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1541  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin to go before Australian Senators this week on: May 19, 2013, 04:18:52 PM
What is a "Crypto Currency Central Bank"? lol
1542  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: May 19, 2013, 04:13:37 PM




Bid sum is getting smaller, but is still very high. The price hasn't moved in the last 2 days at all.

Speculations, anyone?
1543  Economy / Speculation / Re: [Mt. Gox Chart] Trying to get the best out of Gnuplot on: May 19, 2013, 04:02:05 PM
Do you plan to put those charts on a website or something?
1544  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Barometer on: May 19, 2013, 02:29:13 PM
swapped them and relabled directions to bullish and bearish

//edit: added option "market orders only", because i think market orders are more emotional than limited orders
and we now have a favicon, please update your bookmarks  Cheesy

Every order is filled by a market order. If there is a standing limit Bid, and your limit Ask overlaps that price, that limit Ask becomes a market order and would be in the sell direction

It's not. Gox differentiates here and clearly tags transactions with "market" and "limit" order types.
1545  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: May 19, 2013, 02:27:45 PM
Hi, I've been playing around with Gnuplot during the last couple of days.



Any idea of what I could add or improve ?
Cheers !

Looks very interesting, but somehow hard to read. I suggest to start a new thread to discuss further details.
1546  Local / Biete / Re: [Gruppenkauf] Avalon ASIC Chips (SebastianJu) Batch 3: 948 ASICs weg 20948 sold on: May 19, 2013, 02:04:04 PM
Scheint, als hätte Avalon seit gestern die Preise auf 780 BTC angepasst. Smiley
1547  Economy / Exchanges / Re: www.BITSTAMP.net Bitcoin exchange site for USD/BTC on: May 19, 2013, 02:02:02 PM
bitstamp has a rich set of APIs, however it seems that ripple withdraw through API is still not possible now.
will this be implemented any time soon? it will be greatly appreciated Smiley

Speaking of the API, does anyone know how it works with two-factor authentication?

It doesn't. API access skips 2FA. :/
1548  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Barometer on: May 19, 2013, 04:14:56 AM
I think you should swap xx sold | yy bought under the barometer to bought | sold. Or maybe it's just me, but I associate top with left and green/top is the first thing you see and because we read from left to right, shouldn't green be the first thing to read, too? Smiley
1549  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: May 18, 2013, 06:20:30 PM
Did I miss that point, really?

Wasn't implying that. Smiley
1550  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: May 18, 2013, 05:14:32 PM
I wasn't aware of that. But, due to the design of the network, you can't do naked shorting I would think. So, shorting would mean, borrowing actual shares from someones account and then selling them and promising to buy them back at a later date. I would also think that you would have to cover the sell in cash and would be subject to margin calls as well. I don't know if shorting BTC nor derivatives, could really ever "work" at quite the same was as they do in the stock market. For one, most people don't keep their coins in the exchanges - right there you can't borrow them for sale.

It works on Bitfinex because there's a pool of USD and BTC that's lent on a P2P system in exchange for interest. USD interest is very high and BTC interest is very low.


I guess some investors would do that, but die hard BTC'ers would NEVER EVER allow their coins to be used for such purposes. In the grand scheme of things it is probably quite small at that site and I can only hope it stays that way. Again, due to the nature of the network, you are not going to see naked shorts. And, due to most keeping larger amounts of coins offline, you just won't get the short volume needed to manipulate.

What is a naked short? Bitfinex is a great example, I at least like their concept, because it's actually "from the people, for the people" due to their P2P lending system. There are margin requirements, which by the way, could be one point the CFTC could regulate. (the requirements)

I'm not sure if I like it or not, because our overall goal should be a higher price, but I'm not sure, if my thought process isn't to shortsighted and this is an valid argument at all, because they have to buy back the coins when closing the position..

Anyway, you missed one importent point when it comes to money: where money can be made, there will always be people who try to exploit that. A current example would be the "true believers", who would never ever sell a Bitcoin, vs. the speculators, who trade the swings and are selling, buying lower etc.

Another thing to think about.. when we trade, we aren't actually transfering Bitcoins on the exchanges, but I assume, all Bitcoins are backed up by real Bitcoins.

I've read that the "real" finance does that at an even greater extent - many CFD (?) brokers simulate shorts etc. within their system, which results in a state, where traders play against the house and not against the market.
1551  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Barometer on: May 18, 2013, 04:52:05 PM
Haha, great! +1 Smiley
1552  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: May 18, 2013, 04:48:43 PM
Anyone else see a textbook head and shoulders formation? We're crossing thd neckline right now :/

Which timeframe? Call the points please. Smiley
1553  Local / Biete / Re: [Gruppenkauf] Avalon ASIC Chips (SebastianJu) Batch 2: 6872 ASICs weg 16872 sold on: May 18, 2013, 02:51:51 PM
dexX7; 20; 1.72; 1Fy67KkCqcp8suXV7CmxVYYF294c369XwZ
1554  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: BTC-E Trading Bot - User: jamesgarfield on: May 17, 2013, 02:07:04 PM
I can't believe this, does the bot literally just buy at price X and sells at price Y?

Does he not understand how normal orderbooks work?

There is no bot. It's all scam to steal BTC.

Virus Total: 13 / 47
1555  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: TradeFortress is a scammer. on: May 17, 2013, 02:05:44 PM
They are signed statements that there will be a settlement of debt in the future, they are even more explicit than any "loan agreement" on this forum.

It's not about "binding agreements" or "signed statements". I don't see anything wrong here. That's just how Ripple works.

Anyway, there is no difference between his IOU Bitcoins and any other "coins" on Ripple. If you want to send BTC, Ripple has no way to do that, because Ripple cannot handle actual Bitcoin, it can only handle promises out of thin air (and XRP). By trusting an user, you accept his promise, which is never backed up by real value, till you find someone who is willing to exchange some real goods for that promise.

There will always be someone left, who ended up with no real value, but IOUs. It's not a zero game.
1556  Economy / Scam Accusations / BTC-E Trading Bot - User: jamesgarfield [done - banned] on: May 17, 2013, 10:11:43 AM
This fake tool which was pushed buy socks poped up some time before.

Involved user:
jamesgarfield
Date Registered:   14 May 2013, 22:10:23

Threads:

DAY TRADING ROBOT (BTC-E)
Today at 05:47:28
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=207926.0

Day Trading Robot (BTC-E)
Today at 04:22:29
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=207848.0

Day Trading Robot (BTC-E)
Today at 04:51:34
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=207868.0

DAY TRADING ROBOT (BTC-E)
Today at 05:39:36
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=207921.0



Other warnings:

Day Trading Robot (BTC-E) -SCAM WARNING
Today at 05:13:15
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=207885.0


The source? Or the original scam back in april..
BTC-e.com Trading Bot v1.0 Smiley
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=190980.0


Edit:

There were more threads about this tool, which already got deleted.
1557  Economy / Services / Re: 1 million+ Twitter followers. Anyone interested in advertising? on: May 17, 2013, 09:22:36 AM
I'd be interested in many Twitter access tokens. Can you deliver?
1558  Economy / Speculation / Re: Price is about to Explode! on: May 17, 2013, 02:32:50 AM
Just want to throw in some bid/ask charts..



Well.. that's insane.

$ 310,50 here we come! Grin Smiley
1559  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: May 17, 2013, 02:23:10 AM
Gox has now deleted their first response to the DHS news from their web site and facebook page.

Roll Eyes Someone please tell Mark that you can't take back what you've posted on the Internet.

Hopefully they did that in exchange for a more serious announcement in the next minutes. For the sake of internet memory:

Quote
Statement Regarding Dwolla:

Like many who have contacted us, MtGox has read on the Internet that the United States Department of Homeland Security had a court order and/or warrant issued from the United States District Court in Maryland which it served upon the Dwolla mobile payment service with respect to accounts used for trading with MtGox. We take this information seriously. However, as of this time we have not been provided with a copy of the court order and/or warrant, and do not know its scope and/or the reasons for its issuance. MtGox is investigating and will provide further reports when additional information becomes known.

Anyway. https://www.facebook.com/MtGox/posts/468895216528224 still works. I guess the post was just hidden from their wall, but not deleted. Wink
1560  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: May 17, 2013, 12:47:09 AM
Not really a "rally" then is it?  Grin

May I ask which position you hold and what your prediction for the next hours and days is?
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