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161  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 16, 2016, 05:09:03 AM
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P.S...  Everyone should ignore the user "bargainbin" , look at his post history and you can see he constantly wastes people time by asking the same questions over and over, and trolls to create dissent. He/She isn't genuine and intends to do our ecosystem harm.


The question has never been answered, that's why it's being asked again and again. Clearly Cconvert2G36 had *exactly the same questions*, which you *again* failed to answer.

But great job playing the tinfoil hat "intends to do our ecosystem harm."


What question? Ask your question plainly.
162  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 16, 2016, 05:04:26 AM

Not sure how real money plays into this. Explain please.

Sorry brah, BitUsher said it best...

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P.S...  Everyone should ignore the user "bargainbin" , look at his post history and you can see he constantly wastes people time by asking the same questions over and over, and trolls to create dissent. He/She isn't genuine and intends to do our ecosystem harm.

Btw, "real money" hasn't been real since the '70's

163  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 16, 2016, 04:41:28 AM
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NMN are important for the security of their users, not the network.

You better talk to your buddies at BTCC about the whole 1 node per economic agent letter to santa principle.

Security based on encouraging people to do the right thing. What can possibly go wrong?
(If you riddle out "economic agent" & "economic majority" (as defined in Bitcoin wiki), drop me a line.)


Yeah, the Byzantine problem is provably unsolvable.

The incentive-based solution of bitcoin has only been proven to work for the last 6 years.

Take a look at the incentives in the current system of money issuance and tell me there's no problem.
164  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: February 16, 2016, 04:22:23 AM
There's a lot of pressure not to cross the 20k mark. I've been watching this for a while now and just when somebody puts a bid over 20, somebody dumps coins and drops the ask below that. I think that either somebody is desperate to keep the price down (margin calls?) or this is orchestrated by a group for accumulation reasons.

FWIW, I managed to get some more at 18xx today on an instant dump.  Smiley

Resistance at five hundred to one was expected.
https://twitter.com/theshmadz/status/698448562451906560

Breaking and holding above that level would be something interesting.
165  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 16, 2016, 04:01:13 AM
... Brevity is the soul of wit.

Not plagiarism?  Good Artists Copy; Great Artists Steal? --BrainyQuote.com
(Who, consequently, was never called an asshole.
Not like you) --Brainyqote.com

Fixed - thanks.
166  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 16, 2016, 03:41:45 AM
Did you see my earlier post on the topic that I linked for ease of reference?

No. I pretty much ignore anything you have to say.

It's unfortunate. I'm sure sometimes you say something worth reading, but I've done the calculations; the massive amount of meaningless text that you spew is simply not worth the time to read.

Now here's an opportunity for some non-contentious consensus.

"Brevity is the soul of wit." - William Shakespeare
167  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 16, 2016, 03:36:59 AM
Did you see my earlier post on the topic that I linked for ease of reference?

No. I pretty much ignore anything you have to say.

It's unfortunate. I'm sure sometimes you say something worth reading, but I've done the calculations; the massive amount of meaningless text that you spew is simply not worth the time to read.

168  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 16, 2016, 03:09:30 AM
Have any of you actually listened to the Gavin interview?

https://letstalkbitcoin.com/blog/post/lets-talk-bitcoin-282-bitcoin-classic-with-gavin-andresen

First question was about national security letter, which of course he could not answer, second question?

"When were you co-opted and why are you trying to destroy bitcoin?"

Answer: (after 10 seconds of maniacal laughter and umming and awing) a couple years ago, and yes, I've stopped beating my wife.  <- making the question seem ridiculous is a common tactic for answering a question that incriminates you without lying. Anyone who was not compromised would simply and indignantly say "I am not compromised and I'm not trying to destroy bitcoin." But he doesn't, he admits to being compromised and then tries to imply the question is ridiculous so that, by association, his answer will also be considered ridiculous.


By his own words, he is compromised. It should have been obvious the minute he started advocating for 8GB blocks, but some of you are still oblivious.

Just listen to it, it's in the first two minutes of the show.



I listened to the whole show, including the first couple of minutes as you described.

I also made a posting about Gavin.

Here:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg13896428#msg13896428


Ultimately I agree with your conclusion that Gavin his not coming off as trustworthy; however, those first couple minutes are not a true indication of anything except that the question was a kind of attempt at a joke in which the moderators were mocking various claims made within the bitcoin community.  Maybe Gavin did not know that the question was coming, but it was clear that everyone knew it as a softball set of question.. to start out in kind of fun and to show Gavin that largely the moderators did not believe the outrageous claims against Gavin.

Anyone in the public eye in bitcoin realize that many unfair claims are thrown at persons in the public light, and so with those starting off questions they were largely empathizing with him.

I hear you about Gavin's kind of nervous laugh in the beginning and around those two questions, but since Gavin was not really being challenged, without knowing more, it would not be fitting to read too much into the initial nervous laughing in that short context.



Sure, you can assume whatever you like.

When asked a straight question, I expect a straight answer.
169  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 16, 2016, 02:31:53 AM
Seriously, Gavin was asked straight up "When were you co-opted and why are you trying to destroy bitcoin?"

Gavin answers with " a couple years ago - and yes I've stopped beating my wife - I guess is the only appropriate answer to that."

Who the Fuck would say something like that?

So when did you become a pedophile and start raping your son, shmadz?

I am not a pedophile and I have never raped anyone.

See? How fucking difficult is it to tell the truth?

Flat denial. Just like every other sick pedo when cornered. Had your answer all figured out in advance, "as if" you knew this question was going to come up Sad

Right, because after being asked "When were you co opted" going um, hmmmm ahhh, he he, ummm for 10 seconds before answering "a couple years ago" is a much better declaration of innocence?

Thank goodness you knew I was gonna ask about your little frolic with your neighbor's boy & had your answer well rehearsed -- GG, you sick fuck, good game Roll Eyes

The truth always comes out. When someone asks "When were you co-opted?" And you answer "a couple years ago" ...
 
How can you believe that Gavin has not been coerced when he openly admits it and - to my knowledge - has never explicitly denied it?

I would be overjoyed if Gavin were not compromised, he always seemed like "one of the good guys"  -- if you could provide a link to a page where he explicitly denies any coercion I'd be grateful.
170  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 16, 2016, 02:14:38 AM
Seriously, Gavin was asked straight up "When were you co-opted and why are you trying to destroy bitcoin?"

Gavin answers with " a couple years ago - and yes I've stopped beating my wife - I guess is the only appropriate answer to that."

Who the Fuck would say something like that?

So when did you become a pedophile and start raping your son, shmadz?

I am not a pedophile and I have never raped anyone.

See? How fucking difficult is it to tell the truth?

Flat denial. Just like every other sick pedo when cornered. Had your answer all figured out in advance, "as if" you knew this question was going to come up Sad

Right, because after being asked "When were you co opted" going um, hmmmm ahhh, he he, ummm for 10 seconds before answering "a couple years ago" is a much better declaration of innocence?
171  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 16, 2016, 02:07:20 AM
Seriously, Gavin was asked straight up "When were you co-opted and why are you trying to destroy bitcoin?"

Gavin answers with " a couple years ago - and yes I've stopped beating my wife - I guess is the only appropriate answer to that."

Who the Fuck would say something like that?

So when did you become a pedophile and start raping your son, shmadz?

I am not a pedophile and I have never raped anyone.

See? How fucking difficult is it to tell the truth?
172  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 16, 2016, 02:03:41 AM
Seriously, Gavin was asked straight up "When were you co-opted and why are you trying to destroy bitcoin?"

Gavin answers with " a couple years ago - and yes I've stopped beating my wife - I guess is the only appropriate answer to that."

Who the Fuck would say something like that?

Someone asked a non-serious question gave a non-serious answer.  Gavin sounds more mentally balanced than you do.  You think the CIA and the CFR have mind control rays or something? You can't flip Gavin because he's a boring computer nerd who pays his taxes. he's boring. They have no control over a guy like that and if they did, you would see a change in his personality, and there hasn't been one. 

What was he supposed to say when invited by the CIA? Fuck off? How would that have helped us? He probably told them they could use it to pay their informants. It's what I would have said.

Ah, Billie Joe Ellen , you sir are a moron.
173  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 16, 2016, 02:00:50 AM
Have any of you actually listened to the Gavin interview?

https://letstalkbitcoin.com/blog/post/lets-talk-bitcoin-282-bitcoin-classic-with-gavin-andresen

First question was about national security letter, which of course he could not answer, second question?

"When were you co-opted and why are you trying to destroy bitcoin?"

Answer: (after 10 seconds of maniacal laughter and umming and awing) a couple years ago, and yes, I've stopped beating my wife.  <- making the question seem ridiculous is a common tactic for answering a question that incriminates you without lying. Anyone who was not compromised would simply and indignantly say "I am not compromised and I'm not trying to destroy bitcoin." But he doesn't, he admits to being compromised and then tries to imply the question is ridiculous so that, by association, his answer will also be considered ridiculous.


By his own words, he is compromised. It should have been obvious the minute he started advocating for 8GB blocks, but some of you are still oblivious.

Just listen to it, it's in the first two minutes of the show.

Nope. The question is pretty ridiculous.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loaded_question

" "Have you stopped beating your wife?" Whether the respondent answers yes or no, they will admit to having a wife and having beaten her at some time in the past. Thus, these facts are presupposed by the question, and in this case an entrapment, because it narrows the respondent to a single answer, and the fallacy of many questions has been committed.["

When asked such a question, why would you not answer with "I have never beaten my wife." Unless you have?

Also, if you truly had the best interests of bitcoin at heart, why would you propose 8GB block size?

I do not trust that snakey bastard.
174  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 16, 2016, 01:51:08 AM
Seriously, Gavin was asked straight up "When were you co-opted and why are you trying to destroy bitcoin?"

Gavin answers with " a couple years ago - and yes I've stopped beating my wife - I guess is the only appropriate answer to that."

Who the Fuck would say something like that?
175  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 16, 2016, 01:45:21 AM
Have any of you actually listened to the Gavin interview?

https://letstalkbitcoin.com/blog/post/lets-talk-bitcoin-282-bitcoin-classic-with-gavin-andresen

First question was about national security letter, which of course he could not answer, second question?

"When were you co-opted and why are you trying to destroy bitcoin?"

Answer: (after 10 seconds of maniacal laughter and umming and awing) a couple years ago, and yes, I've stopped beating my wife.  <- making the question seem ridiculous is a common tactic for answering a question that incriminates you without lying. Anyone who was not compromised would simply and indignantly say "I am not compromised and I'm not trying to destroy bitcoin." But he doesn't, he admits to being compromised and then tries to imply the question is ridiculous so that, by association, his answer will also be considered ridiculous.


By his own words, he is compromised. It should have been obvious the minute he started advocating for 8GB blocks, but some of you are still oblivious.

Just listen to it, it's in the first two minutes of the show.
176  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: February 15, 2016, 02:16:04 AM
shit bounced from 177 to 188 while i awaited confirmation and just looked and it's up again! dammit I need moar cheap!!!!

Alright, cringe, I had about 10 bitcoins sitting in Coinbase collecting dust and this Monero rise has caused me to move them into the circle.  Let's dance with some dragons. 
 
So i just picked up 4,000 more XMR (from that tasty 60 Bitcoin sell wall), fully expecting to get reamed and watch the price drop back to 110,000.  I know i'm not supposed to chase a rising price, but I figure if there was ever an asset to chase, XMR would be the one to do it. 

Jesse Livermore would often "chase a rising price" - but I think he would consider it more of a case of accumulating a position when a commodity was undervalued, and then adding to that position as it recovered in order to force overcompensation.

 He did make a point of mentioning multiple times that exiting such a position can be quite tricky... But if you expect the commodity in question to be a unit of account in the future, exiting your position might not be a concern.

177  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 14, 2016, 09:07:32 PM
Hey Jimbo! What's the good word? Any idea where this current move is going? I thought we'd be going down and sideways a bit longer. Really didn't expect this! How's the weather?

I think we're just still recovering from the panic caused by the Mike Hearn BS. We'd been above $400 for over a month before that crap.

If I had to guess at the ongoing trend, I'd say we're probably going to continue creeping slowly up, at least until the Chinese new year season is done. After that we might see a more significant movement, hopefully up.

The weather? Freaking cold. Halfway through one of the mildest Februaries on record, we get a real cold snap, -26C with a windchill of -33. Brrr. Time to put the soup pot on.

Meanwhile it's like plus 5 in Edmonton... Thanks for swapping weather with us this year!
178  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 07, 2016, 09:39:01 PM
You can't win, smallblockers. It doesn't matter who you DDoS or what other dirty tricks you pull, when the market tanks, the miners will switch to big block code.

Big Blockers Be Bonkers
179  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 31, 2016, 01:13:35 AM
I still look back at the initial transaction message that Satoshi sent with the press release about how badly the credit card industry is destroying us all. The goal first and foremost should be to beat the credit card companies. Using Bitcoin as a currency was never really part of the plan.

Interesting, you mean this initial transaction message?

 "The Times 03/Jan/2009 Chancellor on brink of second bailout for banks"

I don't read any mention of credit cards in that message at all... On the contrary, I got the feeling Satoshi was fed up with the fraudulent banking system so he created a new form of money which could not be manipulated by banks, governments, or anyone else for that matter.- - -  payment networks and the fees they charge are small potatoes when compared to the corruption and blatant criminality of the system of fiat money we are dealing with today.

The real innovation here is not a better visa or PayPal network. The important innovation is that we now have a form of money whose creation and control is transparent and auditable - which is a far cry from the money system that we have been saddled with up till now.
180  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 30, 2016, 03:14:49 PM
am so glad i trusted my instincts and bought 100 at $372.58  Cool
390 it is right now and variation upwards more than downwards.

am so glad I distrust anything from an account that was bought.

What's the matter, couldn't find anything else to do with your life?

but if it drops to $380-$385 am dumping all and do something else with my life.
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