Have you been to Asia?
Yes? Came back from another visit to thailand just yesterday. Been to the flips too. What about it? There just is no continuous aging process when it comes to Asian women (at least the good looking ones). They eventually flip to "old" mode once they turn I don't know, 80 or something. |
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..... i'm thinking.... new ATH afther USA tax day on 17 April ... what do you think?  Obviously. But how long after the tax day? |
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Surely there are other forums where you can shout at each other about Russia?
What's your point? probably referring to some rather long winded tldr previous post about Russians or some such thing.... idk ...tldr no his point is simple, take some Vaseline, and enjoy your russian ass rape! that's it... total submission... to make a few temporary bucks, until the russians take everything you owned... btw still using telegram for crypto pumps? I always taught that it was fully backdoored by the russians, I still believe so, it's just a ruse... and that the internationalists, russians collaborators are great people, they take great care of the planet or anything they touch. they can't do wrong. this what I find the most pathetic with the westerners who have been mind conquered by russia. Putin can do no wrong, of course all opposition is silenced. and those low iq fell for it and worst are too stupid to realize it. And too weak to admit they have been played like muppets. anyway, russians models are like most altcoins... they look promising young... and then... hehehe.  btw the pro putin should thread careful... if they are soo low iq to fall in the putin/soviet/globalists trap... better hodl... the rest... hehehe. ps i hope this little meme make the post more readeable to the employees of putin... (at least most ukrainian hate you, most belarussian, most sunnis, most isrealis) I am sure you will enjoy later the generous fruits of this hate... That's all women. All women hit the wall. Most of them hard. Have you been to Asia? |
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I really need a job where I get paid to smoke cigarettes and point at things.
and click? btw who among you has access to the facebook virgin girl mail list? you know where they target girls for you... it cost a lot... but there must be some here with the means... did they come to propose you or you had to seek? you know location + a psychological campaign? then you just have to place your lambo at the location that the service provide... all the rest would have been worked... it's ez... just pay... building communities... you kna''' the big club... I need to know this as well... for a friend, I mean for science... err, for a news article. Yeah. For legitimate reasons. |
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How the hell am I supposed to get any work done on a day like this?
Work? I believe he's referring to the practice of moving bits of matter around at or near the surface of the Earth. It's a living. Don't do it. I've been there, and I promise you it is not worth the effort. At least, do at your own discretion. I believe I may participate again soon for a change of pace, but only for a Limited Time. Traveling is expensive when you refuse to sell the bottom.You could always sell the bottom to buy more Bitcorns. |
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OK, thats enough! fuk you can lose your whole day in this thread!
That's what makes the internet, and this thread in particular, so great. Can't wait until we can process even more information at once, with days seeming longer as a result. |
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Yes I would suspect the MAOI interacted with something to cause to SS. I might not have followed the preparation diet as strictly as I should have, especially considering the giant dose I was given which measured about 1 Liter when I now see that most people drink about a small teacup's worth. In addition, I have a genetic SNP called the "warrior gene" which already impairs my MAOA function.
By the way, in the indigenous culture, ayahuasca is not actually MAOI + DMT. It is strictly the Caapi plant (the MAOI) which has the name Ayahuasca. Other additives, such as a DMT source, or other things, may or may not be added. Most of the time they were not and it was just the Caapi. Also, in most healing ceremonies it was actually just the shaman who drank in order to channel energies to the patient and the patient did not even drink. I learned all of this after the fact. So apparently all us tourists are being taken for a ride.
I did not get ill with my current condition until 2 years after this event, so I'm not sure how I would bring up a correlation with my doctor, unless I want to hear that I'm suffering from a somatized PTSD disorder. Actually I'd be curious to do a SPECT scan of my brain and see if anything died.
I was aware that it was usually just the shaman drinking, but I had no idea that it was originally just about the MAOI. I thought that the caapi on its own didn't even have any real effects, at least nothing comparable to any psychedelic. But whatever makes money I guess. It does seem to be hardwired to supply what people demand. If I wasn't so sure $100k was right around the corner I would probably be a bit irritated by this.
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I love humans. You just can't make this shit up. |
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I understand your theory. However, the negativity in this experience was strictly physical and prior to ayahuasca I never had a bad experience on psychedelics in my life. I was always fearless and trying to go as deep as possible (hence trying Ayahuasca). However, something was extremely different about this ayahuasca experience. At about the 90 minute mark was when it was no longer fun and I noticed my body had gone very cold, my limbs felt dead, and I felt like I weighed 2000 poinds. Everything was buzzing like I had neuropathy and I saw the white tunnel of death (which kind of looks like a spinning particle accelerator). I needed to gasp for breath and could barely sit up. I was starving for oxygen, couldnt breathe right, and seeing stars. There were no more visuals - just the stars and static of someone who was being choked and passing out. I was certain I was dying. After realizing I wasn't getting to a hospital any time soon, I said my goodbyes to everyone and surrendered my life. I proceeded to sort of black out for the next 6 hours.
Again I dont remember any visuals or anything meaningful - just sort of on and off blacking out and praying for my life. Oh and vomiting no less than 100 times. At some point the ceremony was over and I was supposed to leave, but I wasnt ready and it took me another few hours in a sort of catatonic stupor to gather my composure to be able to walk out. I was asked about my visuals and if I saw any spirit animals, etc. and I said all I saw were some geometric patterns, which confused them. They asked over and over and I just pointed to their robes. They handed me a survey to fill out which I thought was hilarious because I couldnt read still. Looking back it doesn't seem like a psychedelic experience at all but rather just being knocked the fuck out and brain damaged. Maybe it was serotonin syndrome.
I also had trouble the first time I tried "weed" where a few minutes after taking several puffs because I wasn't getting high, I started seeing stars and then totally lost consciousness, and according to a friend I convulsed and threw fists at him. 10 minutes later I woke up from some deep dream not knowing what planet I was on, took minutes to regain my bearings, and felt like shit for the next 2 weeks. But that was nothing like the ayahuasca trip. I'm just wondering if my brain isn't able to metabolize certain drugs. Inbetween the weed and the ayahuasca, I did have a stellar career with some other classic drugs though
That sounds pretty terrifying. Another reason for me to stay away from Peru, as interesting as the environment sounds. Luckily safer substances and ROAs can go just as deep as ayahuasca minus the negative side effects. Ayahuasca is pretty much a combination of two substances, DMT and a MAO inhibitor, and then some random stuff depending on what shaman you're with. The MAO-I basically allows the DMT to become active when ingested (as opposed to smoked or injected), but it also creates the risk of serotonin syndrome, the symptoms of which sound like what you're describing. If that's what happened then the weed experience seems confusing though, since it can't trigger SS. I've had some "negative" experiences with weed to say the least, but I never really passed out. I got close once when my entire field of vision got filled up with tiny turquoise colored donuts and my legs felt like gummy snakes. Somehow managed to get home and just lay down. Other times I've paid too much attention to my breathing and/or heart rate and freaked myself out into believing I was dying, but never anything quite as extreme as what you've described. Absolutely zero negative experiences with harder drugs beyond the usual "did I take too much" or "was this a mistake" kind of thoughts that accompany the come-up of every great trip, at least for now (fingers crossed that won't change). Have you talked to your doctor about the SS possibility regarding your current condition? Or was that unrelated? |
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It was dirt cheap back in the day and that's why it's not around now I would think. there's not much profit margin on a drug that will give you 9 hours of fun with no side effects. I'm not sure why it is expensive now, it's an easy google to make and any indian can have up to (16 oz.? in raw form) on them for religious purposes at any time IIRC. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MescalineI believe from experience that LSD builds in the system and does not leave so in effect whenever you do it again you are adding to the total. AFA leading to death it is by your actions while you are on the drug not by the drug itself. I had someone intentionally OD me on it and then try to punk me off which left him in intensive care and he almost died and me in a cell in segregation being told that I had killed him. that was the scariest week of my life, thinking you murdered someone is not somewhere you want to be. He attacked me and I instantly saw red until a crowd of people were yelling at me to stop and then my eyes focused and all I could see was a pool of blood I was standing in and the heel of my boot in his head. The next and last time I did LSD was about 7 years after that and I ended up walking down a 4 lane highway towards the cars calling them on and they were all swerving around me. After a few I realized what I was doing and left the highway. So in essence I CANNOT do LSD ever again. I could write a book (Ive done things people just don't believe) but am just a lazy fuk.  You can get Cacti all around, they're easy to find, legal, and fairly cheap. Pure Mescaline HCl however is a different story. It takes quite some effort to extract it out of cacti, and I'm not sure that part would even be legal and hence drive up the cost due to effort and well, legality. It's still dirt cheap if you compare it to any other form of entertainment, but it's quite expensive compared to LSD or mushrooms. Roughly ten times more expensive. Which is still nothing if you consider the fact that LSD costs less than a movie ticket (while providing more value). As far as LSD "building in the system" is concerned. It's definitely excreted by the body, so if we're talking about long-term accumulation of residue that's not going to happen. It's true that any death surrounding LSD would be due to the actions during the trip or other external factors though. You would have to try really hard to ingest a lethal dose of it and would probably experience a loss of self before you could even ingest that much. And damn, I've known a guy who just randomly stripped naked in the middle of the street whilst on MDMA (and lots of weed). Never seen anybody start yelling at cars on a highway though. Whatever happened to dosing at home or in a forest though?  |
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Let's hope the singularity and Crispr-9 will sort you out in your lifetime.
I appreciate that. Thanks. All-in-all, I'm "doing pretty fucking OK" with the regimen I've stabilized on, but I do often lament to my doctors "I wish they could just delete the genes that cause depression and anxiety, because fuck everything about an untuned fight-or-flight response". I don't like discussing stuff like this, mostly for fears of blowing OpSec, but have come to recognize that it's important to openly discuss mental health issues, rather than grow up in a time like I did, where things like that just weren't discussed due to stigma. But, yes, bring on the CRISPR-Cas9 research ! Exciting times we live in. Yeah I understand. There are way better places for such discussions anyways that don't risk any holes in your OpSec. And given that you've managed to retire early thanks to Bitcorn things can't be too bad. At least you always have the opportunity to play around, travel or eat. And yes, the times are really exciting. I find it quite intruiging how the excitement, albeit coming and going in waves, seems to find new highs as time goes on. Just like the Bitcorn and other asset prices. What a strange world. ditto...
and a word from the wise... dont ever touch opioids.... unless you are terminally ill... in which case indulge and enjoy your last days in comfort
..its what they were made for.
Part of me feels like giving them a whirl, since I've never had any issues with other supposedly highly addictive substances (amphetamines, alcohol, tobacco), all of which I cut just randomly decide to stop taking even after prolonged use. But meh, I'll leave that for when I'm too old to care. No reason to risk anything when I've still got decades ahead of me. They don't sound all that interesting either. If I wanted substance induced euphoria there seem to be far more intruiging options than opiates. |
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P.S. Is there a correlation between recreational experimentation with substances and the openness to Bitcorns, or are those substances just more wide spread these days due to pop media references and documentaries?
I'd imagine there's a significant overlap between people open minded enough to use psychedelics and people crazy enough to get into bitcorn. In my younger and more vulnerable years I tried many psychedelic substances. I for one would never, ever touch anything of that nature. I've known quite a few people who set off on a trip and never really came back. It's one thing to blow your tits off with amphetamines, it's quite another to start meddling with your infinitely delicate brain chemistry. all drugs work because they affect the brain. amphetamines are not easier on your brain chemistry than psylocibin or lsd. i´d say that amphetamines are the bigger burden for the brain. Whether or not anything is a burden is always a question of moderation and circumstance. I would agree that amphetamines are more harmful though There are 3d printing templates for this available as well. |
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This literally is the only Image that was not showing up and it's the only one on topic! what are the odds. P.S. Is there a correlation between recreational experimentation with substances and the openness to Bitcorns, or are those substances just more wide spread these days due to pop media references and documentaries?
I'd imagine there's a significant overlap between people open minded enough to use psychedelics and people crazy enough to get into bitcorn. In my younger and more vulnerable years I tried many psychedelic substances. I do so miss Mescaline, haven't seen it around sine the mid 90's. There's nothing like laughing for 9 hours straight to peak the spirit if not really hurt the jaw mustles.  LSD on the other hand I can't do again last 2 times almost ended up in death, first time for someone else and the last time for myself. Oh god yes, I love Mescaline. Unfortunately it's too expensive and rare to get as HCl and I'm not too keen on eating pounds of hellishly bitter cacti. One can only dream that the renaissance of research in this field will make it more accessible by the time I'm an old fuck. I'm really curious, how do people end up almost dead on LSD though? Other than Mescaline it was the most lucid substance that I've ever taken, even at higher doses. all drugs are good mkay
sometimes in moderation and sometimes fun with no moderation. fuck it enjoy life
Try anything once, twice if you like it. What if you like it so much that you would wanna keep on trying it for the rest of your life even if it may have a high chance of fucking it up? then avoid it if you have no self control I'd say then your priorities are backwards. Drugs are only fun if you've got your shit more or less together. Otherwise they're like alcoholism, which is, misery to say the least. I mean sure, nobody knows what the fuck they are doing and what the hell is going on in life (mostly), but there are times, places and doses for just about anything in life. Without trying to pry too hard, have you done this constructive analyzing/talking about whatever the fuck happened in your life kind of stuff? I haven't really heard of any depression cases where there wasn't something going on at some point in their life (e.g. just a naturally occurring chemical imbalance).
Genetically inherited, unfortunately. 4 generations now. That sucks to hear. Let's hope the singularity and Crispr-9 will sort you out in your lifetime. |
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Did they have any prior conditions? Did they mix the substances with something else? What exactly did they take?
I'm not talking death of course, they just wound up as vacant shadows. I dunno if there was something underlying in each case, but the eagerness people have to upend their brains is a little befuddling to me. You have no idea what effect they'll have on you yourself until you're too far gone to do anything about it. The way I see it is, I supposedly only get one life and want to experience as much of it as possible. Of course that demands caution as well, but I've spent roughly a decade researching all sides of the story for every substance that I've ever tried and ultimately concluded that the risk/reward ratio for (some) psychedelics was in the favour of taking them, at least for me. I've made sure that I knew what to expect to the best I could and started small with no obligations for the coming days. At the end of the day, it was like Cannabis turned up to 11. |
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They’re not going to send out the cards until the app is fully tested, which is happening right now. I’m pretty sure most people would prefer they found any bugs now rather than later. i think (also i want to believe) because of that they are not sending the cards.
Of course the App should be tested very well, but the question is do they even have the permission from VISA to issue cards? I hope so because I want a simple way to spend my Cryptocurrencies everywhere. bluff with the visa continues, everybody wants to be visa partners visa only no where confirms possible operations to the crypt with visa. how to deal with it and when the visa and master card will begin to look towards the crypt is not known. Visa allows "third party" providers for credit cards that use the Visa network as well. Crypto would be no different whatsoever. At the end of the day, if Visa gets its commission Visa doesn't care. |
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Psychedelics in general just amplify what is already going on inside you.
Hence if you're having a hard time with life, then that will be amplified to extreme and potentially life-like levels with all your insecurities and problems taking "real" shapes depending on the dosage that you've ingested.
As horrible as the experience might be, it can actually, in select cases, be good for the person as it forces them to confront their problems.
So far I didn't have anything anywhere near as extreme as the horror stories that I've read on the internet though, and I can't imagine myself ever having any of those experiences either.
But I've also made it a point to remember what I did prior to the experience, which takes off the edge. I'm also quite curious as to what is going to happen during the moment of death, since it's quite obviously just a fairly tale that humans tell themselves for the lulz. And then, with a high enough dosage you lose control anyways and at that point it doesn't really matter what happens since you just fully dissolve in what is happening (if anything at all).
P.S. Is there a correlation between recreational experimentation with substances and the openness to Bitcorns, or are those substances just more wide spread these days due to pop media references and documentaries?
It's almost impossible to predict where people's demon's might take them. I watched a guy leap through a (closed) window, and then proceed to gnaw a guy's thumb off who was trying to help him. Dude was an experienced psychonaut too, but ayahuasca delves deeper than most. At the same time, my spinal column lit like a rocket and propelled me straight into god's eye. A few millennia and hundreds of death/rebirth cycles later, I woke up. Like WOKE woke. Bitcorn was a no-brainer "risk" after that! What's the worst that can happen?  A second round after the fact? I smoked DMT while peaking on LSD once and I'm not sure I would've even been capable of moving to jump out of a window if I wanted to. And on "physically functional" dosages I've always been very capable of thinking my actions through prior to taking them out. I'm really curious as to how people lose control or if it's more of a denial kind of thing. I've experimented dozens of times and never got anywhere close. The dumbest thing I ever did was shake a tree while on a cliff, slipping up would've been bad. But that's not precisely substance related and something that kids would do regardless. I mean, if you could literally shake a gigantic tree, you just would, period (it's easy to shake them at the top). |
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P.S. Is there a correlation between recreational experimentation with substances and the openness to Bitcorns, or are those substances just more wide spread these days due to pop media references and documentaries?
I'd imagine there's a significant overlap between people open minded enough to use psychedelics and people crazy enough to get into bitcorn. In my younger and more vulnerable years I tried many psychedelic substances. I for one would never, ever touch anything of that nature. I've known quite a few people who set off on a trip and never really came back. It's one thing to blow your tits off with amphetamines, it's quite another to start meddling with your infinitely delicate brain chemistry. Did they have any prior conditions? Did they mix the substances with something else? What exactly did they take? Generally, LSD, Psilocybin, DMT and Mescaline are among the most safe substances that you could ever ingest, even when compared to alcohol and tobacco. However, there are substances that are being sold off as LSD and whatnot that are quite something else. They have similar effects, but can actually be lethal or otherwise problematic. In the 60s a substance called DOM was sold off as LSD. However, it took far longer for its onset, so people took more thinking it was a dud. It also lasted much longer than LSD and didn't really have an "upper ceiling" (LSD stops within 12ish to 24 hours regardless of dosage), DOM on the other hand lasts longer the more you take. 10mg lasts for upwards of 30 hours nonstop, and people took 20 to 40mg of it (because idiots put 20mg on a blotter while 5mg was already a pretty heavy dose) and then got hospitalized. Then there's other stuff that can literally kill you if you take just a little bit too much, which also gets sold off as LSD. But when it comes to "classic" psychedelics, they're as safe as it gets. If you wanted to overdose on mushroom (lethal dose) you'd have to ingest about 5 kilograms of fungal matter. And you would die way before the substance could kill you just by the sheer amount of matter that you'd be ingesting to get anywhere close. Heck, you'd be tripping so hard that you wouldn't even be capable of eating any more to get to a point where you could die, be it from the substance itself or the amount of "food". So other than taking the wrong substance without realizing it and overdosing, the only potential issues are mixing substances with problematic interactions, or already being mentally unstable and then tripping in a bad environment at a bad time. These substances aren't toys and it's important to be mentally at ease before, during and for a day or two after the event. They're also quite powerful tools though, and there's quite a body of successful research going on into treating depression, PTSD, addictions (tobacco, opiates, alcohol), anxiety and the like right now. The only reason this research isn't further than it is right now is because of the classification as Schedule I thanks to Murrica's political games a few decades ago. |
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As horrible as the experience might be, it can actually, in select cases, be good for the person as it forces them to confront their problems.
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However, I could imagine that the tea that shamans brew in their filthy pots in the jungles with all the resulting vomitting and diarrhea could have a very different impact on the person though. Which is also why I'm not particularly interested, although I've had an experience with throwing up on the come up before, which while fucking hilarious, wasn't something I'd need to repeat in that form.
I can't speak to the diarrhea, but I've heard vomiting is often a side-effect of the experience. I've been fascinated with the idea of taking DMT to experience ego death, but, unfortunately, would very likely suffer from serotonin shock, and die, due to drug interactions with my daily regimen. I've learned to make peace that I need certain prescribed pharmaceutical products in my system to balance me out. Not sure if I really want to try getting off 'em at my age ("ain't broke, don't fix etc.. right now") So yeah, random aside I guess. An experience I will not be crossing off my bucket list, in this lifetime. That, and I have a horrible, HORRIBLE aversion to vomiting. The only time I vomitted was on psilocybin mushrooms, but I was slightly sick when taking them and ate quite a lot (of food) before that as well. So I was basically asking for it. Other than that I've never had any problems. Although the only time I've taken DMT was vaporized and not in the form of a tea either. I'm not interested in ayahuasca precisely because of the vomitting and the supposedly disgusting taste. At least with dried mushrooms they taste like nuts, and all the other substances can either be jammed into gelatine capsules or just have no taste to begin with. Without trying to pry too hard, have you done this constructive analyzing/talking about whatever the fuck happened in your life kind of stuff? I haven't really heard of any depression cases where there wasn't something going on at some point in their life (e.g. just a naturally occurring chemical imbalance). I got over my crap by spending way too much time with my thoughts alone and eventually things just clicked into place and now even with brief depressive episodes it's all just whatever (in a good way). Now those times feel more like spice in what we call life than some obstacle and I've actually grown quite fond of them, as they usually force me to set myself back on track whenever I go full retard for too long. P.S. Is there a correlation between recreational experimentation with substances and the openness to Bitcorns, or are those substances just more wide spread these days due to pop media references and documentaries?
I'd imagine there's a significant overlap between people open minded enough to use psychedelics and people crazy enough to get into bitcorn. In my younger and more vulnerable years I tried many psychedelic substances. Fair enough. I guess both are just some form of risk taking behaviour. |
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some interesting new FUD ... from a bank 'analyst' research division no less. If you are a self-convicted permabull you may want to innoculate yourself before reading Barclay's special FUD mind worm piece below ... http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12030678Analysts at investment bank Barclays developed a pricing model for the cryptocurrency based on epidemiology — the study of the spread of disease through populations — which divides the pool of potential investors into three groups, "susceptible", "infected" and "immune".
"However, once full adoption is approached, the price decline is sustained and rapid.
"Eventually, this leads to a plateauing of prices, and progressively, as random shocks to the larger supply population push up the ratio of sellers to buyers, prices begin to fall. That induces speculative selling pressure as price declines are projected forward exponentially.
"This occurs with infectious diseases when the immunity threshold is reached, [that is], the point at which a sufficient portion of the population becomes immune such that there are no more secondary infections."
In Barclays' model, the original "infected" were the 0.1 per cent of the population who first bought cryptocurrencies with an unknown long-term fundamental value, while the "susceptible" were the 25 per cent drawn in by fear of missing out. ... funnily enough after all the FUD they cover their asses at the end by saying we will 'almost' revisit ATH. All I read from the whole bullshit propaganda hit piece was that Barclay's is accumulating. In fact, chart looks a lot like everyone and their dogs are accumulating ... it's a classic accumulation phase. I like how they pulled parameters out of their asses and didn't provide different case studies. I would be quite surprised if there wasn't a set of parameters that resulted in Bitcorns not falling off in price, as there are almost always two to three distinct cases with different behaviour (up, down, oscillating). |
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My understanding is that if you have a lot of deamons inside then your ayahuasca experience is going to be more challenging, and the inside might not look so pretty. But, hey, I am no expert, and maybe I would even be a bit more chicken-shit to deal with myself... I have also heard that sometimes ayahuasca can help to slay some of the deamons too... I suppose, even if those deamons happen to be bears... might be good, no? You may need to return ur selfie to peru... confront the deamons and perhaps even become "good friends" with the mountaineous creatures in the midst.... let the boy come out in you, perhaps? what happens in peru... blah blah blah..  Psychedelics in general just amplify what is already going on inside you. Hence if you're having a hard time with life, then that will be amplified to extreme and potentially life-like levels with all your insecurities and problems taking "real" shapes depending on the dosage that you've ingested. As horrible as the experience might be, it can actually, in select cases, be good for the person as it forces them to confront their problems. So far I didn't have anything anywhere near as extreme as the horror stories that I've read on the internet though, and I can't imagine myself ever having any of those experiences either. But I've also made it a point to remember what I did prior to the experience, which takes off the edge. I'm also quite curious as to what is going to happen during the moment of death, since it's quite obviously just a fairly tale that humans tell themselves for the lulz. And then, with a high enough dosage you lose control anyways and at that point it doesn't really matter what happens since you just fully dissolve in what is happening (if anything at all). However, I could imagine that the tea that shamans brew in their filthy pots in the jungles with all the resulting vomitting and diarrhea could have a very different impact on the person though. Which is also why I'm not particularly interested, although I've had an experience with throwing up on the come up before, which while fucking hilarious, wasn't something I'd need to repeat in that form. All the same is true for cannabis as well by the way, which is why some people with certain characters get overly paranoid on it. The trick is to distract yourself and to just fake it until you make it. At some point any onset of paranoia just becomes a predictable meme to laugh at (disclaimer: do not try at home I'm not a doctor etc). P.S. Is there a correlation between recreational experimentation with substances and the openness to Bitcorns, or are those substances just more wide spread these days due to pop media references and documentaries? |
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