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901  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 14, 2018, 01:03:05 PM
Triple post inc. I've been printing money with altcoins the past few days, this very well may be the precursor for the next Bitcorn bull-run. The more alt-coins rally with Bitcorn down the more people will catch wind of what is going on and get interested in getting large amounts of Bitcorn to buy shitcoins with. Perhaps the winter won't be as long and cold as it seemed up until now.
902  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 14, 2018, 01:01:32 PM
Vat grown meat is an amazing idea and I cannae wait. There's nothing but upside. I think in the future people will regard the animal eating industry as bizarrely as we view slavery today.
It is, and that's the main reason why I find vegans retarded. Even those that are with good intentions (which I don't believe all or even most of them are) are so intellectually lazy and short-sighted that they are stunting opportunity by stamping meat as the devil instead of finding ways to get the meat that virtually everybody loves in a more ethical and economical way.
903  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 14, 2018, 12:59:32 PM
People and their feelings are irrational, to put it nicely. Once you can get meat of higher quality and lower cost than the trash served at super markets everybody will jump on it. People are always afraid of anything they don't see/understand, but once it's out in the wild adoption snowballs. Like with bikes. The internet. Or with Bitcorn.

I don't see "normal" lab meat not becoming mainstream, but I wonder if people would remain put off from human meat if the biggest deterrent (killing humans) is removed.

It seems gross to me on a more emotional/impulsive level, but rationally speaking I don't see anything speaking against it.

Actually I have always wanted to try human meat lol. There was a news story I remember about a chef in UK using human meat without the guests knowing and they seemed to like it. Maybe I have watched too much Hannibal, he seems to make some delicious human dishes tho.


I think it all depends on how it is marketed. Lab grown food sounds bad. Lets call it something better and healthy sounding.... What about.... Enhanced meat.
Yeah, it's funny how fancy words and marketing matter for the average consumer.

Yeah I agree it has to be marketed well for the masses to adopt it. I am sure they will find a way because lab grown meat seems to be the way to progress.
I'd keep a bunch of animals on my property if I could just prick them once every so often and get some delicious meat that way.

Would probably try human meat as well (under these circumstances) but not sure if the psychological factor would stop me from getting into it. When I was in Thailand I ordered a bunch of spring rolls and was surprised at their unusually sweet taste. Bit only half of one of and realized that I've been eating those white maggots or whatever they're called. Couldn't keep going after the fact, even though they were pretty delicious.
904  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 14, 2018, 11:56:01 AM
I think it all depends on how it is marketed. Lab grown food sounds bad. Lets call it something better and healthy sounding.... What about.... Enhanced meat.
Yeah, it's funny how fancy words and marketing matter for the average consumer.



On another note. I love watching BCash plummet much harder than the market.
905  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 14, 2018, 11:54:26 AM
We can already recreate human bladders, so why not grow human meat in a lab.
There are lab burgers, and the costs are plummeting. Being able to create human meat without human suffering will become inevitable. How will people react?

I don't think we will eat human meat, we will just create it for spare parts. Of course there will always be some humans that want to eat human meat. For now it's still quite expensive to create lab burgers? They will decrease a lot over time. The only problem is convincing humans to eat lab grown meat. People have a "bad feeling" around meat grown in labs. They rather slaughter animals pumped full of antibiotics and eat that shit.


People and their feelings are irrational, to put it nicely. Once you can get meat of higher quality and lower cost than the trash served at super markets everybody will jump on it. People are always afraid of anything they don't see/understand, but once it's out in the wild adoption snowballs. Like with bikes. The internet. Or with Bitcorn.

I don't see "normal" lab meat not becoming mainstream, but I wonder if people would remain put off from human meat if the biggest deterrent (killing humans) is removed.

It seems gross to me on a more emotional/impulsive level, but rationally speaking I don't see anything speaking against it.
906  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 14, 2018, 11:37:10 AM
If she died with me then they’ll be lost bitcoin’s.

Unless... you'll find some way to communicate... from out there... 

Tattoo it on your taint 

And risk the chance that you'll accidentally reward some serial killer cannibal guy? I don't think so.
What will happen to cannibalism once lab meat becomes a thing?

We can already recreate human bladders, so why not grow human meat in a lab.
There are lab burgers, and the costs are plummeting. Being able to create human meat without human suffering will become inevitable. How will people react?
907  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 14, 2018, 09:28:18 AM
If she died with me then they’ll be lost bitcoin’s.

Unless... you'll find some way to communicate... from out there... 

Tattoo it on your taint 

And risk the chance that you'll accidentally reward some serial killer cannibal guy? I don't think so.
What will happen to cannibalism once lab meat becomes a thing?
908  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 13, 2018, 07:48:16 PM

I completely agree however, we must take into consideration that many people invested last year, with a buy in much greater than ours. They could already be at a loss or close to a loss, which puts them at a very different mind set to us who, would need a far greater drop in price to be in their position.

Yeah . My mind set changed completely last week when the price reached my average and I become at loss.
Watch out for this once you're back in profit. Your mindset will do the inverse if we start mooning and that can be just as fatal as what you are experiencing right now. It just won't feel bad until it's too late.

Part of the justification for overinvesting a bit... Perhaps buying 1.2 bitcoin rather than 1 bitcoin is that you won't feel so bad to sell the extra .2BTC that you overinvested when the price goes up (that is if the price goes up).   
Yeah round numbers can be a devil in disguise.
909  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 13, 2018, 07:47:43 PM
Bitcorn is ded
910  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 13, 2018, 07:04:32 PM
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-12-13/unabashed-bitcoin-bull-thomas-lee-says-the-market-is-wrong

That's a great idea. Next time I fail on a prediction I will say the market is wrong, not me.
To be fair, it is wrong. Crypto as a whole is not trading against fundamentals.

In the case of Bitcoin that's understandable, but when it comes to credit platforms, exchanges and stuff like that you can estimate the fundamental value through time and then realize that it's vastly over- and undervalued most of the time (think stuff like BNB). That's called market inefficiency and decreasing with maturity of the market.
Right now it's fairly easy (albeit cumbersome due to high amount of shitcoin projects) to identify future winners and losers and the profit margins are absurd. As crypto matures finding these ROIs will become increasingly difficult though, and not just due to the increasing market cap and lower implied upside potential, but due to an increasing amount of value investors skimming the markets.
911  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 13, 2018, 06:07:31 PM
All this considerations about selling now will be much more useful and reasonable to have during next bull run. Someone please remember me to sell some then.


haha i will remind you, but don't sell to much of your stash

its important not to get burned when there is panic, panicselling

but also don't burn yourself with selling to fast when we are in a BULLrun....
The trick is to decide on targets before the bull run happens, then sell no more and no less at every given price level. Cost average around your chosen price targets too if you want to get fancy.
912  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 13, 2018, 05:10:01 PM
Quote
He said, “You should outlaw [crypto assets],” because many have lost savings due to the significant slump in the crypto markets. “I am personally surprised that regulators haven’t stepped in harder.”
Allianz Investors Chief.

Yeah, ban things because people are being stupid. Good bye cars, internet, food, water, life.
913  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 13, 2018, 04:33:56 PM
https://bgr.com/2018/12/11/galaxy-s10-features-cold-wallet-for-bitcoin-and-crypto-in-the-works/

Galaxy S10 might ship with a secure cold crypto wallet for storing Bitcoin
How secure can it be when I throw my phone around all the time? Still haven't managed to break any of my Samsung phones (surprisingly), but if I had crypto on it I'd either get really stressed out or have to change my behaviour.
914  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 13, 2018, 03:37:38 PM

I completely agree however, we must take into consideration that many people invested last year, with a buy in much greater than ours. They could already be at a loss or close to a loss, which puts them at a very different mind set to us who, would need a far greater drop in price to be in their position.

Yeah . My mind set changed completely last week when the price reached my average and I become at loss.
Watch out for this once you're back in profit. Your mindset will do the inverse if we start mooning and that can be just as fatal as what you are experiencing right now. It just won't feel bad until it's too late.
915  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 13, 2018, 03:35:45 PM
The point is that we're already down 90% and the probability of going down further decreases exponentially as we go down. You're just falling victim to the gambler's fallacy right now.

Agreed. It's an absolute classic noob move but it's also 100% understandable. It's how regular human minds work.

Unfortunately the people you're trading against know this and do not have regular human minds. 

I completely agree however, we must take into consideration that many people invested last year, with a buy in much greater than ours. They could already be at a loss or close to a loss, which puts them at a very different mind set to us who, would need a far greater drop in price to be in their position.
What you are describing is the inverse scenario that we are having right now. People buying into hype, selling into fear. Some people never learn this error in judgement, some take a few market cycles and wipeouts to learn it, some learn it before entering any market. But the fundamental principle remains, if you buy into hype and don't set aside some profits you'll probably get burnt. The same is true for selling in fear instead of buying and/or holding.

Ahhhhhhhh

Thank you millionaire, gentlemad and lfcbitcoin

I will hold this shit until it goes up. You are right.

Thanks

Of course, there are edge cases. Some assets will keep climbing for a very long time, others will go to zero. But that's where diversification and value analysis (should) come into play, not succumbing to human psychology.

Make sure you really understand this and don't fall for the trap of "omg why didn't I sell" if we go down further after the fact. The (mathematically) most sensible thing to do is to keep buying in small batches and decide on different price targets at which you will sell. This includes higher prices at which you take some partial profits, as well as a full stop at which you get out of the game entirely. I'm personally riding down to zero if I have to, but for others it might be more sensible to scrape.

Just be aware of how markets function and decide on your strategy before you get into the game, and then take whatever you get without beating up yourself over it. Invest that energy in learning how to do better next time instead of FUDding/FOMOing out/in.
916  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 13, 2018, 03:19:00 PM
The point is that we're already down 90% and the probability of going down further decreases exponentially as we go down. You're just falling victim to the gambler's fallacy right now.

Agreed. It's an absolute classic noob move but it's also 100% understandable. It's how regular human minds work.

Unfortunately the people you're trading against know this and do not have regular human minds.  

Absolutely!
I could sell everything now & I’d still be massively up on what I originally invested. The thing is though, you just know if I do that the price will go to $6,000 or $7,000 & I’d end up buying back half the amount I currently own which would be fucking retarded.


This. If you want to sell you do it on the way up, not on the way down.
917  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 13, 2018, 03:04:18 PM
Just as you said that buying at 15k is stupid, in future selling at 3500 could be a great deal. What is it goes to 1500.? That's a 100 gain if I buy back.
The point is that we're already down 90% and the probability of going down further decreases exponentially as we go down. You're just falling victim to the gambler's fallacy right now.


Edit: What if it goes down to $1? It was $1 before, I could sell one Bitcoin and make 3500 Bitcoins! (fat chance)

Edit2: Invest some money in a book on investing and balancing portfolios. Read it, study it. Everything you post cements the fact that you're just gambling based on emotions. Emotions that traders use to take your money and make profits.
918  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 13, 2018, 02:59:49 PM
I think that you're being emotional and shouldn't invest at all if you can't handle massive red candles. Selling now is like buying at >15k. Now is not the time to sell, but to keep cost averaging in.

There is no guarantee that bitcoin will really bounce back one day . I believe it will, but I am totally unqualified.

Putting more money is foolish, if you already put all the money you have reserved for high risk assets.

In past it bounced from much lower marketcap, much lower media attention, much lower infrastructure (exchanges, media, wallets, ATMs, stores that accept etc).

It's not certain that it will ever reach 10k again. I believe it will, as everyone here. But how much are you willing to bet that it will? That's he point.
If you already put all that money in that's on you for not keeping enough powder dry. But regardless of how much fiat you have available, selling after a ~90% drop is anything but sensible, especially when that's roughly been the turning point for most assets that plunged and didn't die. Market cap is irrelevant too by the way, at least in the peanut amounts that we are at right now. Apple is still 10x the size of Bitcoin. And that's just one company. Bitcoin is well positioned to become the backbone of future finance.
919  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 13, 2018, 02:41:51 PM
$6245 is over $5000 Wink

I think we’ll start to move upwards in Feb regardless of BAKKT, even if they delay again.

These prices are literally ‘cheap coin’.
Like Hairy said, this is a once in a lifetime opportunity, I am buying more but I just wish I had a lot more fiat.

It really looks like a good opportunity to buy...
But I believe we are going down even further. I will sell some and rebuy. I just can't see my bags growing heavier if we hit 1500-2500...

Hi

I would be interested to know more.  Can you tell us whether you have sold some previously since the peak, and your thinking?

Well that's what I did:

Buying from 2 to 9k in 2017. Took small profits in 7k.
Saw it go to 20k and, as a newbie I thought: I will necer be able to buy one BTC again, I will not take profits. My average is about 3800usd.
Holding since then.

I believe that BTC will bounce . I has bounced so many times since 2017, and much more since 2013, 2015 etc etc...

But I am not willing to bet so much money. As this is almost gambling

I thought i was ready to lose that money, but when I got red (especially because of ethereum, average 280 USD) I feel that I can't take another 40% dump which is very likely now.

Ethereum is in a bad shape now. Casper is delayed and ICOs are fuked. This affects yhe whole market, even BTC imo...

I am about to sell my ethereum which is like 30% of initial investment.

I am thinking about selling btc too, at least some and try to buy back at lower price (I am so bad at this)

When I sell the chances are that we are going to have a big bounce, so I will tell everyone first so you can make some money lol..

What are yours thinking?

I think that you're being emotional and shouldn't invest at all if you can't handle massive red candles. Selling now is like buying at >15k. Now is not the time to sell, but to keep cost averaging in.
920  Economy / Speculation / Re: NEW BAKKT game on: December 13, 2018, 02:36:51 PM
I'll go with $6969 this time.
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