"TrustUSD" (sic) appears to be a complete rip off of the late and unlamented Base/Basis nonsense stablecoin scheme, shorn of details of how the removal of the "bond" support* proposed there would be replaced, presumably by a unicorn smart contract. *think how security offering attitudes have changed in the 2 1/2 years since. That pile of unnecessarily complex garbage thinking, "bullshit baffles brains" was shilled by John Taylor of Taylor Rule fame, and a nearly Head of the Fed if Trump had had his way. I note that the Dangermouse character behind this Trust (lol) thing likes to pose on Twitter in his MAGA hat. Just a couple of examples of completely coincidental ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) similarities which abound between the $132,000,000 failure 2017/18 "Basis" scheme and the destined to fail 2020 "TrustUSD" copycat scheme.For example, to start off, 1 TrustUSD token is established to target $1 USD. TrustUSD could potentially even eclipse the dollar and be updated to peg to a consumer price index (CPI), similar to how central banks hit inflation targets today. The TrustUSD protocol accomplishes this by algorithmically adjusting the supply of TrustUSD tokens in response to changes in, for example, the TrustUSD exchange rate. This implements a monetary policy similar to that is also executed by central banks around the world, except we operate as a decentralized, protocol-enforced algorithm, without the need for direct human judgment as opposed to traditional banking algorithms. For example, to start off, 1 Basis can be pegged to always trade for 1 USD. In the future, Basis could potentially even eclipse the dollar and be updated to peg to a consumer price index (CPI) or basket of goods, similar to how central banks hit inflation targets today. The Basis protocol accomplishes this by algorithmically adjusting the supply of Basis tokens in response to changes in, for example, the Basis-USD exchange rate. This implements a monetary policy similar to that executed by central banks around the world, except it operates as a decentralized, protocol-enforced algorithm, without the need for direct human judgment.. Measuring Exchange Rates with Oracle Systems Since the price of TrustUSD in the markets is exogenous to the blockchain, the system must rely on a decentralized or centralized price oracle to estimate the true exchange rate. There are multiple ways oracle systems can be implemented into TrustUSD: • Trusted Feed. This method is the simplest method that allows a source to upload real world exchange rates from large trustworthy exchanges to a smart contract. • Decentralized Delegation Feed. This method isn't 100% decentralized, but it allows holders of TrustUSD tokens to vote on a select number of price-feed uploaders. This method also can prevent price manipulation by allowing token holders to vote out users with bad intentions. Measuring the Exchange Rate First, we explain how the Basis blockchain obtains the Basis-USD exchange rate. Since this information is external to the blockchain, the Basis protocol must implement what is known as an oracle system, i.e., a system that uploads outside information to a blockchain. This can be implemented in several ways: • Trusted feed. The simplest approach is to have a single feed that uploads the real-world exchange rate to the blockchain, say from Coinbase, Kraken, or another large exchange. This is obviously a point of centralization, but it bears mentioning nonetheless. • Delegated decentralized feed. A semi-decentralized approach is to select a small group of feed uploaders by vote from holders of Basis... If any bad actor is consistently identified as trying to corrupt the feed, they can be voted out of the system by coin-holders .. Ad nauseum..
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And what a strange bunch we are. We should have a pool: who's going to be the last (wo)man standing? 20 now, 16 next month, then 13, 10, ... and at some point 2 years from now the last DT1 who never lost will lose his spot for the first time. I put my money on theymos ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Theymos is out ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) me too ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif)
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If the following is true, I don't think this is really a ponzi scheme "scam" as the owner can't just run off with the balance. From the website: snip
I guess this is off topic a bit, but what if they had a provably fair system that determined when the ponzi would collapse, each investment was x% less likely to trigger the collapse and the owner always profited x% of total investments. Would it still be a ponzi scheme? It sounds kind of fun. You use the "if" word twice there in important contexts. The idea of "Ponzi Games" is not new, it's always been a half hearted (false) defense by the HYIP industry that everybody knew what these schemes were about and that there were no deceived victims, only winners and losers. It was a lie of course, admin could pack the pyramid and rig the payouts in their own favor. They were not 'provably fair'. The advent of smart contracts may have changed that and, if the player is competent enough to "audit the code" and make an informed decision, it could be argued that there is no deception and that it is just a form of provably fair gambling. With no deception involved, i.e. no imaginary forex, arbitrage, mining, etc. context, then they can be called "Ponzi Games" as opposed to "Ponzi Schemes." Sounds pretty dull to me, but whatever floats your boat.
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There was never anything special about $0.65 as a number, apart from it being the price at which pre-listers got suckered in, so why is it now a "target"? The actual rationale for $0.65 being chosen by BBOD is suspect, not to say bullshit We decided to find the most similar exchange to gauge the potential value of BBD, by taking into account the following factors: products offering age token economics Our pick is FTX (ftx.com). This exchange is relatively young – it was launched in May 2019, and similarily offers numerous futures contracts on Bitcoin and Altcoins which are stablecoin-settled. Token economics assumes offering a substantial fee discount for FTT holders. There are 350,000,000 total FTT tokens. On 29th July 2019, the price of the FFT token at the close of the first day of listing was $1.65 (based on the ftx spot market). This means that market capitalisation based on a fully diluted number of tokens was 350,000,000 * 1.65 = 577,500,000 USD. Fully diluted number of BBD tokens (Max. supply) equals 275,803,582. If BBD tokens were offered at the same valuation, this implies that the BBD token would be offered at the price 577,500,000 / 275,803,582 = $2.0938 or 2.0938 USD per 1 BBD token. However, we decided to offer BBD tokens with a 70% discount in relation to the FTT valuation at the first day of listing. The BBD tokens will be offered at the base price $0.65 or 0.65 USD per 1 BBD during the first day of the listing at BBOD.
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A BTC cloud mining scheme offering over 400% and in some cases 500% profits for our investors 300-400% ROI In a short period Investor Games is the place for you, pal.
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Hmmm. So it's New Years Day, and Jessica here decides to register on a Bitcoin forum, necro this thread and tell us how good "Adrian Gonzalez" is at recovering money (supposedly lost on a dating site, so probably not crypto anyway). Hmmm. There is indeed such an entity as him posting, seemingly soberly, on Quora and boasting a CV full of buzzwords. As most people get ripped off in the first place by NOT doing their due diligence maybe now would be the time to start doing it, starting with Mr. Gonzalez impressive list of qualifications. NEVER give anyone money upfront is a good credo.
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Over two years to create a disappointing mess. The only upside is they seem too incompetent to be scammers.
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Today is Erikson Partners Day. On their one page website they carry the full color, deluxe version, heraldic Global Wealth Fund stolenfromFacebook logo. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FuVIfl7Q.png&t=664&c=HscpC8uwwLuvdA) They claim the Chrysler Building as their HQ (who doesn't?) and position themselves as a media company. Brand exploration & development Corporate imaging Content creation Public relations Print & digital adveritising(sic) Media purchases Campaign management There's a profile doing this sort of shit floating around, which claims a rl identity (not many of those with GWF) which may or may not be fake. If Kylee is real then she's only a foot soldier. We're looking for the generals. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F04evBPj.png&t=664&c=bv-amBc_MCrFeA) Erikson plug other GWF companies, especially Privato and our sulking Templar Fund friend, using Quora mainly. Apart from other GWF entities, on their scrolling "Partners and Clients" list Erikson also claim relations with Apollo Fund (doesn't exist with that logo), the " Global Blockchain Foundation" and "Adventia Health". These last two are real wormholes. GBF (sorry 'bout all the acronyms) appears to be one of those grand sounding cryptosphere fakes which have sprung up over the years, claiming to be authentic and organizing "Seminars" and the like for substantial fees and then, either not delivering or attempting to legitimize scams thru them. Under the label "Blockchain Investors Summit" Ghode is accused of scamming $3.5k from a would be exhibitor.Just look at this bunch of "Blockchain experts" that crawled out from under their rocks in Singapore.... Erikson's actual function for or relationship to them/him ( Pankajj P. Ghode) is not immediately clear as he don't reciprocate with a media partner listing for Erikson. Adventia Health...is a care agency in Texas, but that's not what we're looking for, because there's Adventia Capital LLC "of Dubai"..... (wormhole alert)They claim to be Headquartered in Dubai, Adventia Capital manages more than $40B in assets around the world. and they got themselves a real live Rothschild!!!! An interested Applicant shall submit a Letter of Interest and Resume to Michael J. Rothschild, Chairman of the Board of Directors, This comes from an Adventia job advert, for a "no experience required" (sic) Portfolio Manager, (a remote working boiler room)... Also advertised by Adventia Capital LLC Dubai is a similar job, but for another Global Wealth scam company, Principatus Insurance (see a couple of posts back). Oh, and guess what, there is no Adventia Capital LLC, No Adventia Associates, "headquartered" in Dubai or anywhere else and they don't manage $40b in assets. And there isn't a Michael J. Rothschild. So, that's Erikson Partners, possibly the coordinating part of Global Wealth Funds media management, with a sideline in its own shit.
And, just to tidy up a couple of outliers before I get to an effort post about the core of Global Wealth Fund's lies and sham companies (GWF is centered very much on the currently very fashionable Magic Money Making Machines: cue buzzwords AI, algorithms, machine learning, portfolio management, passive investment. And it's a bunch of fucking lies..) Outliers MyBitcoinDude.com
Appears to be an attempt at a "hip" P2P exchange. I'm a world traveller. Private jets & chartered yachts. Yeah, I live the good life. But you know what? I worked hard for these perks. I spent years building something good & sold it for more money than what was fair. I got sick of the rat race. Sick of regulations. Sick of people looking over my shoulder. And amidst my whiskey & women and retirement fun, I found Bitcoin. And then I realized that all I wanted to do was trade Bitcoin. I wanted to earn my cash while cruising this entire globe. Lol, sounds like Joby Weeks.How or why anyone with that (rather enviable) CV would want to become a subsidiary of the outre Global Wealth Fund scam group, I have no idea. Nice fiction tho. Links to a wallet with BTC860 transactions for the first six months of this year and then stopped dead in June. Myprepaidcryptocard.com Slightly more mainstream is Myprepaidcryptocard.com which is part of GWF according to its Wyoming Mail Forwarding address and "visit corporate website" link to Rosslyn (scroll up, that's the central part with the fake banks. Keep up.) MPPCC claims The CryptoCard is a prepaid debit Visa card issued by a top-5 USA bank in partnership with our USA company. Q:Is CryptoCard regulated? A: Yes, the CryptoCard is provided by Rosslyn Technology (licensed in the USA). Err, complete bullshit. Rosslyn aren't licensed to sweep streets. Today our cards are located in more than 120 countries and service more than 1,000,000 transactions per day. And your website gets 34 visits a day....and shares hosting with two other GWF entities, plus a couple of not yet devved exchange scams? edison.fund corlissglobal.com gbit.exchange globalbitcoin.exchange
Up next: where does the Templar Fund (and others) Magick Money software really come from?
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when clicking in "show new replies to your posts" I get some old threads that I do not want to follow/read anymore. How do I remove them from showing up ?
You can't. Use the "watchlist" function instead for stuff you're interested in from day to day, and the "show new..." like an archive.
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No-one would describe themselves as a " virtue signaller", it's only used in a dismissively critical way (perjorative) and it's a new thing (neologism). What is a person accused of it actually doing, to attract this description? According to the critic, they are guilty of employing an expressed concern for moral values as a device to show themselves off as morally concerned, rather than just making a moral point, so it shares some of the characteristics of an " ad hominem".. In practice, it seems to be used by right at left politically, a bit like "snowflake". Like all insults/dismissals, it says as much about the user as the target. <edit>...It would be like some one who chastises some one and talks about how important being vegan is, then goes home to their leather couch and enjoys a nice steak.
That's just plain old hypocrisy, I'd have thought. Edit: and so's this, just pure hypocrisy. Yes, also like Bernie Sanders advocating socialism, while owning 3 mansions, being filthy rich, and paying a lower tax rate than... Someone else.. Rules for thee but not for me, sort of thing.. One who does not "practice what you preach"
Using the term "virtue signal" is a bit more nuanced than that, imo. Although what it also does is devalue the "virtue" word by using it in a negative context.
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Bumping the thread to keep it active. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) It's about as active as James Dahlke's plan for World Domination. A brief update: Shit token prices have collapsed even further MAPR "the flagship" went sub $20 last month, minuscule volume means an untradable spread on Catex of 0.0123/0.026. MAYA lol. <8 cents and dead as a dead thing. MYEX waiting for the exchange to burst onto the crypto scheme and disrupt the world. Waiting and waiting. Coming soon.... MAYAP The Telegram pajeets are getting themselves in a paranoid state about this Coingecko listing. I know what it is and it's a big lmao. DFS Don't even ask....(not) trading at just a few sats now with some v pissed punters, all blaming the disaster on Dahlke and his genius "split". Telegram is just a mass of stickers interspersed with the moronic admin answering or ignoring moronic questions, in between endlessly reposting worthless 'competitions' and 'airdrops'. Example: for some reason getting to 100k fake TG followers appears to be a desirable thing, so the whole of Nigeria has been mobilized to add loads and loads of contacts who comment "Who added me to this shit?" and leave. If they get to 100k (never) then one of the brain dead admin (Hi Amy) draws one winning account: Grand Prize 500 MAYA (~$35 atm).... ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) News? The latest "news" is still the non news of the Dumb Blonde press agency contract: if you go to their page (don't bother, it's very boring) they have a large "Present Clients" list. No mention of MAYA/MAPR/UKF... ...and no sign of Jimbo.
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As much as i want to give Solodovnyk credit for Infinances i think it's not one of theirs. It looks like a clone exchange of Whitebit...
There is a link between Whitebit and P2P, via Solodovnyk, in the names Alexey Kovaliov and Glib Ushakov. Solodovnyk's Twitter website link is n-chain.io, a Kyiv company called Next Chain, an Information Technology and Services company with supposedly 11-50 employees and scant information about its activities. Next Chain's CEO is Glib Ushakov who also lists himself as CFO of Whitebit. Alexey Kovaliov is listed as CTO at n-chain.io ; the first result in that search directs to a page identifying him as CTO of Whitebit.Which begs the question, why would Solodovnyk link to a Ukrainian site, which shares top management with Whitebit, unless he had some financial interest in it? I guess the next question is whether infinances is a drive by clone of Whitebit, or part of their organization? infinances.com is now flagged by Cloudflare as a suspected phishing site. There is a Kyiv based company involved in banking and IT-technology called infinance but their .ua site is 404. And that's about it, so I guess there is nothing I can find that shows that Whitebit knows of infinances existence.
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snip<deflection>snip
There are some very insightful comments here by Wolwoo, and also some among his other messages, but because he has been pushed into a corner by people who feed on drama in the forum, he almost always finds himself in a defensive position, and discussions take a very argumentative nature, discouraging many other forum members from participating I'm sure... I don't agree with you that his comments are insightful. To me they are a facile pseudo analysis, and an example of the mindset responsible for the crap state that crypto in general finds itself. Constructive investment and interest in the sector have evaporated as outsiders have found it to be just another zero sum game, full of liars and parasites. I believe when read with a cool mind and unbiased attitude, most people would find great merit in some of the responses here.
The implication being that, if one doesn't find any "great merit" there, therefore it's the readers fault for an incorrect approach. No one is contesting that the investbox ad was misleading and had ponzi like components, but in the bigger picture, Yobit's efforts are making considerable contributions to the crypto space, amidst a dark extended bearish period when many participants have already surrendered and gone home to drink tall glasses of milk ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) ... In the bigger picture, imo, the only thing Yobit contributes to considerably is the wealth of its owners. It does that at the expense of undermining any credibility that crypto may have as an agent of change, by reducing it to some sordid and irrelevant gambling platform. Sitting up all night chiseling sats out of a rigged shitcoin game doesn't make you a brave wheeler dealing pioneer, just a sad victim of base instincts, which the Yobits of this world are happy to exploit.
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I did edit4 and write my opinions. I didn't prejustice like others. I want test it and show results for community.
Rationalism is important. Basis of science orders controlled experiment and provable data. I tried to do a controlled experiment and gather data.
I respect your quality comments and interpretations about topic.
Your edits make interesting reading from a technical viewpoint. "Lynch culture" is emotive language for someone who believes Rationalism is important The critics are being rational.
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Hahaha, what a thread! ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) What is this, the Coinsbit canteen, everyone posting on it seems to work for them? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Yeah TAGZ, the only exchange in the world that lies about its volume more than the Solodovnyk Shit... ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fs3.cointelegraph.com%2Fstorage%2Fuploads%2Fview%2Fc854b0d08b86088b2891bff3036269e9.jpg&t=664&c=ITuS1Q65I1AN3A) If TAGZ, P2PB2B and Coinsbit's lies about volume were to be believed, then those three shit exchanges have a combined volume of SIX BILLION DOLLARS IN 24 HOURS!!!Do you scammers have no idea how ridiculous this is?
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p2pb2b Coinsbit xCryptCapital Whitebit
All those criminal organisations are linked, they share the same website script and even some share the same terms and conditions.
You can add Infinances.com to that list.
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Lol, I’ve been trading on WhiteBit for about 6 months now, with any questions that I had - I contacted support and they helped me on the same day. I don’t know what your problem is because you didn’t bring any evidence, so I think that you did something wrong. But if you were really deceived - do not forget about the evidence)
It's because you are a paid shill who comes here to spread lies about your scam exchanges like WhiteBit. Anybody who believes what you just said would be a fool. He also can't count. I’ve been trading on WhiteBit for about 6 months now Nice news, better than bounty campaign and some airdrops shitcoins. I’ll try to register
There is yet another scam exchange in this group, Infinances.com, which even shares the same company number as Whitebit, and threatens to doxx complainers by releasing their KYC.
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Another Estonian crypto exchange that has come to my notice is infinances.com.a group of professionals whose main goal is to develop a crypto community by providing a secure and easy-to-use trading platform. They claim More than 95% of all currency are stored on cold wallets. WAF (Web Application Firewall) - a protective screen of a Web application that detects & blocks hacker attacks. More than 95% of all cryptocurrencies are stored in cold wallets. We also use WAF (Web Application Firewall), a protective screen of a Web application that detects and blocks hacker attacks. They give their company information as inFinances Financial Company OÜ Sepise tn 1 Lasnamäe linnaosa, Tallinn Harju maakond 11415. Register code: 14637422 That is the same address and the same company registration number as Whitebit, which is shown above to be a Solodovnyk enterprise. Whitebit Financial Company OÜ Sepise tn 1 Lasnamäe linnaosa, Tallinn Harju maakond 11415. Register code: 14637422. Infinances came to my notice on Twitter, where a hitherto reliable source claims a user has been threatened by Infinances, with his personal details, obtained thru KYC, being put into "bad hands" if he does not drop his complaint, leading to him "losing a lot of money".
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https://twitter.com/PACcoinOfficial/status/1190293442712211457Really strange that your kid-CEO aka Drew Saunders aka the dictator aka @pacnode didn't retweet this beautiful stupid tweet. and other PAC related comments, may make you think like I do; that it's possible that internal changes at PAC got him back onside, and that any criticism of P2P was seen as counterproductive from then on. Idk.
Timeline: Dec 16: 172 x spam posts made promoting PAC on BCT (and deleted by mods quite quickly) Dec 16: Angry Beur twitter account closes Dec 17: Last (critical) post by Aktarus (AB?) on BCT
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I don't know, and have better things to do on Christmas Eve than look any closer at some depressing shitcoin bullshit. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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