I thought you couldn't reverse gifts? It wasn't a gift though. The buyer claimed it was a gift, but both the buyer and seller knew that this was a lie. so what? once you send a gift. you can't revers it... i think! No gift was ever sent. In order to "send a gift" you must intend to transfer it to the recipient for no compensation whatsoever. Legally, no donative intent = no gift. "A gift, in the law of property, is the voluntary transfer of property from one person (the donor or grantor) to another (the donee or grantee) without full valuable consideration. In order for a gift to be legally effective, the donor must have intended to give the gift to the donee (donative intent), and the gift must actually be delivered to and accepted by the donee." Here we have a transfer that the recipient knew was not a gift. as long as PP doesn't know that it can not be reversed. no? |
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I thought you couldn't reverse gifts? It wasn't a gift though. The buyer claimed it was a gift, but both the buyer and seller knew that this was a lie. so what? once you send a gift. you can't revers it... i think! |
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I'd drink neft if only bitinstant hadn't mentioned they were involved. Now avoid at all cost, fuck the slave wage, no benefit offering, overcharging, failed viral marketing, cancerous excuse of a start-up.
have you ever worked for a small company? |
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 oh sweet life giving nectar
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He would not accept otherwise. But he did take 50% down.
k so ask paypal for a charge back |
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did people send him money b4 getting the coins?
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 this weekend I'm staying home cuz I'm poor, next weekend I'll be rich  |
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The only thing holding up gold is the fact that everyone is betting that the USD will collapse, and everyone on wall st. will buy gold like mad fools when it does... this couldn't be more wrong. their are MANY MANY other commodities to dump your $ in in-order to protect against this hyper inflation. gold is easy to push on poeple, but I think buying anything else will give you a better outcome when the shit hits the fan. copper is 0% speculative value. its 3$ a pound because that's what its worth gold is 90% speculative value. its 1700$ an ounce, because people are suckers. if the USD does in fact implode ( this is kinda crazy, but i guess it could sorta happen ) traders aren't going to bump up gold 10000%.... they are simply going to buy ALL kinds of commodities, and probably avoid gold because it will be in a bubble on-top of a bubble... 4000$ for an oz of gold... what a joke... sorry guys... I blame "Gold Line" for my hate of this gold BS.  |
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Have you done business with them in the past? How fast was it? yes cavirtex is a secure bitcoin exchange I do all my day trading their. the pay bill thing is now even faster then b4, like 24 hours and you will see the money in your account. Then you can either place a bid and wait for someone to sell you coins, or buy them right away off the ask side. you can also sell your coins there. We Canadians are spoiled by having such a gr8 bitcoin exchange I see they now take 3$ from all transactions? They also advertise that it takes 6 days to get money deposited. You are saying they process within 24 hours normally? Sounds like a very good solution... will try them out!  3$ is if you use direct deposit to fund your account with $$$, i think this method is much faster like a few hours. i have no idea where you got 6 days! it never took them that long for me.... https://www.cavirtex.com/methods -> "Deposit Canadian funds" Online bill payment 1-2 business days Free Cash Payment 4 to 8 hours $3 their fees when trading will start off at 2% i think... they had to UP the fees in order to make enoght money to stay in 100% legal and stuff I do lot of trading so i get less fees... but 2% when buying your first few coins isn't much at all... especially considering most of the time your paying 10-20 cent lower then mtgox price. |
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anyone else think its extremely fishy/odd that the owner of the site takes part in tournaments and ring games?
no, its not hard to imagine that the owner of sealswithclubs likes to play poker... |
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Have you done business with them in the past? How fast was it? yes cavirtex is a secure bitcoin exchange I do all my day trading their. the pay bill thing is now even faster then b4, like 24 hours and you will see the money in your account. Then you can either place a bid and wait for someone to sell you coins, or buy them right away off the ask side. you can also sell your coins there. We Canadians are spoiled by having such a gr8 bitcoin exchange |
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thanks for that. does anyone else think btccharts has become laggy in the last week or so?
yes, somtimes if you let it run it will stop updating. often i see that the last trade was 30 mins ago, simply refreshing the page will solve the problem... but sometimes not |
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Realistically, no one is going to pay up if they lose. Matt won't even get half of his money if he wins. If he loses: He'll disappear, or he'll pretend to be trolling and we fell for it, etc...
Hell, I'd disappear if I owed that much. I wouldn't pay up to show I'm some internet tough guy. C'mon, I mean, would you guys?
this I really wish the hole thing would be called off, Matt is a gr8 guy, and doesn't deserve to pay out that kind of money for such a BS bet. Its either he losses, or he wins and no one pays. no matter what happens no one will pay out, In the end all this bet will prove is that people in general suck. |
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"No, He will weasle out of the bet."
WHHHATTT
you dont know Matt at all if you think this
if anything "he'll wear the scammer tag with honor."
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Oh fuck ya. That's what i need!
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I think he's going to rack it up to over $1 million soon. He's got nothing to lose now. He's already screwed but has all to gain if a miracle happens. Its hard to believe pirate40 pissed away ALL the money.... i mean even if he sold alot of the bitcoins that means he has money.... I see no reason for pirate40 not to pay out at the very least most of the coins... I guess this is what Matt was thinking when he did this bet. I'd say their is still a reasonable chance pirate will pay up. Pay up with interest at 7% compounded for three weeks on top of what he owed when pirate shut down BTCST. If pirate had the coins he would have returned them already. Why wait 3 weeks to pay 22% more bitcoins which is like some crazy number above $ 1 million at this point plus the 500k bitcoins. Edit: TO put things into perspective. The amount of interest pirate owes since he shut down is much larger than the current amount of bitcoins betting against Matthew.oh right 7% compounded interest... ( I've been drinking  ) |
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Care to double down again? Time is getting close, I'll understand if you reject it.
2000 btc.
(Probably pushing my luck)
Done. if betting is still open double mine as well 1000 1HMNpyKHTeeneTkjvAzM2j6zYY8kY9VZPr no guts, no glory! Done.  Matt wtf, none of these guys will pay out if you win god damn, Remember, remember, the 9th of September wrong! oh come on... none of these bets are in escrow right? |
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Care to double down again? Time is getting close, I'll understand if you reject it.
2000 btc.
(Probably pushing my luck)
Done. if betting is still open double mine as well 1000 1HMNpyKHTeeneTkjvAzM2j6zYY8kY9VZPr no guts, no glory! Done. Matt wtf, none of these guys will pay out if you win god damn, Remember, remember, the 9th of September |
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