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1841  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin URL handler on: June 11, 2011, 09:32:59 PM
The hierarchical part of an URI should be, well, hierarchical. The transaction amount is not part of any hierarchy and should therefor should be placed in the query part of the URL.

Compare with the existing schemes: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/URI_scheme#Official_IANA-registered_schemes
Or compare to the standard that the community came up with back in January: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/URI_Scheme

@ Luke-Jr, There never was consensus reached on that. It is not a standard, just a page on wiki. Please do not call, whatever you like, a standard, it is not. If I am wrong here please explain why.

@AlexZ. Please calm down. Insulting fellow community members does not help anyone. I would humbly suggest you to consider removing insulting remarks and hopefully apologize to 'error' either privately or publicly to get this little accident behind us.

@Error, I apologise for somewhat uncivil behaviour of AlexZ, please consider if you we can get this behind us, and if you have any suggestions, how we could modify btc: URI scheme to make it 'compliant' (whatever this means) please do tell us. I also would happy to discuss this privately, if appropriate.

Now. Back in January the consensus (IMO) was that whoever does actual implementation is in position to select which URI scheme to chose. This seems to be a very wise approach (thanks Gavin), which has potential to stimulate software development instead of facilitating URI religion wars and endless flames.

I have one practical suggestion. Lets have more than one URI scheme.

We have a well documented bitcoin: scheme RFC on wiki, great!. Let's prepare competing btc: scheme suggestion along the lines of what myself and AlexZ are advocating, let's also have bit-x: scheme (why not?).

Than whoever advocates or likes whichever scheme is free to document it, implement it, submit pull requests in competitive manner.

Best of all, we do not have to implement only one scheme. let's have all of them available, though, in different namespaces. Let market forces, webmasters, merchants, and users select and use whichever scheme appeals to them most. This IMO is very libertarian, capitalistic and fair approach, very much in spirit of bitcoin.

Frankly, I am confident that if all bitcoin: bit-x: and btc: schemes are implemented and supported than bitc: will be preferred by most people. But I may be wrong. Let's keep open mind and let's allow all schemes to be supported equally and without undue prejudice and discrimination (please, "error").

Thank You.

P.S. hey bc: namespace is up for grabs, got a better idea for URI, document it, implement it. The more, the merrier.
1842  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Call for investors. Let's build a huge bitcoin mining DC together. on: June 11, 2011, 08:58:43 PM
No it is not at Node4, whatever node4 is. If node4 is some kind of DC or colo provider than the chances are that my recurrent prices would be 300-500% and initial prices 80% higher if I was there.

DC0 is in my garage, DC1 is another location, DC2 project is on hold with lease signed by site owner but not yet signed by me, DC3 is another site which is about to go online (any day now), lease for DC4 site is being worked on.

I generally have to go for another DC everytime I suck out all the juice (electricity) available in vicinity of the site  Cheesy.

Ordering own electricity substation so far is rather cost prohibitive and what's more important takes rather long time.

1843  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin URL handler on: June 11, 2011, 09:28:47 AM
Here is the latest iteration, we could simply emulate http URI, including "userinfo" part

btc://amount:payee@address/message , where

amount:payee@,  :payee and /message are optional

examples:

btc://19bF4Xq2bJwVKzGmbq5pxmkgYkE1KnXngp
btc://0.02@19bF4Xq2bJwVKzGmbq5pxmkgYkE1KnXngp
btc://19bF4Xq2bJwVKzGmbq5pxmkgYkE1KnXngp/OK+RFC
btc://0.00:Vladimir@19bF4Xq2bJwVKzGmbq5pxmkgYkE1KnXngp/OK+RFC
btc://50.00@19bF4Xq2bJwVKzGmbq5pxmkgYkE1KnXngp/Really+Cool+RFC
btc://50.00:Vladimir@19bF4Xq2bJwVKzGmbq5pxmkgYkE1KnXngp/Really+Cool+RFC
btc://0.0000001:Vladimir@19bF4Xq2bJwVKzGmbq5pxmkgYkE1KnXngp/Your+RFC+Sucks
btc://100:Vladimir/19bF4Xq2bJwVKzGmbq5pxmkgYkE1KnXngp/I+will+pay+you+monthly?periodic=yes&period=monthly&howmany=12

most existing URI handling code will work with this with minimal (if any) changes
1844  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin URL handler on: June 11, 2011, 08:43:27 AM
Introducing some privately owned domain into decentralised currency URI scheme, whether standard or not, does not look very appealing.

Nice try with a community infiltration attack though...
1845  Other / Meta / Re: [Forum PULL] Support for bitcoin URLs on: June 11, 2011, 08:15:55 AM
I asked mods to have a look into it. Fingers crossed.
1846  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin URL handler on: June 11, 2011, 08:02:48 AM
yea particularly this one

Luke-Jr: URI: bitcoin:1NS17iag9jJgTHD1VXjvLCEnZuQ3rJED9L?amount=x400x4
Vladimir's URI-like: bitcoin://0.67108864/1NS17iag9jJgTHD1VXjvLCEnZuQ3rJED9L/


how about comparing the real thing

give your answer to each of these:

http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=5171.msg75505#msg75505

bitcoin:///19bF4Xq2bJwVKzGmbq5pxmkgYkE1KnXngp
bitcoin://0.02/19bF4Xq2bJwVKzGmbq5pxmkgYkE1KnXngp
bitcoin:///19bF4Xq2bJwVKzGmbq5pxmkgYkE1KnXngp/OK+RFC
bitcoin:///19bF4Xq2bJwVKzGmbq5pxmkgYkE1KnXngp:Vladimir/OK+RFC
bitcoin://50.00/19bF4Xq2bJwVKzGmbq5pxmkgYkE1KnXngp/Really+Cool+RFC
bitcoin://50.00/19bF4Xq2bJwVKzGmbq5pxmkgYkE1KnXngp:Vladimir/Really+Cool+RFC
bitcoin://50.00/19bF4Xq2bJwVKzGmbq5pxmkgYkE1KnXngp/Vladimir:Really+Cool+RFC
bitcoin://0.0000001/19bF4Xq2bJwVKzGmbq5pxmkgYkE1KnXngp:Vladimir/Your+RFC+Sucks
bitcoin://100/19bF4Xq2bJwVKzGmbq5pxmkgYkE1KnXngp:Vladimir/I+will+pay+you+monthly?periodic=yes&period=monthly&howmany=12


Also I would like to note that there is no standard bitcoin URI. If you pushed it to the wiki it does not make it standard and you, Luke-Jr, is not a standard maker nor a sole authority on the matter!


1847  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin URL handler on: June 11, 2011, 07:20:00 AM
Bravo AlexZ,

  I wish we could get this into official client somehow. Let's get both URI schemes working concurrently. Anyone want to take bets on which URI scheme will be adopted by website operators if both are supported by official client?

Just compare:

1. bitcoin:1NS17iag9jJgTHD1VXjvLCEnZuQ3rJED9L?amount=x4X7

and

2. bitcoin:/400/16rpY3LAf7kQFHzmMtB71eXTTTDLG5AWy3/

I'd say option 2 is a clear winner

P.S. Do not underestimate importance of decent URI handling. Edonkey's popularity and quick adoption to significant degree was due to its great edk2 URI scheme. Ask Jed if you do not believe me. I bet if we have this kind of URI handling both in windows and linux official client it will make bitcoin adoption to go much smoother.

1848  Bitcoin / Press / Re: Bitcoin press hits, notable sources on: June 11, 2011, 07:00:58 AM

Aha! Satoshi is outed!  Wink
1849  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin to rally to $50+ on: June 10, 2011, 07:23:55 PM
The best thing one who hold some bitcoin can do is to save them somewhere safe and than come back and check the exchange rate in a year or two.

Meanwhile maybe get some bitcoin biz started up.
1850  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Choopa.com has Rigs available now!!! on: June 10, 2011, 05:20:03 PM
Considering that they put in 0 bitcoins, definitely yes.  Cool However I do not want to discuss this here. It's not nice hijacking the thread. I just wanted to say ask you to not compare apples and oranges that's all.

1851  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Choopa.com has Rigs available now!!! on: June 10, 2011, 05:05:48 PM
It would be unfair to compare my service with this. They offer you unmanaged service and no zero-variance, while my contracts are completely hand off. With my service all what required is to pay and watch how bitcoins dropping into your wallet, with  their service I am sure it is a bit more complicated.

I feel like upping the price 30% or so...  Grin




1852  Economy / Economics / Re: What will happen if the bitcoin economy goes to 500.000.000? on: June 10, 2011, 04:47:45 PM
give it a month or two
1853  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Both AMD and NVIDIA together? on: June 10, 2011, 11:21:44 AM
Hello all,

Glad to be a new part of the bitcoin world.

My current system is 1x 5770 and 1x 5830, non Crossfire. I also have a my NVIDIA card that was replaced by the AMD's.

My question is, is there any way for me to plug in my NVIDIA card into my third PCI-e slot and use it to mine as well?

I have already tried and when I installed the NVIDIA drivers it broke OpenCL and guiminer could no longer see my AMD cards.

I'm wondering if anyone else has gotten this to work...

Also, damn this OpenCL bug pegging cores.  I hope everyone affected has notified AMD of their folly!


I have an easier solution for you. Sell you NVIDIA card on ebay and buy another ATI card instead. This would make your life much much easier if you are a bitcoin miner.

1854  Economy / Economics / Re: hoarding is not so easy on: June 10, 2011, 09:19:43 AM
classic.... fear and greed in action
1855  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Bitcoin Lawyer Introduction Thread on: June 09, 2011, 11:13:58 PM
Welcome, Bitcoin Lawyer!

Let's give it a try...

in comments to this article  http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2011/06/08/bitcoin_under_attack/ someone said:

Quote
My reading of the law is that bitcoins are already illegal, and it is primarily the miners that are breaking the law by not registering as electronic money issuers, not keeping appropriate reserves to cover redemptions of their magic numbers, not employing "fit and proper persons", not having complaints procedures and so on.

your opinion?

1856  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Gold Priced in BTC on: June 09, 2011, 10:54:46 PM
yep, I want 5870 an than 6990 card parity too.
1857  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Gold Priced in BTC on: June 09, 2011, 10:48:33 PM
diversification, my friend, balanced portfolio... those kind of things will be important once parity is reached.
1858  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Gold Priced in BTC on: June 09, 2011, 10:45:15 PM
wait for parity, than exchange some bitcoins for gold
1859  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: BTCguild is beating Deepbit last 3 days! on: June 09, 2011, 07:35:33 PM
Doesn't a larger pool mean larger returns?

No it does not, countenoobintuitively apparently  Grin
1860  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Public Relations on: June 09, 2011, 04:30:18 PM
From where I sit, I see lots of quite smart and intelligent people coming in... lots of interest and excitement.
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