OK, since you didn't answer my question to you that I asked right before the post you're replying to, I'll ask again, what premine? I'm going to assume you mean the money mined at the start that was publicly announced before hand and that was used for the crowd sale in 2016. Is that what you're referring to?
If that's what you mean, it does not violate securities laws.
There is an exemption for the Howey Test if you cap fundraising at $100,000. Bryce did exactly that. He's worked with regulators from the start. There's photographic evidence. There's evidence on the SEC website.
If you have access to some other information I'm not aware of, do tell.
The TAO Network has made 30 million TAO tokens available for the ongoing month-long crowdsale. Rest of the tokens are allocated for development, marketing and community building exercises. The platform has announced that the value a TAO token will not be more than $1.00 during the crowdsale. Participants in the crowdsale shall receive a 25% bonus on their deposit if the deposit is made prior to Friday, August 5th. You might want to re-read that a little more carefully. "Not be more than $1.00" isn't the same as setting it specifically to $1 the way you're representing it. The amount paid per Tao was proportional to the amount raised, and it ended up at approximately $0.003 per Tao, which is a long way from $1.00 Whether it was capped or only raised ~$100K is irrelevant to the question of whether it qualifies as a security. It does not. Am I understanding you correctly that it was dumb luck that made him not break the law, then? Or did he deliberately not market things as well as he could have? Based on comments he's made, yes actually I'm pretty sure he fudded himself on purpose to keep most of crypto at arms length and get people to ignore what he was doing. I think he also intentionally let it languish on small exchanges nobody uses for the same reason, and to keep the shady ICO money away from the network so it stayed clean. For what he has been doing it was much more important for him to appeal to the people in the music industry than to the crypto industry. And to people in the music industry, most of the rest of crypto looks like a huge scam. That seems deliberately misleading and hardly the conduct of an honest agent.
Which regulation are you referring to, by the way?
The discussion was whether the Tao ICO needed to be registered as a security and whether it was done legally. Only raising ~$100,000 puts it well under the minimum for it to be exempt. I believe this is covered by Reg D - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulation_D_(SEC)#Rule_504I don't see where it would apply, as the sale was for up to 30 million dollars, which puts it significantly over the limit. Moreover, the SEC filing was done much much later. You're so obsessed with this nonexistent $30M. They raised around $110,000 and that is far less than the minimum required for registering as a security. How you are interpreting the press release you read from 2016 is totally irrelevant to the question of whether it is exempted under Reg D. Is $110,000 less than $1,000,000? Then it's under the minimum. Understand? The SEC filing is not related to the Tao ICO. That was for the AltMarket, and the fact that they registered is an indication they followed the law. sounds like max keisers holllywood penny stock exchange thing hmmmm  kek |
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we talking coins or stocks ? lol  wheres this imaginary exchange? pfttt bwwahahaha Coins, obviously. The exchange is still right where it was yesterday when I linked to it upthread. As previously mentioned, it is currently only allowing people to participate in the ODBcoin sale, with full trading to follow. https://exchange.alt.market/if there is only ONE COIN ON THERE it's not an exchange it's just a dumping ground for bryces dogshit!! lol  weeeeee |
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Truth as life itself.
when low
8K: "Will buy at $6K"
$6K: "Will buy at $3K"
$3K: "Will buy at $1.5K"
when up
$6K: "Will buy at $3K"
$8K: "Will buy at $6K"
$14K: "Will buy at $8K"
$20K: "Will buy at $14K"
This is so true LOL!!! When moon  avatar-sized    #brah |
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For adoption we need either forward-looking merchants or a solid entry into the payment card business. Debt cards seem easier to me, but the most recent events aren't nice at all. As for Shift, it's tied to Coinbase and, at least for the time being, US only. No cigar yet.
darkweb? lol =drugs , guns & illegal gambling ? |
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Make your predictions people: when do you think we will see Privacy on DCR?
What about Lightning Network?
Any other exciting features?
I think Privacy Q1 2019
LN Q2 2019
Too optimistic?
doxx all involved and send them to jail imho !! weeeee What did you mean by that, comrade? privacy for the scammers? hell no! ===> DOX THESE CROOKS! Your profile says: Trust: -2: -1 / +0
Warning: Trade with extreme caution! Hmm, I wonder who's the crook here. THE DEVELOPER IS THIS FUCKER MENI ROSENFELD IS ISREALI CRYPTO CARTEL MOBSTER WEEE STILL DIGGING DIRT ON THIS BITTREX ASIAN MAFIA CONNECTION *STAY TUNED* RUSSIANS PROLLY??? HMMM |
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It's one of the few places left where you can spend your bitcoins online. Unfortunately. I'm to the point of considering ordering a credit card. My Amex was supposed to be only for emergencies but I've racked up plenty of useless sky miles over the past year with it. Two words: Shift card. More words: spend your Bitcoin at any place that takes Visa. Goal of Bcash shills - attempt to get bitcoiners to spend their bitcoins, and trick BTC hodlers ... JJG, you're an autistic knee-jerker. Mind the context, mofo. We're pairing you two up together for third shift at the WO McDonald's. It always seem to happen like that. Fuck. I am going to quit this McieD's bullshit (and having to rub elbows with the likes of jbreher for 4 hours) as soon as I can get enough money for my own apartment. You fuckers.  Don't be too hasty. These burgers are going to the moon!!!!one!1!!  ~ass burgers hehe |
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Make your predictions people: when do you think we will see Privacy on DCR?
What about Lightning Network?
Any other exciting features?
I think Privacy Q1 2019
LN Q2 2019
Too optimistic?
doxx all involved and send them to jail imho !! weeeee What did you mean by that, comrade? privacy for the scammers? hell no! ===> DOX THESE CROOKS! |
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It is still undecided which one is the real BCash some people are still defending SV and sharing the interesting stuff. I think both coins are good for day trader and there is still good volume but it is big fun to keep an eye on this thread to see what is happening there.
I find the whole situation utterly hilarious. What goes around comes around .chickens come home to roost. Just deserts. Karma . You get the picture only stupid money follows this pack of morons lols |
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Make your predictions people: when do you think we will see Privacy on DCR?
What about Lightning Network?
Any other exciting features?
I think Privacy Q1 2019
LN Q2 2019
Too optimistic?
doxx all involved and send them to jail imho !! weeeee |
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 some peoples private keys to wealth ......... ~~~~> dick chainey? lel |
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I can drink all of them! P.S.: Let's just hope next season is the season of champagne, caviar, oysters, signature cocktails and all our wishes coming reality. the state of bitcoin circa xmas 2018 weeeeee >>> lol ===>  OOOOFF  weeeeee |
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I can drink all of them! P.S.: Let's just hope next season is the season of champagne, caviar, oysters, signature cocktails and all our wishes coming reality. the state of bitcoin circa xmas 2018 weeeeee >>> lol ===> |
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OK, since you didn't answer my question to you that I asked right before the post you're replying to, I'll ask again, what premine? I'm going to assume you mean the money mined at the start that was publicly announced before hand and that was used for the crowd sale in 2016. Is that what you're referring to?
If that's what you mean, it does not violate securities laws.
There is an exemption for the Howey Test if you cap fundraising at $100,000. Bryce did exactly that. He's worked with regulators from the start. There's photographic evidence. There's evidence on the SEC website.
If you have access to some other information I'm not aware of, do tell.
The TAO Network has made 30 million TAO tokens available for the ongoing month-long crowdsale. Rest of the tokens are allocated for development, marketing and community building exercises. The platform has announced that the value a TAO token will not be more than $1.00 during the crowdsale. Participants in the crowdsale shall receive a 25% bonus on their deposit if the deposit is made prior to Friday, August 5th. You might want to re-read that a little more carefully. "Not be more than $1.00" isn't the same as setting it specifically to $1 the way you're representing it. The amount paid per Tao was proportional to the amount raised, and it ended up at approximately $0.003 per Tao, which is a long way from $1.00 Whether it was capped or only raised ~$100K is irrelevant to the question of whether it qualifies as a security. It does not. Am I understanding you correctly that it was dumb luck that made him not break the law, then? Or did he deliberately not market things as well as he could have? Based on comments he's made, yes actually I'm pretty sure he fudded himself on purpose to keep most of crypto at arms length and get people to ignore what he was doing. I think he also intentionally let it languish on small exchanges nobody uses for the same reason, and to keep the shady ICO money away from the network so it stayed clean. For what he has been doing it was much more important for him to appeal to the people in the music industry than to the crypto industry. And to people in the music industry, most of the rest of crypto looks like a huge scam. That seems deliberately misleading and hardly the conduct of an honest agent.
Which regulation are you referring to, by the way?
The discussion was whether the Tao ICO needed to be registered as a security and whether it was done legally. Only raising ~$100,000 puts it well under the minimum for it to be exempt. I believe this is covered by Reg D - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulation_D_(SEC)#Rule_504I don't see where it would apply, as the sale was for up to 30 million dollars, which puts it significantly over the limit. Moreover, the SEC filing was done much much later. SEC doesn't care about bryces shitcoins lol   (((bwaahahahah!!*spits mcdonalds coffee*)))  |
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The whitepaper doesn't seems interesting nor the website. No active information are to the public.
These are some of things why investor doesn't seem interesting
even it's a bitcointalk-endorsed, seems that their marketing or communications department is not active. or maybe they are more active in other channels. btw, any figures on how much is raised up until now? billions weeee |
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Quote
"None of the participants in the ionomy project were ever involved in the perpetration of the G.A.W. fraud."
I am sure that Joe Mordica was on the team at some stage and the god fearing Adam is still on the team. Well what do I know I am just a fool.
ION = G.A.W MINERS + THEY NEED TO PAY UP THESE REDNECKS YOU MADE SHILL YOUR DOGSHIT WILL NOT BE HAPPY WITH KNOWN CROOKS $$$ FUNDING THEM!!! :\ MEH ~JMHO
... GARZA STEALING BITCOIN !! YOU NEW HERE? |
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OK, since you didn't answer my question to you that I asked right before the post you're replying to, I'll ask again, what premine? I'm going to assume you mean the money mined at the start that was publicly announced before hand and that was used for the crowd sale in 2016. Is that what you're referring to?
If that's what you mean, it does not violate securities laws.
There is an exemption for the Howey Test if you cap fundraising at $100,000. Bryce did exactly that. He's worked with regulators from the start. There's photographic evidence. There's evidence on the SEC website.
If you have access to some other information I'm not aware of, do tell.
The TAO Network has made 30 million TAO tokens available for the ongoing month-long crowdsale. Rest of the tokens are allocated for development, marketing and community building exercises. The platform has announced that the value a TAO token will not be more than $1.00 during the crowdsale. Participants in the crowdsale shall receive a 25% bonus on their deposit if the deposit is made prior to Friday, August 5th. You might want to re-read that a little more carefully. "Not be more than $1.00" isn't the same as setting it specifically to $1 the way you're representing it. The amount paid per Tao was proportional to the amount raised, and it ended up at approximately $0.003 per Tao, which is a long way from $1.00 Whether it was capped or only raised ~$100K is irrelevant to the question of whether it qualifies as a security. It does not. Am I understanding you correctly that it was dumb luck that made him not break the law, then? Or did he deliberately not market things as well as he could have? Based on comments he's made, yes actually I'm pretty sure he fudded himself on purpose to keep most of crypto at arms length and get people to ignore what he was doing. I think he also intentionally let it languish on small exchanges nobody uses for the same reason, and to keep the shady ICO money away from the network so it stayed clean. For what he has been doing it was much more important for him to appeal to the people in the music industry than to the crypto industry. And to people in the music industry, most of the rest of crypto looks like a huge scam.
Which regulation are you referring to, by the way?
The discussion was whether the Tao ICO needed to be registered as a security and whether it was done legally. Only raising ~$100,000 puts it well under the minimum for it to be exempt. I believe this is covered by Reg D - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulation_D_(SEC)#Rule_504we talking coins or stocks ? lol wheres this imaginary exchange? pfttt bwwahahaha |
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 just say this one : "well the next bullrun around 2020 to 2021 my dudes! - 2019 is the year of accumulation! ;-) " can be .... but guys you know me, for me the bullrun can start already "but i do agree for steady and not to extreme fast who am i kidding, i know its the best for slow and steady, but F*** i just love the green dildo smashes the previous ones and everything to go as crazy AFHaHaHa LoL no BTI is the key .. noobs lol |
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... who are you that you go trawling through everybody else's business, IRS??
Money is a zero sum game system of control to replace the law of the jungle, so technically it's everyone's business since you have the option to choose whether it's a legit or remotely fair or beneficial system, or a rigged system that does not benefit you, then you can fall back to the law of the jungle and simply take from those who attempt to enslave you. Great post I welcome a collapse where money means nothing and all the paper property ownership means nothing. Money is a way for weak and old people to stay in charge. Can't believe so many people are brainwashed into thinking it has actual value. in bitcoin weeeee™ trust //;)\\ choochoo™ all abraod!! |
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