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1681  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 18, 2018, 09:21:36 PM
Also, since I'm not from the US I'm not fully aware of what is going on in that first world shithole. But wasn't California the same place that talked about cutting itself off from the rest of the US and become independent when Trump took office?
It's the most leftist state out of the bunch, to my understanding.
That would just further drive the nail into the coffin. Hopefully the firing of that Google Engineer sparked the beginning of a shift. It's hard to watch what I used to believe in (Google - which to me used to mean neutral discourse of all the human mind has to offer) to be such a dishonest and politicized shithole. I'm so fucking happy that I decided against working with them and going the academia route instead before setting foot in the industry.
1682  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 18, 2018, 09:15:37 PM
The average alt-right is an angry, unemployed, single white male.  So a bit hard for them to have polyamorous relationships when they are incapable of having any relationship.
"More than one-quarter of the total homeless population nationwide lives in California, roughly 114,000. "

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/21/us/california-today-states-homeless-population-drives-national-increase.html

State with roughly 50% more Democrats than Republicans. So your comment doesn't seem to hold under scrutiny.

You planning on being homeless in Fargo or San Diego?  Choose one.  
I don't know what either of those places look like. And it has no bearing on the argument. You've made a remark, and I've demonstrated it to be false.
1683  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 18, 2018, 09:15:00 PM
Also, since I'm not from the US I'm not fully aware of what is going on in that first world shithole. But wasn't California the same place that talked about cutting itself off from the rest of the US and become independent when Trump took office?
1684  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 18, 2018, 09:13:23 PM
The average alt-right is an angry, unemployed, single white male.  So a bit hard for them to have polyamorous relationships when they are incapable of having any relationship.
"More than one-quarter of the total homeless population nationwide lives in California, roughly 114,000. "

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/21/us/california-today-states-homeless-population-drives-national-increase.html

State with roughly 50% more Democrats than Republicans. So your comment doesn't seem to hold under scrutiny.
1685  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 18, 2018, 09:06:59 PM

Keep in mind the kids come first.  Everyone else comes second.

That means that making the kids suffer because the mother slept around is the wrong answer.
And that's why they should be taken away from the mother. Her lack of responsibility will cause long lasting damage to her children as opposed to short lived grief. It's not like they can't see her whatsoever, and it's certainly not like they can't go live with her once they're of legal age. So there's no reason to risk further damage by having an irresponsible twat raise those kids. And since we're on a Bitcoin forum here, I'm sure we all know where the dice fall in terms of short versus long.

And as far as child support goes. No. Not everyone else comes second. He did not father the boys so he should not be forced to pay for them. That's called theft. No matter how hard you try to reason it away.

Sure, giant foster homes...that has worked good in the past and other countries today (not) ... see how well that worked in the 20's and 30's ... taking kids away from unwed mothers


There's a difference between unwed mothers and pathological liars and cheaters. And having the latter raise a child is on average going to produce more pathological liars and cheaters.
1686  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 18, 2018, 09:05:04 PM
Insulting someone is a full-fledged speech act. It requires nothing from the subject. Insults come unpacked upon delivery. That said, it's a word only a gAlt-Right twat would use.
Innit, Bob?

If said word is "cuck", then no, I would not claim it's a word the alt-right "twats" would exclusively use.

Amusing perspective, though. Most of the IRL cuckolds I have been made aware of, swing liberal.
The "altright" (or whatever on YT) seems to like to use the word. But yes, I've noticed it being mostly the SJW type person that is into whoring around, or as they like to call it "polyarmory". Heck, there was some article that claimed that cuckoldry is a positive thing for a relationship. I guess they've never heard of communication, or at least toys. I expect a lot of midlife crisis and late-life depression as they look back on their lives a few decades from now. The easy way out never goes well after all.
1687  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 18, 2018, 09:00:43 PM
Family is what matters. I am the most important part of my family, and everyone is almost as important. Those brats fathered by someone else? Not family. The cheating whore who lied to me and tricked me into spending money and effort raising some bastard spawn? Negative fucking family. She deserves to suffer, and the other kids deserve their real father.

If you don't take care of yourself first (nobody else will) then you will not be of much use to the others for long.  Self first IS the long view.  Take responsibility for your own actions.  Set an example.
Would merit, but ran out. So QFT instead.
1688  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 18, 2018, 08:46:06 PM

Keep in mind the kids come first.  Everyone else comes second.

That means that making the kids suffer because the mother slept around is the wrong answer.
And that's why they should be taken away from the mother. Her lack of responsibility will cause long lasting damage to her children as opposed to short lived grief. It's not like they can't see her whatsoever, and it's certainly not like they can't go live with her once they're of legal age. So there's no reason to risk further damage by having an irresponsible twat raise those kids. And since we're on a Bitcoin forum here, I'm sure we all know where the dice fall in terms of short versus long.

And as far as child support goes. No. Not everyone else comes second. He did not father the boys so he should not be forced to pay for them. That's called theft. No matter how hard you try to reason it away.
1689  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 18, 2018, 08:38:25 PM
Try to see it from the judges perspective.  There are 4 kids which need to be raised.  That takes money. Let’s assume the wife can’t work because the kids are too little and there’s too many of them.  

The judge’s primary job is to make sure the kids are looked after.  Everyone else can stand in line.

The daughter is his - he has to pay child support for her. The sons, well he says he loves them and has raised them as his own.  But he comes into court waving a piece of paper (which could be forged for all the judge knows) and flapping his gums about how this is his get out of jail free card and now he doesn’t have to pay any money to raise his sons hahahahahaha.  

The judge doesn’t give a fuck about a piece of paper.  He knows that if he orders child support for only the daughter, that’s not enough money and probably all 5 of them (mother, daughter, three sons) will either be homeless or destitute.  So he orders child support for all four kids.

The husband goes on a massive media campaign because MUH RIGHTS.  He kicks up a national fuss. Does the husband give a shit about the kids?  No he doesn’t.  He only cares about MUH RIGHTS.

So the kids are now the center of a national media firestorm.  They are probably getting picked on at school.  So the judge uses the only tool in his toolkit and revokes access, because it’s obvious the hunsbad doesn’t give a fuck about the kids either, he just wants to be flow first class to New York to talk to Howard Stern about MUH RIGHTS.

I expect I am wasting my breath in here but there you go.  

The mother should be homeless if she can't fend for herself at this point. And the kids should be taken into custody.

The mother has already made it perfectly clear that she is not mentally capable of taking responsibility for her own actions, which indicates that she doesn't have the capacity of taking reseponsibility for raising children either. Allowing the kids to stay with that person will just increase the likelihood of such events repeating in the future.
And forcing the "father" to pay increases the chances of other women cheating on men while still extorting money out of them for kids that are not theirs. So setting such a precedent is wholly irresponsible by the judge and an abuse of power (to the detriment of society as a whole).
1690  Other / Off-topic / Re: Athene is at it again, bringing more shitcoins on: February 18, 2018, 08:26:22 PM
I'm not really worried about people who would fall for such obvious scams being put off in the short term. They're not really relevant to the growth anyways and will come crawling back once it becomes inevitable anyways. And with decentralized platforms it's just a matter of time until streamers, youtubers and artists start getting the bulk of their "tips" through cryptos. Some will eventually start giving out extra content to those that donate in cryptos instead of using Patreon or similar services. And we all know why that will be the case too.

Everyone is important to an economy.
They're being good consumers. Getting paychecks, and spending them. While completely idiotic from an individual point of view, they're doing a service to the overall Economy even if they get scammed. The money stays in circulation and keeps the gears grinding.

But regardless, in this specific case (which is just a tiny drop in the ocean of the global Economy) they don't really matter all that much. Smart money will come flowing in anyways. Stupid money always follows. That's just how things work. Fortunately we live in a world where people can freely choose to which group they belong to.
1691  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ANN [MCO] MONACO #1 Cryptocurrency Payments Card on: February 18, 2018, 08:21:51 PM
I am now hearing July for Singapore card release following the beta batch from a little bird that tweeted into my ear. Can this be true? Is it possible? July?
Based on the latest Q&A that's false.
1692  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 18, 2018, 07:53:44 PM
...that's assuming that the one in ten figure is correct in the first place (which I wouldn't be surprised by because most people are impulsive twats that don't have zero self-control).

The one in ten figure was for middle class people. They found it could be as high as one in three for working class people, but I can't remember who gathered the statistics.

  My brother's wife's sitster's boyfriend knows a guy in university who claims to be doing a study indicating that NOBODY can be fathered by other than the real FATHER and that number is actually FIVE TIMES greater in Iceland.

  Come on guys at least post some sources for your bullshit.
 

I did somw googling and other studies dispute this, but ...

https://canadiancrc.com/Newspaper_Articles/Globe_and_Mail_Moms_Little_secret_14DEC02.aspx

Quote
In the early 1970s, a schoolteacher in southern England assigned a class science project in which his students were to find out the blood types of their parents. The students were then to use this information to deduce their own blood types (because a gene from each parent determines your blood type, in most instances only a certain number of combinations are possible). Instead, 30 per cent of the students discovered their dads were not their biologically fathers.

"The classroom was, of course, not the ideal place to find out this information," said Prof. Dickens, who is often consulted on ethical issues by geneticists at the Hospital for Sick Children.


Also there's the strange, but true story of twins with different biological fathers.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2016/03/09/twins-with-different-fathers_n_9416074.html

 Thanks.  I read the first link and this guys takes the cake.

In March, 1999, the results arrived by mail -- a creased piece of paper telling him that not one of the three boys was his.

"I felt anger toward [my first wife] and sadness, and I felt so sorry for my kids," Mr. Wise recalled. "I told my boys, 'I love you all, you'll always be my sons, the only difference is now I'm not your birth father.' "

Despite this revelation, a district court judge ruled that Mr. Wise had to continue paying child support for the three boys. Based on a 500-year-old common law, most states operate on the presumption that a husband is the father of any child born to his wife during a marriage.

Mr. Wise took his case to the media, hoping to generate political support and contact other men in a similar situation. Instead, he angered the judge, who revoked his visitation rights to the children but left him responsible for $1,100 (U.S.) in monthly support.

"This," Mr. Wise warned, "could happen to anyone."


 Over a 13 year marriage they had three boys and one girl...  I think that guy was working way too much overtime.



That judge needs lifetime in jail for making a joke out of the justice system.
1693  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 18, 2018, 07:23:54 PM
I'm saying, cuckoldry is not traditional, or normal behavior, that lends itself towards building a strong nuclear family unit.
I read somewhere that over one in ten people have a father who's not their real father. Cuckoldry seems quite common but surreptitious.

Don't confuse cuckoldry with cheating.
Isn't cuckoldry cheating with a resulting pregnancy?

LOL  .. you digiging own .. but if somebody pump whole cryptoworld with 500 billions

Am I supposed to be taking anything away from your post other than incoherent babbling?

No, no.  You really can't take that away from him...
I'm sorry. Sad
1694  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 18, 2018, 07:10:47 PM


I'm saying, cuckoldry is not traditional, or normal behavior, that lends itself towards building a strong nuclear family unit.


I read somewhere that over one in ten people have a father who's not their real father. Cuckoldry seems quite common but surreptitious.
I'm not sure I would call 10% common. And among those 10% there could be any number of children whose father died or just ran away, which would increase the likelihood of an adoptive father. And that's assuming that the one in ten figure is correct in the first place (which I wouldn't be surprised by because most people are impulsive twats that don't have zero self-control).
1695  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 18, 2018, 06:43:49 PM
also, I never regarded my partners as property, so really I just don't get it as an insult

Well, I mean, if you enjoy watching your devoted partner being fucked by someone else, then I guess you wouldn't see it as an insult...
If my devoted partner was being fucked by someone else I'd kick them the hell out of my house and not really care about the insult, as I'd be happy to have parted with such a piece of shit of a human being.
1696  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: BTC is dead. The plan is a shift to Bitcoin Cash. on: February 18, 2018, 06:42:29 PM
In any case, it is worth agreeing that in bitcoin there are huge problems with scalability, as a result of which it continues to lose its popularity. These problems exist for a long time and they have not been solved yet. In itself, this problem can not be solved. Therefore, it is necessary either to eliminate the shortcomings, or to switch to the use of another coin type bitcoin cash.
What are you talking about? The problems can be and are being solved. SW and LN are just the first steps. Smart contracts are being developed and more efficient solutions will be found as time goes by.
1697  Other / Off-topic / Re: Athene is at it again, bringing more shitcoins on: February 18, 2018, 06:41:23 PM
I'm not really worried about people who would fall for such obvious scams being put off in the short term. They're not really relevant to the growth anyways and will come crawling back once it becomes inevitable anyways. And with decentralized platforms it's just a matter of time until streamers, youtubers and artists start getting the bulk of their "tips" through cryptos. Some will eventually start giving out extra content to those that donate in cryptos instead of using Patreon or similar services. And we all know why that will be the case too.
1698  Other / Off-topic / Re: Athene is at it again, bringing more shitcoins on: February 18, 2018, 06:16:39 PM
After watching his stream clips, the new coin is definitely a scam in every meaning of the word. But still, it's so obvious that anybody who buys into it just had it coming.

It is insane that people are backing him. If you conspire to kill someone and write down the plan, you go to jail. He asks people to make an investment, gives them the real address to send money too, and says they can 50x his money. I don't think it is a joke, but if it is he is still scamming.
I'm not backing him. He's a scumbag. But you'd have to be seriously mentally challenged to see an investment in that guy's shitcoins. And I don't believe in bailing people who are too lazy to do proper research out of their own stupidity. They won't learn if they don't reap the negative effects of their own seed.
1699  Other / Off-topic / Re: Athene is at it again, bringing more shitcoins on: February 18, 2018, 06:04:24 PM
After watching his stream clips, the new coin is definitely a scam in every meaning of the word. But still, it's so obvious that anybody who buys into it just had it coming.
1700  Other / Off-topic / Re: Athene is at it again, bringing more shitcoins on: February 18, 2018, 05:58:59 PM
I'm not sure about his new coins, but the first two that he had were so obviously worthless that it's hard for me to call it a scam.

Shady? Sure.

But anybody who sends money to something that calls itself a scam deserves losing every last cent.
The same is true for BCC "investors". The warnings are easy to find. Even if you're not mentally capable of identifying such red flags yourself, a quick Google search will bring up the facts.

If people are too greedy and impulsive to properly research something before throwing money at it, they deserve getting burnt over and over until they learn to use their brain. We developed those things for a reason.
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