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1721  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Online Gambling vs Real Gambling on: March 06, 2017, 07:45:42 PM
why should go from home if we can play gambling at online world? especially online gambling with bitcoin
it's have more advantages than real gambling example it's anonymous, easy to access and not need go from home

at least the real gambling is available and can be used as an option when you're feeling bored with online gambling. No need to elaborate gambling, if you have a few close friends who was also a gambler you can play along with them. Real gambling as it can also be used as a moment of reunion of old friends.
real casino in real life prevent non adult player to play , you have to show your id to have an access to go through the casino otherwise you would just kicked out by the casino bodyguards. old friends reunion? are you kidding me? never feel like that to me (you might have a lot of gambler friends  Roll Eyes idk ) , i just feel have more pressure gamble in real casino , the thrill the only thing make the difference.
1722  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What keeps you coming back??? on: March 06, 2017, 07:36:10 PM
Greed.  Grin
It will always be the reason to why I am going back. I want to double the capital at first then after that maybe triple it. That is what keeps me going back but that is also the reason to why we lose.
Gambling is an addiction. It is hard to stop. Maybe a week you could rest but after that something is pulling you back
That is something which is obvious people only return daily again and again just ot double their money and also to cover their loss.
The result is obvious they lose daily again and again. The best thing to do is don't invest in any gambling sites any more. It is just making the owners rich
'don't invest in any gambling sites?' are you sure have choose a proper word? play a game to get additional money aren't considered as investment at all. gambling are a way to get their adrenaline pushed as for some people it's really entertaining . but unfortunately a lot of people consider it as a money maker, they are lured to a huge potention winning that actually hard to reach it.
1723  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What are your thoughts for Bitcoin in 2017? on: March 06, 2017, 07:22:58 PM
I think that Bitcoin has the potential to get a larger value within this year of 2017. The price per coin reached $1,000+ and the people holding the coins are using Blockchain like nothing. Blockchain technology used to be kind of tough to understand -now there is more people asking technical questions on the deep portions of Blockchain.

Bitcoin is getting known day after day. It won't be that long till mainstream news and movies use it as the subject of Currency.

That is certainly true. As Bitcoin continues to rise in value over the year, more people become interested into it as a store of value, as well as explore the underlying technology called the blockchain. If Bitcoin continues to expand, then I have no doubt that it would become used as a mainstream currency.

It would be very surprising to see a celebrity using Bitcoin on a movie, sometime in the future. When that day comes, those who haven't heard about Bitcoin will become interested into it, thus spreading its adoption.

Nevertheless, I will continue to hold most of my Bitcoin, as I believe that the price will increase $1500 and above. Just my opinion.  Grin
i think some movies or tv serial i guess have used bitcoin already in their science fiction film. mr. robot for example , in the last episodes the whole story almost tell about how cryptocurrency works in their hacking mission, pretty damn good and i'm so proud with it. 2017 should be a year where a lot of people introduced to bitcoin and have easy point of view on how they have to try a digital money in their daily lives.
1724  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why trading is better than gambling? on: March 06, 2017, 06:06:12 AM
Trading is always better than gambling because it's not too risky like gambling.
Also, We can't talk about luck in trading, because skills played a big part in it. I don't mean that skills don't be a part of gamling, but the domination of luck is the big part.
So for me, I don't consider gambling as a way to get profit, Always i gambling for fun.
I consider trading is a nice domain, which you can get a lot of money, if you learned a lot about it. I advice people to enrolling into this domain.
When it comes to trading you need luck as well as skills and the main skills set is to understand the numbers and studying the market trends and you can manage your loss if the market is down and so on,you have plenty of options when it comes to trading and on the other hand,if you are going through a bad streak you will end up busting everything.

Trading needs research, knowledge, and skills.  With all the information, you can have a better chance of being successful in trading.  While in gambling you can only rely in your chance of winning.  With this, we establish that trading is really better than gambling.
in terms if you really have that skills and knowledge , but how if you don't have it? people would think that gambling and trading are have equal chance , trading based on nothing and gambling based on luck , pretty much same right? learn about how to trade properly aren't as easy as you said , do it and you would know how you struggling making profit in trading.
1725  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your gambling strategy on: March 06, 2017, 05:56:49 AM
Recently my strategy has been to leave the bitcoin in my gambling account and watch the price go to the moon Grin

Haha, sadly this works only when you have few bitcoins in your wallet. Sadly, most of gamblers don't have them and that's the reason why they gamble and try to find perfect strategy.

My gambling strategy is to simply avoid every luck based game and stick to poker and sport bets. Poker is also luck based but at least you can kinda control outcome of your bets, while in sport bets it's all up to you where you will bet.
Yes, I think this is the main strategy, when you avoid any type of gambling that based only in luck, Like dice or anything else.
Gambling is too risky, we can't avoid all the risk but we can decrease it by playing in a real games. with some skills and knowledge we can win. I talked about football, basketball .. any types of sports or online gaming.

I usually play sports betting specially when I bet a big amount of money, I am more confident on trusting my analyses than just purely relying on luck.
Games that are luck based should be played only occasionally, we do not know when we will be lucky so it's nice to just limit our bet.
Anyway, all games has risked therefore we need to manage it and always stay on your comfort zone.
- Yeah, Sports gambling is suitable for people who do not want to rely on luck too much. Feeling would be great if the analysis and prediction of us exactly, the most important is that we can minimize risk and limit bet by our skill. Because if we are not confident in our prediction, we can bet with small amount of money and vice versa. With sports gambling, we can manage our money, analysis before gambling and avoid relying on luck is the reasonable strategy
but how about someone who too lazy to think and make analysis also does not really like on sports? they might prefer to gambler randomly and just roll the dice . analysis won't work if you play dice , roulette or something. so for me most of the gambling games are totally random and luck the only thing you can rely on.
1726  Economy / Lending / Re: 🌟🌟🌟🌟✨ zazarb's Quick-Loans & Escrow 🌟🌟🌟🌟✨ on: March 05, 2017, 07:36:57 PM
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I am poplolnman from bitcointalk.org, today is 1/2/2017. I am asking for loan from zazarb 0.5 bitcoin with my account poplolnman as collateral. If I default my loan, zazarb will be the new owner of my account + privkey from this btc address 1Hmk1R1wDxDERFiBvfdEVU4HJVy8DWdvNM in terms 4 times repayment , 0.125 + 0.01 interest every 15 days.
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kindly send the coins here 1Hmk1R1wDxDERFiBvfdEVU4HJVy8DWdvNM

Thanks in advance

the repayment schedule would be

  17th jan,
  1 feb,
  16 feb,
  1 march,

accepted, signature verified.

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Hash: SHA512

This is zazarb from bitcointalk. Today is 2th., Jan. 2017

I have funded the Loan in the amount of 0.5 BTC to poplolnman via txid
77862915949f445d977dff3ee0760d00a7a86b9b2e68573e127ef0f02e6cadfe

Please repay
according to the following schedule:

  17th Jan,
  1th Feb,
  16th Feb,
  1th March,

0.54BTC total to following address: 1AxyPdVoRVkita9fnqCYaYZgssKvbzEpbL
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just sent the first payment as scheduled

687a739db703059f230c5c71befb000bde261b72b00c856fec3e31a1eb83d248

0.125+0.01

Next repayment would be

  1th Feb,
  16th Feb,
  1th March,

Thanks mate Wink
A little tip due the late payment

7c1f3f1ebd10d26f18337f6febf63307527486d09d6cdc659ad5f6d00a371d75

As discussed the repayment adjusted to the following schedule :

  18 feb,
  4 march,

Thanks mate really.
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unpaid loan of 0.125 + 0.125 + interest would be paid in the next two weeks in 18 feb

and a new loan payment schedule would be :

13.5 eth + 0.9 in 4 march
13.5 eth + 0.9 in 18 march
13.5 eth + 0.9 in 1 april
13.5 eth + 0.9 in 15 april

my eth address 0xd458401f56f0b3d73d0cb92e5fd276114d252981
as discussed in pm zazarb agree there would be some changes in my loan deal ,

first repayment done via this tx id 0x9c045bc34f47ac499e3d00a9ef6272bca30ea89f83a9f2955536eaf32ce107e9

next repayment :

6.75 eth + 1 in 18 march
6.75 eth + 1 in 1 april
6.75 eth + 1 in 15 april
6.75 eth + 1 in 29 april
6.75 eth + 1 in 13 june
13.5 eth + 1 in 27 june

thaknyou mate
1727  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why bitcoin is not supported in some countries? on: March 03, 2017, 07:49:46 AM
Many of the reason as to why some countries don't support bitcoin is mainly because the Government fears that they will lose the control over the money supply as well as of the economy. They control everyone in the country by control the money supply. and bitcoin tries to break this control of the state.


They could just make bitcoin as a secondary currency or just consider bitcoin as tools to transfer money. There's no point of fearing something that they can actually control easily just by limiting its power in the government.
The fact that they're still thinking that bitcoin is the source of criminalities make them don't have intention to accept its existence.
no , bitcoin are decentralized , it's uncontrollable. government who take action against bitcoin would have a tough condition in the future when a lot of country have been decide to accepting a new technology like bitcoin but then the opposition (who against bitcoin before) even struggle to accept the fact that the world has moving forward. let's see what would happened later in the future.
1728  Economy / Economics / Re: Let's Be Honest. We Are Waiting for $100/BTC to buy on: March 03, 2017, 07:32:03 AM
Indeed, if the price fall back to the point of 100$ per 1 bitcoin, that would be a good investment. Because the potential of this currency in a current period really unpredictable, but if it goes down even to 300$, I should say it's still improbably really profit investment
don't do it , it's would just hurt you for long time. i have been waiting for long time enough just to see the bitcoin price dropped to $600 or so but now i'm suffering , i have sold the whole bitcoin i have on $800 to $950 and now i'm struggle to set my buy position Sad . should i buy right now at $1,200 before the price skyrocketed? or waiting for another flash drop? i really tired and hope you didn't follow my decision Sad .
1729  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: In what situation would Bitcoin die? on: March 03, 2017, 07:16:36 AM
I think there are two ways Bitcoin could die:

1) Bitcoin could fail to get widespread adoption and acceptance by merchants, users, or investors so the demand could drop and then the value would drop.

2) Governments could ban Bitcoin or regulate it to the point that no one wants to use it any more.
adoption failure might happened , i just can't see the sign of it right now as everything so far run so good . a lot of new merchants popping up to accept bitcoin. and for the second reason i think there a lot of super power country like china and russia who has been ever banned bitcoin but the effort to prevent people to use bitcoin even makes the bitcoin adopter much more than before they ban bitcoin.
1730  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: When do you think is a good time to start trading ? on: March 03, 2017, 07:04:13 AM
I started from 0.0003 then making a profit there add additional 0.03 comes from my own wallet then its the start i made some money that time Deur altcoin was introduced to me to buy as much as i can that i can afford to lose luckily i earn big profits there .But in sone times after that i spread my investments loss some amounts but i earned lessons .
I can actually say that if you are ready to risk and invest your money without a problem in your head for you to focus having no worries in real life ,in short completely ready all aspects with you.
i think a person can start gambling at any time and there is not such rules to start trading but still i will like to add that if you have good experience in trading then you can increase he profit percentage from trading.
There are many rules in trading. Actually, experience isn't really the main factor to make a larger percentage of profit. It's upon the trader how he manage his trades, how often he trades, and how skilled he trade. It's a matter of knowledge in the other hand to make a bigger profit. Trading isn't easy to do since in just an hour, you can lose large percentage of your capital.
you can actually start trading anytime , but would be better when you have big capital enough to start so your time wouldn't wasted. you have to calculate everything include the time you spent , imagine if you start trading with 0.003 when if you get a job you might could earn 0.003 hourly. so makes sure you have prepared yourself include your financial situation , backup funds  etc and you are good to go .
1731  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to Win using martingale system? on: March 03, 2017, 06:40:21 AM
there are only 2 way that martingale works out. 1) start with a incredibly huge bankroll 2) If you dont have a massive bankroll, make your initial betsize really small so taht you last at least 20 losses in a row. martinglae's pretty dangerous as it can deplete your bankroll way faster than one would like or expect as the betsize will keep doubling up if you keep losing in a row. I know one of my friend who lost 26 rolls in a row. Probability of that happening is low but unfortunately it does happen. Just try to enjoy while you gamble and make sure you only gamble with what you can afford to lose.
huge bankroll doesn't mean you would guaranteed to win especially when you do it continuously , the house edge would find you out crossed the limit and then make you get a streaks lost , i have seen someone doing martingale in directbet dice few years ago and lost over 30 bitcoin! you can search it here he used darkcoin that time , martingale surely never work to make profit on any condition.
1732  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is it still worth it to trade? on: March 02, 2017, 09:48:17 PM
At this moment i think its not worth it because price of bitcoin now is growing maybe wait and hold it to get more profit. Bitcoin now is very valuable many now addicted to to earn bitcoin because they know is they trade it its very worth it.

It doesn't matter what the current price is when it comes to trading. All that matters is the market that is moving in a frequent manner as the volatility allows people to trade comfortably. If there is no volatility, then it's not worth it since the fees exchanges charge don't allow you to benefit from even the slightest price movements as was the case with Chinese exchanges at the time they didn't charge any fees. The only thing that matters for traders is volatility.
but considering current bitcoin price are so high i guess it's gonna be a problem for those people who have low amount capital only. as automatically it's make you to have a bigger capital to make it really worth. imagine when you buy 1 bitcoin with $500 only but now you have to buy it with $1200 to get $20 or $50 profit in the volatility. pretty contrast enough isn't it?
1733  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If Satoshi reveals himself, what would be of Bitcoin? on: March 02, 2017, 09:40:08 PM
We have just problems if Satoshis reveals, as most countris conside it ilegal, and not supporting, jail should be the place that would waiting him at this moment. Besides those huge problem some people would left if they see the creator is a bad person or some crazy person, the media would attack him too deeply, besides the fact that someone would get interested into their coins instant.
it doesn't makes any sense to take away satoshi to jail once he reveal himself. some institutions even propose him to receive a nobel prize in economics , really he deserve for that, how could you say so bad like that? seems like you are talking baseless full of speculation. bitcoin have done a lot of wonderful and helpful things in world economy and finance , nothing bad behind.
1734  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to quit Gambling for good? on: March 02, 2017, 09:07:59 PM
If you really want to quit in something that you really are good and somewhat a part of you already, It's going to be hard, maybe even the hardest too just because it's already a part of you. Especially when you are addicted to it. Just open your eyes and see if it's good for you or not. If it's not good, find a group that you sharw beliefs in, then you can over come it.
It would really be hard if you dont help yourself because the first thing should be done is the determination on quiting gambling because if you dont have this all actions or aims would be useless.Seeking help from others would do but be sure to help yourself first.
lol , to help yourself you need other people helps sometimes (a professional help for example) . as gambling addiction are a serious issue , it was addictive since first day you decide to gamble, don't blame anyone else . you might would always facing a heavy days while actually you have a desire to fully quit gambling. you need more than just a medicine to quit from this kind disease.
1735  Economy / Economics / Re: Why the price of Bitcoin change more than traditional currencies? on: March 02, 2017, 08:57:48 PM
Bitcoin is more volatile than traditional currency because-
1. It is non-regulated and move up/down owning to customers' demand.
2. The bitcoin market is still so small, addition and exclusion of users cause fluctuations daily.
3. Bitcoin is comsidered less of currency and more of investment by people thus creating speculation impact.
the point are noone would know the bitcoin price movement as bitcoin are decentralized not like any other currency around the would that actually regulated by banks and it's just make them centralized also have stable price. while the whole bitcoin available supply are owned by a lot of people from different places and it makes bitcoin unpredictable to move up or down, the sure thing are bitcoin has a very high volatile due it's decentralized system.
1736  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: March 02, 2017, 08:30:22 PM
If you are going to take gambling seriously for sure it can make your life controlled by it. It's hard to see people that are being manipulated by their own addiction and that isn't smart at all. But if you are going to let the game roll in your hands without any emotion but to have fun and have some small portion of winning, then you are doing it good.

Emotions definitely has nothing to do with being addicted. It is part of your brain that actually made it happen, when you think of it as a source of making money ( I mean the only source of making money ) then you are going to be addicted to it especially when you win quite an amount from the site
i think emotins are one of the key factors in gambling if you have full control over your emotions then you can certainly decrease the risk in of losing money in gambling, but if you do not have control over your emotions then there are more chance to lose your money.
As quoted emotions are key factors in all forms of loss. Not only with gambling, but with trading and all other commercial prospects too emotions affect much. With gambling when loss happens people get frustrated and tries to retain the loss which once again leads to failure because decision made on frustrated mentality will be the cause.
yeah that's right , anything involve making money required a full control over your emotion. it would always bring a disaster when you let yourself act so wild following something non sense in your mind. ignore it and be wise on any decision you make. you might could get a smooth game rather than to become worst.
1737  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: March 02, 2017, 08:18:37 PM
- I do not know for fun or for profit, I gamble because I like and I want something to do while bored. I'm not interested about profit because i know the win in gambling is unlikely to happen, play gamble makes me comfortable and reduces stress
- You will feel fun when you play a game and if you have a little profit, fun will double. However we should not think too much about it, let's play in a relaxed manner, if we think too much about it, we will be sad and disappointed when we lose
'gamble when you bored' , it's clearly explain everything i guess . you are gambling for having fun. i know there is a lot of people with a taste like you , really not consider gambling as income source , but as a way to get some exclusives entertainment , not to take gambling too serious that usually leading to a stressful instead to reduces stress.
1738  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What do you think of people that treat Bitcoin solely as an investment? on: March 01, 2017, 03:12:38 PM
I think it's reasonable since bitcoin have high value and ever reach as high as gold so whenever who invest into bitcoin , they already made a great choice for their future investment.
By seeing bitcoin value based on graph , bitcoin become the great investment I've ever see compare gold
When the bitcoin started we were all talking about a new currency that is going to change the whole idea of using the money on the internet, but after a couple of years the price was really high that it has become more of an investment and people saving and buying it, and the ones who believed in it a long time ago are really lucky.
it's really about how a new era of currency work , the high price won't make it stopped considered as a real currency. it could be a new trend, just the matter of time whether people can accept bitcoin condition with its volatility? or bitcoin will gone as a virtual stock forever? the decision are always in our hand so just make your own choice and let's see.
There are not only one person who handle bitcoin we are all who handle with bitcoin like you said the decision is in our hand if bitcoin will be still alive or not.. but for now its impossible that bitcoin will be gone in industry.. since many website and company right now are accepting bitcoin as payment and there are some country that actually accepting bitcoin as local currency.. the price increase is not a problem since the price is slowly increase yearly.
my concern always on how a currency like bitcoin have a huge value compared to any other currency, common people would feel so worry with that condition. merchant could make a rejection anytime once they feel bitcoin aren't fit anymore to the world financial and how most currency works. i hope that scenario would never ever happened , with the volatility and high price it's make bitcoin used as investment rather than a currency.
1739  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you like slot games ? on: March 01, 2017, 03:03:01 PM
I prefer most to play in real slot games. I don't like to play it on online.

Well yeah its a whole lot fun if you play the actual slot as its a loy more interesting than online slots. Though i general im niy reslly a fan of this game. Mostly, i just play slots when i have bonuses from sites or if i have extra satoshis from trading. And in all those times i've played slots, not once did i win a single time
I do not like slot games either in the real world or on the internet. Slot games are so boring and I keep wondering why there are so many people like these games. Spending money in slot is not as profitable as other type of gambling and I never want to spend my money in this activity. I rather spend it on horse racing. It is more entertaining
those people who keep depositing their money into casino account to play slots are the one who believe that someday they can get the huge jackpot with their luck. so actually at first time they play for the sake of fun try their luck but then the lost was too deep and make they have to chase it until that previous lost covered. this is clearly a big mistake in gambling. but slots game has a strong unique charm.
1740  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does experience matter in gambling? on: March 01, 2017, 02:51:52 PM
Experience does not matter in gambling and in fact experience gives even more loss compared to a new gambler in my opinion as you can see that when a gambler is new he/she wins a lot while with time in long term they always loose.

If you talking about game such a dice, that probably happens because he/she (newbie) have more luck.

It's different story if that newbie haven't experience playing game such a poker, sportbetting which the game required skill and experience too.

we need experience before we could be a pro gamblers because with experience, we can learn many thing that we know like if we are in one situations and we already seen this, we can make fast solution so if something bad is happen, we have another way to cover it and if we have loss, our loses its not too much and we can continue the games.
so you think experience help you out to control the situation? how can it affected to the outcome of your bet? no, nothing? of course it's nothing to do with experience when it comes to gambling everything are uncertain, i admit an experience might help a little bit but it's not necessary to have it to get started.

There are actually 2 experienced people in terms of gambling - 1 is the type of addicted to gambling and has been gambling for a longer period of time and the number 2 is the once equipped with strategies and skilled. Call the latter as professional gambler. Now, who do you think will win most and has the edge? Now, is it safe that experienced is a big factor to gambling? The answer is qualified no. Because not all experienced gamblers are professional gamblers.
so you think a professional gambler are not addicted? i think everyone who gamble for long time enough could considered as addicted. and i believe that even a professional gambler have a problem with stopping to gamble itself. they are too loving gamble to leave it as they know how the feeling make money easily through a fun way . experience in gambling just a plus value.
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