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1861  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The best way to quit gambling for good on: February 01, 2017, 03:43:55 PM
The passion of gambling (betting, gambling, casino) and the corresponding online ones is very difficult to be treated because it is a very serious form of addiction like drugs. Initially the addicted need to understand it by himself with the help of his family and then altogether to seek a professional help. The real interest of the closed family and relatives environment and the engaging in other activities like as sport, reading, social activities, etc. maybe is the most obvious way to help him to overcome his passion.
yeah a strong encouragement from someone who close to you like your family and a girlfriend would really boosting your motivation to leave gambling. you need full support from them and believe me it would accelerate your way to quit gambling besides have to looking for your busy time , don't let you have a lot of time to spent, make yourself busy doing your regular job in your workplace ore something like that.
1862  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Operating a BTC gambling site - Worth it? on: February 01, 2017, 03:15:48 PM
always worth to try , nothing business have a free-risk. so far i didn't yet see there is bitcoin gambling site closed due to bankruptcy or something similar. most of them in profit especially a -EV games , no wonder there is very few games based on player vs player , would you take this challenge? to open a PvP game like PvP blackjack? goodluck btw.
1863  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Online Gambling vs Real Gambling on: January 31, 2017, 11:38:22 AM
It used to be before the existence of online gambling, I did real gambling, that is by collecting a lot of friends and then playing cards or dominoes cards in the other. When losing a lot of quarrels that happened so it makes me fight with lots of friends, after the online gambling then everything becomes more secure, and better. now, I only play at online gambling and leave the real gambling.
In some areas real casinos are not present in, or most of the people do not have easy access to casino therefore online gambling is the best choice for those people, while playing online gambling they do not need to visit a real casino, there is no time frame for plying gambling online therefore I will like to say that it is the best option for playing gambling.
that can also be a good reason. but i think the facilities of internet are also not present everywhere. so still in backward areas people are still compromising on physical casinos. may be in future when they have better access to internet will give them chance to play gambling online.
simple if then in your place gambling are prohibited and illegal just go for online casino since hard to fully block access to online casino nothing can stop someone to run online casino and for a player to play there . it's a heaven for those who really want to gamble but restricted, the only thing problem yeah when you have no internet access, it's a must.
1864  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Losses on: January 31, 2017, 10:55:14 AM
I am a +EV poker player, so I do not care much about losses, because I know days will come when I will win again. Smiley
This is what we need if we are playing or gambling, setting our mind that we gonna win not of what we are going to loss Cheesy
having fun also is what we gain in this matter, play and have fun target the winning hand and not to loss, fighting spirit as what other says.
if you looking for money in gambling then i guess you should really care on every single penny you have lost and manage it properly to make sure you always in green zone. but when you have an intention gamble for entertainment purpose only nothing else then it's okay to didn't care on no matter how much you lost everytime.
1865  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Anyone ever stop gambling? but then gamble again? on: January 31, 2017, 10:36:37 AM
It's just like people who are addicted to drugs or some kind of thing that people are into and is getting negativity from it. When they go to rehab or groups or something, they learn how to stop, what it causes to people, but if they get a taste of it again, they will go back. It's same for gambling if people have already lost in gambling or what not, they would still come back in order to regain themselves from their losses, making them more prone to losses.
yeah that's always be a big challenge for anyone who want to quit from gambling just like when someone get addicted to drugs. the answer always on yourself, do you really want to leave gambling forever? then do whatever necessary, go to a professional gambling addiction therapist for example as i believe gambling addiction more to psychological problem.
1866  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Giving up gambling is not easy on: January 31, 2017, 07:28:21 AM
well, if there's a good amount of money, i'm sure it isnt easy. that work for everything in life.
there's no easy money mah friend.

you can always bet just as a hobby, forget about strategies and play with your luck and small amounts of course.
BUT, if you want to be profitable, it isnt easy. you need to work hard.

yeah that's true , nothing easy earned. everything have a cost equally. hard work = big earning , lazy = get nothing. but people make gambling as easy way to make money which it's truly a wrong thought. in the end they get addicted and hard to quit from this horrible hobby. life are never easy , don't make it worse, create a strong desire to quit and do it!
1867  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is the best source of bitcoin nowadays? on: January 31, 2017, 07:10:12 AM
The best are trading and mining, big miners do not risk except the invested money, after they get the investment money back, they have pure profit. Working online and making bitcoin in bitcoin jobs are good soruce too, you need to have good coding skills and experience.
Of course!Be honest, trading one of the most profitable income now a days.Altcoin trading has been looking for a good place to get bitcoin.Actually there so many income source our around,just need to point out and pick up the best one which most favourable for us.Bitcoin industry already-leading so as a future currency bitcoin will be dominated the next future.But trading means skills and experience.
trading are the only legit way to grow your bitcoin up besides mining that recently so hard to make it profitable due the difficulty keep increasing . also if someday you have capital enough you may could build a bitcoin business right? trading for now are the most favorited source to make bitcoin, gambling and any other money gaming system are too risky.
1868  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitsler, why do this? on: January 31, 2017, 06:58:50 AM
        So I deposited 0.003 on my account jamyr12, was able to make it to 0.01. Tried to withdraw, did not let me do so. I am in need of the money that's why I tried gambling that little amount and was very happy that I made it reach 0.01. Malicious you say that I do on my account, what type? I have voted for you guys and even defend you whenever I see such bashers here on other sites that I play at because I believed you guys are the best. I have lost more than this on your site, but I still go back.

        Now this is what I get in return, thank you very much.!
i don't get it , so while you can't make withdrawal then you playing some and lost it all? correct me if i'm wrong , it's seems there is nothing wrong with bitsler but yourself who blame them for the reason didn't let you to withdraw when you are up , isn't it?


If you're just trying to up your post-count Sir then I advise you to do better next time.
I said, I made a depo, have 5 confirmations already made 0.003-0.01, so what would be the reason why I am not authorize to do anything to my money?

Yes, after they have not let me withdraw it, I YOLO'd. And busted it all, frustration got the better of me so I am wrong with that, but who wont get frustrated if that happens? I play online instead of going to e-games for the convenience and it is not convenient for a player to have that issue.



ouch am i rude at you? don't get me wrong , if you didn't like my comment then you should make the thread self moderated so you could delete anyone post as you wish. anyway it's pretty clear that you didn't gamble responsibly , end of words calm down yourself and learn from this accident. i have experienced something like this too long time ago Wink .
1869  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How do you know when to stop? on: January 31, 2017, 06:40:23 AM
when gamble I always prepare the profit target, I stop gambling when I lost and my money runs out or I already benefit in targeting
I think that's all we should do, we must learn how to stop when we are losing so we will not be able to lose more. I like to gamble when I have a good feeling that I am lucky, but usually due to some kind of greediness inside of me, I push my luck and end up losing everything. This is something I need to learn which is to control, and it should be on a consistent manner.
this soundslike a bullshit lol , i know everyone would just losing their minds once started to gamble , especially when you lost it , not much could handle it properly. to quit immediately when you have suffered a quite huge lost that almost make you can't afford to lost. mostly wouldn't know how to stop and handle that kind lost position.
1870  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitsler, why do this? on: January 31, 2017, 06:29:14 AM
        So I deposited 0.003 on my account jamyr12, was able to make it to 0.01. Tried to withdraw, did not let me do so. I am in need of the money that's why I tried gambling that little amount and was very happy that I made it reach 0.01. Malicious you say that I do on my account, what type? I have voted for you guys and even defend you whenever I see such bashers here on other sites that I play at because I believed you guys are the best. I have lost more than this on your site, but I still go back.

        Now this is what I get in return, thank you very much.!
i don't get it , so while you can't make withdrawal then you playing some and lost it all? correct me if i'm wrong , it's seems there is nothing wrong with bitsler but yourself who blame them for the reason didn't let you to withdraw when you are up , isn't it?
1871  Economy / Economics / Re: The future of the paper money on: January 27, 2017, 09:02:43 AM
I am very sure, paper money survive no more than 50 years, this is because the Earth has been very badly damaged, thus the use of papers are forbidden, including to make money.
Money is no longer just paper, if you touch the new bills from most countries you will realize they feel a lot more like plastic, besides if at some point the earth was in that bad of a shape you could bet priority will be given to print money over anything else.
there always pros and cons , if paper money damage our earth then digital money would have lack of security. anyways if i have to choose which one between both of course i would like to choose we have to move to digital money where everything run more flexible. the security problem could be solved as time goes by right?
1872  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Did gambling get you into Bitcoin or did Bitcoin get you into gambling? on: January 27, 2017, 08:45:21 AM
Going back on previous years I do know gambling but only on offline world/physical world and I don't have any interest on any online gambling since I do know that the terms of deposits would really require you cards and showing off your identity to the site that's why I don't bother at all but when I know bitcoin and the sites which do accepts it that's the time I engage with gambling but still I don't spend too much money and time with it just playing for enjoyment though.
online gambling was popular since 2003 here , and i get into online gambling around 3-4 years after that. it's indeed you need bank account and several personal info to register there , that time it wasn't big problem as long as we are play on a well known and trusted online casino. so for me i know online casino far from where bitcoin invented and used for online gambling currency.
Yeah,i do know that since I have friends usually play gambling online with the use of their cards and bank accounts and on that time I don't have my bank account that's why it would be hard for me to do such activities or hobbies and I would rather spent my time on my job but now I can do it already with only on small amounts because of bitcoin.Fast and anonymous transactions.
but i also heard a lot of story that people know gambling because of bitcoin , especially a young bitcoin enthusiast that addicted to gadget and spend most of the times surfing on the internet try their luck with a couple bucks buy small amount of bitcoin to gamble. who else do this? gambling shouldn't done by underage .
1873  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Could bitcoin prevent crime? on: January 27, 2017, 08:33:34 AM
Could bitcoin prevent crime?

I believe Bitcoin transactions via online wallets could prevent crime. People are going to use Bitcoin for legal and illegal transactions, however criminal transactions are susceptible to crime as cash is used for the transaction...which encourages theft. If bitcoin were used for these shady transactions, perhaps with escrow, there would be no opportunity to steal currency - couldn't this prevent crime? (Aside from the original criminal transaction of course!)

No it can't prevent any crime at all, That's the reason why other country before they banned bitcoin for thinking that might gonna be use for crime or money laundering. That's all I know about it.
actually it could , prevent a chargebacks and disputes scam. but of course in other hand creates another problem which i think it's normal , nothing perfect made. it's just depend on how we can handle it all . as long as there a lot of benefit that people can receieve much more than the negative side.
1874  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: January 27, 2017, 08:21:21 AM
i am really far away to be rich from gambling because i am not playing gambling in every day and my winning time is not too much depend other gamblers beside that the amount is not big too. but i want to get rich by doing other work like trading or investing in bitcoin to get me rich in future so i can make much money.
Gambling can't really make someone rich if you already rich then you can make your money grow on that gambling website for me gambling is to those rich only where they playing lots of money and they can really afford to lose lots. Don't just dream for it work hard for it and you wll reach what you aim in life.
really a bad idea when someone talking about how to grow their wealth through gambling. you wealth wouldn't grow there , just decreased or even disappear instead. it was a dangerous way to make money , you may only think about how good gambling reward without thinking about the bad thing that you could receive like you could become poor guy in a single roll.
1875  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is it possible to buy really large BTC amounts? on: January 26, 2017, 08:53:13 PM
it is very possible. but you should find a seller that is really reliable. so bitcoin you have a safe and enter the address of your bitcoin wallet.
be careful in buying bitcoin in very much.
i think you can buy bitcoin in open market price any time. but if you want to buy it in a little low price the you can do that by putting your offer, and if a seller agree with your price then you get that amount. but it is clear that you can buy any amount of bitcoin.
i would prefer to buy it gradually instead to buy it all at once , too much risk have to take if you do it when you have a plan to buy in big scale. but however it's all always up to you , if you are the true risk taker then go for it and watch it, don't be greedy and don't easy to get panic. the market would react a little bit hard .
1876  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Play with your profit or not? on: January 26, 2017, 08:44:29 PM
I prefer play with profit but if i win a lot of profit like 50% of my invested bankroll then i will stop playing for that day and play another day because i've always experienced in the past that every time i play longer i always bust everything.
Longer the time you spend in a gambling site the more chances are there for you to bust and it is simply called house edge Cheesy I would book my profits and keep the initial capital away from the gambling site as you never know when you are going to be busted.
it's same thing i guess , when you decide to play with your profit or not. as sooner or later you would make a comeback and gambling again with that profit fund. unless if you quit forever from gambling after the last winning , it would has different story. so there is no difference for me.

For me too. Tried this before to withdraw the winnings and then left the initial then after awhile lose what is left so I decided to deposit again. So I think it will only be different ifn terms of what I withdraw when I won. And what will I deposit again when I play again after losing.
yeah that's why a lot of casino have a longlife rather than the players. when a casino have guaranteed to have profit we are guaranteed to lost in the end of each session no matter you have given a win first. and there is an addiction waiting for you, whenever you can't stop playing and make deposit.

This also proves that why a lot of btc casino dont mind giving you a bonus whenever you deposit btc. This is because of the design of the game where the odds are always against you. And by forcing you to play for a long period of time, the outcome will tend towards the probability and that is why the casino is confident in getting back the btc inclusive of your deposit.
yeah they have calculated everything include how much rollover required that gives them more percentage like 55/45 or so , the only thing that can make them in loss are when there is a super lucky guy hit the winning streaks or a jackpot which it's rare happened. so there is no difference whether you would gamble back with your profit or not , the house are the real winner.
1877  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: January 26, 2017, 08:20:42 PM
things make people get addicted first of all are about how enjoy they play it , then when involve money the game are become more excited , then you start lost your mind due this game+money both simply loved by anyone in this world right? so there is no addiction when you play a game only without staking money , that's the key factor for me.

You cant really call it gambling if there is no money wagered in the game. People love money and that is why people love to gamble as well , it cause addiction. If there is no money in the game then it is not really gambling, it is the same as just playing game and it dont really cause addiction at all
go ahead keep twisting my words  Roll Eyes , when you love to do it i guess you are in addiction lol. however your brain would always respond aggressively whenever you feel in high tense like see a dealer hold an ace and you just have two of small cards in blacjack but in the end you got a beautiful win by making it 21 while the dealer get busted , isn't it addictive?
1878  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: January 26, 2017, 08:00:48 PM
when there is wager involved, we are changing on the way we are treating a thing. And since we are betting with bitcoin which is a real currency that is why we treat it carefully.
Honestly I am into gambling because gambling gives me the opportunity to get bitcoins. I tried many gambling but only with sports betting I am also able to earn some bitcoins. Only because of sports betting  I believe I started gambling in smart way.

If I am not getting paid in bitcoins, surely I would not have tried to gamble smartly.
Not all the times gambling gives you an opportunity to get bitcoin are you not loosing? And you still keep earning this is nice that you manage to win that straight because i can't in every 4 win i encounter 1 lost in sports betting even thought im always betting on the side that i know they win the game.
how about to manage your bankroll? cause it's indeed there would always a lost no matter how much you have won. but with bankroll management everything are in control , your session profit , your all time profit everything monitored so you would have a limit and won't get lost too much .

its a good way to have a limit on gambling because it makes us to control our money and if something bad happen, we can find the solution and we can reduce the losses. beside that, we can see how good our skill in every games we've played.
no i mean not to see how good your skills or whatever, you seems misunderstood. or my words are actually misleading? i don't think so. you just need to learn how to run this bankroll management properly and then you are good to go to make yourself gambling in smart way , there is no way for you to keep getting profit gradually, at least try to not always lost by keeping it on the limit line.
1879  Other / Off-topic / Re: Who controls the Bitcoins? on: January 26, 2017, 07:36:23 PM
I agree with you, we knows that no one can controling bitcoin
the fluctuation of btc on the market is pure from the bitcoin community

Right, and until whenever I think bitcoin will never be controlled by anyone. However, some people consider bitcoin is controlled by people who have large capital, and I think it's a little true since in several exchanger price is controlled by a person. Whether it's from the exchanger or from users who have bitcoin with large numbers in that exchanger as he can influence the price movement bitcoin in "exchangers" not globally. Thank you
the bitcoin concept itself are decentralized , noone would know about this as the circulation spread out. but nowadays a lot of people think that chinese are the one who could manipulate the market they call it like 51% attack , some people believe more than half of bitcoin total available has been held by a chinese miner groups idk the truth about that.
1880  Economy / Economics / Re: Which one is good, trading or investing? on: January 26, 2017, 07:15:22 PM
I do both, I think both are good for making money, this time I worked with a salary per month of about $ 1.200. of the salary was 50℅ for the cost of life and the rest I use for investment, trade, and gambling. investment that I choose is gold, stocks, and altcoin. investment gold and d for long term, while altcoin is an investment medium that is 1 year to 5 years.
that's right i prefer to do both at once , just to anticipate when you can't deal with how bitcoin priice move up and down so quick, see your money losing its value in long term investment then do scalping trade at least could make you feel not insecure anymore. don't know which one are better as so far i do both .
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