Coinbase is overstepping the bounds we should give it regarding Bitcoin XT on: November 07, 2015, 07:55:20 PM
This is where you are wrong and why all this mess is happening.

Proof please?
1493  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Time to stand up to the XT shills here! on: November 07, 2015, 07:53:11 PM
Let see if anyone of these will be implemented in a timely manner.

Again - there is no "need for a timely manner" this is just another bullshit "shill" thing.

You should consider running as a politician in Australia as they spout the same sort of nonsense that you do (and just look at how much Australians respect politicians).

1494  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Coinbase is overstepping the bounds we should give it regarding Bitcoin XT on: November 07, 2015, 07:52:06 PM
They haven't been forced on anyone. The fact is, there is currently consensus for 1MB blocks. There is not yet consensus in the wider community for BIP101. The fact that Coinbase is trying to force XT and BIP101 on everyone is grossly out of place.

Yes - everyone who has a brain "knows" this but the shills keep trying to push this as they hoping that somehow the ignorant masses might get behind them.
1495  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Time to stand up to the XT shills here! on: November 07, 2015, 07:49:40 PM
There are different propositions being worked on right now by the various people at Blockstream. Too bad you can't keep track, being retarded and all that.

He is a "shill" as we have shown - so I think we don't need to accuse him of being retarded - he is just doing what he has been told to do (I guess he is being paid to post).
1496  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Coinbase is overstepping the bounds we should give it regarding Bitcoin XT on: November 07, 2015, 07:40:34 PM
One thing is for sure, you won't succeed at forcing your useless small blocks on the market.

The small blocks are the "current thing" so they are not something that is to be "forced upon anyone" (they are the current situation).

This is typical "double-speak" from a shill (if you don't want to be so obvious a shill then improve your attacks).
1497  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Time to stand up to the XT shills here! on: November 07, 2015, 07:39:04 PM
The fact that no other scaling proposition other than the for profit privately owned Liquid should be worrying you. I'm not again Liquid but clearly blockstream have the wrong priorities on the scaling manner.

Again - look at the *reality* of what is happening now.

The only full blocks have been because of spam attacks (not real demand).

There is ample time to work on improving performance - the whole idea of making this out to be a crisis is the FUD from your masters.
1498  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Coinbase is overstepping the bounds we should give it regarding Bitcoin XT on: November 07, 2015, 07:34:36 PM
If china doesn't follow (which I would be surprised) there will be new pools and fresh new hashrate to get that money. So no, it does not worry me.

So you have shown you don't get it at all - China *leads* and *you follow*.

If you don't follow then you simply "fork off".

Funnily enough China is not the country trying to introduce a corporate takeover of Bitcoin and introduce blacklists, etc. only the US is trying to do that (it seems that China actually *gets* Bitcoin but the US does not).
1499  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Coinbase is overstepping the bounds we should give it regarding Bitcoin XT on: November 07, 2015, 07:29:49 PM
Hashrate will follow where the money is. I am not worried about that.

You don't seem to understand - China is where the money is (am guessing you must be American as only Americans would make such stupid statements).

1500  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Coinbase is overstepping the bounds we should give it regarding Bitcoin XT on: November 07, 2015, 07:26:40 PM
The situation is now this, some people considered the status quo as a consensus and firmly sit on it. while in fact, it is not. Now those on want to move are about to make a move because the other side is taking advantage of the status quo and are unwilling to give an inch, in a timely matter. Ignoring the "time" variable is where you people failed at reaching a consensus. There is still a month remaining though so the ball is in your camp.

You know what is the funniest thing - you don't have any Chinese exchange on your side.

The Chinese are actually smarter than Americans and they know exactly how to screw Americans which is why they don't take your side.

They are going to wait and see and then "fuck you up".

(Americans seem to forget that they can't threaten China at all)

Personally I am looking forward to December to see that you guys will fail and then will re-announce you are going to try the same shit next year (and you'll fail then also).
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