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1861  Local / Ελληνικά (Greek) / Re: Εισερχόμενο Έμβασμα Sepa on: March 17, 2018, 10:49:30 PM
από τη στιγμή που υπάρχει προσωπικό ΙΒΑΝ τελείωσε το θέμα είσαι διαφανής για την εφορία.

Δεν έχει να κάνει το προσωπικό IBAN. Απλά δεν πρόκειται για ελληνική τράπεζα.
Η εφορία δεν έχει αυτόματα πρόσβαση σε όλες τις τράπεζες του εξωτερικού.
Πρέπει δηλαδή αυτοί να διενεργήσουν κάποιον έλεγχο.

ε τότε να δείτε που θα ζητήσουν και αφμ και θα είναι πολύ χειρότερο να έχεις κάνει όλες αυτές τις συναλλαγές και μετά να σου λένε ξέρετε τα στείλαμε στη ΔΟΥ!
ΟΚ, όταν ζητήσουν, τότε βλέπουμε...

Σκέψου κάποιοι έχουν όριο 30K στην Revolut, ενώ οι νεότεροι στα 15Κ. Ε μετά μπορεί να το ρίξουν στα 7-8K και να ζητάνε και ΑΦΜ. Για τους παλιούς δεν βλέπω να αλλάζει κάτι.
1862  Local / Ελληνικά (Greek) / Re: Εισερχόμενο Έμβασμα Sepa on: March 17, 2018, 10:47:53 PM
από τη στιγμή που υπάρχει προσωπικό ΙΒΑΝ τελείωσε το θέμα είσαι διαφανής για την εφορία.
Ξαναρωτάω:

Χωρίς ΑΦΜ πως θα γίνει αυτόματη αντιστοίχιση;

Το ονοματεπώνυμο δεν αρκεί...
1863  Local / Ελληνικά (Greek) / Re: Είναι ευκαιρία να αγοράσεις bitcoin όταν πέφτει; on: March 17, 2018, 10:46:52 PM
δε νομίζω ότι υπάρχουν τέτοιοι κανόνες.

την κάθε χρονική στιγμή υπάρχουν γεγονότα που είτε ρίχνουν είτε ανεβάζουν την τιμή χωρίς να μπορούν να προβλεφθούν.
απλά τον Δεκέμβριο-Ιανουάριο όλοι πέσαν επάνω με στόχο το γρήγορο κέρδος και όχι την πίστη στο ψηφιακό νόμισμα και τώρα έχουν πανικοβληθεί.
Δεν είπα κανόνες, αλλά pattern.

Εδώ κάποιοι αναλύουν γραφήματα και βρίσκουν patterns με fibonacci κλπ.
1864  Local / Ελληνικά (Greek) / Re: Είναι ευκαιρία να αγοράσεις bitcoin όταν πέφτει; on: March 17, 2018, 07:00:30 PM
Έχει παρατηρήσει κανείς ότι υπάρχει ένας κύκλος 4 ετών στην αγορά;

2009 (γέννηση BTC) -> 2013 (πρώτο milestone στα $1000) -> 2017 (δεύτερο milestone στα $20000)

Βάσει των παραπάνω, εικάζω ότι η επόμενη μεγάλη άνοδος θα γίνει το 2021 (ίσως στα $100000)...

Δεν νομίζω να έχουμε κάτι τρομερό φέτος ή του χρόνου, αλλά μακάρι να κάνω λάθος.
1865  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Claymore's CryptoNote AMD GPU Miner v11.2 on: March 15, 2018, 03:43:44 PM
I use Claymore v9.7 on Radeon 5770 with options "-nofee 1, -a 3" and the hashrate is the same (no penalty/optimizations disabled).

I did this, because the devfee XMR pools this old miner uses are unstable and tend to lose connection pretty often, so mining stops altogether.

The developer is kinda stupid for not supporting VLIW GPUs anymore and not caring about getting dev fees from them...
1866  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Claymore's CryptoNote AMD GPU Miner v11.2 on: March 11, 2018, 10:35:27 PM
Also, many people out there are still using 9.7 version miner 'cause it works with older gpus, I'm sure I'm not alone when saying this, but please could you also update that version of the miner as well? It would be very much appreciated if the old HD 5970s and 6990s could keep on hashing XMR even after the PoW change. All the best to you.
Agreed!

Claymore v9.7 is the only version that still works with VLIW GPUs like Radeon 5770. xmr-stak/xmrig-amd don't work with them...
1867  Local / Ελληνικά (Greek) / Re: [εφορια] συμπληρωση Ε1 με εμβασματα απο btc on: February 28, 2018, 12:49:22 PM
Ενα μικρο χρησιμο update : Το Γερμανικο υπουργειο οικονομικων αναγνωριζει την αποφαση του Ευρωπαικου Δικαστηριου οτι τα cryptos αντιμετωπιζονται σαν χρημα στις περιπτωσεις φορολογισης.
Το λινκ ειναι στα Γερμανικα

http://www.bundesfinanzministerium.de/Content/DE/Downloads/BMF_Schreiben/Steuerarten/Umsatzsteuer/Umsatzsteuer-Anwendungserlass/2018-02-27-umsatzsteuerliche-behandlung-von-bitcoin-und-anderen-sog-virtuellen-waehrungen.pdf;jsessionid=B342C0E78C4AB63DC77B59F381970961?__blob=publicationFile&v=1
Δεν ξέρω καλά Γερμανικά για το άνωθεν, αλλά εδώ λέει ότι δεν υπόκειται σε φορολόγηση:

https://curia.europa.eu/jcms/upload/docs/application/pdf/2015-10/cp150128en.pdf
1868  Local / Ελληνικά (Greek) / Re: Επαλήθευση bitstamp on: February 27, 2018, 10:26:58 PM
ουσιαστικά έχουν παγώσει τις νέες (verified) εγγραφές!
Καλά κρασιά... κλείνω 2 μήνες σε λίγες μέρες!
1869  Local / Mining Discussion (Ελληνικά) / Re: Εναλλακτικοι παροχοι ρευματος. on: February 23, 2018, 01:36:41 PM
Σχετικά με το νυχτερινό ρεύμα:

https://www.dei.gr/Documents2/TIMOLOGIA/1-1-2017%20%CE%BC%CE%B5%20%CE%BD%CE%B5%CE%BF%20%CE%95%CE%A4%CE%9C%CE%95%CE%91%CE%A1/Oikiako%20Timologio%20Xronocreosi%20G1N%20A4-1-1-17.pdf
https://www.dei.gr/Documents2/TIMOLOGIA/01-01-2018-FINAL/XT-1-1-18-FINAL/Oikiako%20Timologio%20Xronocreosi%20G1N%20A4-1-1-18-%CE%95%CE%A4%CE%9C%CE%95%CE%91%CE%A1.pdf

Προσέξτε λαμογιά που έκαναν με την χρέωση των ΥΚΩ μόλις ξεπεράσεις τις 1600-2000 kWh/4μηνο.
1870  Local / Ελληνικά (Greek) / Re: Mining και φορολογια on: February 20, 2018, 11:30:01 PM
Πιο πιθανό είναι να βρεις BTC block με CPU hashing, παρά Έλληνα λογιστή που να γνωρίζει από cryptos! Grin
1871  Local / Ελληνικά (Greek) / Re: Επαλήθευση bitstamp on: February 20, 2018, 11:25:00 PM
Εμένα τίποτα ακόμα (50+ μέρες)... στο coinbase έγινε σε 5 λεπτά κυριολεκτικά. Πως εξηγείται αυτό;
1872  Local / Ελληνικά (Greek) / Re: Εισερχόμενο Έμβασμα Sepa on: February 20, 2018, 10:09:48 PM
Παιδιά με την Revolut ξέρετε τι παίζει; Είναι ασφαλής από άποψη εφορίας;

Γίνεται εγγραφή με ελληνική ταυτότητα, δεν ζητάει ΑΦΜ και (πλέον) δίνει και IBAN.

Με ποιόν τρόπο ανταλλάσσουν στοιχεία με την ελληνική εφορία; Αφού χωρίς ΑΦΜ δεν μπορεί να γίνει αυτόματη αντιστοίχιση (όπως γίνεται π.χ. με τις ελληνικές τράπεζες για την κάρτα/αφορολόγητο).

Επίσης, δίνει ετήσιο όριο 15-30k... μέχρι τόσα μπορείς να βάλεις, για παραπάνω ζητάνε δικαιολογητικά.

Καλησπέρα
Αυτον τον μηνα εχω κανει 2 μεταφορές μεσω sepa απο kraken και Coinbase σε Πειραιώς και της 2 φορές χρεώθηκα απο 4 ευρώ.
Πριν κανα μηνα το Kraken ειχε free τι φαση?? Ξερει κανεις με Εθνικη τι παίζει?
Ευχαριστω  Smiley
Πρόσεχε μην ξεπεράσεις τα 1999 ευρώ εισερχόμενα θα πάρεις πρόστιμο. Στα 2000 ευρώ έχουν θέσει το φίλτρο.
Έχεις κάποια πηγή για αυτό;
1873  Local / Αγορά / Re: ΑΓΟΡΑΖΩ BTC στην ΑΘΗΝΑ on: February 20, 2018, 06:38:14 PM
Επειδή δεν βλέπω να το ανέφερε κανείς, πιστεύετε ότι μια κατάθεση €5000 (δεν είναι και λίγα) δεν θα χτυπήσει καμπανάκι στην εφορία (για τεκμαρτό/αφορολόγητο όριο);

Λίγη κοινή λογική ρε παιδιά...
1874  Local / Αγορά / Re: Συμβουλή για κάτοχο free ρεύματος on: February 20, 2018, 05:59:40 PM
Και μετά μας φταίνε τα μνημόνια...
1875  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Claymore's CryptoNote AMD GPU Miner v11.2 on: February 20, 2018, 02:27:44 AM
I have a problem with some devfee pools... the miner says it cannot connect to them, because they're not responding or something. I don't know if the pools are old or if it's a bug that has been fixed in later versions.

Is it possible to change the devfee pools in the config file to more current ones?

I use Claymore v9.7, since my GPU is a bit old (Radeon 5770/VLIW5 pre-GCN arch) and I guess this is an old and unsupported version... any chance to support VLIW GPUs (5xxx/6xxx) again?
1876  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [NO-ICO] [0% PREMINE] CREPCOIN: Friendly web environment crypto! on: February 19, 2018, 05:51:58 PM
Hello,

May I ask how much is the fee of this pool?

Here it says 0%: http://www.crepcoin.org/pools.php

And here it says 1%: https://crep.miner.rocks/

What gives? Huh
1877  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: SGMiner on XBOX One on: February 18, 2018, 12:51:26 PM
Update:

https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7vze1k/spoke_with_a_cryptocurrency_specialist_todayhe/dudpukd/
1878  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: SGMiner on XBOX One on: February 16, 2018, 10:25:07 PM
Hey all, I know there's a TurtleCoin Xbox One miner in the works, but in the meantime, I've already been working on my own Monero CPU miner for the Xbox One. In it's current state, it's basically a UWP app written in HTML and JS, using CoinHive for mining. Originally I tried mining with CoinHive in the Xbox One Edge browser, but that proved to be wholly inefficient. I'm hoping that as a UWP app, it should run more natively than through the browser, unless I've totally misunderstood how JS in UWP works. But anyways, it's still CPU only and probably won't ever be as efficient as a pure native miner. That being said, if anyone wants to use it or try it out on their Xbox One's, let me know. It still needs a bit more work and I haven't fully tested it yet for the Xbox at the time of writing, but hopefully I'll be able to get an open source Xbox Miner out there for people to use until better miners are available.

When my Xbox Mining software is closer to being ready for distribution, I'll start a new thread for it. But for now, just gonna leave info about it here.

You don't allow PMs so I'll just ask my questions here. What hardware access do you have when developing on the X1? Do you have 100% GPU/CPU access or is it still limited? I am very much interested in devving on ths.

Ah I just fixed it. It seems by default people with the Newbie rank can't message people of higher ranks. You should be able to PM me now if you want. Anyways, to answer your question, with the recent October SDK update for Windows 10 and the Xbox One, regardless of whether you are developing a UWP or Game Engine app, you now have access to a full 6 cores of the Xbox One, 5 GB of RAM (supposedly more for the Xbox One X), and 100% access to the GPU. Although the app I'm working on is UWP, it's still using JavaScript which might not match the efficiency of a pure native UWP app and since I have yet to test my app on my Xbox One yet, I can't say how well it will perform, especially because it's CPU only for the moment. But theoretically the Xbox One CPU when using a full optimized native CPU miner can probably get around 100+ hashes a second. And theoretically, the GPU on the Xbox One X can probably hit around 900 h/s. So combined, the Xbox One X might possibly be able to mine at over 1 Kh/s.

As I mentioned in a previous post, my JS method of mining is inefficient and the best ways would be to either write a native DirectX UWP app to do GPU mining or use a game engine like Unity or Unreal Engine and write a mining app using compute shaders for the GPU mining. But I have no experience with DirectX or writing shaders so for now the JS UWP app is the best I can do. I'll let everyone here know what kind of hashrates my app can pull off when I test it. Feel free to ask me more questions if you want! I very much enjoy discussing this as well as the prospects of mining on an Xbox One. And of course for Xbox fans, if Xbox mining can be very lucrative, miners will snatch it all up since graphics cards are so expensive now, and very quickly, the Xbox One will outsell the PS4 haha.
Good luck on your endeavor! Hopefully this will attract more people on Xbox One and who knows, we may find someone with DX12 shader knowledge to write a miner.... 1-2% mining fee x millions of consoles = huge profit. Wink

ps: Does the JS miner support multi-threading?
1879  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: SGMiner on XBOX One on: February 15, 2018, 10:58:19 PM
That was my very same impression... I assumed the Xbox one x would provide a better hash rate too.  I’m not qualified to provide any explanation I was just repeating what @therealcrypt posted in the discord channel earlier this month.

I’m not the dev, just a random end user eagerly awaiting the ability to mine on Xbox.  You could try asking in the discord channel, there is #dev-xbone but read only to plebs like me.  But #general has all the info I posted above if you use the discord search.

Sorry I didn’t have a better answer for you...

I joined the server and asked around, I haven't spoken to therealcrypt yet but there seems to be some confusion amongst the others as well. I think it was just a misinterpretation. Both the Xbox One and Xbox One X use GPU's similar to PC counterparts, so the performance difference between the two consoles should be pretty similar to that of the difference between the PC versions.

That being said, I might have 1 theory about why the original Xbox One might actually perform as well as the Xbox One X for mining. Since cryptonote currencies are more memory reliant than other cryptocurrencies, the original Xbox One had 32 MB of high speed ESRAM to make up for the shortcomings of its DDR3 RAM before the Xbox One X switched to GDDR5. Since the Xbox One X is obviously optimized for gaming performance, and since gaming performance doesn't translate to mining performance, it's possible the ESRAM in the original Xbox One gives it such a good boost while the Xbox One X is more like a traditional graphics card so its hashrate is where we expect it to be.

But still, to give it such a huge boost that it's nearly equivalent to the Xbox One X? It still seems unlikely even with my ESRAM theory. I think most likely it was just some confusion or misinterpretation. He was probably referring to the CPU's between the two systems having the same performance. In fact, in my own browser based JavaScript mining on my Xbox One consoles, the original Xbox One actually got slightly, but consistently better hashrates than the Xbox One X CPU. It was really weird and I had no explanation for it. So if the original Xbox One could somehow pull off better CPU mining hashrate than the Xbox One X, then maybe GPU mining on the original Xbox One will surprise me too!
OG XB1 CPU is 1.75 GHz vs 2.3 GHz on X, so this is really weird... +32% difference in single-threaded tasks.
1880  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: SGMiner on XBOX One on: February 14, 2018, 10:22:58 PM
An xbox one cryptonight miner is actively under development by therealcrypt for the altcoin Turtle Coin.  It's in alpha, so not publicly released as of yet.

It is working with native CPU mining, currently around 100 h/s (hasn't been fully optimized yet, and running in low power mode).

Once GPU mining is working, the total hash rate is estimated to be around 900 H/s.

Apparently it doesn't matter which xbox one version is being used (xbox one, xbox one s, or xbox one x), they will all get the same hash rate since teraflops doesn't compute to mining & all versions have the same CPU and GPU.

If you have UWP or other M$ related dev skills, you might be able contribute to project, or at least get the latest status updates at the TurtleCoin discord channel @ https://discord.gg/cP7NcGw

I've been buying up xbox one s at discounts, hope to have 10 of them running eventually Smiley
That's good news. Thanks for the heads up! Smiley

Btw, can you explain why both the OG/S and the X GPU have the same hashing performance?

OG XBOX ONE has a Radeon 7790 (200 H/s*), while XBOX ONE X has an RX 580 (800 H/s*). Surely they cannot have the same hashing performance?

* Source: http://monerobenchmarks.info/
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