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1041  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 03, 2018, 04:48:06 PM
Capitulation is definitely in, every post is that crypto is going down and nothing can stop it. Coindesk is declaring it crypto winter and we need to wuick looking at the price. People are memeing that Bitcoin is just a downward ride.

It's here and we may have already hit bottom or not but we're fucking close with that continuous Doom and gloom mindset.

We won't have capitulated until we stop talking about capitulation. We won't have bottommed until we stop talking about bottoms.
Which includes bottom pictures?  Sad
That's what I'm here for, I followed booty pictures on Google images and accidentally ended up being invested into crypto and stressing about price on the daily.
Was about to send my last sMerit, but I'll save it for some non-Legendary. 11/10 though.
1042  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 03, 2018, 04:44:07 PM
Most males are jealous of these rich playboys that have sluts lining up to fuck them.

These guys say they prefer true love and such but they are really just jealous they aren't in their shoes.
I've turned down a solid number of females because I just simply didn't care for them. True love is a myth, but putting effort into one single partner is not.

In reference to your post about happiness (or lack thereof) due to iPhones and whatnot. If you don't put your all into whatever aspects of life you choose you won't be happy, period. Easy sex can be taking the easy way out and lead to depression just like anything else.

Basically, whatever your ideals are, if you try to shortcut your way into them you'll be much more likely to be miserable. And we live in a world in which instant gratification is so easily obtainable that people have become complacent and thus become more depressed on average.
1043  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 03, 2018, 04:41:13 PM

C'on Ibian, we have never in history lived better than we do for the past few decades. Or can you point out any moment in time you would have better preferred to live?

this depends entirely on the metrics you measure your quality of life with.  Also, as always, social class has a great influence.

I think I would be perfectly happy as a petty aristocrat in Roman Britain for example.  For many, a life in a clean and abundant environment with actual unclaimed wonder over the horizon would be far preferable to today's dystopian prison web of interstate highways, satellites and "social media".
If you don't see the horizon beyond which an infinite amount of unclaimed wonders can be found you should study more. I'm overwhelmed with the amount of shit that I would like to know and experience.
1044  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 03, 2018, 04:33:15 PM
why to sell new money for old money - the mind boggles  Huh Undecided

people don't sell, do this only manipulators
People definitely sell, the goal is end with more than you started and without trading ever you only have hope and timing on when you spend.
I trade, but with a small fraction of my hodl stash. There's certainly more money to be made in trading than in hodling, but it's not an easy path at all and in most cases one is best advised to not try to play the market game.

I love the challenge though and appreciate all the things that I learn in a roundabout way by trying to improve my trading skills. Regardless of whether or not it pays financially.
1045  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 03, 2018, 04:29:22 PM
as if 90% of us wouldn't behave the same way given the opportunity

Fuck no we absolutely would not post that shit to social media with our personal brands splashed across it
Fucking whores and bitches is the equivalent of picking a basket of shitcoins over the one true Bitcorn.

Your analogy is lost on me.
You have a great time jizzing a load of money away on nothing important. Occasionally you get a freebie or build up an affiliation. Your one twu luv is unaffected except that you might build up your skills and not make the same mistakes there.

Thanks. I guess my frame of reference was off, as I think twu luvs and soulmates are fictional.

I see nothing wrong with a rich guy blowing his money on whores for his entire life, if he wants. It seemed to have worked out well for Hef.
I do believe that they are. But that doesn't mean that you can't invest the same amount of resources into a relationship as you do into assets or life skills.

For reference, I don't see anything wrong with that lifestyle either. I just prefer treating every aspect of my life roughly the same, which is giving it my all if I actually bother to pursue at all.
1046  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 03, 2018, 04:25:31 PM
as if 90% of us wouldn't behave the same way given the opportunity

Fuck no we absolutely would not post that shit to social media with our personal brands splashed across it
Fucking whores and bitches is the equivalent of picking a basket of shitcoins over the one true Bitcorn.

Your analogy is lost on me.
I prefer monogamy, given a proper candidate, over fucking around. Trading shitcoins can be nice and all, but at the end I would prefer a decent partner and family. YMMV
1047  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 03, 2018, 04:19:32 PM
My one hope for crypto is that a big fat fish like amazon starts taking crypto as payment.. What we all really want. Is for Bitcoin to become the one and ONLY worldwide currency!

Why do you think that if people had the option to pay for things on Amazon with bitcoins that they would?

Would you?
Yes. Because I'd keep less in fiat due to ease of conversion despite the volatility.
1048  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 03, 2018, 04:13:25 PM
I start to think that maybe we, humans, set ourselves on some kind of a suicide path.

I don't want to sound like Ibian, but we probably have headed our boat for catastrophe. Not much we can do now though. May as well enjoy Rome before it burns.
I don't understand what makes people subscribe to this narrative. What makes you think that we're heading for disaster when just about everything has been getting better on average for the past however many decades?

I'm more worried about a meteor smashing earth than humans fucking anything up before someone banking on a solution for whatever problem. And I'm not really worried at all.
http://people.uncw.edu/kozloffm/glubb.pdf

History repeats. It's much like the seasons, every time is different but the overall pattern remains. Things are shit, people make them better, then things turn to shit again. And the longer peace and prosperity reigns, the harder the fall.

All the signs are there. It will likely be a soviet style collapse, but this time on a large scale.

C'on Ibian, we have never in history lived better than we do for the past few decades. Or can you point out any moment in time you would have better preferred to live?
Which part didn't you understand? The better things are and the longer it goes on the worse it will be when it all ends.

As BITCOINMILLIONAIRE said, even if we were on the verge of an implosion/collapse, we would still end better than we were a few decades ago. It's not like we are going to go back to stone age.
Do you understand what a soviet style collapse implies?

Stalin, 50 million dead. Mao, even more, maybe as high as 100 million. Cambodia, a full third of the population died. And on and on. Two hundred million corpses give or take.

The EU wants an army, and at this rate they will get it. It will be used against the civilian population, just as the above gentlemen did.

Thousands of migrants are heading to the US border. They will be gunned down if they try to cross, or more will come, and it will never stop. In europe they are already here and entrenched. EU wants to make criticism of immigration illegal, and again, it will likely happen.

And of course we all know how the economy is doing.

If the US ends up losing its global leadership position, that will lead to chaos on a global scale as the power vacuum is filled by someone else.

It's a perfect storm of all the things that can go wrong all at once, and there are no positives of any meaningful impact.
The economy is doing fantastic. All those numbers are pretty irrelevant. Fact is, we have shit that kings a few decades ago couldn't have dreamed of. And at prices so low that even the lowest of plebs can afford them.

The probability of another soviet style collapse taking place in the west is also very low, much more so if you'd insist on a collapse of the entire western world simultaneously. Hence, in the worst case event that you imply there's room to relocate for anyone who prepared accordingly and then some.
1049  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 03, 2018, 04:06:23 PM
I start to think that maybe we, humans, set ourselves on some kind of a suicide path.

I don't want to sound like Ibian, but we probably have headed our boat for catastrophe. Not much we can do now though. May as well enjoy Rome before it burns.
I don't understand what makes people subscribe to this narrative. What makes you think that we're heading for disaster when just about everything has been getting better on average for the past however many decades?

I'm more worried about a meteor smashing earth than humans fucking anything up before someone banking on a solution for whatever problem. And I'm not really worried at all.
http://people.uncw.edu/kozloffm/glubb.pdf

History repeats. It's much like the seasons, every time is different but the overall pattern remains. Things are shit, people make them better, then things turn to shit again. And the longer peace and prosperity reigns, the harder the fall.

All the signs are there. It will likely be a soviet style collapse, but this time on a large scale.

C'on Ibian, we have never in history lived better than we do for the past few decades. Or can you point out any moment in time you would have better preferred to live?
Which part didn't you understand? The better things are and the longer it goes on the worse it will be when it all ends.
I understand what you're saying, but I'm not aware of a single case in which that stroke true.

Civilizations that imploded generally didn't just up and vanish, they became part of a civilization under a different name. Generally ones that start off better than the imploded generation did, with a higher peak of prosperity than the one before.

If humanity doesn't get instantly wiped out I'll just use what I worked for to relocate and not run into any of the problems you mention, as did others before me for quite literally all of human history.
1050  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 03, 2018, 10:20:42 AM
Data/information is only as good as its source. Highest level being 15, not bullish. Edit: Bitcoin Cash has a "16". 

Bitcoin SV? 100.

#justsayin'

Actually only 86 currently...was 100 2 weeks ago.

No. The term is not bitcoin+cash+sv, it is bitcoin+sv. And it is trending currently at 100.

Even if it were 86, you are still making my point for me.
Wasn't the last Coingeek conference proof enough that BCash SV is all about the establishment taking control? "It's time for Bitcoin to grow up" - Coingeek shills.

Technical debates aside, it's obvious that BCash SV doesn't align with the interests of the people.
1051  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 03, 2018, 10:18:19 AM
I start to think that maybe we, humans, set ourselves on some kind of a suicide path.

I don't want to sound like Ibian, but we probably have headed our boat for catastrophe. Not much we can do now though. May as well enjoy Rome before it burns.
I don't understand what makes people subscribe to this narrative. What makes you think that we're heading for disaster when just about everything has been getting better on average for the past however many decades?

I'm more worried about a meteor smashing earth than humans fucking anything up before someone banking on a solution for whatever problem. And I'm not really worried at all.
http://people.uncw.edu/kozloffm/glubb.pdf

History repeats. It's much like the seasons, every time is different but the overall pattern remains. Things are shit, people make them better, then things turn to shit again. And the longer peace and prosperity reigns, the harder the fall.

All the signs are there. It will likely be a soviet style collapse, but this time on a large scale.
That cycle is equivalent to what Bitcorn is doing. Things get really great, then implode to a level higher than anything before. Rinse and repeat. Sure we might drop from our ATHs (if even), but we're still on an upward slope.
1052  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 03, 2018, 10:16:57 AM
Banks in general have always made the most of their profit by interest on lending. Before the crisis, they started giving mortgages to everyone and their mother without any due diligence.... then the defaults came so instead of profit for every mortgage they got loses. Now they are way more careful on lending money, which basically means they are not "selling" their main product. The future looks dark for them.

I remember the time (before the nineties) when if someone wanted a home he had to pay upfront a good amount to the builder, and then go on paying monthly way before the house was even finished building. No mortages bullshit. Banks were not such a big deal. HOusing prices were low as shit.

All the fucking problem of the last decades has been because of lending money to the plebs. That made them think they were "rich" when they weren't. And banks "banked" like bandits on that stupid feeling.

If you borrow money because you don't have it, then you will always stay poor. Only borrow money when you are leveraging for a biggest (safe) return. If you are poor you should be saving instead of borrowing.

People that really "needs" the money, should never, ever borrow the money.

Enough rant.... I am open for criticism.
When I was a student I invested large parts of my student loan, but my professional path has been more or less laid out thanks to long planning (knew before 18 that I wanted to be able to retire around 30-40) so I knew in what proportion I could put loans at stake without destroying myself in any worst case scenario. I made sure to have exceptional grades in a highly sought after field though, so the probability of me failing along the way were virtually negligible and the cost of default was zero (e.g. no job = exemption from repaying the loan without any downsides on my part). In that situation not taking the risk and potentially fixing an error of judgement down the path would've been irrational.

I've seen other plebs do the same (with non-student loans) from a much worse starting position implode though, so you're certainly right. Most people don't know how to manage risk and just go a path of blind faith and there are tons of predatory types just waiting to prey on them.

Either way, the banks are just filling a niche. The real problem are all the idiots who are waiting for the stars to magically align instead of taking their life into their own hands. And the absolute worst are the very same idiots who channel their energy into nagging governments to bend them backwards by legalizing a billion fucking pronouns for idiots who can't just be honest and say that they either always or sometimes prefer dick. Like a bunch of toddlers telling on their siblings instead of learning how not to be a helpless retard.
1053  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 03, 2018, 09:30:01 AM

imagine that 128 moths would be terrible long F*** who would even make up such a meme Roll Eyes

https://twitter.com/LordCatoshi/status/1069319697550725121

what some guys make up Roll Eyes fun to watch ...^
Check the 10 year chart on Deutsche Bank's stock:

https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/DB/deutsche-bank-aktiengesellschaft/stock-price-history

Can’t compare BTC with a filthy bank though....

We are going to the moon and beyond while those banks are in for doom and deeper Roll Eyes
I just wanted to use the opportunity of showing off a 10 year bear market as an excuse to make fun of DB. They're fucking twats and will hopefully implode like Lehman Brothers did.
1054  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 03, 2018, 08:39:56 AM
as if 90% of us wouldn't behave the same way given the opportunity

Fuck no we absolutely would not post that shit to social media with our personal brands splashed across it
Fucking whores and bitches is the equivalent of picking a basket of shitcoins over the one true Bitcorn.
1055  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 03, 2018, 08:28:32 AM

imagine that 128 moths would be terrible long F*** who would even make up such a meme Roll Eyes

https://twitter.com/LordCatoshi/status/1069319697550725121

what some guys make up Roll Eyes fun to watch ...^
Check the 10 year chart on Deutsche Bank's stock:

https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/DB/deutsche-bank-aktiengesellschaft/stock-price-history
1056  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 03, 2018, 08:24:02 AM
I start to think that maybe we, humans, set ourselves on some kind of a suicide path.

I don't want to sound like Ibian, but we probably have headed our boat for catastrophe. Not much we can do now though. May as well enjoy Rome before it burns.
I don't understand what makes people subscribe to this narrative. What makes you think that we're heading for disaster when just about everything has been getting better on average for the past however many decades?

I'm more worried about a meteor smashing earth than humans fucking anything up before someone banking on a solution for whatever problem. And I'm not really worried at all.
1057  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 03, 2018, 08:17:20 AM
He called the bottom at $10k.

He called the bottom at $6k.

He called the bottom at $3.5k.

Eventually he will be right. 
Bottom is $0. Bitcorn was worth nothing a few years ago. I'm the greatest guru mankind has ever seen.
1058  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 02, 2018, 07:27:58 PM

I'm not even going to be surprised when the very same "managers" end up starting another fund in a few months from now rather than having their reputation annihilated and becoming obsolete to anyone and everyone.
1059  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 02, 2018, 06:46:40 PM
Good morning guys.

Looks like a quiet Sunday is developing as Bulls and Bears pause to regain strength after a mild Saturday trading session. I would even go so far as to say there might be a buy the dip opportunity but I am remaining cautious of how much of a rebound we will see. With somewhat positive news coming from the G20 summit in Argentina about a 90 day calming period over US/China trade sanctions I believe legacy markets will see a recovery this coming week. This could lead to increased speculation which will bring volatility back in to play.


The same resistance/support area's are still $4.220k/$3.772k   Breaking thru either direction is going to take some work and will bring a clearer signal to the market.  


Don't you think if the weekly candle closes around this level ($4K+) in a few hours that would be a bullish signal in itself?
By that logic we would've been in a bull market since 6k. So no, I don't think closing around this level is necessarily bullish.

We've also been descending for the past few days since the last high (~4400) and 2h/4h/6h/12h charts look bearish more than anything. Can see either another drop, or a reversal that could be followed by either another drop or the beginning of the next bull market. In either case, a lot of people are going to get rekt trying to trade this.
1060  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 30, 2018, 08:41:04 PM
Just merited a quote instead of the original.

You guys look all the same with that hats.

 ?? These hats are more unique than a Bitcoin address.



I will wear mine when this signature campaign I’m in ends. I sort of want to wear it now & wave the pay from the campaign but I’ll wait until it ends Grin

LFC hat will be worn early New Year!

Will this hat fad last until the new year?  you could become a late adopter, perhaps?
What the fuck do you mean "fad"?

A fad is like a trend/fashion that passes. Kind of like a haircut or sneakers that aren’t cool for long
I'm not sure if you're trying to whoosh me or not.
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