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1881  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: December 04, 2023, 10:48:07 AM
Porto and Shakthar will appear all out in their last match, because the results of the match will determine whether they will qualify for the last 16 or not. For Porto maybe a draw is enough to bring them to the knockout round, but still if they play it safe then the risk is also very large, because it is certain that Shakthar will appear all out. As for Shakhtar, victory is the only way they can get 1 ticket to the last 16.
The problem for them is that they will play as a guest team, and when their first meeting also lost to Porto, of course this will be even more difficult.
1882  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: December 04, 2023, 10:30:40 AM
Valencia played very well in the first half and led 1-0 over Girona but dropped their performance in the 2nd half and Girona scored two consecutive goals in the 82nd and 88th minutes to win the match. It was a bad luck for Valencia. Valencia's performance was outstanding towards the end of the game. Big congratulations to them

But if you only cogitate about the timing of the goals that Girona scored, the impression could arise that Valencia played well, but in reality Girona was the far superior team and the goals were the result of their performance. If Valencia took home a point from this game, it would have been mostly luck in my opinion. Still they fought hard for as long as they could and perhaps sometimes they can save this one goal and not concede any, but in many cases this doesn't play out very well for the inferior team. Resisting so much pressure over more than 90 minutes and winning the game is rather lucky.
But in reality Valencia could hold out for at least 80 minutes of the match. Given Girona's possession, defending the entire time would have been very difficult. They didn't play well, but they didn't play badly either, which means they were average.
I agree that Girona are beter than Valencia anyway, they're competing in the top half of the table which we know is a place that has always been dominated by 3 clubs, Real Madrid, Barcelona and Atletico Madrid. and when they can be one of them, it's a good record that they can do.
1883  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: December 04, 2023, 10:04:52 AM
Actually this does not only apply in the Europa League, in all competitions big clubs have the opportunity to be defeated by small clubs and even with a very significant difference. I don't know if the big clubs in the Europa League are currently serious in the Europa League or not, because like it or not I have to say that the Europa League is less prestigious because this is the second level after the Champions League. And even those who often get titles in this Europa League can be said to be still controlled by medium-sized clubs, even though there are big clubs joined here.
Very few people realize that surprises actually happen more often in the Europa League and in fact they do, I agree with you on this. In simple terms, the most interesting thing here apart from the championship trophy is the ticket to play in the Champions League. This is the target of clubs that have the toughest competitive level in their domestic league, such as those who play in the English Premier League. So far, even though Liverpool is the favorite club to win the championship trophy, we have to look at the facts of the standings too.

Well for me the Europa League is a very useful opportunity for clubs that have difficulty winning titles in the domestic league. I mean this, when a club in the Premier League for example they are in the Europa League, I am very sure they will prioritize the Premier League even though it might only be in the top 4, especially if it gets the title there. It is true that when they win the Europa League, they will automatically be in the Chmpions League too. But from what I have seen so far is that more big clubs make their domestic league a priority, especially if it is the Premier League.
1884  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: December 04, 2023, 09:47:25 AM

Looking at the statistics of the match, I think it was a match where Borussia Dortmund should be happy with the 1 point they got. They had a very tough match and Bayer Leverkusen wore them out a lot. They are unlucky not to beat because they created a lot of chances. At least they were not defeated, so we have to think like that. Bayern will be the happiest with this loss.

This is not the first match in which Dortmund has acted in this way against a strong opponent, they did something similar in the match against Newcastle. For Dortmund, an away draw is a completely acceptable result, but for Bayer it is a loss of very important points, now Bayern will almost certainly be able to take advantage of these and get ahead of them, although if they win they will be equal on points, but Bayern will have a better goal difference.
At least they didn't lose this match, because if I look at the course of the match I can say that Leverkusen deserves to be able to win this match. They lost everything in this game, but they were lucky enough to score an early goal in the 5th minute, although in the end they had to defend to withstand Leverkusen's atacks. In the frst half they did a good job, but it's like that, no matter how strong they defend, if they continue to be attacked, it will create an opening too and that happened in the 79th minute when Leverkusen could create a goal to equalize the score.
1885  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: December 04, 2023, 09:25:52 AM
For Napoli to get into the top 4 is indeed a difficult thing, but this season is still very long and they still have a chance to do that.
Napoli's next match, which will play at Juventus' headquarters, will also be difficult, especially as Juventus is in good form at the moment so there is very little chance that Napoli will win.
I think the opportunity for Napoli to return to the top four is wide open because what they get is when they face a team that is stronger than them unless they get bad results when facing a weak team like they got against Empoli so the owner decides to replace their coach with the current one.
Their points with AS Roma are the same and only behind by goal difference, so Napoli may still get a place to continue playing in the champions league next season because Roma is also not a consistent team, they still often get random results, only in the last four matches Roma is quite got a lot of points because they only had 1 draw, the rest were wins, but against Fiorentina next week it might be different because this is quite a difficult match in my opinion.
Yes, I agree that Napoli's chances of being in the top 4 are still very wide open with many matches remaining in this Serie A. It's just that their journey to be able to do that will not be as smooth as last season, yes there will be a lot of obstacles they will face to make it happen. Last season, we saw their striking differences and can be the toughest club in Serie A. But this season is much different, they are still struggling and they have to change coaches when their new coach has not passed the half of the season. But then again, their chances of being in the top 4 are still wide open.
1886  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: December 04, 2023, 09:07:01 AM
I was very surprised when I found out that Gianluigi Donnarumma got a red card in the opening minutes and I still don't know the details of why he had to be sent off by the referee. But what is clear is that this is very detrimental for PSG when they have wide open opportunities to widen the gap from Nice but have to suffer the loss of losing their main goalkeeper. However, even though PSG is currently ahead with 1 goal scored by Kylian Mbappe, it is still quite worrying if there is a draw in the remaining minutes.

The match has been going on for around 75 minutes and there are 15 minutes remaining in normal time. If PSG succeeds in maintaining this advantage or can increase their number of goals, of course their victory will be guaranteed, but if their defense starts to weaken, Le Havre will make good use of it to end in a draw.

The card came in just too early and it gave me enough balls to go play the game live as I played it a full time draw thinking they'll repeat the same way they did during the midweek against Newcastle United. They gave me some level of pressure as I also placed a soft game to get a little fee from em. PSG should strive to make sure they win this League Competition. I know Luis Enrique only came in but they should put themselves today and tommorow together.

As predicted Per Emerick Aubameyang was also on the goal scorers last night as Marseille went ahead to win that game with two goals to nothing.
With a man advantage from the 10th minute, the fact is that Le Havre couldn't win this match. But they also played well just maybe luck was not on their side in this match. They made 22 attempts and 7 of them were on target, but none of them could lead to a goal. On the contrary, Paris Saint Germain can create goals even 13 minutes after they get a red card. from here we can see that indeed the difference in the quality of players will be very influential in the match and it is very felt by Le Havre in this match.
1887  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 04, 2023, 08:47:16 AM
The spurs really got is some surprise package yesterday because it was actually looking like this city boys has got totally control already and are going to win by the end of the match, althrough the first half, the city boys had more chances for goal which they did missed.

But it turned out that by the end of the match the the spurs were able to secure a point from the city boys. I must commend the spurs because they did had an incident that could have possibly caused their morales to be low but the fought back hard regardless and it did turned out the got a fair results, they have successfully maintained this fift position while denying city the opportunity to have gotten to the top even at their home.
Despite not winning, this is a very good result achieved by Tottenham. Not only that, the two clubs put on a very interesting game, exchanging goals and until they ended the match with a 3-3 draw. After 3 consecutive defeats for Tottenham, I thought they would lose again and extend their losing streak, but they managed to at least get 1 point from this very difficult match.
Next game, they will host West Ham, and if they can do the same thing they did in this match, then they will be able to win in my opinion.
1888  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: December 04, 2023, 08:25:03 AM
Passing week 15, there is actually no change in position, it's just that now the point gap between Al Hilal and Al Nassr is widening after Al Nassr lost a big match against Al Hilal. After previously their point gap was 5 points, now, their point gap is 7 points. Of course, it's a long distance, especially when Al Hilal has a very impressive performance. It will be very difficult for Al Nassr to catch up with the 7-point gap, because they expect Al Hilal to have a negative result. But the problem is that now Al Hilal is very difficult to beat. of the 15 matches they played, they only won 2 draws and the rest they won the match without tasting defeat.
1889  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: CASHOUT OR NOT???? on: December 04, 2023, 01:07:27 AM

You bet it was quite an exciting ride, and yes I have learnt a few lessons from the experience too, although this wasn't the first time I'm encountering such a scenerio but this one was a tough knuckle. Like I said earlier OP if I'm faced with the same situation in the future and my instincts tell me not to cash out, I would follow it, that's one thing about instincts, sometimes they lead you to making her right decisions and sometimes they don't. And yeah next time I believe I'll get it in the bad
Well, this is something that do really happen on gambling field yet we are really that dealing with those things which we do need to choose up.Therefore, it do talks about complete risk taking on which there might be some people who wont really be able to dare out on cashing out early or would be going further until the end. If this one turns out to be a loss bet due to that 1 game loss
then it does really give out that kind of feeling on which it isnt really that pleasant but since you've been a bettor for long now then you  are already get used to it.
It is really that true that on the time that our intuition calls or instinct then it wont really be that a bad idea on trying out to follow it out.

Making the best decisions when our brains and minds are possessed by other things such as temptation is not easy, even when we think using common sense that it is a good decision but sometimes different conditions will also differ the thoughts that come out of our instincts, which is why gamblers often regret and say "I should have cashed it from the beginning", it is a familiar statement in terms of regret, and it is natural because regret always comes at the end.

But on the other hand can you change your approach a little bit to minimize the potential for regret at the end of the session? I think you can, and one of the things you have to do is always try to be at a good level of awareness especially in conditions when you win, if you need to write something on a blank paper like "cashing out is better than you regret" and put that writing in front of you, I think that method will be quite useful to help you reach the level of awareness when the feeling of greed starts to attack you.
1890  Economy / Economics / Re: #HODLing is not a smooth journey on: December 04, 2023, 12:01:43 AM
Sometimes money shortage nowdays holder faces huge problem who have not enough money but they want to invest and hold they really know the real suffering of a holder. All over that the journey is really smoth.

Describing holders or holding as a situation  of suffering seem a bit strange. Bitcoin enthusiasts are always adviced to only invest what they can afford to loss and also what they can be able to hold for a long time. Anyone who does not invest wisely, for example going to invest a very huge amount that is off their budget, then they will definitely learn from the experience they will get but that doesn't mean that they will suffer for holding. Bitcoin investment is less stressful and if you have a very good knowledge about investing in Bitcoin, you will not have a bad experience at all.

What about those who until now are still doing well in their accumulation journey if indeed the picture is true that holding is a situation of suffering? not a bit strange but I think it makes less sense, for people who have assumptions like that I think it looks like they are investing with the wrong approach as a result of not really understanding the things that exist in investment especially for all the possibilities that are very likely to occur. That's right, the idea that you said is true and maybe I think it has become a fairly common advice if we want to invest then we should use money that we can be responsible for any results, logically if there is profit there is also a loss or vice versa.

That is the first thing we must understand before finally deciding to get involved, lately I have seen quite a lot of wrong approaches taken by people, especially those who have just gotten involved, it seems that they come with the intention of getting something instantly and dreaming of becoming a millionaire so they put a large amount that they certainly cannot afford especially for the risks that are very likely to occur. On the other hand for the problem of suffering I think it comes back to themselves if they come with the wrong intention and without having any understanding of bitcoin investment then obviously they will feel suffering because the lack of knowledge creates quite a lot of pressure and worry.
1891  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do not gamble with Loan Money~otherwise you will be in danger like me on: December 03, 2023, 11:41:18 PM
It is obnoxious for anyone to borrow money just to gamble because, in my wisdom, it is as good as using all your income to gamble. I always advise people to use only 20% of their income to gamble and that's if they cannot stop. Gambling has wrecked more lives than it has brought people out of the trenches. The writer's story should serve as an eye-opener to other gamblers, especially people new to it because statistically, they are the most vulnerable.

Of course that's a completely ridiculous approach to gambling, they think that next session they'll get lucky and break even so they're desperate enough to take out a loan just to gamble, it's completely out of my mind. After all, it's just gambling where the end result really can't be predicted and only depends on your luck at the time, so with that alone I think they should be able to consider that excessive behavior in gambling is really not recommended and should not be done.

Your advice is quite good but I think by putting 20% of our income for gambling is too big, for myself honestly the most I only dare to put 10% of the income I have for gambling, but it doesn't matter if they are able to account for everything and are able to accept whatever the results are the point is not to affect mentally, psychologically and costs for your life. Statistically it is usually the beginners who are most vulnerable, it is true because beginners will usually be ambitious when they see a chance of winning, so you and they must be more careful and change that mindset.
1892  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Winning big amount after watching streamer on: December 03, 2023, 11:20:13 PM
Sometimes watching streamer and being motivated to play unknown games to us brings luck out of nowhere. Keep on trying but just don’t over commit. Trying the unknown and winning big time is really fun experience.
That's the essence of having gambling streamers they are there to motivate, tempt  and capture our interest  towards a particular game or casino, I mean that's what they are paid to do (to motivate us).  it's great trying out new games we ain't uses to as we don't know where in particular our luck lies, can be luck to beat the game at a first trial although not always the case, but when trying out new games whether the outcome turns out to be positive or  negative we should not get carried away by it, we keep our cool for just because it's a new game or it's your first time isn't a warranty that outcome  was supposed to favour you. Lucky op, congrats to him.

Yes that may be true, but in my opinion the role of the stremer refers more to teasing than motivating yes although I also do not fully say that motivation cannot be found there, because obviously with a very good game or very good luck that the stremer has, it makes us who watch feel like we have found a new way to gamble and also to get the same victory as them, the point is that expectations become higher when we are too carried away by what the stremer does there.

On the other hand, are you not suspicious at all about the luck that the stremers have? To be honest, maybe there are some who are aware of it but I think more are not aware of this, that as you said the stremers are paid by the casino to promote the site they have with the aim of attracting more audiences. I feel that the luck that the streamers have when broadcasting is very unusual, meaning that it is very good to get a very big win and it is a little unreasonable. On the other hand, don't be easily tempted by the way they do it and it's better to gamble in our own way, as you said by trying some new games that we don't know, it doesn't matter because maybe luck is there.
1893  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Risking 1% in Gambling on: December 03, 2023, 10:30:02 PM
~snip~
Yes, we should make other people's bad experiences as examples and lessons so that we don't have the same fate as them and end up with addiction, I think not everyone can go through extraordinary phases and pressures when they are already in the addiction zone, and many end up worse between stress, depression or even recently I've seen some news shows that there are desperate suicides due to dizziness because of debt due to excessive gambling.

I think the problem is as I said before that their mindset is very severe, they put too much hope in gambling, especially for victory so that they cannot limit all their activities and instead often do things out of control, and that means the first thing that must be corrected if they really want to change their bad habits then their mindset and understanding must first be changed, because if their understanding is correct then I think they can also make many changes, especially for the good of themselves so that they do not experience too significant an impact and do not end up addicted.
By taking other people's experiences as lessons for us, we can definitely think wisely and not try to experiment like them, especially since we know what impacts they have experienced, so we have to really pay attention to ourselves. It is indeed difficult to overcome or cure gambling addiction because it definitely hurts us, especially when we try to change ourselves so we can have new habits that are completely different from the usual ones.

That means they have to slowly change their mindset first so they can start reducing their gambling activities. After all, they have received the impact of gambling, and they should be able to realize that it is not in accordance with their initial goal of gambling, so they must try to change it. If they believe in themselves, they can definitely do it and can make a meaningful change so that they won't take any bigger risks. They are trying to prevent gambling addiction, which they could experience if they don't immediately realize it, especially if they feel that their gambling activities have started to change. They will quickly introspect what went wrong and fix it before it gets worse.

Yes it should be, after all I think there are many who have experienced such a downturn, or that means it is not uncommon to find someone who has experienced bad effects and maybe one of them is around you now, I also have a neighbor who is a victim of addiction, I saw all his vehicles sold off and also left a large debt at the bank, finally his parents had to sell the land assets they owned to pay off all his debts.

This is really a big problem that we should avoid and by taking such incidents as lessons then I think you will avoid the same condition a little bit, so appreciate some advice from others who are trying to make you better. Yes, it is very difficult to get out of the addiction zone and it will take a long time to reach full awareness, so therefore we must from now on try to get better by slowly reducing gambling activities along with the amount of budget, this is a way that I think is quite effective, because by reducing activity and reducing the amount of budget I am sure over time your interest in gambling will also decrease and I am sure you will be able to change or even stop when the time comes.
1894  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: December 03, 2023, 05:38:08 PM
Do not think anyone was surprised to see the result of this match. Lens performed well. At the 72nd minute, I thought the match might end in a draw because Lyon did well to actually level the score. But in the end, Lens was able to score another and make sure that they got three points from this match. Even though I would say that the score was not very surprising for anyone, however, I will also say that the match was hard for Lens to win in the end. And now I don't think Lyon is actually going to improve to a point where they will be able to get out of the relegation zone.
I'm not surprised by Lens win because that's how it should be if you know the situation that Lyon is currently experiencing, Lyon seems to be experiencing such deep difficulties that it's difficult to get up and make changes, I don't know what wrong with this team so that it has experienced such a significant decline and has changed coaches. Even though Lyon is still not improving, if they want to renovate and recruit quality players, of course they need a lot of capital, while this team definitely doesn't have a lot of capital to invest in players who can build this team. It is very likely that Lyon will be relegated this season.
In the last 5 seasons, Lyon has never been out of the top 8 on the standings, even in some seasons they have finished ranked in the top 5. But look at this season, they are at the bottom of the table with a collection of 7 points and they only taste 1 victory. That is a very deep decline for Lyon.
Talking about this match, actually their game is not bad, it's just that for now Lens's mentality is better and they are also playing at home in this match. But if the time is still left long enough when Lens gets a red card, I'm sure Lyon will be able to equalize or even turn things around.
1895  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: December 03, 2023, 05:22:14 PM
Even though the situation is very difficult, Manchester United still has a chance to qualify for the round of 16. The only way for Manchester United to qualify for the last 16 is to win against Bayer Munchen and hope that the match between Copenhagen vs Galatasaray ends in a draw. Even though it's tough, in football anything can happen.
These two things are quite difficult for Manchester United because the opponents they face are quite tough opponents in Group A so far and Copenhagen and Galatasaray will also try their best to win so they can qualify for the next round. Because Copenhagen and Galatasaray are both very aware that they also have the opportunity to qualify for the next round if they can win their final match in Group A. So this will certainly be quite difficult for Manchester United in their last match because apart from having to hope to win, they also have to hope that the other side's match ends in a draw.
First, they have to win against Bayern Munich is a very difficult thing. Secondly, expecting a draw in the Galatasaray vs Copenhagen match is also very difficult. Hoping for others is a very difficult thing, not only in football, but even in life it will be very difficult. Lol
It's luck that will get them through, why? Because if they rely on themselves maybe I would say it's the result of their hard work, yes although I can't let go there is luck, but it doesn't dominate. But when hoping on other clubs, it is pure luck in my opinion.
1896  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 03, 2023, 05:07:03 PM
Chelsea have qualified, but we can’t predict because the game is still ongoing, but I have more trust in Chelsea that they will win the game because I am actually a fan of Chelsea and am very sure we have this game because from the indications of the game from the beginning, I know we have the game, but I will reserve my word till the end of the game so that I can speak and say what I want to say about the strongest of Chelsea.Though I know Brighton tried and they usually try their best in matches, and I know they are also strong, here I am to support my term in any circumstance, so I say, Again, we will win the game.
 
Chelsea managed to control the game in the first half and managed to lead 2-0 at the break. However, the red card that Gallagher received was certainly very worrying, making Pochettino very careful in instructing his troops. Until the second half of extra time, the Blues were still leading 3-2 and it looked like they would try to maintain that score. Brighton was very strong in building attacks but the players were very alert in reducing attacks.
Chelsea managed to win this match, although with great difficulty, because in the second half they received more attacks, yes it was because of the imbalance because they played with 10 men in the second half. Brighton managed to dominate the match, but Chelsea also managed to close every movement of Brighton players so they were very difficult to create goals.
I said they won this match dramatically, because playing with 10 people throughout the second half is a very difficult thing, especially when they are in a transition period of performance.
1897  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: December 03, 2023, 04:51:23 PM
The main reason Mbappe rejected Real Madrid was because of the money and privileges he received from Paris Saint Germain. But I see him regretting his decision, because now he is the one who wants to leave and does not want to extend his contract with Paris Saint Germain. I see him quite sorry for rejecting Real Madrid, which Real Madrid is his dream club since childhood.
The situation is different now, because even at Real Madrid there seem to be some people who are still very disappointed with this player. But until now I have not heard anything official from Real Madrid about this player, whether they are still pursuing or looking for another player.
Previously, Madrid had denied rumors of an agreement with Mbappe on their official website, this was a reaction to various reports which stated that Madrid and Mbappe had reached an agreement. After that, until now we have not heard any statement regarding Mbappe, either from himself, PSG or Madrid in an official context. Madrid will position itself as a dream club for all player, including Mbappe. We have repeatedly seen situations where Madrid always has a better bargaining value than any club, not just money, but a guarantee of winning. I believe Mbappe has a big desire to leave PSG and join Santiago Bernebeu, but after all the scenarios that have happened, I will just choose to see how the transfer negotiations end.
Yes, it was a denial that Real Madrid had reached an agreement with Mbappe, because indeed if there was no confirmation maybe until now it would be a ball that was getting wild. But my point is about whether Real Madrid's desire to pursue Mbappe still exists or not. Because previously, when Mbappe had not decided to join Paris Saint Germain, Real Madrid did pursue him with a lot of effort, yes you could say they were very passionate in bringing Mbappe.
I think Real Madrid are now more careful again, because indeed at that time anyone who was on the side of Real Madrid would be very disappointed with Mbappe's decision, because it was just a step away. So naturally then with that decision many people became displeased with Mbappe.
1898  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: December 03, 2023, 04:36:05 PM
The real test for liverpool has not yet started as well as leverkusen. We will be seeing the real performance from this team after it's going to face a strong club in the knock out stage. I remember leverkusen last season. It was losing against a mediocre club.
Xabi needs to make sure leverkusen will not repeat the same mistake again. I was favoring liverpool but im not willing to call liverpool become a team with biggest probability of winning the trophy.
In european league everything can happen. Even the big club can be beaten by the small club. This is why im not so optimistic by saying liverpool is going to win it with easy game.
People are also favoring roma too but it was always losing against praha. it means the strong club is not always giving guarantee for the club to win the trophy. It was only increasing the chance.
Actually this does not only apply in the Europa League, in all competitions big clubs have the opportunity to be defeated by small clubs and even with a very significant difference. I don't know if the big clubs in the Europa League are currently serious in the Europa League or not, because like it or not I have to say that the Europa League is less prestigious because this is the second level after the Champions League. And even those who often get titles in this Europa League can be said to be still controlled by medium-sized clubs, even though there are big clubs joined here.
1899  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: December 03, 2023, 04:19:16 PM
After winning in the previous match against Lazio, I think in the next match Salernitana will be able to get a good result. At least a draw, but not, it seems like Salernitana will not get good results again.
Because currently they are playing against Fiorentina, and Fiorentina home team is leading very well at halftime with a score of 2-0. The possibility of getting a draw in this match also will be very difficult for Salernitana, especially for a comeback. Because I think in the second half Fiorentina can get another scored.
In the other match at halftime Udinese took the lead against Verona with a score of 2-1, but the score was not big enough because there was still a possibility Verona could equal the score to 2-2.
1 additional goal in the second half made sure Fiorentia secured 3 points at home. No matter how hard Salernitana tried to score a goal to reduce the deficit, they couldn't do it. They only managed 1 attempt on target out of 11.
This result keeps them off the bottom of the table and there to stay. Although Cagliari and Verona, the clubs above them with a very close collection of points, could not win, they also followed in the footsteps of these 2 clubs.

Meanwhile, Juventus managed to claim Inter Milan's position after they won against Monza, yes at least they are at the top of the standings until we see the results of Inter Milan's match against Napoli.
1900  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: December 03, 2023, 04:04:39 PM
Hoffenheim continues to get bad results in every match and yesterday they just lost at home to Gladbach. I think Hoffenheim is starting to falter because in the last 5 matches they were only able to get 1 win and this is very different from the results obtained at the start of the season. The defeat against Gladbach at first I didn't expect it to happen, but at least they were able to hold on to the draw. But it is true that Gladbach also has things to win and an additional 3 points is very meaningful for them to continue to advance to a better place. Well, I'm pretty sure Hoffenheim will still slump next week and they have to be aware of that.
Actually the match was quite balanced and even actually Hoffeinheim had more chances than Gladbach, but they had to accept this defeat. This defeat extends their negative record in the last 5 matches, out of 5 matches they can only win 1 match, 2 draws and 2 defeats including their defeat this week.
They have serious problems in the defense sector, and they must be able to fix that as soon as possible, because otherwise they will always receive unsatisfactory results such as draws, or even defeats.
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