What do you think of chongchang coin?
A profoundly unheroic post. Reflects quite badly on your judgement. Cheers Graham I wasn't aware there were standards a persons rank should stand on? |
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oh and i asked bittrex to resync and when they did i sent them maryj to make up for the coins that people lost last week. then they had wallet issues again after it seemed to be fixed. im not the person to throw away money on an issue that seems to need a better solution thats in progress and will be here soon.
or do people think its a good idea for a company to fix say a broken work van constantly or buy a new one with less money than you would spend on repairs...
Hi, Fire Rabbit asked me to give a hand with some Blockchain issues. It's best not to get stressed out by issues and things going on around the Coin otherwise you tend to overlook things that turn out to be a very simple solution. Relax and smoke a joint, and lets get down to business. What are the issues you are having? Please detail every incident relating to sync issues and events around that time. I do development work on ColossusCoin2 and PayCon, I have also performed several successful hardforks and have been working with POS only Coins since before BlackCoin and NXT. I can't guarantee you anything but I'm sure I can be of some help. nice to see you here  as far as i know coins can be sent but they dont arrive in the wallet they are sent to... i dont know whom that was, but someone said sending between qt wallets worked for him, dont know if he had the same ip and thats why it worked. also my wallet is staking and is showing a higher amount than the blockexplorer https://chainz.cryptoid.info/maryj/ does. and therefor all exchanges disabled the wallets. hope someone else can also give you some input. also it would be good if you contact adam (DEV) and offer your help if you havent done this yet. im happy to see you here offering your help. It would be good to work though it here rather than through private messages as lots of feedback can help identify the issues. The Block explorer can show different balances than the wallet since it shows individual addresses, not wallet balances, a wallet consists of many addresses. For a strong network you need a lot of people Staking on the network, that is having your Coins in your qt wallet, online. A couple things I noticed When changing the time drift, it should be changed through a hardfork based on nHeight but most people never go out of their way to update their wallet so a further step should be taken to bump the protocol and then a delayed reject on all peers on the lower protocol after the fork so you don't risk having both conflicting within the same protocol. 24 hours for the initial block drift is a HUGE amount of time and actually even being changed to 1 hour is also a very large amount of drift. The drift time should be as tight as possible, BlackCoins drift was down to just 5 minutes before they changed how their Stake functioned. A couple other things needed for a strong network is a few good Static nodes for people to connect to and not just relying on a DNS seeder since it only adds addresses periodically. Was the checkpoint master key new? or was it a descendant of the code it was cloned from? What code was MaryJane cloned from? I have been through a lot of code and haven't seen the legacy retargeting anywhere else. I do not know what it was cloned from but the wallet looks like the old silkcoin wallet so I am leaning that direction. Firerabbit and I were able to exchange coins back and forth between each other a couple of days ago. Originally the block explorer and bittrex's wallet were getting off so bittrex shut it down due to that. They re opened the market after resynching the chain and I believe the issue occurred again shortly there after. Richie of bittrex stepped in and pointed out that chainz was showing multiple versions of the wallet running on the network, one of which was unaccounted for and/or not available on the git. He said they were shutting the market down until that was resolved and would keep it shut until the newest version was available on github. The static nodes question has been brought up multiple times with no answer given. I believe most of the questions you ask are over the dev's head (no offense). This coin was contracted out to be developed. I believe earlz at one point had posted to github a wallet review that may help or not. I have not read it in sometime. And I do not believe it was ever brought up in this thread. I am sure I am missing some or over generalized some issues, but this how I remember it at the moment. I find that if you can find the source that it makes it easier to pinpoint where the issue might be and might have already had a fix done for it. My initial reactions are that it can be the targeting drift of 1 hours to 24 hours so possibly some big wallet was still on the old version, messing up the chain. Minimum age is 3 hours which is quite low so you would see a lot of compounding as well, chains out of sync can be Staking on their own chains. I have also seen some issues in other Coins where they were returning Coins to a specified address and bugging up the code and this legacy is quite strange to me. |
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The strange thing is that I have never met Josh and I feel like I've known him forever.
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There does seem to be a certain confidence in the way they went forward... almost like they've already come to an agreement with the SEC and other agencies, so have no fear of investigation. But, given all the various ownership claims in that proposal... it seems josh lied to his attorney who must be very, very happy with josh right about now.
You're looking for sense where there is none. If you see you're absolutely fucked, you stop digging yourself into a bigger hole right? That's what the leaked email about shutting down HashTalk was about, to stop them incriminating themselves even further. Slightly out of order I think, but here's the general idea. - Josh is told in a leaked email to shutter HashTalk until everything blows over
- Josh has a "RAID failure" which destroys HashTalk, tells everyone it's over ("RIP HashTalk") and to move to talk.paycoin.com
- Josh rebrands announces to MrCEO (presumably to try and claim he isn't in command anymore)
- 27th March Josh changes his profile picture to "minerals" and makes vague references to something big upcoming.
 - Josh rebrands MrCeo to minerorigin and makes it an administrator
- Josh ignores the minerorigin account after a single day of use, heads back to MrCEO
Somewhere in there HashTalk was announced to be closing in a week (again), but I can't where it fits in the timeline. Need some help with dates if anyone can add them. I doubt he will close hashtalk because most won't move over to minerals. |
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probably not a good idea to destroy data in the age of information. i think it can be very useful (and in some cases even necessary) to have a possibility to trace transactions deep into the abyss. that's why the blockchain is also called the distributed ledger. imho, the security of cryptonite's mini-blockchain is doubtful. new coins are matured instantly and no confirmations of transactions can be made (it simplifies the task of an alternative chain creation). one of possible workarounds for us could be some blockchain compression or a light version of the wallet which uses the merkle root for transaction confirmations as in bitcoin's MultiBit. I for one don't really care about destruction of data, it's probably even a bit of a good thing as it can add to the anonymity and decentralized nature of the Blockchain. Blockchain compression can only go so far, for something to really be infinitely self sustaining it should work like a rolling Blockchain where old data is pruned off otherwise you still have the growing ledger. I am pretty sure that a multi-bit like wallet using the merkle root only isn't able to Stake (or atleast not currently). I agree, but the nature of crypto is not only in anonymity (there are also other ways to hide transaction history rather than just simply erase it), in the ideal world there will be no need in anonymity  The idea of the blockchain is something that can be saved in centuries hermetically sealed, it opens a road for extension of its functionality to let it go beyond money transfer. If it is the trade-off to save some disk space, I predict that in few years even 100 GB blockchain won't be a problem (Moore's law is still actual), with all it's synchro hashing work. So a compression or some harmless truncation (or full-blockchain master nodes, in the case of the multibit-like light wallet which can ask for a piece of the blockchain to be able to stake) can be a temporary solution to release back the full power of the blockchain later. I'm divided on this, but mostly I fall to the side of keep the data forever. I also suspect that storage won't be a huge issue going forward. HDD's just keep getting bigger, and SSD are getting bigger, cheaper, and more efficient as well. Plus, there are things like Electrum, though I think at present it couldn't work for staking coins. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong on that, because a thin client for Hyp would kick ass. I heard PandaCoin had a lite Client a while back along with quick-sync. I'm more along the lines that there will be many different types of Coins so although hard drives are getting bigger, you also have more Blockchains to run so it doesn't hold up to moore's law when you are holding hundreds of different Coins. thats a GREAT idea... take it a step further and make the sfx theme-able I just wanted to reply and make this quote thread even bigger. why on earth would you want to do that? I don't know, more data, more better right? Eventually we can fill the known universe with trivial historical block chain data.  Eventually we will fill a little crystal with the known universe It can't be called trivial if somebody relies on it in his work. For Coins to survive it means that people needs to work together in order to keep relevant, gone are the days where a person should viciously guard their secrets. |
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Ok
The issue was about new users quoting topics and replacing with malicious links, I wonder if we could make a community warning force.
I've actually seen a few clone threads, too. Username looks similar to the actual dev's, too. It's a typical method of phishing. Say someone were to try to make a Tecoin thread under the name GaneOfBit. Some people could mistake the "n" for an "m", and think I made another thread. People download the "Qt" that's really just a RAT disguised as the Qt, run it, and they're infected. Same thing happens on Steam all the time. Spambots message you saying they want to trade for your CS:GO item, with a Steam phishing site attached. Ok, good to know What do you have for ideas in ways to combat this? |
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Another thing I have not heard mention of either during the Whitewash or in the Hashtalker romper room is any thought about IF the ownership of these XPY pooping Prime Controllers are actually split between different entities, how exactly is that good for the price?
You've missed the point somewhat, there's no way to ever "fix" paycoin. Lets look at the options. - The Prime Controllers are removed with a hard fork. PayCoin is now a shitty PeerCoin fork that's broken, the client doesn't sync more than 500 blocks at a time, and there's nobody around to fix shit if it breaks even more. The coin distribution is fucked beyond repair due to the Prime Controller bullshit, so it's dead.
- Team PayCoin attempts to pick up the pieces, maintaining their 5 Prime Controllers and trying to enforce "only" 100% inflation, Garza of course keep the other 45 keys which pump out coins until the end of time for no reason. Coin is dead due to it being stupidly over inflated and nobody ever wants or needs PayCoin to pump up the cost.
At the end of the day there's no reason for PayCoin to even exist. https://c91475e716c8925e05c6-d2659d433205cf4410415f8dd63807af.ssl.cf5.rackcdn.com/paycoinwhitepaper.pdf- Instant transactions aren't something that needs to be solved by an altcoin (Bitcoin can have them with multisignature oracles, just nobody can be bothered making them because there's no huge financial exit).
- Blockchain "compression" obviously doesn't need prime controller centralized bullshit to work (it's built into Bitcoin for fucks sake), the rest of the nonsense about Orion Controllers and stuff was just to justify to people why there should be people getting hyperinflation keys (so they can sell them to people with hashstaker contracts they bought from GAW, of course).
- "HybridFlex Blockchain provides archival and final confirmation of all balances" well, funny thing is that balances aren't used in the block chain at all so that was always impossible.
- "FundSafe" was never mentioned again after their whitepaper, it was just ignored because it made no sense to have "biometric signatures" as a concept in a cryptocurrency (it's impossible anyway).
- "Paycoin features an extensible block chain" (SIC) funny, Bitcoin has that too with replaceable nop-codes. You could add the entire x86 instruction set to Bitcoin with no modifications and (gasp) no altcoin.
- "Time based contracts", "Smart Property", "Advertising Micro Payment System", "Crowdfunding", "built in escrow" all just random words thrown into the soup without any real justification. Some impossible, some already in Bitcoin, none justify the coin and none of them have ever been mentioned ever again by anybody.
- "Orion Controllers" and "Voting" never existed, transaction fees are destroyed by PeerCoin anyway.
- "The hard problem of quantity theory" what.
- Prime controllers were supposed to "perform archiving functions on the hybridflex blockchain", "reconciliation instructions for the blockchain to orion controllers", "participate in voting" (why would you vote for anyone but yourself), "have the exclusive rights to perform inter blockchain cold storage functions" (cold storage has nothing to do with the network), "stake rate of 5%" (all wallets do that anyway and it's what, like 3600% compounded for a prime controller), "voting rights to proposed changes in the codebase" (lol no). Same as above, impossible pie in the sky, just a random list of whims that were never actually coded up and never checked for sanity.
- All the stuff about prime controller eligibility is literally impossible in a decentralized network, and all the prime controllers are hardcoded anyway, there's no way of changing them or moving them without hard forking the coin.
So, what's there to save? The only people with an interest in saving PayCoin are the bagholders. Nobody wants to buy PayCoin, nobody wants to use PayCoin, nobody has a compelling reason to even want paycoin. The only reason people have PayCoin in the first place is that they saw images like this.  Who decided it was a good idea to make a "whitepaper" that's all images you can't copy from too. Unbelievable. Thanks for the link to the white paper. I found an interesting part of it under "6.2.2 Prime Controller Functions": "Stake rate of 5% on all funds locked in the winning bid address[9]" 9: Prime Controller stake rate is 5% of all locked bid funds as a six month yield with the stake paid daily. Does this correlate with the current stake rate? I don't think you need instant transactions with a Blockchain, since you don't want to be paying for cups of coffee without any Blockchain compression, XPY currently does not work because it requires a hardfork to make changes and fix problems but no one knows anything so Josh/GAW would have to generate more Coins to pay for expenses (power, payroll, marketing etc and deflating the price) I think you could actually define it as a Ponzi scheme since you are trading the devaluing currency without constant new influx of people. |
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Ok
The issue was about new users quoting topics and replacing with malicious links, I wonder if we could make a community warning force.
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I lost my message, going to fix it up in a new post
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OMGOMGOMG! Where can I buy a Yanglet? I need to have this! Amazing! PayCon is the future and will soon overtake Bitcoin.
Yanglets are automatic, they are like reverse Super Stakers You put your money into it and everyone else gets more Coins, in a sense everyone gets a Yanglet. Why didn't you call the coins input yangles and the output coins yinglets? Because it feeds on dark matter hyperflux, it is the black abyss in which all money flows. |
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muddafudda created it as a clone of CzchezCoin (chezch? chech?)
that's hardly possible since that czechcoin thingy was a PoW-Coin  Without looking into the code, with its PoS-only it looks more like one of the 300+ BLK clones to me ;-) BlackCoin is a good Coin, it has and is still advancing far past every other coin based on it's core. |
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Bandwidth exceeded?
Didn't know there was a limit?
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Sorry for sounding like a noob to this stuff, but is it not possible to Solo Mine this stuff ? ccminer30 -t 1 -a x13 -o 127.0.0.1:9456 -u xian -p 1234 ... isn't working for me  cgminer is for mining a Proof of Work Coin, PayCon is a Proof of Stake only Coin that pays a static Proof of Stake reward of 30 Coins per Block. |
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probably not a good idea to destroy data in the age of information. i think it can be very useful (and in some cases even necessary) to have a possibility to trace transactions deep into the abyss. that's why the blockchain is also called the distributed ledger. imho, the security of cryptonite's mini-blockchain is doubtful. new coins are matured instantly and no confirmations of transactions can be made (it simplifies the task of an alternative chain creation). one of possible workarounds for us could be some blockchain compression or a light version of the wallet which uses the merkle root for transaction confirmations as in bitcoin's MultiBit. I for one don't really care about destruction of data, it's probably even a bit of a good thing as it can add to the anonymity and decentralized nature of the Blockchain. Blockchain compression can only go so far, for something to really be infinitely self sustaining it should work like a rolling Blockchain where old data is pruned off otherwise you still have the growing ledger. I am pretty sure that a multi-bit like wallet using the merkle root only isn't able to Stake (or atleast not currently). I agree, but the nature of crypto is not only in anonymity (there are also other ways to hide transaction history rather than just simply erase it), in the ideal world there will be no need in anonymity The idea of the blockchain is something that can be saved in centuries hermetically sealed, it opens a road for extension of its functionality to let it go beyond money transfer. If it is the trade-off to save some disk space, I predict that in few years even 100 GB blockchain won't be a problem (Moore's law is still actual), with all it's synchro hashing work. So a compression or some harmless truncation (or full-blockchain master nodes, in the case of the multibit-like light wallet which can ask for a piece of the blockchain to be able to stake) can be a temporary solution to release back the full power of the blockchain later. I'm divided on this, but mostly I fall to the side of keep the data forever. I also suspect that storage won't be a huge issue going forward. HDD's just keep getting bigger, and SSD are getting bigger, cheaper, and more efficient as well. Plus, there are things like Electrum, though I think at present it couldn't work for staking coins. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong on that, because a thin client for Hyp would kick ass. I heard PandaCoin had a lite Client a while back along with quick-sync. I'm more along the lines that there will be many different types of Coins so although hard drives are getting bigger, you also have more Blockchains to run so it doesn't hold up to moore's law when you are holding hundreds of different Coins. |
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Once again. Please stop promoting your played out jokecoin in this thread. It is completely off topic and no one gives a fuck about it.
Au contraire, how do I solo mine this shit ? Have PayCon.conf created, and this times out ccminer30 -t 1 -a x13 -o 127.0.0.1:9456 -u xian -p 1234I downloaded the client, synced the blockchain, downloaded ccminer, and it keeps timing out trying to connect to 127.0.0.1:9456 ? Wat do ? . It is POS only, best to ask questions on the PayCon thread. |
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I throw up a little whenever I have to read one of the Paycon shill posts in this thread. Go back to your unfunny joke thread please.
Totally agree, it's not funny. I think satire is a legitimate way to reflect and communicate about the GAW/Paycoin scam. I don't know who created PayCon and I never even looked at its thread or website, but the things they post here for me work well as satire. muddafudda created it as a clone of CzchezCoin (chezch? chech?), any ways I thought it was great idea to show that you can do more without a million dollar fund. We've spend a few dollars (under $1000), upgraded the code quite a bit, and rolling out new features soon TM, it's really not difficult to make something better.... Waste so much time arguing and suing people over money. Once again. Please stop promoting your played out jokecoin in this thread. It is completely off topic and no one gives a fuck about it. It only affects people who already own it, not about buying or selling. Not off-topic since it is a point that you don't need a CAF fund. |
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Are you trying to say this is not a joke and it's actually coded in the wallet? You just outdid a bunch of XPY non-profit foundations with their word class developers if that's true  No Joke. Itīs coded from the cryptoworld`s best staking developers Can someone post it at HT pls - let them have fun and the oppertunity invest in a good coin, too My account seems shadowbanned! Yeah lets do this!, it IS Friday after all |
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I throw up a little whenever I have to read one of the Paycon shill posts in this thread. Go back to your unfunny joke thread please.
Totally agree, it's not funny. I think satire is a legitimate way to reflect and communicate about the GAW/Paycoin scam. I don't know who created PayCon and I never even looked at its thread or website, but the things they post here for me work well as satire. muddafudda created it as a clone of CzchezCoin (chezch? chech?), any ways I thought it was great idea to show that you can do more without a million dollar fund. We've spend a few dollars (under $1000), upgraded the code quite a bit, and rolling out new features soon TM, it's really not difficult to make something better.... Waste so much time arguing and suing people over money. |
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