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1801  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Strange Electrum 4.0.9 console message on: March 17, 2021, 11:10:11 AM
This is just fucked. So apparently its possible to log everyone's IP address from an SPV, and there's a real danger of this happening when the server is picked randomly.

We should host our own bitcointalk Electrum SPV with no ASCII art or other distracting stuff, maybe a single line saying "Unofficial bitcointalk ElectrumX server" on console initialization so people know it's us.
Of course. It's quite widely known that Electrum is the absolute worst from the privacy aspect, and SPVs in general, with few exceptions. If you're relying on any server for any information, it is safe to assume that there can be some form of logging, be it through the IP or by collating the addresses.

Don't think it's wise to be using "Bitcointalk" as a branding (even if it's official or not); most of the servers are run by people that has been doing so for a long time. If you truly care about privacy and security, then run your own server. You cannot guarantee if someone is not logging your connections, even if it's accidental. 
1802  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Bitcoin core won't connect over Tor. on: March 17, 2021, 04:53:36 AM
Did you get an onion address in the debug.log? Did you configure Tor correctly? Can you add debug=Tor into the config file?

Try following the steps here: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/doc/tor.md#3-automatically-listen-on-tor
1803  Economy / Web Wallets / Re: Problem sending from blockchain.com on: March 16, 2021, 12:36:33 PM
I got it now. So at the end my transactions should be fine even no hash at the moment?
It's confirmed right now. Your transactions are appearing on the blockexplorer as well.
1804  Economy / Web Wallets / Re: Problem sending from blockchain.com on: March 16, 2021, 11:52:58 AM
These transactions you showing me are from March 5, it is not what I sent today.
Yes, I know.

Those two transactions spends the same inputs and thus 'conflicts' with the transaction that you just sent. That explains why blockexplorers are not displaying your transaction; the transaction conflicts with another transaction in their mempool and their node will not accept and display it.
1805  Economy / Web Wallets / Re: Problem sending from blockchain.com on: March 16, 2021, 11:43:56 AM
Electrum did not throw error, bubble is green.

I did what you suggested and it giving error: Invalid transaction. Error: txn-mempool-conflict (code 18) , https://prnt.sc/10n6gp3

Also hash do not exist in blockchair, blockchain or any other explorer.

Unconfirmed transactions: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/95097866c8ad9c56247f93c86a1a9b813043a71874e17f23f5f173ba60dd001b
https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/af1b31ca7621b25f000dda3c36d56a8161ba2c2cb179d3632f8bd78fcd5904fd

It doesn't appear on blockexplorers as the transactions that you've created with Electrum conflicts with the two transactions above, for which neither signals opt-in RBF. The Electrum node that you were using most likely already dropped the transaction, given that the minimummempoolfee is currently bigger than 5 satoshis by default implementation. Blockexplorers might not be able to see it but it's fine as long as nodes are willing to relay it; not a big issue and nothing much that you can do at this point anyways, other than moving away from Blockchain.com.
1806  Economy / Web Wallets / Re: Problem sending from blockchain.com on: March 16, 2021, 11:23:55 AM
Both of them are not detected in any explorer.

Blockchain made some mess with my account. I think i work with bitcoin 6 or 7 years, I never seen something like that.
If Electrum didn't throw an error during the creation or the broadcasting of the transaction, I can't see how Blockchain.com could've messed up an address like this. At the bottom right corner, is the bubble green or red? Try clicking on it, uncheck "Select Server automatically" and select another server but right clicking and selecting "Use as server".

If not, then go to the transaction details and go to Export>Copy to clipboard and go to https://blockchair.com/broadcast, paste and click Broadcast transaction. Be sure to select Bitcoin of course.
1807  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Electrum Wallet. I Want my Private Key. on: March 15, 2021, 11:45:19 PM
Electrum doesn't follow BIP39 standards. Go to console and type getmasterprivate.
1808  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Strange Electrum 4.0.9 console message on: March 15, 2021, 04:14:53 PM
It's from the server that you're connected to. They can display any arbitrary message. It was probably put there by the owner for revenue from any referrals. SSD is the available disk space of the Electrum server you're connected to.
1809  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Concern about RNG on: March 15, 2021, 04:08:12 PM
I don't understand. Why is electrum better than iancoleman? What part of security does electrum offer that differs from an html page with javascript?
I concur, in normal scenarios, they are both safe. Browsers are however another security risk as you won't know how it'll behave while the seed is being generated. Not that I really dislike it, just that using Electrum can probably achieve the same thing.

I'd like to make another question regarding iancoleman:  When you run a javascript script from your browser, is it stored on your memory or hard drive? For example, electrum mnemonics can be found on the wallet file.
Iancoleman's script cannot control how your browser function; entirely possible that the browser caches parts of the webpage and accidentally reveals your seed phrase. Not that big of an issue if you choose to do it offline and wipe your drive again after using it.
1810  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Bitcoin Input with all address type on: March 15, 2021, 04:00:12 PM
that's a shame though because this could have been a very good feature for wallets, maybe more in a couple of years ago than now but still a good one.
people usually need both address types, the segwit one to decrease their fees and the legacy one to receive payments whenever the payer cannot pay to a segwit address.
having the ability to generate different addresses from the same seed in the same wallet (without needing extra work and importing individual keys) could be very useful.
Not really, nested segwit would be more than sufficient. The version bit (wrongly referred to as checksum by me, sorry) helps with normal users that aren't really that techsavvy, helping them to restore the wallet correctly years down the road. I don't think there's really any issue with separating the different address type as of now, would be confusing for some if suddenly different address types starts to spawn in the same wallet.

Anyways, it's not impossible to implement but they were fairly reluctant previously, or so when I was searching it up previously. There's an open github issue on this though: https://github.com/spesmilo/electrum/issues/6016.
1811  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Risk with old wallet transactions? on: March 15, 2021, 03:19:25 PM
Electrum doesn't require the entire blockchain to be downloaded to function. You aren't talking about old wallets and private keys has largely remained unchanged throughout.

You can indeed send the funds back to the origin address. If I were you, I would probably just transfer it by creating another wallet with a 12 word seed and send the remainder to one of the addresses within it. It'll help with your privacy immensely and also gives you the benefits of using a HD wallet. As long as both of your Electrum clients are recent (preferably 4.0.9), then it's perfectly fine.
1812  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Bitcoin Input with all address type on: March 15, 2021, 12:16:39 PM
Can I create a transaction containing all Bitcoin address? P2PKH (1) P2SH (3) Bech32 (bc1)
Spending from, yes. Sending to, yes.
If possible, why would the wallets create a separate wallet file for each address type or you can have one recovery file but all addresses are separate.
Not all. You can import addresses of different types on Electrum and Bitcoin Core as well. You can absolutely generate nested Segwit address from the same seeds but Electrum's checksum prevents this, probably to reduce the probability of newbies being confused when restoring their wallets.
The other question is, can I send money from several inputs one of those inputs is an address containing 0 Bitcoin or invalid one?
No, why would you do that? You have to reference a UTXO that is valid, OP_return inputs are not stored within the UTXO.
1813  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin/Crypto Carbon Tax? on: March 15, 2021, 11:56:13 AM
Bitcoin does NOT have any carbon content, it does NOT burn any carbon-based fuels, it does NOT emit any kind of pollution at all. Bitcoin is a user of the electricity that is provided by the electric companies. If a miner is supposed to pay carbon tax then you too should also pay it for your fridge, TV,... basically any time you use electricity!
Derived demand from mining does contribute to a larger electrical demand from those sources, for which if you're the government (and it becomes an issue), you would probably implement a tax directly on the miners to avoid the distortion within the energy market caused by it. While it isn't exactly a carbon tax, you're essentially making mining less profitable. I don't find it a huge problem, but it doesn't mean that Bitcoin will not indirectly result in pollution; increase in Bitcoin prices results in more miners and more ASICs -> E-waste and perhaps electrical usage.
1814  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Concern about RNG on: March 15, 2021, 11:42:25 AM
Recommended
128 bits of entropy generate 12 words after checksum, 160 bits generate 15 words, 192 bits generate 18 words, 224 bits generate 21 words, 256 bits generate 24 words.

100% prone to attack
96 bits will generate 9 words, 64 bits will generate 6 words, 32 buts will generate 3 words.

It is even states on iamcoleman that 'mnemonics with less than 12 words have low entropy and may be guessed by an attacker' in the process of generate less than 12 words seed phrase.
Thanks for the warning as well. Thought that it was obvious that it shouldn't be done.
1815  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Concern about RNG on: March 15, 2021, 11:25:04 AM
Iamcoleman make use of 128 bits to 256 bits of entropy to generate seed phrase using a open source codes which the 128 bits is even secure enough and safe to use. You have nothing to worry about, it is as secure as it is BIP39 standard using cryptographic secure pseudo random number generator and open source.
You can use less if you're choosing seed phrases shorter than 12 words.

Anyways, while it does indeed appear to be using the RNG correctly, provided that your browser correctly provides the entropy. I don't believe that open source codes means anything unless it is signed by someone you trust; for which the PGP is signed and available on github as well.

You make it worse, format your OS is not considered safe. You need to buy a hardware wallet, or at least buy a USB, burn an open source operating system, and then run the wallet on it while removing network part.

for RNG attack it only require single access to the system. format your OS will make that bug.
Formatting OS is safe enough, unless you're messing it up badly. Using a USB as a liveCD doesn't eliminate any BIOS rootkit or anything similar. While I personally wouldn't run Windows to do anything like generating a cold wallet, its still okay as long as it is offline.
1816  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Concern about RNG on: March 15, 2021, 10:37:53 AM
Iancoleman's site uses the same entropy source as bitaddress, which is Crypto.getrandomvalues(). Not to be confused with math.random which isn't a CSPRNG. It should provide similar entropy levels as it does gather extra entropy from the OS. There really isn't a way to ensure entropy, just ensuring that iancoleman is getting the entropy from a secure source is sufficient.
1817  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin/Crypto Carbon Tax? on: March 14, 2021, 02:05:13 PM
Mining will never end; 2140 is simply the year for which the block rewards diminishes below 1 satoshi. I highly doubt that it is feasible to try to price the environmental impacts fairly or is it easy to impose the tax on the users themselves. It is perfectly feasible to be implementing it for miners but it would probably only affect the numbers of miners and their profit margin. Whether the price would drop would be an entirely different issues that isn't exactly affected by this; difficulty and the network hashrate could be affected if this ever happens.
1818  Economy / Speculation / Re: Want to understand..... on: March 14, 2021, 01:56:28 PM
Yes but the demands could've been caused by an external factor as well; take for example Dogecoin which rocketed after Elon Musk tweeted about it and Bitcoin when Tesla bought into it as well. These would influence the demand and probably cause more people to buy/sell it which would then result in a new equilibrium formed with the supply/demand curve.
1819  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: The consensus dead end. on: March 13, 2021, 03:08:34 PM
It seems that it's just my opinion, but I don't believe that users should have the freedom to choose what is defined as Bitcoin. They have the freedom to experiment with it, to use it, to create new things on top of it, but not to change it. Satoshi chose these consensus rules and every person who refuses to accept them is free to follow a different chain.
Satoshi chose 1MB as the block size limit (before there wasn't any limits) but look, it is obviously not feasible if we need to scale up. If you only consider the original consensus rules to be the only version of Bitcoin, then you would probably not be using the Bitcoin that you have today. Satoshi did lay the groundwork but it is obvious that not all of the choices that he made has actually made any sense at all.
As for Satoshi:  It's not the fact that a "guy" decided what rules should be followed. That doesn't sound good. It's just the way the chain started. Every consensus change would be against the philosophy.
Would it have made sense to be following the original Bitcoin with no block limits, an overflow bug, no segwit, no p2sh, etc? It was obvious that Satoshi didn't mean to leave Bitcoin as it is, there is a set of rules which probably won't garner any support or would redefine Bitcoin but it doesn't mean you can't improve Bitcoin.


I don't think this is really up for discussion, I don't think Bitcoin would've survived if it didn't evolve.
1820  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: 600 word seed on: March 13, 2021, 02:30:29 PM
I generated huge entropy because 256 bits of entropy didnt seem secure to me:   this is what 256 bits look like. 83926714dbf1948da358e3bddd99818d1b9fd3fd58c55e65765ffd780a4b4970   this is it. looks very breakable
Let's represent it with the number of permutations that a 12 words seed have.

2048^12 possible seeds, a little less than that if you want to adhere to the checksum (lowers from 132bits to 128 bits). 5.44 x 10^39 possible permutations. Let's say you can bruteforce 1 million seeds a second; giving you about 1.7264453e+32 years to exhaust the key space. It's roughly the security of a Bitcoin address. 24 word seeds has even more permutations.
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