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1221  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 18, 2018, 08:34:50 PM
Smoke pot


cannot OD on pot, or die, or get disease or anything else


Not on old fashioned pot. However I heard about people dying from some types of spice, but it's a hundred times stronger than regular pot.
Spice is not pot. It's chemical analogues that are unresearched and often well known for causing serious problems (all the way up to death).

Pot on the other hand is harmless. I ate two bars of chocolate with a friend once (one each). One bar had 16 segments of which one segment was enough to floor a casual smoker. Needless to say, we were pretty much immobilized and just spent the following ~12h+ listening to music and watching Youtube. Would definitely repeat.

Who cares if it’s legal or not?
I can’t imagine a life without social drug use.
Any sane person would care about legality when it comes to the Middle East or some parts of Asia. Their drug laws are completely and utterly insane and only a complete moron would play with that kind of fire.
1222  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 18, 2018, 07:30:33 PM
BTC dominance is falling again :-/

down to 40,7% from ~44-45%
Irrelevant statistic due to the amount of altcoins in circulation (>>>1000:1 for #alts : #Bitcoin).
1223  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ANN [MCO] MONACO #1 Cryptocurrency Payments Card on: April 18, 2018, 06:57:04 PM
The fact that it is VISA card, makes the project seem to be more reliable.
But how the cryptoholders will be able to get this card? Is it a kind of a card that is designated for both crypto and so to say 'real' money?
If you want a premium metal card you buy 50-500-5000 or 50000 MCO tokens, lock them up for 6 months and get your card. There's also a free card. You can charge it with normal fiat money (bank wire or credit card) or with crypto. As long as you're in a country in which MCO serves customers you'll be able to get one no matter what your situation is.
1224  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ANN [MCO] MONACO #1 Cryptocurrency Payments Card on: April 18, 2018, 06:52:53 PM
Why after registered and waiting few months for card now Monaco app on Android want acces to:
- Contacts (all cell number from my contact list)
- pictures, multimedia, FILES, outside memory

?? Why reason to anybody give acces to all cell numbers from phone ? Maybe give them numbers to other people with cryptocuriences even they dont want any MCO card ? Its joke ?
Everybody make KYC so WTF ?
And multimedia and files ? all pictures ?
They can tell "we dont really use all of them" but I dont care and or dont belive.
They dont need this data after all people make KYC already.

And afterall waiting year-few months with KYC done is blackmail "give us all from your phone or you cant update your Monaco app" Huh
And if someone dont update app even if future they send cards he dont take card because have not updated app and maybe cant finish process take card ??
Or maybe better buy clean total empty (nothing files, media, contacts, separate mail only for MCO) used phone and install on them again Monaco app and confirm acces all what app demand ?
many years waiting and nobody have card.
Its scam ?

No ones forcing you to use the app. Just another reason for someone to attempt to fud to call it scam. No one believes its scam anymore. Got far too much proof.

Visa approval. Beta app out in the wild. They have released proof of working cards. Not just demo card.
If you want to use the card you have to use the App. And his concerns are genuine and well called for. Monaco has no business with your personal data and doesn't need it for the services that it provides.

Calling this FUD is just plain ignorance, please go back to playing Fortnite.

Lol. Really. There are many apps that ask for certain rights and details. Monaco ain't any different. You want to use their app. Their card. Then you agree to their terms and conditions. Dont like it. Cool then dont use it.

It needs access to contacts more than likely for when you link it to your bank account. My bank account app has the same permissions. So when I send money etc by mobile number it can pull it from the contacts.

Bunch of whiners. All you'll do is delay it further for no good reason if you want them to bow down to your every whim and need.
No, it does not need access to contacts. And my bank account app doesn't have those kinds of permissions and functions just fine. In either case, those things should be optional and not mandatory. If people want to be able to send money to phone numbers they can choose to share, but they should not be required to. Especially in the wake of the current FB/CA scandals.

Just because you apparently need "OMGMOON" now to pay your bills doesn't mean the company should be making obvious mistakes. And changing the privacy policy doesn't take any significant amount of time and hence your (greed driven) argument is completely irrelevant anyways.
1225  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 18, 2018, 06:48:34 PM
I only care about bitcoin everything else seems insignificant

Pretty much, sitting here day after day waiting for 2021 ish when my stash will make me rich. Running two companies is boring & unfulfilling. I want to travel, fuck hookers & snort copious amounts of cocaine.

I highly doubt you will find that very fulfilling for very long.
The travel part might work, accompanied with a hobby that requires constant striving (e.g. learning any arbitrary skill or set of skills and pushing it to its limits). The latter part sounds pretty boring.
1226  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 18, 2018, 06:26:25 PM

In all honesty this why I thought you were a r0ach alt, before I knew you. Slightly too Nazi-sympathetic for me. Anyway I've learned to not be 'triggered', as the kids say. Trolls will always take the temperature of the room and play just below the line.

One thing I've observed is that the European posters are triggered a lot more easily by the neo-nazi-ist stuff. The posters who I know/suspect to be American on this thread don't seem to be bothered. Maybe there's still some collective trauma among Europeans after basically having half the continent destroyed.

Or it could be that we're a bunch of Trump-voting nutjobs.
Can confirm the collective European (maybe, but at least German) trauma.


I only care about bitcoin everything else seems insignificant

Politics makes me uneasy. I got lost somewhere between civil rights and social justice. Now I figure I'll just let the kids do their thing. Is that bad? Can I just opt out?
Sure you can opt out, I did that for the most part of my life unless somebody engaged me (I don't turn people away and entertain their arguing points as long as they don't get physical). There's so much to do in this world that you could focus on just a single thing and never finish exploring, so just pick what feels right to you and don't forget to occassionally check back if things might've changed. We have zero obligation to anything or anyone on this floating donut.
1227  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 18, 2018, 06:16:00 PM
What do we mean when we talk about race? Genetics, culture or a combination? Is it possible to quantify the nature/nurture relevance ratio? How about a child born from a black and a Jew, raised in Asia by a foster family? Which "race" do they get stamped on their Interwebz passport?
Those are precisely the cases that would have to be studied rigorously. They'd give much needed insight on how much of a person's traits are genetic and how much is cultural. But unfortunately science is censored so hard that it's impossible to do any meaningful research, especially when it's the kind that doesn't promise near-immediate profits.
1228  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 18, 2018, 06:10:30 PM
Come on, someone post some classic TA, please. This kind of OT is distracting, irritating and plain disgusting.
Didn't you mention not too long ago that you had met tribal people, that they were different from us, and that it was fascinating?

Reality is what it is. Being disgusted with reality is needlessly limiting.
Everyone who directly speaks out against an IQ to race correlation (of any kind) as racism is the true racist, and a hypocrite at that. If people really cared about the "less fortunate" they would be looking for every straw they could possibly grasp on to help them. And victimizing people instead of empowering them has never helped anybody and merely creates more problems. As such, I can't take anyone serious who gets emotional as soon as any mention of race is involved.
I've been subject to very real racism, to the point of physical bullying, and I still don't see anything wrong with talking about it nor do I feel like a victim (to anything other than a bunch of retards that would've probably found something other than race as a trigger anyways).

Either way, it seems pretty obvious that there are cultural differences that, when amplified throughout a large amount of people, materialize as all sorts of benefits and problems. Anyone who denies this is being dishonest or hasn't bothered to observe reality. Whether or not this is down to DNA, just the culture, or a mix of both (and likely more) is something that research should be working hard to figure out.
But instead the left turns it into a racist talking point in order to fish for votes. (The right could certainly do a better job at spinning the story in a way that wouldn't trigger all the snowflakes though, society is all about selling ideas and products to others after all.)
1229  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: ██████【BOUNTY】█🌟█🌟█BLOCKLANCER█🌟█WIN🌟LNC🌟WORTH🌟UP🌟TO🌟25.000$██████π on: April 17, 2018, 07:59:59 PM
Waiting for blocklancer tokens to become $300 per token. How do you think we can make that possible?
We can't. Not for 10+++ years. The largest portals right now only have a yearly revenue of about 10 Billion and thus a net profit of 300 Million USD, or ~2 USD per LNC, probably closer to 20ish USD given expected returns. While the market is expected to grow rapidly, $300 isn't going to happen for a very long time, and even then Blocklancer would have to be a globally dominant force. Not impossible, but not extremely likely, certainly not easy and definitely not happening over night.
1230  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 17, 2018, 07:33:30 PM

And if you complain about migrants on facebook or twitter, you go to jail. At least in germany and england, same pattern everywhere, just a matter of degrees.

Slight exaggeration. If true, the 51.9% of UK population who voted for Brexit primarily due to immigration concerns would be in jail.  You can complain about migrants, it's racism which is illegal and rightly so.

In other news....it's a sea of green in cryptoland  Grin

The problem is the word 'racism' has been changing definitions at least colloquially.

Where it used to mean the belief that one race is superior to another, it now includes people making racial stereotypes.

Plus why on earth should racism be illegal?  A belief should not be illegal.  Acts should be.
Not to mention that there are not insignificant cultural differences between different races. Along with which come certain cliches. Only a mentally ill person would ask for reality to be ignored, or even be outlawed to acknowledge and talk about.
1231  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 17, 2018, 07:24:25 PM
There's really nothing unique about hate speech though. Being vocal about one's unpopular and/or inflammatory opinions is often detrimental to one's career.

Political correctness enforced in private firms is even more absurd than elsewhere, given that they are (were) supposed to mind about the budget and efficiency above all. But now this madhouse is the new normal. meh.




Has been since investing in public companies became a thing. With investors and PR having such a massive impact on finances there's massive pressure to just play along with and please the masses, which tend to be incompetent. That's why I would never go public with my own companies, if I fail then I'll own up to it. But I don't want anybody to nag me about my business. At the end of the day, humanity gets what it deserves. I'm just surprised that people completely fail to see the obvious flaws in their thoughts and actions even today.
1232  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ANN [MCO] MONACO #1 Cryptocurrency Payments Card on: April 17, 2018, 06:49:05 PM
Why after registered and waiting few months for card now Monaco app on Android want acces to:
- Contacts (all cell number from my contact list)
- pictures, multimedia, FILES, outside memory

?? Why reason to anybody give acces to all cell numbers from phone ? Maybe give them numbers to other people with cryptocuriences even they dont want any MCO card ? Its joke ?
Everybody make KYC so WTF ?
And multimedia and files ? all pictures ?
They can tell "we dont really use all of them" but I dont care and or dont belive.
They dont need this data after all people make KYC already.

And afterall waiting year-few months with KYC done is blackmail "give us all from your phone or you cant update your Monaco app" Huh
And if someone dont update app even if future they send cards he dont take card because have not updated app and maybe cant finish process take card ??
Or maybe better buy clean total empty (nothing files, media, contacts, separate mail only for MCO) used phone and install on them again Monaco app and confirm acces all what app demand ?
many years waiting and nobody have card.
Its scam ?

No ones forcing you to use the app. Just another reason for someone to attempt to fud to call it scam. No one believes its scam anymore. Got far too much proof.

Visa approval. Beta app out in the wild. They have released proof of working cards. Not just demo card.
If you want to use the card you have to use the App. And his concerns are genuine and well called for. Monaco has no business with your personal data and doesn't need it for the services that it provides.

Calling this FUD is just plain ignorance, please go back to playing Fortnite.
1233  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 17, 2018, 06:46:59 PM

And if you complain about migrants on facebook or twitter, you go to jail. At least in germany and england, same pattern everywhere, just a matter of degrees.

Slight exaggeration. If true, the 51.9% of UK population who voted for Brexit primarily due to immigration concerns would be in jail.  You can complain about migrants, it's racism which is illegal and rightly so.

In other news....it's a sea of green in cryptoland  Grin

Racism is illegal? Despite our problems, I'm often glad I live in America, where at least we have truly free speech.
No you don't. Not since the invention of hate speech.

Hate speech is still legal and protected speech.
And it still ends your career, even if it's a scientifically founded and rational argument that has nothing to do with actual hate. See the fired Google engineer for one very prominent example of this fact. And fuck knows how many went under the radar thanks to the liberal hive mind.

There's really nothing unique about hate speech though. Being vocal about one's unpopular and/or inflammatory opinions is often detrimental to one's career.
Yeah, sure. If you're being a cunt you deserve what's coming at you. But the Google engineer that was fired didn't even get anywhere close to what any rational being could ever even jokingly consider as hate speech. And I'd be genuinely shocked if he was the only one who lost his job (and got blocked from getting other jobs in the area) for not participating in the 60 gender horseshit while being civil about it.
1234  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 17, 2018, 06:26:10 PM

And if you complain about migrants on facebook or twitter, you go to jail. At least in germany and england, same pattern everywhere, just a matter of degrees.

Slight exaggeration. If true, the 51.9% of UK population who voted for Brexit primarily due to immigration concerns would be in jail.  You can complain about migrants, it's racism which is illegal and rightly so.

In other news....it's a sea of green in cryptoland  Grin

Racism is illegal? Despite our problems, I'm often glad I live in America, where at least we have truly free speech.
No you don't. Not since the invention of hate speech.

Hate speech is still legal and protected speech.
And it still ends your career, even if it's a scientifically founded and rational argument that has nothing to do with actual hate. See the fired Google engineer for one very prominent example of this fact. And fuck knows how many went under the radar thanks to the liberal hive mind.
1235  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 17, 2018, 06:24:08 PM

So, what's the alternative to capitalism in your book? Cause I don't see anything wrong with it. It's the only system, if unobstructed, that self-regulates. Everything else is artificially steered by humans, humans that are inherently incapable of seeing the bigger picture of all the interactions in a system as complex as our planet. And so far I haven't even read about anything that comes even remotely close to capitalism.

Democracy on the other hand... is just the opposite extreme of authoritarian regimes and ultimately not much different.

Capitalism self-regulates just fine in some cases, like it will determine the number of barbershops in a town. But there are other cases: bank runs, monopolies, etc.
Bank runs are only a problem because banks lend out 50 times more than they have.
Which would not be a problem either if tax dollars didn't bail those fruits out.
1236  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 17, 2018, 08:49:32 AM
Great to know, thanks! That leaves me with at least two viable countries to stay in with my own property and at least two more (of interest) in which I can at the very least rent without any hassle. Going to have to get off my lazy ass and hit up some lawyer that specializes in international tax policies sometime.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_earned_income_exclusion
That's not an issue from me since I'm not from the US (and certainly would leave if I was despite the exit tax).
1237  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 17, 2018, 08:11:05 AM
I am pretty sure you can game the tax systems by “earning” all your income while offshore or in a tax free jurisdiction  and not staying in any particular Western country for more than 179 days [does not work for US citizens]

So fly to Dubai to cash out your BTC and then go skiing for a couple of months, rinse repeat. 
The problem that I have is specifically with owning property in that kind of situation. I don't want to go from hotel to hotel or Airbnb to Airbnb for the travel part. But if I could just own two houses and have each of them set up as a fully functional base then I would be perfectly happy to just fly over from one to the other every 6 months. Just haven't found anything specific regarding this edge case yet.

I think in Thailand you have to be a citizen to buy...you can lease, which is what most foreigners do. Actually most marry a local and the wife buys the property.
The citizen part was what I was worried about. Seems to be that case everywhere. I know that foreigners can buy property in Japan, but it seems like that is only for commercial purposes (such as renting out). Suppose using family could work though (in case there are no decent countries that allow non-citizens to own property for private use).

Sweden doesn't care about your citizenship, anyone can own property, even people without citizenship. You would have to pay real estate tax, but that tax had a cap of 914 USD last year. And in many cases you pay less, it's adjusted for inflation yearly. And everybody speaks english.
Great to know, thanks! That leaves me with at least two viable countries to stay in with my own property and at least two more (of interest) in which I can at the very least rent without any hassle. Going to have to get off my lazy ass and hit up some lawyer that specializes in international tax policies sometime.
1238  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 17, 2018, 08:05:54 AM
work illegally

something is seriously wrong with any system where work is ever illegal

We're also still plugging away at a tried and failed system,  democracy and capitalism. So ya, things look kinda grim in the forecast while the majority of us either consent to doom or try to find the best loophole to escape cope with it.    
So, what's the alternative to capitalism in your book? Cause I don't see anything wrong with it. It's the only system, if unobstructed, that self-regulates. Everything else is artificially steered by humans, humans that are inherently incapable of seeing the bigger picture of all the interactions in a system as complex as our planet. And so far I haven't even read about anything that comes even remotely close to capitalism.

Democracy on the other hand... is just the opposite extreme of authoritarian regimes and ultimately not much different.
1239  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ANN [MCO] MONACO #1 Cryptocurrency Payments Card on: April 16, 2018, 11:51:13 PM
Please does anyone know if Monaco Cryptocurrency card is operational once again? Last time I checked, They had their partnership with a payment processor canceled which led to the inability of users to use the card. I'm looking to get a Cryptocurrency card for myself and I was wondering if the card are functional. Checked with tenX. Its not yet resolved.
MCO was never cancelled. They're waiting for BIN activation and paperwork.
1240  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ANN [MCO] MONACO #1 Cryptocurrency Payments Card on: April 16, 2018, 10:50:17 PM
They’re not going to send out the cards until the app is fully tested, which is happening right now. I’m pretty sure most people would prefer they found any bugs now rather than later. i think (also i want to believe) because of that they are not sending the cards.

Of course the App should be tested very well, but the question is do they even have the permission from VISA to issue cards? I hope so because I want a simple way to spend my Cryptocurrencies everywhere.
bluff with the visa continues, everybody wants to be visa partners visa only no where confirms possible operations to the crypt with visa. how to deal with it and when the visa and master card will begin to look towards the crypt is not known.
Visa allows "third party" providers for credit cards that use the Visa network as well. Crypto would be no different whatsoever. At the end of the day, if Visa gets its commission Visa doesn't care.
Fiat and crypto while living under different laws, in some countries, the transfer of Fiat in crypto money laundering is considered, so that until there is a single legislation no exchanges on the fly FITA on crypto on the visa will not be, there will be partnership transactions Fiat to third parties, it has no relation with the partnership with the visa, such partnership has any third party using payments through the visa card.
Google translate?
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