I tried to withdraw some doge coin on fortunejack yesterday. It did not go through but showing complete in fortune jack transaction list. I have emailed customer service and used the web form to get help several times and no one has responded to me.
Whats up with that? The site says 24/7 customer service on it. That's a complete lie.
Aha, their customer support sucks indeed, I emailed them before and I got response for 2 day, 24/7 looks like a lie and exaggeration of marketing, but actually I don't find something they really are worth playing here, I wanna save my money and keep away from here.   I reminded they modify the tricky bonus terms and video poker house edge stats, besides they have 100% wrong wager amount of 14 Million, but they never listen to us. This is a casino never hears people's voice, really bad experience here. Don't follow up on that post please. Just because we did not change the bonus terms or the video poker winning amount for "Kings or Better" means we do not listen to our customers or that support system is bad? All those three things you mentioned here have nothing to do with the customer support system. I replied in the past that bonus terms and "Kings or Better" were working as intended. We increased the winning on "Three of a Kind" and "Two Pair" but decreased on few others. |
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Okay, I will ignore the stats from bitcoinstrip. Still I have 3 data points, that I personally got straight from your website. These numbers are correctly taken from your site. I know all stats started with 0 on 2014-09-09. I know the stats of 2015-01-10 so I can calculate the daily average between those 2 dates (first 123 days). And I know the stats of today, so I can calculate the average daily between 2015-01-10 and now (257 days.) This results in: 2015-01-10 in BTC daily in BTC 2015-09-24 in BTC daily in BTC
BTC 23,565 BTC 23,565 BTC 191 BTC 10,570,963 BTC 10,570,963 BTC 41,040 BTC
NVC 1,008,077 NVC 4,365 BTC 35 BTC 1,206,989 NVC 5,226 BTC 3 BTC
PPC 1,005,193 PPC 1,658 BTC 13 BTC 1,680,837 PPC 2,773 BTC 4 BTC
NMC 1,002,993 NMC 1,655 BTC 13 BTC 1,147,817 NMC 1,894 BTC 1 BTC
DASH 105,758 DASH 1,108 BTC 9 BTC 100,300,583 DASH 1,050,977 BTC 4,085 BTC
DOGE 685,105,819 DOGE 356 BTC 3 BTC 14,664,444,075 DOGE 7,625 BTC 28 BTC
RDD 8,572,105,491 RDD 343 BTC 3 BTC 39,762,845,194 RDD 1,590 BTC 5 BTC
LTC 8,343 LTC 104 BTC 1 BTC 200,305,652 LTC 2,489,799 BTC 9,688 BTC
CLAM 8,105 CLAM 48 BTC 0 BTC 150,369 CLAM 895 BTC 3 BTC
TOTAL 33,202 BTC 270 BTC 14,132,013 BTC 54,859 BTC Do you see how these stats look wrong? 1) I found it odd that NVC, PPC, NMC are all just about a million on the first data point, but I am willing to ignore that as it could be coincidence. 2) For the first 123 days, you had a daily avg of 270 BTC in total. And the 257 days after that, a daily avg of 54,859 BTC. I'm sure your site got more popular, but seems extreme? 3) Note how almost all altcoins aren't popular except DASH and LTC with HUGE amounts. LTC is claimed to have more 5x more wagered than PrimeDice's BTC daily wagered. PD is the most popular dice site BY FAR and AFAIK the most popular BTC gambling site. Even DASH is 2x more than PD BTC. Anyone active in the cryptocurrency gambling community, knows that altcoins do not have that kind of gambling volume in BTC terms. Even JD doesn't have that with their CLAM wagered amounts. The fact that your other altcoins have barely wagered volume, shows this furthermore. 4) I find it odd that it seems like DASH got exactly 100M added (300k would be exactly correct based on daily of first 123 days) and it seems like 200M was added to LTC. But sure, this "could" be a coincidence. 5) Just the fact that you claim to have 54,859 BTC daily wagered should be enough.. That is 27x times more wagered than PD and still 4x more than JD with BTC times. Everyone who was active on JD know how crazy action there was, 100 BTC spam-bets were almost not a big deal. 6) Based on your wagered amounts, you should have an expected profit 141,320 till 565,280 BTC in ~8 months (based on 1% HE - 4% HE.) That is simply impossible. 7) You have a max bet of 1 BTC on your dice game. With these wagered amounts and expected profits, you should be able to afford HUGE max bets.  Just because you have a lot of different games, altcoins and some bonus program, doesn't magically make your site more popular by these insane factors. I find it odd that you try to defend this. I personally assumed you would say there was a silly mistake and it would be fixed. That you really claim that these numbers are correct, is sketchy to me. Those numbers and tables you are trying to bring up are wrong and has nothing to do with our database, and there is no way you could have access to that kind of information. However, we approve there was a bug counting it. One of the games (fortune wheel) was excluded from the trigger for a short period of time (when we changed our currency rates provider) and the bets were summed up without multiplying it on an exchange rate. The issue was fixed later, but the wager forgetfully remained untouched. It took some time to analyse the code and history of FortuneJack updates. We think exaggerating total wager would be a cheap marketing trick and would never distribute wager that high on the landing page on purpose, knowing it would raise a lot of questions in a highly curious community like Bitcointalk. |
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Hey Please Count me in !!
Name: everaja
Posts: 712
Activity: 280
Position: Sr. Member
Fortunejack username: everaja
regards,
Welcome! |
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Thanks. But, tbh, I personally don't see how it can be that much. I only got stats per currency on 10 jan 2015, so I could make the following calculations: 2014-09-09 0 2015-01-10 23,565 BTC + 1,008,077 NVC (4365 BTC) + 1,005,193 PPC (1658 BTC) + 1,002,993 NMC (1655 BTC) + 105,758 DASH (1108 BTC) + 685,105,819 DOGE (356 BTC) + 8,572,105,491 RDD (343 BTC) + 8,343 LTC (104 BTC) + 8,105 CLAM (48 BTC) = 33202 BTC 2015-08-25 14123010 BTC (According to thebitcoinstrip you had 9003 BTC wagered in last 30 days) 2015-09-24 14132013 BTC So this makes the following daily average bets: Between 2014-09-09 and 2015-01-10 (123 days): 270 BTC per day Between 2015-01-10 and 2015-08-25 (227 days): 62.069 BTC per day Between 2015-08-25 and 2015-09-24 (30 days): 300 BTC per day As you can see 300 BTC per day seems realistic, but 62.069 BTC per day is pretty impossible. These are daily average of other sites (BTC only and only stats from my site so not since start of sites which actually results in relatively higher amounts for most sites): JD (during BTC time): 14.420 BTC per day (remember this was with daily crazy highroller action)
Primedice: 2.022 BTC per day
PocketRocketsCasino.eu 426 BTC per day
BitDice.me 324 BTC per day
Rollin 264 BTC per day
SatoshiDice.com 222 BTC per day
BetterBets 222 BTC per day
SafeDice 112 BTC per day
Peerbet 20 BTC per day
dicenow 17.5 BTC per day As you can see, 62.069 BTC per day is quite unrealistic. Are you sure you don't have some calculation error with the alt coins? Would you mind sharing per currency stats like you did before? Either way I do not think anything bad (as in scam etc) about FortuneJack at all(!) I just think there is a mistake in the wagered amount calculation. good stats, 60K BTC per day is impossible for an infamous casino in fiat world, or famous btc casino, it is possible for a famous fiat casino, it is an obvious exaggeration of marketing. We do not know how the bitcoin strip counts the numbers, but they are absolutely incorrect. None of those numbers provided on the website is valid. Even if that data is based on truth as you say, they distribute 10 mi BTC wagered that highly contradicts your arguments. Nevertheless, it is totally unfair to compare Fortunejack with JD, PD or any other website that offers only dice in their portfolio. Here at fortunejack we provide 400+ Slot Games and 11 different game categories, together with 10 crypto currencies in total, just think about that. Actually, FJ is the only casino in the industry offering these features combined with unbeatable loyalty program, and that is exactly what makes us unique. Info since 8th of September 2014: Total bets placed: 2,300,000,000 (still counting) Average bet size: 0.007 BTCIn addition, what you got wrong is average of 230 online players on the website per minute, not 230 players per day, that number is way higher. With all the respect to the bitcoin community, we think that distributing 'amount wagered per game category' is a sensitive data for the company and we prefer not to discose it. |
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Payments have been made!
The users pureelite, ticoti and faince222 have left the campaign because they have been inactive for at least 3 weeks. So we have 3 more spots open. Feel free to join if you meet the requirements!
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@NLNico they apply 0.00001% Kelly risk. I never get response how they offer 2% house edge while same game from the same provider at a different casino has 5%-10% house edge. New slots from 8 different providers, 2% House Edge, available on 8 different currencies! Good Luck Playing!!
It is up to casino (operator) to decide the house edge of the games integrated, they can even be set on 200% RTP (Return to Player) if needed, I remember writing you about this. But it was a 2 month period to promote the newly integrated games. As for today, Slot games operate on 4% House Edge. Regarding the amount wagered, we have requested detailed explanation of 14 mi from our dev. department and we will be glad to share it with you as soon as they prepare it. So there is a possibility to set house edge to 70% and there is no way for us to calculate house edge. We must trust operator. Abosulutely, you are right. However, most of the casinos operate on 90% - 95% RTP, while FortuneJack offers 4% house edge on Slots Games + up to 20% rakeback with loyalty points credited while playing. We also provide 21 Provably Fair Slot games to satisfy players with different needs and standards. |
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@NLNico they apply 0.00001% Kelly risk. I never get response how they offer 2% house edge, while same game from same provider at different casino has 5%-10% house edge. New slots from 8 different providers, 2% House Edge, available on 8 different currencies! Good Luck Playing!!  It is up to casino (operator) to decide the house edge of the games integrated, they can even be set on 200% RTP (Return to Player) if needed, I remember writing you about this. But it was a 2 month period to promote the newly integrated games. As for today, Slot games operate on 4% House Edge. Regarding the amount wagered, we have requested detailed explanation of 14 mi from our dev. department and we will be glad to share it with you as soon as they prepare it. |
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I have been wondering this for a while now and I know others have too. I will keep the first question simple :p
Are the wagered stats of 14+ million BTC on the homepage correct?
Hello, we accept 10 crypto currencies in total and the amount distributed on the main page (14mi), is the sum of all crypto currencies wagered in all games, converted into BTC. The number is absolutely correct. |
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Anncouncement: The campaign is full at the moment, but if I don't hear from WhatTheGox soon, I will make one more space available.
We are glad to have you in our twitter campaign!
Reminder: If you are unsure whether you are in the campaign or not, check the first post in this topic.
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Announcement: We have decided to expand the maximum number of participants to 45.
At this point I am considering these four members and I am waiting for them to confirm their participation:
WhatTheGox
Oksid
bitjamz
foreveryoung
Apart from these four, there are 11 more slots. So feel free to post your twitter information.
Clarification regarding tweets: All the new(maximum 4 tweets) tweets from FortuneJack have to be retweeted. Retweeting just two new tweets and then two from the previous week will not count. And also, check out our casino more to make constructive tweets. I am not asking to make high bets and gamble, but just tweet something constructive, something unique. "Fortunejack is Good Casino" or "Go and Play at FortuneJack Casino" is not considered a constructive tweet. You can try many of our games for free too with FortuneJack Currency(FJC).
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Payments have been made.
Acharias needs to PM me about his situation as he did not retweet this week. He did not get the payment but I need to make sure he is not going to continue.
maxhor needs to tweet more constructively next time. He just copied what we wrote on the main page. If i am wrong and he has other constructive tweet, he is free to prove me wrong.
qwed, bitstealth and nahl did not make constructive posts this week. Again, unless they prove me wrong with a link of the constructive tweet they made, they won't get payment this week.
Regarding the new users:
As I said we are currently full unless I kick some of the players who don't follow the requirements in the next few days. I don't mean to be rude but I am not answering every single post to the potential new participants here. Keep in mind that our campaign has reached maximum amount of participants and it does not feel good to reject each new potential participant separately. Thank you for your interest in our campaign though.
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As I said, the campaign is full. But of course if several participants continue not to meet the requirements this week, I will drop them from the list. Regarding the waiting list - I will automatically consider the users who wrote their twitter information in this topic earlier than other potential participants.
This is what I did during the second week of this campaign. I just checked whoever was first and started from them.
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At this point the campaign is full. But if some players will not meet the requirements for this week till Thursday, then there will be few new spots and I will add more members.
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У нас очень много игроков, в том числе русскоязычные. Нас основной топик на этом форуме находиться по адресу - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=774929А также обратите внимание что у нас в казино появилась русскоязычная версия и поддержка на русском языке. |
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