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1881  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: March 27, 2015, 04:14:59 PM
Mr CEO calling forth the troops for an assault on those pesky reporters again:

https://hashtalk.org/topic/35117/now-that-we-didn-t-go-mtgox-on-our-customers
Archive: https://archive.today/WxiAv

Time for a big ol HT circle jerk! WooHoo, Friday! "YaaaH! He only locks us out of our accounts for a ~week per month while relentlessly dumping XPY on the exchanges! Yipppeee! Thank you!"

Terror against journalists - the long awaited, new feature™ of Paycoin.

Oh yeah so it's now the media's fault, I seem to remember the same delay tactic was used when shipping their asic miners in which they would create false tracking numbers by submitting the paperwork online so they could say the miners were shipped in their "guaranteed next day shipping" but then ship them out a week or two later and blame the shipping company.

Nothings going to happen but a couple marshmallows, I'd like to see Josh try to take them to court and provide proof that the halts weren't deliberate but of course they just take their word without proof, as always.

A blast from the past!

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Why dont you post from your real account?
This is my real account. I have not felt the need to post here until now and am happy to lurk.

The reason I finally created an account and started posting is because of the attrocious customer service and outright lack of truth about my order coming from GAW. I am a strong supporter of companies that deserve it, and equally strong in letting others know when companies are behaving badly. Gaw, in my case, behaved extremely badly.

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This has been a very interesting situation. We have called FedEx several times on your behalf and they claim that all that needs to be done is to have the duties and taxes paid. I have fulfilled your request to have a full refund issued. We have called fed ex and will have the package re routed to us. I am sincerely sorry the miscommunication on your order.
It's "very interesting" indeed. I got an original tracking number issued Monday August 4 after my order on August 1 and was told several times that the packages were in Canada waiting for me to pay for duty and taxes, yet Fedex themselves told me no, the packages hadn't been received and no duty or taxes were due because they weren't in Canada for Customs to inspect.

A second tracking number issued on Tuesday August 12 (after I'd been told several times that the Aug 4 tracking number was in Canada waiting for Customs payments). Again, after being told the packages were due to arrive Aug 13, and again being told that I needed to pay the duty and taxes to release them, Fedex still didn't have receipt of the shipment.

In both cases Fedex was able to tell me when I called and what we talked about. They had no records of any contact from the shipper other than Gaw electronically sending in the shipment details, which anyone with an online account can do. Fedex, as well as UPS and other couriers have an extremely robust tracking system to ensure that every one of their hundreds of thousands of packages are delivered to the right place at the right time. It's kind of odd that Gaw is telling me that Fedex is wrong, with two different tracking numbers. If the original order had been shipped and was waiting in customs for me, why then the second tracking number? And what happened to that original tracking number? Still sitting in the Fedex system, showing paperwork submitted and no parcels.

And as soon as I demanded that my order be cancelled and refunded, late that next day Fedex showed the packages were picked up in HATTIESBURG, MS (but the shipment papers were opened from a BLOOMFIELD, CT address). They eventually arrived at my destination where they were refused and returned to sender as after all the hassle I was not willing to take the chance of bad miners being received.

To their credit Gaw did refund my purchase without further issue.

It's equally "very interesting" that the thread I started on Reddit going through the details of this was deleted and my account there banned. Apparently the truth hurts.

Anyhow my rant is over. I've ordered from a different company and am quite happy to have received those units within 3 days of the order being placed. And through Fedex, that same Fedex that lost the Gaw shipment not once but twice...

This all could have been easily avoided had Gaw been open and truthful about the status of my shipment and the delays. I could have accepted the delays but all the deceit did it for me.

Hope you all have better experiences.
1882  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: March 27, 2015, 04:08:31 PM
Pfft
1883  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CON] PayCon POS Only - Mandatory/Feature Update - Get your CON on!!! on: March 27, 2015, 03:38:23 PM
The Show goes on!

We Will Win!!!

Oh well it was more that they wanted help dispelling false accusations on their thread so I even posted there to help them out a bit, helping them also helps us. The ones that have been around for a while can see things for what they are but you also need new investors to help a community grow so you don't want false information.
1884  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] INFINITECOIN - UPDATE TO 1.8.8 visit INFINITECOIN.COM on: March 27, 2015, 03:21:50 PM
Well since you guys might not Post always on the PayCon thread, I'll just quote it here since it helps you guys too, false accusations as usual.

Hippie Tech FUD:

For those not in the know, IFC's real dev is and always was, muddafudda. He, zackclark and the rest of his cryptsy buds staged everything from the very expensive client update to the IFC vs IFCv2/COL drama queen parade.

And they are STILL at it with CON vs PYC, COLv2.. ect..

That's nonsense
and FUD. Do you suffer from paranoia? Cheesy

Lol, well I haven't really looked too much into who actually made IFC and he often gets his facts wrong since he just looks at something and assumes and posts without checking. He stated that PayCon was based off PYC (which he should have stated was XPY and is also a totally different coin) and yet it was actually based off of CzechCoin which you could see by checking the source. Mudda didn't even have a hand in the CV2 client, he can clone decently and does fair launches but often rushes things. Originally CV2 was X11 while in Beta but I brought it in line with PayCon code for the final launch as it had a couple extra features, allows me to keep both code bases in step and reduce costs. I don't know why he is even mentioning zackclark, I tried so many times to help him figure things out and offer help but I think he just gave up. I'm pretty sure he still thinks I am Mudda just because I decided to take over 2 Coins but arguing with him is pointless, I saw those posts and decided it wasn't worth it. Basic math would prove him wrong if adding up my posts, Mudda's and all my posts on the Col forums along with the arguments I had with him and the way we type, I even told him where I was from in a quoted post (also in my profile) and he still got that wrong, I could see that Mudda was Aussie by the language used, why couldn't he see it?... But I guess that would take logical reasoning.

First lead developer was Fisheater
Second lead developer:TECHshare and technical Dev: uRndUsr

After a long hard fight to get INFINITECOIN back in good shape, today I think we are beginning to make the first steps of the new phase of this coins growth. Congratulations everyone on all the great work you have done so far. The growth over the past few weeks has been astonishing and demand has clearly increased for INFINITECOIN. I am here now to introduce myself if you do not already know me. I have been a participant in the cryptocoin community for over 2 years with most of my activity on bitcointalk.org. I am an early supporter of IFC, and I have been working very hard along with many others in our community to make sure INFINITECOIN can compete in this very chaotic marketplace.  I believe I have demonstrated my intent towards developing IFC for the betterment of the user base as a whole, and hope that I have earned your trust enough as a community to get your help moving it forward and growing our market share and services.

Due to the fact that our previous lead developer Fisheater is busy with his day job, We have both agreed that I will step forward and help organize and facilitate this coins growth during the transition into a fully robust system which provides unique services as well as a great investment opportunity. I have arranged for a new lead developer to take over. He goes by the username uRndUsr. I have known him for years and I have had him work on projects for me in the past and he has my full faith and confidence that he will bring this coin forward to great new heights with a solid client now and in the future.

UrndUsr has worked very hard non stop over the past week through Thanksgiving to get everyone here a fix to the sync issues in the 1.8 client as soon as possible. We plan to release a 2.0 version very soon! For now though time constraints demanded this new 1.8.5 fix version be released quickly so as to have the least disruptive effect possible and get new users acclimated more easily without issue. We are looking foreword to creating something special for this coin and its community.

As far as the future we have plans to target the developing economic markets in Africa and Asia in order to leverage the newly affordable mobile technology just now saturating those markets and providing a digital infrastructure in which INFINITECOIN can thrive. The goal will be reducing the barrier to entry to the cryptocoin market to almost nothing giving these communities access to the global banking system when they might otherwise have no other access to it. Please join us at http://www.infinitecointalk.org to chip in or learn more!
1885  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CON] PayCon POS Only - Mandatory/Feature Update - Get your CON on!!! on: March 27, 2015, 03:09:53 PM
Hippie Tech FUD:

For those not in the know, IFC's real dev is and always was, muddafudda. He, zackclark and the rest of his cryptsy buds staged everything from the very expensive client update to the IFC vs IFCv2/COL drama queen parade.

And they are STILL at it with CON vs PYC, COLv2.. ect..

That's nonsense
and FUD. Do you suffer from paranoia? Cheesy

Lol, well I haven't really looked too much into who actually made IFC and he often gets his facts wrong since he just looks at something and assumes and posts without checking. He stated that PayCon was based off PYC (which he should have stated was XPY and is also a totally different coin) and yet it was actually based off of CzechCoin which you could see by checking the source. Mudda didn't even have a hand in the CV2 client, he can clone decently and does fair launches but often rushes things. Originally CV2 was X11 while in Beta but I brought it in line with PayCon code for the final launch as it had a couple extra features, allows me to keep both code bases in step and reduce costs. I don't know why he is even mentioning zackclark, I tried so many times to help him figure things out and offer help but I think he just gave up. I'm pretty sure he still thinks I am Mudda just because I decided to take over 2 Coins but arguing with him is pointless, I saw those posts and decided it wasn't worth it. Basic math would prove him wrong if adding up my posts, Mudda's and all my posts on the Col forums along with the arguments I had with him and the way we type, I even told him where I was from in a quoted post (also in my profile) and he still got that wrong, I could see that Mudda was Aussie by the language used, why couldn't he see it?... But I guess that would take logical reasoning.
1886  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: March 27, 2015, 02:37:09 PM
Still waiting on the amounts and TXid's of the "hacked" PayCoins
1887  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: March 27, 2015, 02:30:18 PM


Can anyone spot a pattern in the XPY chart? Roll Eyes Its PumpDay, known to some as Friday.

Hard to believe this current "political discussion" erupted when I simply used the "P Word" a single time with no specific political connotation whatsoever. Equally hard to believe is that many people are still stuck in the Left/Right Paradigm trance. It is just a control mechanism fabricated by the Power Elite to keep people divided and fighting each other, while at the same time making them believe that they are part of the political system. It is all just a show put on exactly the same way as a WWF match. You can argue about who is going to win and even bet on it if you are so inclined. But the people putting on the show are the only winners, and the two guys in the ring ride away in the same limo with the promoter who hand selected both of them and instructed them on how to make the match play out, tinkling glasses and laughing about how they fooled the crowd after the match. Probably catch some flak over that statement I guess, but whatever. Another simple game the Powers That Be play with society is the God/No God Paradigm. Both sides are based on Belief that they know the answer. If you are engaged in something that requires Belief, you are most likely being played by someone.


CEO - "Guys I have great news for you but can't share what it is, be sure to have plenty of BTC handy"

Average Hashtalker - "Oh wow thanks great leader I will be sure to do that, I bet it's going to be GAWsome"

CEO - *Waits until Friday for people to get paid*

CEO - "I have just released these fantastic new forums (which took an hour to make and cost nothing) and they cost 1 MILLION DOLLARS!! and magically the deposits have cleared up, just in time too!!"

Average Hashtalker - "Oh wow! such great leader, I knew we could trust you!! I'm going to buy right now"

CEO - *dumps coins*

Average Hashtalker - "Why is the price down oh great leader"

CEO - "Damn FUDsters are keeping the price down, you should be so angry at them"
1888  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Colossuscoin v 2.0 (CV2) | [X13] [PoW/PoS][in 100% PoS Stage][new Upgrade] on: March 27, 2015, 02:10:08 PM
Fantastic, I'll be adding in some swappable themes soon but want to combine it alongside some feature upgrades as well.

How have you guys been coming with the swap form? I would prefer to let you guys handle that part and focus on CV2 features and upgrades.
1889  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: March 27, 2015, 01:05:37 PM
Showtime! Any predictions on the sham feature to be presented to counter the dumpage that will occur when people get their XPY from Cashtakers? Assuming of course, that they actually will this time. Paycoin Spaceship unveiling? XPY Submarine Habitat project for beleibers, a hybrid of SeaLab 2020 &  Scientology?  They could call the project "PaySea Org". If they stay in international waters, the GAW/ Team Paycoin perps could run this scam indefinitely....


https://hashtalk.org/topic/35075/the-calm-before-the-storm/3
Archive: https://archive.today/il9Ka

Rumor is they are going to buy a bridge and the only way to get across it is to pay a tool in XPY....

^^^^^  Cheesy We need a upvote button like Hashtalk!!!

Paying a toll is actually the correct term, but in this case I think paying a tool is more accurate. Cheesy


I wonder how long until they catch on that the halted withdrawals are deliberate to stop people dumping just in time for them to "realease their grand update" which will be some wordpress site and wrile them all up so they start buying. I remember someone posting a few hundred pages back about Joshes tactic to keep people holding on. He posted way before PayCoin on some forums, might be good to do some digging and bring the post back up.

Still waiting on those TXid's and amounts of the "hacked" PayCoins....
1890  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Cryptocurrency "The Alt-ernative" (Second Edition) VOTE on: March 27, 2015, 12:38:30 PM
You are still missing ColossusCoin2 and PayCon

Would be great to continue the ongoing chapters of ColossusCoin from the first book and can make for a great read.

Colossuscoin is through, so this will naturally include Colossuscoin2

ColossusCoin2 is running and trading on alcurex and gets updates along with PayCon. Last week I added in a host of new functions and features, swappable themes ready to go and working on full anon. ColossusCoin is still trading on Cryptsy and we are working on the conversion so no it's not through.
1891  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][HYP] HyperStake | 750% PoS | Secure | MultiSend | liteStake | Coin Control on: March 27, 2015, 11:56:46 AM
HYP the only true Crypto coin.

I believe we are coming up on a one year anniversary fairly soon.

Really great Coin, Presstab and Tranz are two of the best Proof of Stake coders in the community. I've gone through code of nearly 1000 Coins by now and noticed that there are a number of them who have had help from Tranz for continued development. Presstab and Tranz are of the few that have introduced features and improvements beyond just cloning of code, Presstab was the first to introduce a subsidy limit, a large range of Stake functions and Litestake, and I'm quite surprised that other Coins haven't introduced the HoboNickels multi-wallet function but maybe that is a bit too complex for people to clone.

Anyways, I just wanted to help out a little bit to get a few more people interested in something with great people behind it, keep up the awesome work guys Smiley

Dude, I'd give Press my firstborn child. YES, he is that good!

Presstab offered to do some work for PayCon because I was mentioning about all the great things that were a part of the HyperStake code and gave some help with some example commits. I finished everything and asked if he could give me a quote on a couple things I was sure he could do. We paid him and then boom, he did it all in like an hour and it worked flawlessly and then even went above and beyond and added in a swappable theme. I hope we can do some more paid stuff together as well and will definitely help get the word out.
1892  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Most undervalued coin? on: March 27, 2015, 11:14:15 AM
Cryptonite, for the creation of the mini-blockchain scheme.
http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/cryptonite
cryptonite.info

Other candidates:
BURST, for being the first proof-of-capacity (HDD mining). Also it already has smart contracts.

Myriad, for Multi-POW: http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/myriadcoin/

NODE, for proof-of-activity. But they launched with an IPO, I don't know in what terms.


No ico/premine/investor coins.

PayCon has unique POS only mining, in PayCon every Block is worth 30 CON each which creates a type of byzantine mining. Higher security against double spends than POW coins for a couple dollars in electricity a month plus you gain over and above the money supply inflation. Since all POS rewards are the same, you gain the Coins that other people are not Staking so instead of your Coins losing value over time, you actually gain value over time, plus there is the added bonus that Stakers don't need to sell Coins to pay for mining costs so you have far less sell pressure and all sell pressure comes only from investors. If you sell Coins (or don't Stake), other people gain more.

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I'm not against IPOs/ICOs at all. The process of development of a coin costs a lot of money. Programmers, computers, testnet network, time...

I think the most important thing is doing this process in a fair way.


Development and marketing does not cost a lot of money, this is the great fallacy of the Crypto world. If you have moderate coding skills and a good idea along with commitment you can do the entire Coin with under $1000 spent on development. PayCon is a testament to that fact as it had no ICO/IPO and so far we've added a huge host of features and Blockchain improvements, social media, video production, forums, games with a total of $500 spent!

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Applebyte ABY seems to have a massive premine but it has a sort of original idea in a way. Market cap $62,000.

Shadowcash $600,000 and moderated thread.

Blackcoin $1,000,000 and moderated thread.

Whitecoin $100,000 and moderated thread.

Syscoin is overtraded as is mentioned by the poster, also moderated and premined. $147,000.


Blackcoin has an unmoderated thread too, but lately they created a moderated thread because of the trolls. Anyway, you are free to create an unmoderated thread about any of these coins.

PayCon is completely unmoderated, you don't need moderation if you are awesome, plus has a ridiculously low marketcap of $5,000.
1893  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CON] PayCon POS Only - Mandatory/Feature Update - Get your CON on!!! on: March 27, 2015, 10:53:31 AM
I've been tinkering around with Stealth now that we have swappable wallet themes.



There's a couple things I want to work on, I've already pulled and adapted Stealth addresses (as introduced by ShadowCoin) but needs a little fine tuning of keys, along with some address optimization, one use only keys and .onion nodes, I think that would cover the anonymity and security side.

Would also be looking at using a central server for rapid Blockchain syncing up to a static point, that would cover having fast sync times at all points in time.

I also want to tighten up the time limits for accepting of Blocks and see if we can get litestake {as introduced by HyperStake) and reduce strain on computer CPU usage

We have Android and IOS wallets currently being worked on (elmanagers cousin is working on it as far as I know)

Pretty much, if we can add all that in then we are all set and can start planning the PayConvention, buy your tickets with cash or PayCon (at a big discount), everything payable in PayCon from merchandise (t-shirts, buttons, hats etc) to drinks and food. We could throw in a laser light show, DJ's, burlesque and fine dining food and everyone can Get their CON on!

A party is pretty cheap, the PR and needing to buy Coins to get tickets would be well enough if it just broke even but even then to throw an event costs pennies on the dollar anyways. Who needs these boring lectures about Blockchain technology...YAWN!! Crypto should be exciting.

Sounds interesting. I like to buy some tickets!  Grin

I'm going to send you a rough copy of the 4th video today.

Fantastic, I look forward to seeing it!

I'm having a few problems with my computer right now. I'll get the video to you tomorrow.  Smiley

No worries, we have no deadline for it so when it's ready then it's ready and not a moment sooner.
1894  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CON] PayCon POS Only - Mandatory/Feature Update - Get your CON on!!! on: March 27, 2015, 10:52:41 AM
I thought this announcement was just a joke. But it is a real coin.

FML.


Tongue it's a legit Coin pretending to be a scam, it's how Crypto is done in 2015.

Have some fun and make some jokes but in it's core the focus is on security, profitability for the userbase and establishing long-term markets at low cost. Only sell pressure can come from the holders with high rewards without hyper-inflation, mining costs a couple dollars in electricity a month and we do the development ourselves. So far we've spent about $400-500 on development so actual sell pressure and investment needs are very low which means more profits for investors. Making a joke out of it highlights the fact that all Coins are just clones of other Coins, and having no plans, no rules and no moderation gives the freedom to build depending on reactions of the market and you aren't under pressure of deadlines. It also is great at screening for the people you really want, because there would be many that would look at it and say "oh I don't want this" and walk away but if someone were to really look into it, they would see that it actually has some good tech, ideas and people behind it Smiley
1895  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: March 27, 2015, 10:14:09 AM
Man, people waste so much time on this PayCoin shit (I'm including myself in this as well)

Just need to get Josh in court and everything out in the open so we can end this bullshit and people can spend their time working on Coins that can actually provide innovation and reward for holding/investing.

You have created an entire parody coin in response to paycoin which you advertise daily. So your statement above is very ironic.

I didn't create the parody, muddafudda did but I thought it was ironic and a great marketing strategy since there is so much activity around the PayCoin. It could have gone either way, they could have done it well (which was fairly unlikely given the way it was set up and the track record) and then it's a direct competition, or it goes horribly badly and the detractors (which see through these things) help us build something better. To advertise everywhere helps everyone that owns any PayCon since I would only sell what I have if absolutely necessary so it would only be the holders that could sell, which are all Bitcointalk people and everyone who owns some bought their Coins or possibly still have them through mining.

it is still a bit confusing to me what altcoin should i buy for saving - paycoin or paycon? from what i've read paycoin is a scam and paycon is legit coin right? and i should buy paycon if i want to hold and sell later for profit? what is the easiest way to get it  Huh

If you would like to buy some PayCon, I can sell you some at a reasonable price, send me a message of how much you want to buy and for how much and we can make the trade through C-Cex (or you can just put up a buy order and I can sell you some), or we can use escrow if you want a flat rate but C-Cex likes volume because it helps them make money too. I would sell you up to 50k @ 350 Satoshis which would be a little over 1% for a total of 0.15 BTC and you would likely be able to make profit even over the short term. I do buy Coins myself on a fairly regular basis/support the market, and work on development/marketing on a daily basis as well. Of course PayCon is also completely decentralized so it also needs help from the people that own the Coin but preferably things that cost nothing to do, if you need help understanding how things work, you can also leave a message in the thread and I can help you with any problems or concerns you may have.
1896  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: March 27, 2015, 12:45:09 AM


I disagree, all a Coin really needs are the people helping make it a success.

Please explain how a disproportionate hyper-inflationary coin that will require exponentially increasing numbers of BTC or fiat, no matter how much any number of people want to make it a success, will do anything but fail?

Please... I'm actually dying to know the answer to that question...

EDIT:  And a market value of 1,000 coins to .00000001BTC isn't considered success in anyone's definition of that word... just to be clear before anyone answers...

It's not disproportionatly hyper-inflationary because it grows at a fixed rate of 30 CON per Block, which makes it gain 15.7 Million per year, every year. In proportion to the money supply the reward reduces over time so it's a 500% increase the first year, 100% the second year, 50% the third year and then begins to rely more on transaction Fees which also pays into Stake. This is the same inflation as POW Coins, only it works as a POS only Coin.

Success is termed upon the amount of development, market adoption and creating the real world uses, the inflation acts to add liquidity to the market but you are still gaining a small amount over the money supply growth rate by holding and the Coins in transition (or not Staking) means Blocks with lower amounts will Stake sooner.
1897  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Help with dead coin on: March 27, 2015, 12:31:18 AM
Or....

You can develop your game for PayCon which has an active community, is listed on exchanges, pays much better and receive Coins for your efforts.
1898  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: March 27, 2015, 12:26:17 AM
Showtime! Any predictions on the sham feature to be presented to counter the dumpage that will occur when people get their XPY from Cashtakers? Assuming of course, that they actually will this time. Paycoin Spaceship unveiling? XPY Submarine Habitat project for beleibers, a hybrid of SeaLab 2020 &  Scientology?  They could call the project "PaySea Org". If they stay in international waters, the GAW/ Team Paycoin perps could run this scam indefinitely....


https://hashtalk.org/topic/35075/the-calm-before-the-storm/3
Archive: https://archive.today/il9Ka

Reminds me of a little blast from the past

https://cryptocointruth.wordpress.com/
1899  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: March 27, 2015, 12:17:46 AM
How about we do a swap for PayCoin holders for PayCon? We can charge above market for the swap and sell XPY and buy up all the CON.

Nice try, but who's gonna buy the XPY from you and how will you prevent double-tripple-infinite-dipping? And the result will still be something everybody will want to dump ASAP Smiley

I disagree, all a Coin really needs are the people helping make it a success. For example, if there was the same investment rate as XPY then holders would need to dump otherwise it would go to the moon, so many would make ROI and hold onto the rest, ones that do hold would gain as difficulty drops from the Coins in transition. There is a fixed rate of inflation per day, less Coins being eligible for Staking means current Stakers gain more. Obviously it's harder to persuade the people that really matter as they challenge everyone but more beneficial to have around. They are pumping thousands into XPY everyday, we've only spent maybe $400 in total on the development and achieved so much more. Say for example someone wanted to invest $1500, well that would help pay existing developers in the community for things like additional features and complete anon, android and IOS wallets and could even establish a floor price, if the entire value of the currency is like 2-5K USD, you could back the entire float with no problem. I however am more or less the one powering it all with limited time and funds and would like to make something that is actually self-sustaining and profitable.
1900  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: March 26, 2015, 11:50:52 PM
How about we do a swap for PayCoin holders for PayCon? We can charge above market for the swap and sell XPY and buy up all the CON.
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