Does anyone remember or still go to Newgrounds.com? It is a flash game/entertainment site where it was free for users to upload their creative flash games/movies for all to enjoy. Many online free to play flash gaming companies upload their work to Newgrounds everyday. It is even possible you have played some of their games (to pass the time for some) and not even know it, on other sites. I think these companies and websites like Newgrounds.com, could be helpful toward bringing Bitcoin/bitcoin mass adoption through Gaming. We should be using these free sites to upload great bitcoin related content in flash, to reach their user base. (if you are a Flash Artist/Animator) These proposed Animated movies/games would be valuable advertisement toward Bitcoin/bitcoin and is currently untapped. Here is an example animation from Newgrounds: http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/646835We should contact and associate with those companies to see if they will put in their games, bitcoin donation and or information buttons. Free to play online games, usually in browsers, are likely a large user base. |
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Or maybe OP is not actually anti-bitcoin, maybe that's just sarcasm and his sense of humour?
Maybe that's why he has linked to satirical bitcoin obituary site and "You can't kill the Bitcoin" video?
Just maybe...
Agreed, but is it 10 pages worthy? There are some interesting threads that get 2 pages max. Now that I look at it, I think he made this post just to get his daily post in. He's farming activity, he has 580 posts and 580 activity.
What can I say? I'm a farmer of men. |
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Pretty interesting how worthless threads like this get many pages and responses that just compound upon each other. If the OP is "fucking out", then why post and announce it to the forum? Just sell and disappear. This is a thread trap.  |
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i printtet out a paper wallet i created in bitadres.org and gave it too my bank to look after incase my haus burns down or i get robbed i said"this is a bitcoin paper wallet can you put this safe in my account" the lady said "yes mr. we will keep in a safe depoist box" i gave it she took it then i walked out then...
then i 3 days later i cheked my online woallet on blocchain and the MONEY WAS MISSING SHE STOLLED IT i avenet gone to police yet i dont evidence is ther any i can do
 BTW, you place your paper wallet into your physical safe deposit box yourself, you do not hand to clerk and walk away. That is usually against Banking rules. What country are you in? EDIT: Seems to be a massive Troll Scammer, from other past posts. Let this thread die. |
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... In November 1999, a series of articles in the Laissez Faire City Times presented the Digital Monetary Trust project,[27] which was a proposed financial trust providing private, anonymous accounts for individuals and entities within the DMT system, in order to securely store anonymous capital or to make anonymous monetary transactions.
"That is, the DMT will be in the business of providing privacy, and doing so in a cryptographical framework which provides a more solid basis for customer anonymity than the traditional ones of (allegedly) tight-lipped bankers or (often-leaky) banking secrecy laws."
Orlin Grabbe James Orlin Grabbe supposedly died from heart failure around March 15, 2008 in San Jos้, Costa Rica. ... I really like this one since not only does the "Digital Monetary Trust project" fit as a real world test run to the Bitcoin Concept and Purpose, but also when Grabbe died (3/15/2008) shortly thereafter, Satoshi Nakamoto starts popping up online on forums discussing such ideas which ultimately leads to the whitepaper (i don't know the official publishing date, but in 2008). November 1, 2008, Satoshi posts this: http://www.mail-archive.com/cryptography%40metzdowd.com/msg09959.htmlBasically 7.5 months later after Grabbe's death. |
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1. How many children are using Bitcoin?
2. Are we unintentionaly excluding some people from adopting Bitcoin/Crypto?
3. What is the legal implications?
3. What is the ethical implications? {Minors}
4. Do we have more young people using it, than the older generation?
5. Do older people find it too complex?
6. Who should be the target market for faster mass adoption?
I agree with OP. These are very important questions that need discussion and answering. Some members are concerned with the 20mb cap fight currently, but there are other issues (non-protocol) that need attention as well. BTW, I voted for 26 to 40, but I would not be surprised if we have more under 18 then we would all like to admit. |
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it won't be mass adoption because the average user is not a gamer,a gamer is usually an advanced user in computers and it is usually a teenager
I'm pretty sure average age for a gamer is not a teenager, but 30 to 32 years old (in the US). http://www.esrb.org/about/video-game-industry-statistics.jspThe current average bitcoin user is interested in finance (diversification, hedging, stocks, etc) or politics (libertarian, anarchists, etc). IMO, I think that the gamer group will bring the next increase in ranks. They won't hold the beliefs of the previous groups, but will understand the use and potential. |
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I also doubt it would make the price move higher, if anything it would be spun in an incredibly negative light by the media.
This. The last thing we want is Bitcoin associated in any way with those lunatics. Good riddance. We don't need them in any way. |
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I was just thinking, wouldn't it be a good idea for bitcoin ATMs to be placed inside Videogame stores (GameStops, etc) and electronic stores (BestBuys, etc)?
They'd be in safe places for people to perform btc purchases and is placed in a store where our target user (Gamers) would be.
The average user would now be able to buy some btc as easily as buying a new video game.
I think we need to move away from boutiques and coffee shops, if we want mass adoption.
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Somebody answer this question quickly for me please: Is it safe to say that Satoshi would know these skill sets: RUBY ON RAILS JAVASCRIPT HTML CSS .NET ORACLE DB MS SQL AWS (AMAZON WEB SERVICES) JQUERY MOBILE? Asking, because of this guy: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adubinskyGo and read it. All of it. I have a theory. I looked at his page... very interesting indeed. I think your theory should be investigated more. |
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We are discussing it here ----> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=958379.0 {More specific Dota2 & Starcraft} There are also members who already incorporated it into games like Minecraft {Ask member -- Vortex20000} In my opinion the best platform to use this would be in the MMORPG scene.... Almost ALL of them have a "inhouse" currency built into the game.. they just have to simply switch to Bitcoin, and people would then be using real money.. { The question will then be, would children go to school and/or parents go to work? } If you have seen the documentary about the people addicted to games like World of Warcraft, you would agree with me that it would lead to further problems. {Unregulated money laundering / selling of drugs / Loan sharks / underage children being exploited in games etc. etc... All the "bad" things.. that comes with money.} I basically agree with everything you are saying, including the potential downsides of btc with gaming. My original post really corresponded with the Gamer Community, in general. I just wish that all Gamers (no matter what game system, etc) would know what Bitcoin/bitcoin is. They are the ones that are gonna get us millions of user world wide, IMO. |
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Excellent concept... would certainly draw more gamers to the party... however why would the gaming companies not do a quick dump?
A quick dump is not a problem. For mass adoption, we have to play the long game. In order for them to dump, the gamers have to go buy/use the btc first. We just need gamers seeing, using, learning about Bitcoin/bitcoin once, and after that they will be supporters. The real problem is advertising to the right audience. Currently, bitcoin is advertising or trying to get the financial interests (at least that is my take), while fighting off the governmental interests. Maybe we need to focus on the Gamer interests (target users), and then the financial interests will follow. I'm guessing that 95% of all gamers, between the ages of 20 to 45, have never heard of bitcoin. I personally, only found out about bitcoin from financial articles online late in 2013. Before that, I had never seen or heard of Bitcoin/bitcoin (even though its been around since 2008). I would very likely not be here or know anything about bitcoin today, without that original exposure. Gamers, I believe, would understand it and appreciate it, and should be the next group to join us. This is just my opinion. I have no knowledge if this has already been discussed (or planned/think tanked) and determined that financials interests are priority. |
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How does bitcoin become more well known, in a cool/credible way, and still find its target user base?I propose that bitcoin will gain its most user growth, that will bring the mass adoption, through the video game industry. Mass adoption will not come through which venders begin accepting BTC as a payment. Video games reach our target users way more than overstock or zappos does. I believe our target users are between the ages of 20 to 40, which is the prime gaming ages. I believe we are now at a cross roads where we need more users, to get new/bigger/more venders on board. Whether its through advertising, placing BTC symbols in games, character dialog mentioning bitcoin, games bought with bitcoin, in game transaction being paid in bitcoin (like itunes/ipad/iphone games), currency in video games being called bitcoin (such as a scifi game), or whatever. We should push in trying to get these types of companies on board, for example: - Machinima - RoosterTeeth - Activision - Bioware - Bungie - Valve - Gamestop - Steam Updates - Ideas for Progress: (1) 2/25/15 - Bitcoin ATM's (or BTMs) should be located in Videogame Stores and Electronic Stores. Safe, easy, helps spread the currency, and in a prime target user location. (AgentofCoin - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=966858.msg10581652#msg10581652) (2) 2/25/15 - Famous YouTubers who play games (ex. PEWDIEPIE) should make videos or video statements regarding Bitcoin/bitcoin. Determine if any are currently users and get their support, if not, send them information so that they are now aware of it. (Hamuki - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=966858.msg10576268#msg10576268) (3) 2/26/15 - Free to Play Browser Flash Games/Animations about Bitcoin/bitcoin could be helpful creating buzz in Free to Play/Post Websites. These games/animations would be posted on Flash Websites, such as Newgrounds.com, whose users base is our target user. (AgentofCoin - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=966858.msg10594296#msg10594296) I believe mass adoption will come, when we find a way to enter the mainstream of video gaming. Discuss. If you disagree, what do you think will bring the (the big one) "mass adoption"?
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Arbitration provisions are standard in most Contracts/Agreements in the US.
You can get around that if it is found that Coinbase did something willfully fraudulent/negligent or performed gross misconduct.
If it was a mistake (such as the Press Guy at Coinbase thought they had License, when making the statement) it is not actionable in Court, and would be arbitration.
They had a whole office full of people that night as shown by a few pictures posted by Charlie Lee of their team "working". Even if the press guy made a mistake someone at their office read those news stories and could have done something to correct them, but they didn't cause they where making money hand over fist that night. The state of California had to chime up to protect people. I'm 100% sure this isn't a Press Guy mess up... it was a company rick rolling tons of folks out of a lot of money and they think they can get away with it by pulling the "dip shit card". Personally, i don't really know the Coinbase story, I was just commenting on arbitration clauses. If its true, you'll get your evidence in discovery and depositions. If you find/get anything significant, they will settle with you out of Court. |
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Here is a email I received from Johnathan Levy that I got this morning. Not the most positive thing, but gotta keep fighting the good fight!
Hi Steve,
Thanks for the note.
The problem we are facing is that Coinbase has a user agreement that
mandates that any action be an individual arbitration action.
This prevents us from being a class action on behalf of all users in
court. Thus, any damages would only be limited to a single person and
would only be a few hundred dollars. It is thus not worth it for us to
get involved.
We are still trying to see if there is a way around this arbitration
provision but it is not looking good.
unfortunately, a lot of unscrupulous companies use this arbitration
provision to get away with scams they can perpetrate on their customers.
I will let you know if anything new develops.
Thanks
Not looking to bright from them at this point! Figured someone else might be interested in knowing that as well.
Arbitration provisions are standard in most Contracts/Agreements in the US. You can get around that if it is found that Coinbase did something willfully fraudulent/negligent or performed gross misconduct. If it was a mistake (such as the Press Guy at Coinbase thought they had License, when making the statement) it is not actionable in Court, and would be arbitration. You have to prove in Court that a willful deception was committed. Evidence of this would be insider emails or past employees stating such. |
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When Bitcoin goes mainstream, all that Average Joe is going to see and know is, User Name & Password & how much is in their "account".
All the addresses/privatekeys/confirmations/coinbases/txid/fees/etc will all be hidden behind a nice bland user interface.
Average Joes won't even truly understand what their private key is and will care even less about the advantage of decentralization.
The wallet program will maintain everything/encrypt/decrypt/key generation/etc., but will be hidden and only found after clicking the "Advanced" button.
And when you click that button, a message will popup, "Warning: Only advanced Bitcoin users should proceed. Changing any settings could harm your Wallet".
Average Joe will not proceed.
IMO, this will be the reality till one generation of the above stated user is gone.
Then Average Joe's children will understand, probably around 2050 AD.
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Hey guys!! I'm one of the few that actually bought bitcoins on 2009 and made a 1000% profit. Im at 15 bitcoins right now and im looking for some people that have idea or actual investment project.  Probably the most safe, compared to most "investment programs/projects" out there. But i have never used it. |
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All verified users or just an email with a password?
I think it is just new wallets created, so email with a password. |
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most forum members against the 20mb fork are associated with Monero.
Where is the proof for your claim? Neither Theymos nor tvbcof nor NewLibery nor sardokan nor davout nor Pete Dushenski are "associated with Monero." Did I say any of those people are associated with monero? You are so batshit crazy. You implied "most" of those people (IE forum members against the fork) are associated with monero. I may be crazy, but am not the only one who noticed you making a fool of yourself: Most forum members against the fork are Monero backers you say.
How many exactly?
I can only count 2 in this thread.
Good luck trying to walk back your bullshit claim. Maybe you should spend your time creating a new thread where you can outline your unique opinion. Clearly, you are unhinged and need to be heard and agreed with in order to feel validated. Go write PMs to Gavin and see if you can convince him of your bandwidth argument. When I made my statement as to Monero users, I was referring to all threads related to this topic. Last i checked, there were three, this is only one. (the longest one now) In the other two threads, Monero users are against the fork as well. I'm not here to "walk back my bullshit claim", all that the forum members here have to do it check the postings of all the people who are against the fork, within the three threads now, and see what the percentage is. From what I have read the past week and a half, most were monero proponents. I don't really care if I look like a fool or not in front of forum members. My life is not this forum and I don't live my life based on others opinions. Go take a walk and call your psychotherapist when you aren't busy expressing your unique opinion. |
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