I'm not sure that I can run virtual box on an AMD C50 (5 year old APU) with 500MB of RAM.  But maybe I'm wrong.  In any case, it runs Linux with no problem and I used to play daily on seal on my linux laptop and on my phone when commuting.  In general, it sounds like you take my point.  If they ever do come through with some sort of android client or a linux client, or even a Windows client that runs on WINE, then I'm still here and I'll jump back on.

I think it was me, actually. 

In any case, people should know that gorgon666 (the OP) is an alt of Quickseller.  defcon23 is not.

Last time I logged in was last time they had software for a system that I have access to.  I think it was in December of 2014, IIRC.  You can say the new software is "more stable".  But I wouldn't know because I've never been able to get it to work at all.  I tried it with WINE and they laughed at me (upthread).


Ok, I'd rather play at swc too, but they stil (after 1.5 years) haven't come up with any software that I can run.

Maybe Quickseller can go ahead and lock this thread, at least temporarily, while these guys cool off and discuss privately.

That part seems sketchy to me.  But apparently the negative feedback was actually related to some previous incident with defcon23?  I said above that it seems like bad judgment to me.

Time to read the thread dude.  The main reason why is that their old, cross-platform, working software was abandoned for a buggy, windows-only software.  I think the majority of the old players simply cannot connect or when the do connect there are too many bugs.

From what I can tell, Lauda offered defcon a low price for a physical coin in an IRC.  Defcon refused to sell.  Lauda fucked around with him in the chatroom.  That's what I've been able to gather so far.

That seems well within his prerogative and not shady at all.  I wouldn't want to get involved in disputes that don't involve me.

I sorta thought that part was a joke.


Well, if it is the case that he at first refused to intervene, and the dispute was over 1 year old, then he later intervened with a negative directly after you refused to trade with him, that seems like poor judgment.  I don't know what Lauda will say, but in the end, trust isn't moderated and we've long had known scammers on default trust.  I assume this is your issue, that Lauda is somewhere in the default trust network and that his feedback is damaging your rep.

Lol, forget about it, I see what you did there.

Anyway, if the OP is just doing this with a small amount of bitcoin, there's also the possibility to use a relatively easy to remember private key.  Remember that at the end of the day, a private key is just a large number and there are many ways to write down a number (binary, decimal, hex, ascii, base64, etc).  For example, say you used base64 and the private key was actually a phrase which was relatively easy to remember.  Then, to use the key, the OP would have to convert it into hex or WIF or whatever format his wallet software uses and generate the two addresses associated with it.  As I said, if there's only a small amount of bitcoin there, it would be interesting to see if anyone takes it or if it sits there safely.

And what was that exactly?  He was impatient about buying something from you?  He refused to get involved in some dispute between you and Vod?  I don't understand.

I like how quickseller thinks that people PGP encrypt PMs on IRC

If you're having a private discussion with someone and you then later publish that discussion then it's certainly an aggressive act.  It's also not clear that these screenshots aren't simply faked.  Anyone can use any username on IRC and it's really not hard to do a little image editing anyway.  In any case, it's not clear to me what defcon is accusing him of.  If the screenshots are real then it looks like Lauda wanted to buy some item or another and was feeling impatient, then it looks like he refused to get involved in a personal dispute between Vod and defcon.  what's the accusation here?

I think you certainly could memorize a private key, but it would probably have to be a private key with low entropy.  Consider, 0 is a private key, so is 64 'f's.  But you really don't want to use either of those keys to generate your bitcoin addresses.  As you said, brainwallet effectively let people memorize phrases that hashed to keys, but we've all learned that that actually doesn't provide enough entropy to be secure.  You could probably make a private key out of 1-f, 19cafebabe5... but you'd have a low entropy key based on the fact that it was memorizable.  I dunno, if you don't keep too much money there, it might be a fun experiment to see what happens.

I think this isn't a bad idea.  People love free money.  In order for it to become actually viable with the types of people you're talking about (clubs, dealerships, people selling things) then bitcoin would have to become a large bit more popular and accessible.  As easy and fun as bitcoin actually is, a lot of people still just consider it "for hackers".  Nevertheless, I think your idea isn't too bad.

I'm in the same boat.  I used to love seals.  While it wasn't actually how I first found bitcoin, it was one of the first things I did with bitcoin when I found it.  They had an open and accessible platform, no bullshit, no collecting personal data, etc.  Beautiful.

I finally came to grips that seals actually died back in the day and swc is simply not sealwithclubs.  It's a different site with different management and different principles.  The new site is focused on Windows players and we see how that worked out.  As far as I can tell, it's just a long slow deathride here.  It's unfortunate but we may as well come to grips with the reality.  Pretending it's not real doesn't make it any less real.

gorgon666 added to the list of likely Quickseller alts

This.

A little bit sarcastic, but I couldn't agree more.  These guys' promises of stuff with "no definitive timeline" seems to mean not actually going to happen at all.

Right, unfortunately there's also a lot of "politicization" here, people start developing into camps.  Those in one camp defend their cohort unthinkingly and attack the other camp equally viscously.  People resort to character smears, all kinds of nastiness.  Somehow, you have to kinda know something about who hates who when looking at trust ratings in order to apply the appropriate amount of "grains of salt" to that rating.

QS has never argued from facts.  Anyone who takes the time to read through his many attack posts (I don't really recommend it) will quickly find the weasel-words, the emotional appeal, and the convoluted structure.  In short, he drops walls of text which at first glance seems like an argument, until you actually unpack it and realize it's mountains of unsubstantiated claims with a few walletexplorer links thrown in.  What's funny to me about this thread is that the OP's actual complaint is connected to this QS directly.  I don't know about the pharmacist and I don't spend anywhere near as much time on here as I used to, but QS was on of the main people doing exactly that sort of trust-spamming trust-echoing in an effort to get onto Default Trust.  Presumably, he would have eventually pulled some sort of giant exit scam, but he was caught doing some minor stealing of escrow fees and lying about his identity and so he was removed and since then we just have bitter QS who throws random claims at dooglus once a month.

All I'm saying is that the OP's complaint of people abusing the trust system, and people jockeying to be the next one on default trust does exist.  I'm not saying that cryptodevil or the pharmacist are guilty of it.

So, what about the old software that worked well, allowed players from all platforms, even had a custom android app working... Any chance we can go back to the good old days when the software worked for everyone?

Friends seems nice.  So does turning on/off notifications.   I might pop back in to see if I still know anyone there.  Thanks!