Let's put out an offer for someone really skilled, but give him insane deadlines and pay him one fifth of the bounty if he missed this deadline.
What a brilliant idea. If I were a programmer capable of implementing ring signatures in a satoshi based client within such a ridiculously short time, I sure as hell wouldn't make it for a random coin.
I'd make my own.
We're going to increase the time to 1 month. I myself know 1 week is ridiculous after contacting few pro coders. Still waiting for MyFarm. Please respond proactively thank you. Honestly why would u make your own when u cant handle it later? Scam a few peps that what ur saying? If someone is capable of integrating ring signatures into the satoshi client, they are way more capable than you are anyways, so why would they do it for you instead of creating their own altcoin? Dreamcoin is looking to be the next big pump, that's it. Because marketing is hard. If there's a **well distributed** community of motivated stakeholders **both big and small**, then it's WAY more lucrative for me to give the community something it wants than to go create yet another altcoin that might be technically interesting but has no active users. Besides, I don't learn anything releasing code that nobody runs. Scamming is for bitcoiners. I'd like to believe this community has a dream of something better See this guy is a hero for us, i love the fact that he doesnt just want to "make a new coin" as theres already hundreds rotting away and give DRM a new life as the first ever POS anon currency.So here's the deal... You, the Dreamcoin community, have to make some hard decisions, and tell me what's really important. Cause I can do development fast, but to do that, I need to US dollars to pay my bills and possibly hire other people. But I'd rather do **high quality work** rather than another quick pump-and-dump. That is NOT going to come quickly, and might involve dramatically changing some coin fundamentals, because there are a lot of broken fundamentals in different places because someone grabs something derived from the Satoshi bitcoin client, makes a change, and doesn't fully understand what they are doing. Satoshi had a brilliant concept with blockchains, and Bitcoin was a great first implementation. Proof of stake was a pretty interesting addition. Now we have Dreamcoin, which has a great name. But you don't achieve your dreams without making a few mistakes, and learning from them along the way. So here's an idea.. wouldn't Dreamcoin be the ideal coin for a fully distributed crowdfunding system, like http://blog.vinumeris.com/2014/05/17/lighthouse/ ? I could probably implement (and most importantly, test) some sort of ring signatures and/or darkcoin-like anonymity protections for $50k to $100K USD in a couple of months. If there's no money, and I'm doing this in my spare time, it might be 6 to 18 months. It might be a lot faster if there is a community that comes together out of something more that just the 'next big coin'. Excellent post, looks like you will do the break test and etc yourself by the looks of it. Dreamcoin can become really professional through this quality work. Yeah man im sure we raise a atleast $5000 in the beginning and hey we have MyFarm. I sure aint looking for a shit pnd but a long term potential coin here. I understand that POS cryptonote is a different algo all together and it will be much harder if thats what you are aiming. I will try getting BTC and DRM addresses started later hopefully. Is there any chance you maybe commit full time to this at some point? I sent an email addressing ETA, could you state the processes you will be doing as well? Hello everyone, it is unlikely many of you know Dreamcoin but we are aiming to be the most rarest and innovative anonymous coin in the ALTsphere. Dreamcoin current stands at 1.8mill total coins, with 15% annual POS interest. What we want to do is transition Dreamcoin from a satoshi client to a monero and darksend client in order to become anonymous through both ways. This will make Dreamcoin to be the first Cryptonote/Darksend POS coin resulting in a new algorothim all together that will generate a lot of demand through the masses. We are looking to achieve a goal of 100BTC in whatever form you can donate, here are the addresses: 1. DRM address: D67tnkGnibd1fe3gPLdmrsnRx2hhYYQh6g 2. BTC address: 1DoEFszLXdt6PB4nLEno4HtgvcTzqhFB34 3. Dogecoin address: DPaqvjVaLmo81ek29RPGqPzdys2MTxcrVD Currently it is being traded at Poloniex as well: https://poloniex.com/exchange/btc_drmBe serious 100BTC? firstly only escrow level member would be acceptable to hold the coins second 100BTC to create some coin mixing feature? You don't need to go crazy on anon stuff, i'm sure one or the other would be sufficient, you can spend the other 80BTC on creating some real use for the coin. Right now the coin works fine and is quite rare. I see no need for this price crash considering the minting number. The escrow level person should only release coins gradually to the developer as it is proven to be working fine. What would donators get in return? always have to make it worth their while. There is no need for donations at this time all info continues at this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=620418.new#new |
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We will be okay.
Monday is not far off and I hope to hear from Carsen.
I did not wish for insurrection or mutiny I am here for rescue.
In moments of chaos quick decisions have to be made and the most rational at this point is being prepared to go forward
Monday gives us time to organize this chaos
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Resilience is a positive trait. I personally will do all that is within my power to not let this coin fail and die. I cannot make grand promises, but we will do what we can to make the coin grow . Our first order beyond the basics of base frame will be finding merchants. and expanding the user base. Anon features are on the side burner for the time being. Yes we all desire them < however this is not in my realm of knowledge and will require time. I do assure you that it will come when it is within reason of capability and resources. I will not be asking the community for money to fund such ventures. this will have to come as a desire of the community or when the capable coders are available to assist in the implementation.
I will not make false sales or promises to any of you.
Phase one is getting things in order to be up on monday as a community ran coin.
Phase two is marketing and merchants
Phase three is mobile development and anon features as they both have obstacles to be overcome
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I will do my best to help us move forward and beyond these set backs.
The true strength of any coin is the community that rallies behind it.
If you take personal stock interest in it and help feed it, it will grow.
It's not about the developer (though it doesn't hurt having a good one)
It's about everyone involved.
Let's build the dream
True...but please answer my questions I think i did. I want to get us on coinpayments that will get us on a few merchants Merchants are key here. Also we need a paper wallet gen, and an android wallet however the android wallet will be another challenge because proof of stake coins work differently than proof of work coins others have been working on those problems so it's also an in the wings thing. with paper wallets we can start a canvasing campaign to sped the word to the outside world the more following we gather the better... These are just some ideas for starters... nfox and hozer, etc still gonna be coding anon right? pretty big + for us I haven't talked to nfox as of yet and would like to hear from him. Hozer i will call this afternoon. I can't make any promises at this moment about the anon features being immediate. They will come in time. At this moment they are not the primary concern Primary concern is getting us back on track and set towards those future goals |
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I will do my best to help us move forward and beyond these set backs.
The true strength of any coin is the community that rallies behind it.
If you take personal stock interest in it and help feed it, it will grow.
It's not about the developer (though it doesn't hurt having a good one)
It's about everyone involved.
Let's build the dream
True...but please answer my questions I think i did. I want to get us on coinpayments that will get us on a few merchants Merchants are key here. Also we need a paper wallet gen, and an android wallet however the android wallet will be another challenge because proof of stake coins work differently than proof of work coins others have been working on those problems so it's also an in the wings thing. with paper wallets we can start a canvasing campaign to sped the word to the outside world the more following we gather the better... These are just some ideas for starters... |
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I will do my best to help us move forward and beyond these set backs.
The true strength of any coin is the community that rallies behind it.
If you take personal stock interest in it and help feed it, it will grow.
It's not about the developer (though it doesn't hurt having a good one)
It's about everyone involved.
Let's build the dream
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I have his email and Two different phone numbers for him as iI have stated i have worked with hozer in the past
cool beans  tell me some things you plan to do with DRM? not just make it anon and leave it there im assuming? please address my questions at your will I want to get us on coinpayments that will get us on a few merchants Merchants are key here. Also we need a paper wallet gen, and an android wallet however the android wallet will be another challenge because proof of stake coins work differently than proof of work coins others have been working on those problems so it's also an in the wings thing. with paper wallets we can start a canvasing campaign to sped the word to the outside world the more following we gather the better... These are just some ideas for starters... |
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I have his email and Two different phone numbers for him as iI have stated i have worked with hozer in the past
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I then declare a deadline of Monday May 26th 2014 to relaunch I will be building a new team please pm me if you have any skills that will be helpful.
Also as far as zerocoin is concerned that will take time. as that is beyond my capabilities. However I / WE will tentatively be looking into it or similar technology in the future. Now the most important part is maintaining the vitality and growth of the coin. As in merchants and our core platforms. We will need to get a new blockexplorer and website up and i still need source code for the github. I do hope Carsen comes through.
This is not the way i wished for this coin to go...
I think getting any information from that scammer of a dev is out of the question. I believe nfox said he had the source code (back on page 1 of this thread). He will be your best bet, so PM him. I already have just waiting for a response. I hate to think you're right but my gut is telling me not to hold my breath as well. However I want to give him the benefit of the doubt and hopefully we are not pushed back spaces in the zerocoin field as well as other pieces of the greater picture So is the MOnday May 26th deadline, a deadline you are giving to hear back from the original Dev? If you don't hear back from him are we moving forward with the new dev team? Thanks again for your help in trying to rebuild DRM. Yes this is the plan as of the moment. I will also call hozer the afternoon and see what he has to say about the anon features... |
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Yes....Johnny_non gets my vote as well to step up into the dev position. No brainer honestly.....
College....thank you for taking a step back brother!
It was a very rational thought on my part honestly, i had so much stuff going on myself (school etc) that wouldnt fulfil my responsiblities in the long term sucessfully, note to johnny; please dont give this Carsen guy too much time because it would be a waste of time but until then you've got a good amount of time to plan ahead for the future I want to have things in place to be able to put out on Monday if I receive no response I believe this to be a generous amount of time both for him and myself to get things in order... |
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I then declare a deadline of Monday May 26th 2014 to relaunch I will be building a new team please pm me if you have any skills that will be helpful.
Also as far as zerocoin is concerned that will take time. as that is beyond my capabilities. However I / WE will tentatively be looking into it or similar technology in the future. Now the most important part is maintaining the vitality and growth of the coin. As in merchants and our core platforms. We will need to get a new blockexplorer and website up and i still need source code for the github. I do hope Carsen comes through.
This is not the way i wished for this coin to go...
I think getting any information from that scammer of a dev is out of the question. I believe nfox said he had the source code (back on page 1 of this thread). He will be your best bet, so PM him. I already have just waiting for a response. I hate to think you're right but my gut is telling me not to hold my breath as well. However I want to give him the benefit of the doubt and hopefully we are not pushed back spaces in the zerocoin field as well as other pieces of the greater picture |
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I then declare a deadline of Monday May 26th 2014 to relaunch I will be building a new team please pm me if you have any skills that will be helpful.
Also as far as zerocoin is concerned that will take time. as that is beyond my capabilities. However I / WE will tentatively be looking into it or similar technology in the future. Now the most important part is maintaining the vitality and growth of the coin. As in merchants and our core platforms. We will need to get a new blockexplorer and website up and i still need source code for the github. I do hope Carsen comes through.
This is not the way i wished for this coin to go...
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I can't work under a kid, nor do i trust a kid with the community's money
Collegestudent is a 17 year old that lives in india.
I know hozer and have his phone # i reffered him to this project. I have other dev connections. As i have mentioned before this would not be the first coin i have been part of it's revival
However as i stated i will not work under a 17 year old kid or want him in a community management position he is also a big part of why we are in this situation we are in now...
Please listen to reason if you want the coin to succeed
Collegestudent. I kept quiet these couple of days to let you work your magic. Looks like you made many Dreamers BTC disappeared. When Carsen came back today and mentioned that he's the Dev and no one is taking over. You should have let it be. I agree with johnny_non. I do not trust you with the bounty. Here are my reasons: 1. I know you're holding a large DRM bag at 10k+ satoshis. This is why you are like a short fuse when you things don't go your way. 2. You asked for people to donate DRM and requested them to donate 50% of their stack. WTF is this, that's not a donation. That's a robbery. I would not like to go to your church. 3. Viecoin was generous enough to be the first person to donate to your DRM wallet address in the amount of 3550DRM. Instead of thanking him, you requested for BTC or DOGE instead but yet you mentioned dreamers to donate 50% of their DRMs. What the heck is this? 4. What will happen when the donations is not enough to cover Hozer's fees? Will you return all donations or just pocket it? I say, all bounties should be in escrow or with a senior member of bitcointalk that is also a DRM whale (Top 5) such as MyFarm or Coinman. Good luck Dreamers! I would like to have a consensus view from our community. Would you want me to take lead here. As stated I know hozer and what his motives for doing were. that was myfarm's bounty that was large. I will not ask you for money to do this donations are just that donations. Not bribes. I have worked with a few developers so we have coders in the wings if and when needed I would like to have things in order to relaunch Monday, but i still want to hear back from Carsen. Yes i disagree with his actions but do believe that without giving him an opportunity to help we cut ourselves short. A coin is always community property. Look at Bitcoin Yes there are central individuals that run and maintain but no one has a deed of ownership. I am here to help and to make sure we move forward. Please let me know if you align with me... Thank you johnny |
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I can't work under a kid, nor do i trust a kid with the community's money
Collegestudent is a 17 year old that lives in india.
I know hozer and have his phone # i reffered him to this project. I have other dev connections. As i have mentioned before this would not be the first coin i have been part of it's revival
However as i stated i will not work under a 17 year old kid or want him in a community management position he is also a big part of why we are in this situation we are in now...
Please listen to reason if you want the coin to succeed
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I need a copy of the source code...
As i said we give him until monday and if we don't see anything from him we go ahead...
in the meaan time we take the steps to have everything ready for monday we will need an new website bullt and hosted a new block explorer (hopefully with a richlist
the multi pool to continue and a few new sites for social media or for those that are running the social media to step forward...
Nobody panic the captain didn't sink the ship he just attempted to lock the control room.
the ship she still sails
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How far back in dreamcoin devīs post archive do I need to go, to see the stuff you are describing here ?
Did you actually see proof of the hired new dev, from dreamcoin ?
It is always best to see for yourself and make your own assesment |
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I hope DRM will slowly get better!
We will be okay. My vote here is we give until Monday to Put things back or we have no choice. That being said we also have to have things ready in the wings to push a Monday deadline for the community revival . I have already volunteered to take lead in getting things on track. I have been a part of a few other coin revivals and dreamcoin is by far the healthiest with the most potential. we will be okay dreamers.... |
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We will be picking up this coin and putting it back on track
It might take a couple of days but we have to let a little dust settle in the meantime....
We must continue to be proactive in all events though so i have messaged carsen and hopefully he has a change of heart in his actions and will at least bring back the site and blockexplorer or pass on the code to the new team i am saddend by the juvenile activity by collegestudent and carsen for stooping to these levels
i am going to call hozer later and he will no longer be dealing with collegestudent i reffed him to the old thread in reference to myfarm's bounty I don't know how he ended up in talks with collegestudent
but i have worked with him in the past.
Anyway dreamcoin still has a bright future and i will not let it die ....
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New wallet installed on AllCrypt.com should be up in about 5 mins.
Thank you. OP has been upadated |
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