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1161  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 17, 2014, 07:38:15 AM
Unless they are doing something fishy like front running, there absolutely had to be more buys than sells. If everyone was selling coinbase would have an excess of coins and little fiat. If everyone is buying they have extra fiat and no coins. It's a simple exchange of goods and they take a cut in both directions. You're right, most people will not be buying from coinbase until they get an official market price again.

If you have demand and you cut of supply, what generally happens to price anyways?

And don't forget that some of the people that wanted to buy off coinbase will now be moving to other places such as their bitstamp account, localbitcoins, mycelium local trades etc etc.

And coinbase will now have to buy more coins off bitstamp...adding some buying pressure.

Nice analysis.

I think that if the price remains low, the liquidity will dry up, thus forcing a price spike - Just like the last time, and the time before that, and the time before that, and the time before...
1162  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 17, 2014, 07:33:22 AM
@Adam and the poll ...

What means "short term" to you ? is that 15minutes or a day or a month ?
You definitely should specify IMO.

I can't speak for Adam but..

 short term is one day,
medium term is around 5-10 days,
and long term is anything more than one month.
1163  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 17, 2014, 07:13:32 AM
It's over. 6 hours of lower highs and lower lows. And volume is picking up in China. Angry

This. I changed my position to short at about 514 a few hours ago when we crossed trend lines... I am kicking myself for not doing it sooner. We have more to drop.

Also, buying pressure will be depressed because of Coinbase and leverage pressure will be depressed because the change of policy of Bitfinex soon to go into effect. In a nutshell... more blood, guys. Wish it wasn't so. It was nice while the party lasted.

P.S. -- Don't take my trading advice on face value. I am a Newbie. I've done ok the past few days, but am a couple percentage points down. I am a pretty smart fellar, but I am still learning the ropes a bit.

Trading bitcoin is as hard as you make it. (Not commenting on you personally, just laying this out there for anyone looking for advice.)

either buy and hold, -- or try to consistently sell high and buy low...

the former strategy has done quite well over the last three years, the latter one... has mixed results
1164  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 17, 2014, 06:57:21 AM
Consider a place that sells bitcoins "off the shelf" and runs out of BTC.  If they expect the price to fall several percentage points "soon", it is better for them to turn clients away than to buy more BTC to replenish their stock.

Conversely, if they have a stock of BTC and expect the price to rise significantly "soon",  they will be tempted to tell their customers that their stock ran out.

So, if those reports of (BTC sellers running out of stock) are true, which explanation will be the true one?


Have you seen the research on bankless ATM's?

I think you spend too much time focusing on problems rather than solutions.

1165  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 17, 2014, 06:54:09 AM
On résiste à l'invasion des armées; on ne résiste pas à l'invasion des idées.
That was before they invented television and Google and the takedown notice...


Also before Satoshi invented the internet of money...

Sorry Stolfi, you missed the bus.
1166  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 15, 2014, 04:20:05 AM
holy shit such walls at 600 on virtex  

Wow. Three equal asks totaling about a half week's average volume for Virtex.

Obviously the same person/group. I wonder who.

Most of the ethereum team is based in Canada, right?

Might make sense to cash out on virtex, I know I would.

I'm not saying it's wrong for those guys to get paid, I'm just sayin'...
1167  Economy / Speculation / Re: I am done with Bitcoin! on: August 15, 2014, 03:50:20 AM
This place is such a cult like atmosphere, mocking people who want to get out after losing a substantial amount on their initial investment. cognitive dissonance at its finest. I'm worried what it will be like when price drops into the $300s... just don't drink the kool-aid, please.

It's almost like my laptop developed smell-o-vision.... I can smell your fear.

fear is the mind killer. never have more invested in an open-source beta project than you can afford to lose, dude.

sharks can smell fear and greed a mile away.
1168  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 15, 2014, 03:30:26 AM


its our turn now!

make it count.

here comes my last 52 dollars!

fuck.

Yeah dude, I got funds incoming too, I was gonna check in to virtex to see if funds arrived and I got a stupid captcha page,

Is virtex under ddos attack? Did they get hacked? Do you get the same thing when you try to log in?

i loged in just now

no problem on my end

try clearing your browser cache and try again.

holy shit such walls at 600 on virtex  Shocked, i don't care, i'm bidding high cuz i'm pissed off now.

also good news everyone i have more then DOUBLE the fiat i thought i had.

want some?

 Wink

Thanks dude, did system reboot and everything is good once again, still a little scary that they didn't trust my machine, guess it's time for a re-format. Once a year whether it needs it or not!
1169  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 15, 2014, 03:10:43 AM


its our turn now!

make it count.

here comes my last 52 dollars!

fuck.

Yeah dude, I got funds incoming too, I was gonna check in to virtex to see if funds arrived and I got a stupid captcha page,

Is virtex under ddos attack? Did they get hacked? Do you get the same thing when you try to log in?

1170  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 03, 2014, 10:40:17 AM
... We’ve chosen Bitcoin as it is an established and widely recognised digital currency.

Always good to see more charity adoption, but I have to chuckle a bit when I read that part. First time I've ever heard bitcoin described as "an established and widely recognised digital currency."

I guess I'm just more accustomed to hearing "bitcoin: the anonymous digital currency used to buy drugs and fund terrorism"

 Grin
1171  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 02, 2014, 09:28:16 PM
Were we faked out? Daily still even looks bullish, but it feels like we're slumping again. Not looking forward to a retest of 550s..... onwards and upwards....

 Huh

Just crawling up slowly to set up for the next dump.

As someone who gets paid monthly in fiat and is still trying to accumulate more bitcoin, I'm rather fond of this behavior.

As low as possible for as long as possible, thanks.
1172  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 02, 2014, 01:17:52 AM
Petahash security is arguably excessive and a misallocation of capital.  Unfortunately BTC creates a perverse incentive.  This has been discussed ad nauseam.  The alternatives so far are unappealing or unworkable.  Alts may yet justify their existence as a class by finding a more adaptive mechanism or a superior security model.



I snipped the second paragraph cuz I couldn't understand it, but what do you think about parallel chains?

Is it possible to have a bitcoin clone running the same transaction code to run side-by-side with bitcoin but on another algorithm?

Sorry if not sense, Friday night

#Rant edit, had a moment of lucidity, but it faded

Like litecoin, but you don't make your own chain, you just take the existing chain and then listen for and include regular bitcoin transactions. When there is a discrepancy, like might happen with an attack, then at least you have some early warning, and some redundancy if it is necessary to "roll back" the Blockchain, if five or six other chains agree and only the sha256 chain differed, then maybe the consensus of miners would transfer to a consensus of chains?
1173  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 31, 2014, 11:36:05 PM
totally NSFW, i guess there is no mods around or they have completely given up on this thread.  Tongue

LOL!

Dude!

You ARE the mod on this thread!

Best mod I've ever seen by the way
1174  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 31, 2014, 02:02:07 AM
rant about BitLicense

BitLicense is a good example of just how fucked up everything is

Ben Lawsky said he would not over regulate, he said they would be very minimal rules even less then current AML laws. to make sure NOT to stifle innovation, he must of said "NOT stifle innovation" at least 21 million times. and now people are talking about how it might necessary to just not service NY customers, because of his proposed laws. lol.

I can only hope some of it gets rewriten, but still, I'd like to thank Mr Lawsky, for being such a prime example why no one should trust a word this goverment says. not a word, never.

USA, you've totaly let the whole world down. for a time we looked up to you, because you valued freedom as priceless, oh you still talk the talk.... but its all fucking lies.

SUCH A SHAME!

bitcoin is the new beacon of hope and freedom!

Answer is simple,

Antarctic ice shelf will slide into the ocean and we won't need to worry about new York legislation Huh
1175  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 31, 2014, 01:50:50 AM
It seems to be all manipulation attempts with no panic selling. To do it right you need to have fake bad news and then dump to create panic and buy in cheaper. You don't just sell for the fuck of it. Silly manipulator.

It kinda looks like a bottom
It kinda smells like a bottom

Why am I not convinced this is the bottom?
1176  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 31, 2014, 01:26:30 AM
When price is going down is always best time for this song...

http://youtu.be/WMQg546agpU

Feel free to dump, I'm still buying.
1177  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 31, 2014, 01:03:45 AM
If you'd bother to actually read the article, you'd see that it's precisely arbitrage that is a major factor why a system consisting of unbanked ATMs would be a superior pricing mechanism.
Yeah, seems I scrolled past that section, sorry. "TL;DR"  Undecided

I just had to quote this as a cruel reminder of futility...

But I have to agree with Erin Eris, that ATM article was excellent and the idea should be put to experiment as soon as possible.



1178  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 30, 2014, 01:55:08 AM
550 is a pipe dream

monkeys across the globe are waking at the thought

its not going to happen people....

I get the same feel, price is going up.

so why do I feel compelled to do this?

My open trades
Created   Buy/Sell   Amount   Rate   Value   Status   Cancel
July 29, 2014, 7:36 p.m.   Buy   0.2000/0.2000 BTC   612.00000 CAD   122.40 CAD   Open   

July 29, 2014, 7:27 p.m.   Buy   0.1000/0.1000 BTC   626.00000 CAD   62.60 CAD   Open   

July 28, 2014, 12:48 p.m.   Buy   0.4000/0.4000 BTC   616.00000 CAD   246.40 CAD   Open   

July 28, 2014, 12:48 p.m.   Buy   0.0257/0.2000 BTC   621.10000 CAD   15.96 CAD   Open   


One already got chomped nicely but due to time constraints I didn't catch my original 612 bid, but it's back now.

ding! ding! ding! dinner's ready! come and get it!!!

(lol, I'm such a whale Wink

I'd be buying here too, but I acted too quickly, and spent all my fiat weeks ago at ~636

yeah, I got cleaned out on the last dip to 450 at around 500, now I just throw the leftovers of my slave wages on some low bids and hope they get filled.
1179  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 30, 2014, 01:42:15 AM
550 is a pipe dream

monkeys across the globe are waking at the thought

its not going to happen people....

I get the same feel, price is going up.

so why do I feel compelled to do stupid things like place low ball bids?

I think I'm still buying *with my throw-away cash* until around 800 CAD.

anyone who wants to sell, I'll take your 0.2 btc at this price and laugh all the way to the bank!

hahaha, ding! ding! ding! dinner's ready! come and get it!!!

(lol, I'm such a whale Wink
1180  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 29, 2014, 04:06:47 AM
other threads still think we are heading down, hahaha we are one step ahead!
I don't think we can go down very far. Looks like support above 7777 is holding.

As long as we don't dump our posts and HODL.  7777 support should hold

A crash to 7776 is imminent. Support dwindling  Cry

That page dumping theme has run out of steam... ADMIT IT!!!!!!      Tongue

We'll all remember it fondly as The Great Page 7777 Pump n Pump of 2014.  Sigh....   The good ol days.  Tongue

Confirmed.

Now we're fondly remembering the summer of 2012, when you could still buy a bitcoin for less than 6 bucks.

In summer 2016 - the price will be languishing somewhere just below 60,000 after a tremendous bubble that reached almost 120,000 in 2015 and we'll be fondly remembering the summer of 2014, when you could still buy a bitcoin for less than 600 bucks.

Cool
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