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1521  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Low cost but effective solutions to gambling addiction on: December 18, 2023, 01:10:39 PM
No gambler will say publicly about his defeat and the majority of gamblers will only talk about the wins they have had.
When there is gambler who actually says his defeat it means it was big defeat and he talks about it to ask for suggestions and advice regarding his defeat.
Moreover, when gambler tells of his defeat, he will definitely only be called stupid gambler because he lost his money in betting, things like this will always happen in social environment.
Maybe there are several people who will give advice and direction to stop or reduce the intensity of the gambling they do and of course there are still very few people who care like this out there.

Most gamblers, after getting their winning, don't immediately withdraw it but try to make another win by betting more, only in the end they don't get the winning but all the winning money runs out without any remaining.
And I agree that money will be very valuable but this is why many gamblers try to gain more from gambling and try to recover when they suffer losses.
This attitude is what most gamblers always do and indeed the best step is to have time and financial limits.

But about gambling addicts they can't set limits and they can't set time for when to play and stop, even they can't manage their finances well.
If you think about it logically, gambling addict becomes person who really experiences big losses financially, even though psychologically they also experience pressure.
But in terms of financial calculations, gambling addict bets without having any limits.
They will lose any amount of money just for gambling and when they realize it is all gone and they have to spend some money back to pay professional who can help cure them of the problem of gambling addiction.
This kind of understanding must be given to novice gamblers so that they can be careful and avoid excessive gambling activities that can cause addiction.
Society shuns gambling losses, yet they must be acknowledged. Gamblers who acknowledge defeat seek advice because it's a major loss. This disclosure deserves understanding and advice, not mockery. Why? Because acknowledging a problem is the first step to fixing it. Gamblers seek losses because they think a large victory is coming. But this loop deepens the financial abyss.

Addiction is a major issue. Gamblers lose sight of time and money constraints. Gambling over their means causes financial and mental stress. New gamblers must be warned of these hazards. Prevention of excessive gambling and addiction requires awareness. We must encourage safe gaming and help those in need. Not just financial health, but total well-being.

Honestly, I rarely see some gamblers who want to be honest and admit how much they lost, which of course makes them suffer, especially in terms of their finances which are getting worse, it takes courage and mentality to admit it to others, because of course I think it is not uncommon for some other people to say "consistent deposits without any withdrawals" isn't that a mockery? of course, and that's what makes it difficult for gamblers to admit everything to others or especially some of their close friends, they avoid ridicule that can make them quite embarrassed, even though on the other hand it is actually a pretty good confession, as you said that they are willing to admit all of that is none other than because they need some advice from others who might be useful to improve the situation with some suggestions that they can consider.

Yes it is the main problem that is at the peak of the impact of gambling, it is not easy to get through every time if you are already lost in the cycle of addiction, mental stress and psychological disorders are already a part that you will always feel, the worsening of finances is the main problem that certainly makes you feel a lot of pressure like that, it is not uncommon to end up stress/depression because it is not strong with all the pressure in that position. Of course, I never get tired of reminding gamblers especially newbies who just come, because lately I see more who bring unreasonable goals from most of those who come.
1522  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Success or Fail? - Talking about Gambling as a major income on: December 18, 2023, 12:52:53 PM

Many gamblers had tried this means but it doesn't ended well so why are we are going to think that it will works for us. Gambling is not a job so we should not see it as a major means of survival. We can earn and make money from gambling but we also have to be prepared and take proper precautions so that we don't end up lose more that what we plan earning from the market.

We need to get multiple jobs not just one job for us to be relevant in the gambling industry. We can gamble today and make loses and we can also gamble and make profits, loses and profits are opposite and one may approach us today and the other approach us tomorrow. We need to get prepared of the outcome between the two.

That's right, we have to have a real job on land, because that's what will really make us money every month and can meet our daily needs, and if you want to gamble, just think of it as luck if we win it will increase our income. but remain aware that the results of gambling will sometimes be detrimental to us and we should not expect too much and just play sensibly. And I agree with you that we have to be prepared for the results we will get in gambling, whether we lose or win it will definitely happen, if we can accept it then we won't be too stressed to think about it.

Exactly my friend, it's true and what you said is a good statement for a more advisable approach to gambling, it's better to look for sure things like what you mentioned the main job that can guarantee to earn and not expect anything at all on gambling, it's a very good mindset but unfortunately there are still quite a lot of people who are lost in an unreasonable mindset where they always believe and put high hopes on gambling, which in the end instead of earning income but the opposite happens, they lose a lot of money instead.

Gambling is nothing more than a game of probability which means there is absolutely no certainty involved there and you will really know whether you will win or lose when the session you are doing is over, if you win it means you are lucky and if you lose it means that is the risk that must be accepted. But there are still many irresponsible gamblers who certainly cannot accept the results of their defeat even though on the other hand everything is clear that if there is a chance to win it means there is a risk of losing too, but strangely they are very selfish by only wanting to win but not willing to lose, if you have that kind of mindset then I hope you will quickly realize and change your mindset, after all this is gambling which means there is no certainty.
1523  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you have a "gambling problem" which you can sometimes control for years? on: December 18, 2023, 12:06:11 PM
A long time ago, I tried gambling, but after losing several times and losing a significant amount of money, I gave up. I see my friends now betting on football matches, but I don't know much about football, and even with full consciousness, I won't take any risks. Whenever I'm tempted to get involved in something like this, I think about the kids I could just give a couple of toys to instead of throwing money away. And you will be surprised; it works. Give others a little joy; dopamine will be your constant friend.

Although the word surrender is synonymous with a weak soul but if you do it on gambling I think it's a very good decision, there are no regulations that regulate and require anyone to engage in gambling and the activity is only for those who want to fill their leisure time when bored, so if you really feel that the activity causes a lot of problems especially on your finances then obviously quitting is better if you can, but no problem even if it's difficult they can also do it slowly.

I think you have a good mindset by always thinking of your children when the temptation of gambling enters your mind, but your children seem to have become a strong defense for you to remain firm and not easily seduced by anything, especially getting involved in risk taking. Allocating money for other needs whether it is for children's snacks or kitchen needs is better than you put it on something that has no certainty for reciprocity, so it doesn't matter because everyone has the right and freedom of choice.
1524  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: December 18, 2023, 08:47:02 AM
Last season not really excited drawing champion league match with many strong team like Manchester City, Bayern Munich and Real Madrid have to face each other before final stage. I hope few hours later with drawing get balance between strong teams not have to face early on quarter final and excited will be in semifinal or final round. I agree with your opinion, if strong teams have to face on quarter final phase will make boring final stage because not strong teams will play in the final.
I hope between Real Madrid and Manchester City will not face until semifinal phase and both teams get draw will play until final stage if can win from knock out round until semifinal phase.
I think everyone also hopes for something like that. We hope that the strong teams will not meet early because the atmosphere will be less exciting. If you look at the runners up this season, PSG, Inter and PSV are among the strong teams that will definitely meet a strong team from the group winners. I don't know if the rules have changed, but as far as I know, each pool is filled with the champion from each group and the other pool is filled with the runner up from each group.
It would be a bit disappointing if the leading clubs had to face each other before the final or at least the semifinals, and it happened last season. In the travel table Manchester City are bigger than Inter Milan who are their opponents in the final. If I'm not mistaken, the Serie A clubs had to beat each other and in the end it was Inter Milan who made it to the final, and to be honest last season I didn't expect Inter Milan to be in the final, because last season they weren't good enough and they were inconsistent. Although they did put up a good fight in the final, it wasn't a great climax for me.
1525  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 18, 2023, 08:28:04 AM
I think Man United will lose. But this draw was beyond my expectation, Onana and their defense were quite strong. Liverpool were very dominating, they attempted kicks 34 times and 8 led to goal. Man United play more neatly, they are reactive by making a lot of people in their own area. They seem to rely on counterattacks. This proved they only had 1 kick on goal.
Ambarat also performed well, he worked hard as a defensive midfielder. Onana is also very good 8 saves. In this match Man United did not look panicked in possession of the ball. Plus Liverpool's finishing was poor today.


Either it's bad luck for me or something else, because when I bet on Manchester United they are a bad club and it's easy to lose goals, but when I bet on the opponents they are going to face, like Liverpool for example, they can withstand at least every attack that comes at them, and you know what happened to my bet in this match.
It's quite strange to see them play every week, sometimes they're bad, very bad, good and very good. I see decent odds for me to bet on Liverpool and I'm very confident in what I'm doing. In the first half there were no goals scored, but I saw a very good dominance from Liverpool. In the second half I thought at least Liverpool had a chance to score one goal. But until 90 and into stoppage time the goal I was waiting for didn't come. I'm disappointed not because I lost the gamble, but because I can't get over the unpredictability of Manchester United's play.
1526  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: December 18, 2023, 08:09:50 AM
Barcelona will take a very long time to recover their financial condition, unless they get a large injection of funds, such as a sultan who wants to buy Barcelona. But if they have to rely on something small from their current income, of course it will take a very long time to be able to really recover their finances.
Yes, that was their mistake in the past, but I hope they don't dwell too much on it, because it's already happened and there's no turning back.

Joan Laporta said before he was elected president that he would improve the club's economy, but he failed to do so. Moreover, Messi was at Barcelona at the time and his salary was a matter of debate. At the end of the last two years, Barcelona's debts have not changed. If an Arab sheik really buys this club, maybe their debts will end.
Anyone can say that if they're elected to the top job then they'll do things that will make the club's situation better, it sounds like the kind of sweet promises that people always make when campaigning. Because we now see what the reality is, they are still struggling with debt which in turn makes it difficult for them to be able to stabilize the club.
Whether we like it or not, money is one of the factors that will sustain the club, which is why business and football cannot be separated from each other, because the two things will be related to each other.


Messi was willing to take a pay cut and has said so on a number of occasions if memory serves me correctly. Moreover, he didn't want to move to Barcelona and moved to America so that Barcelona wouldn't sack anyone and cut players' wages to sign him. If the Arabs buy the club, the debts will of course gradually disappear
That is the impact that will occur when a club is too favoring its players. Indeed, I will not deny that Messi made a huge contribution to Barcelona during his time in the Blaugrana uniform, but they also have to consider their situation in the future. I don't blame Messi, because it was the club who made the decision, but the decisions they made in fact became a problem later on. And not only that, in the end they also had to lose Messi because they needed money and from selling Messi we know they got a lot of money.
Some time ago there were also rumors that they wanted to buy Messi again, but that didn't make sense with their financial situation like that.
1527  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: December 18, 2023, 07:53:31 AM
It's indeed an exciting and competitive scenario in the Italian League, with Inter Milan demonstrating their determination to reclaim the top spot. Every match counts for Inter, and their consistent point collection is a positive sign. The upcoming clash with Juventus in February could be a decisive moment that may shape the title race.
This week is an advantage for Inter Milan because at the same time their competitors cannot win in week 16 matches, yes Juventus can only draw when they travel to Genoa headquarters. Inter Milan did not miss the opportunity to be able to widen their points gap by winning this week. With the results of this week's matches, the difference in points between Inter Milan and Juventus is now 4 points. Inter Milan actually got a tight resistance from Lazio, because Lazio itself could almost keep up with the game from Inter Milan, but it seemed that luck was not in favor of Lazio because Inter Milan was more effective in attacking so that it could produce 2 goals to ensure 3 points were brought home by Inter Milan.
1528  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: December 18, 2023, 07:38:42 AM
Girona Vs Alaves
Girona are certainly showing their strength with great performances in La Liga this season. Their latest win against Barcelona is a testament to their quality. Looks like they will continue their great run. Although Girona have played one less match and have a one-point gap with Real Madrid, Girona can go to the top of the points table in today's match. Alaves, on the other hand, haven't had the best start to their season, but have shown signs of improvement in recent weeks. But facing Girona will be a tough challenge for them. Girona are clear favorites for me in today's matchup. I think Girona can beat Alaves  win 3-1.
Girona have a good chance of extending their winning record in this match, Alaves are not a big or strong club although we can't underestimate them. But still with what Girona are showing at the moment, it gives an idea of how the match will go later. On the other hand Alaves must realize that the opponent they will face this time is a strong club that is fighting for their position in the tight competition in the top flight.
I also predict that Girona will most likely be able to win this match. Yes they have the ability to do so, especially since they will play the match at their own headquarters. Now they also have a task that will spur them on after Real Madrid who played earlier this week can win their match, Girona must win if they want to return to the top of the table.
1529  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling should be play with care on: December 18, 2023, 01:25:49 AM

I think the difficulty of making money is one of the reasons why we have to be careful in gambling, and the real concept in gambling is that casinos will drain  the money we have if we take a careless approach, which is why more of them suffer losses in The appeal of making money, none other than I think one reasonable reason is because the difficulty of making money makes them think that gambling can give them a  win or simply that this is a good place to make money, even though the reality is far from what they imagine.

Therefore, we must have a proper understanding of gambling so that we do not suffer the same fate as those who are misguided and end up getting lost in the cycle of losing to winning. That's true, sometimes even if you come with the intention of just looking for fun, it cannot be denied that defeat will definitely happen, so as much as possible we must be able to minimize everything, limit hopes and expectations, set a small budget and limit the time involved. I think those who spend a lot of money don't mean they don't care about the amount they lose but it seems like they consider it like a sacrifice for a bigger win.


There is a deeper issue. Gambling is a desperate attempt to escape financial misery for some. This misconception that gaming may solve financial problems must be addressed. Society must prevent people from believing they've won a life-changing prize when seeking entertainment. A healthier, more informed approach to gaming requires education and responsible gambling.

It is interesting and a real fact that most people, especially those who have medium or even below average finances, usually always feel the problem of pressure due to lack of strength in terms of money, so it is not strange if in such situations it comes out mindsets and ideas that do not make sense, justify all means, act out of control to get money, as you said and this is  one of the actions that can be said to be very careless in the context of running away from misery. The triumphs that some people see seem so tantalizing, like they've found an effective way to improve their financial situation and they assume that "I should try it".

Misunderstanding and lack of insight are the main causes of such people going astray, not only in gambling but also in some other things that also seem to look easy to produce but have no certainty and there is only a high level of risk. I think the emphasis on awareness should be emphasized more by the community, because obviously with qualified awareness I think it is less likely for them to act carelessly in choosing something, it will be able to encourage them to realize that it is  something that does not make sense if victory is easily achieved, meaning that there is something behind it, which is an even greater risk. It can be used as an indication and suspicion if they are able to think realistically and rationally.
1530  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Reckless gambling starts after a win round. on: December 18, 2023, 01:03:08 AM

That is a situation where their mental and psychological will be played, isn't winning something that gamblers always want? of course, but do you know what impact there will be on your mindset after you experience such a situation? I think healthy people and always think realistically and address gambling will not go wrong even if they get an extraordinary sensation from the situation of winning with large amounts, but unfortunately most gamblers experience a change in mindset and point of view when they have experienced such situations and conditions.

Usually they will assume that "this seems like a good place to earn" and after that winning is not the end of the world, because of the change in mindset and increased hopes and higher expectations they will usually apply greed by hoping to get a much larger amount because they feel that luck is still there even though it is completely unknown. In my opinion, such gamblers will never stop especially after winning, usually they will stop after running out of ways and money, simply put, losing is curious and winning is addictive, that's what they are.
Your gambler psychology observation is right. Gambling is about the joy of beating the odds, not just winning money. While thrilling, this feeling might distort reality. Casino winners can fall into a cognitive trap, thinking they've found a profitable path. Dangerous perception skews reasonable judgment.

Second, post-victory mindset change is crucial. The move from gambling as entertainment to income is risky. Why? This shift encourages greed and distorts risk assessment. Gamblers want bigger rewards, ignoring rising hazards.

Winning is obviously addictive. The "curious losing" and "addictive winning" cycle is dangerous. Problem gambling is fueled by an inability to quit and a constant search of the next 'high'. This involves both individual willpower and a society adjustment in gambling perception and regulation.

Yes, it should be excitement that defeats the odds and not excitement that is defeated by the odds, because if that happens or if you have a mindset like that then obviously all you think about is how to make the odds into a reality that you always wanted, but isn't gambling just a place for fun? Of course, and for those who take the odds too seriously then usually  only suffer a lot of defeat, we must understand that it is nothing more than a "chance" which means it is still uncertain and there is no guarantee at all to materialize especially according to what you expect.

With the success of winning, it is clear that not a few gamblers think as you say that they think and assume that they have found the right way to conquer gambling by bringing home the winnings, without realizing that there are other things, especially the greater impact that they will suffer in the long run. Basically any situation that occurs in gambling will be very likely to change a person's mindset and beliefs, and what is more likely is to turn fun gambling into an activity to earn, which will they choose between real fun without significant risk or make a place to earn with a much higher level of risk? usually more people choose point  number two in this case, and that is the reason why many suffer large losses. There are many dangers waiting for us and that's why it's always important to be firmly in control and not overdo it.
1531  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: December 17, 2023, 03:35:50 PM
It's nothing new when Barcelona have a player in mind but they struggle to really bring him in. Their problem has always been the same in recent seasons, which is related to their finances which are still not stable until now. They even have to think about finding ways to bring in players, one of which is by recruiting players who are without a club so they can bring them in for free.
Regarding the young players they are after, there are actually many young players who want to join Barcelona and those young players have great potential to become shining players in the future. But again they can't do it at will, because there are many considerations that they have to think carefully, especially if it has to do with finances. Keep in mind, that many teams have gone bankrupt because of their increasingly difficult financial problems.

Barcelona just did not make good financial decisions in the past, and that is just coming back to haunt them right now. Of course, they are not going to be able to do well now financially. Because they did not make good financial decisions in the past. They were probably the only club who was giving so much money as a salary to their players. And now they are just praying for their mistake. Honestly giving that type of money to a bunch of really old players (except for Lionel Messi) was definitely a bad decision for them. now I think they are just simply paying the price. The only thing that seems not okay is that the current coach is paying the price for the trouble that was made by some other coach.
Barcelona will take a very long time to recover their financial condition, unless they get a large injection of funds, such as a sultan who wants to buy Barcelona. But if they have to rely on something small from their current income, of course it will take a very long time to be able to really recover their finances.
Yes, that was their mistake in the past, but I hope they don't dwell too much on it, because it's already happened and there's no turning back.
The steps they have taken now are better, and they try to overcome their weaknesses in several ways they have done, one of which is by recruiting players for free. Xavi does have to think hard about this, because even though it was their mistake in the past, the current coach also feels the impact.
1532  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: December 17, 2023, 02:36:20 PM
Lewandowski was a known legendary finisher in Bayern Munich when he was playing there and now even after leaving Bayern Munich for Barcelona, still Lewandowski is performing well enough. Currently, in Barcelona Lewandowski has an effective role in this team and I think even if they decide to sell Lewandowski to the Saudi team, Barcelona will have a problem finding an alternative player to take his place in the team.
However, for any player, there is a high chance to finish their career in the Saudi teams the huge money they usually offer to players like Salah and Lewandowski.

If the main goal for Barcelona is money, then selling Lewandowski to an Arab club is a good option, as they will certainly get a lot of money from the sale of this player. But they have to consider everything before they decide on that, one of which is what you said about his potential replacement who can replace his role well. It's difficult to find a player who has good ability in the opposing defense, and even some clubs now have that problem. Would they be willing to risk their squad if they decided to sell Lewandowski? That risk would not only affect their La Liga campaign, but also the bigger competitions such as the Champions League. They have to consider all of that.
1533  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: December 17, 2023, 02:14:33 PM
Sevilla had a terrible group stage. It was much worse this time compared to the previous season which led them to finish the group in the 4th position. I was wondering what they were going to do in the last match which was critical for them and they had to win for the Europa League ticket. But they failed and even lost the match.  Sad

This season Sevilla are terrible not only in the Champions League but also the La Liga. Diego Alonso has just got sacked after the 3-0 home loss against Getafe. I wonder what will happen to this team from now on.
Sevilla is one of three teams that failed to win a single win in the Champions League group stage. This is very scary because the other teams that did not achieve a single win were Red Star and Union Berlin, which could be called mediocre teams. Actually I hope Sevilla can appear in the UEFA European League because they have an impressive record there. But after seeing their ranking in the league I think Sevilla this season is really ruined and does not deserve to qualify for the UEFA European League. Last season they achieved 13 wins at the end of the season. And this season they only achieved 2 wins from 16 matches.
Actually, Sevilla's failure in the Champions League was predictable by looking at their performance in La Liga. In La Liga alone they have only recorded 2 wins from the 16 matches they have played, so I'm not too surprised when in the Champions League they didn't even win once.
Sevilla's decline is obvious, so it's not unusual for them not to be able to place at least in the Europa League this season. The managemen must totally evaluate the team, as they are also in danger of being relegated this season. They are 16th with 13 points, the same points that 18th-placed Cadiz have. That's certainly not good for a club that is known to be good in the Europa League, and they are even the club that has won the most titles there.
1534  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: December 17, 2023, 01:59:57 PM


This week, we will see league leaders Leverkusen take on Frankfurt. Frankfurt itself is not a club that can be underestimated, they are a club that can provide surprises that were not expected before. So Leverkusen must be very careful in this match, if they still want to be at the top of the standings.
Facing Eintracht Frankfurt this weekend, a top game to watch because the Frankfurt in question smashed Bayern Munich 5-1 and they can go ahead to be the first club to break the unbeaten run of the team standing first. Leverkusen can be competitive enough and at the end of the day, they don't qualify for significant Champs of the Bundesliga, these events do carried our executives. In everything they do, Xabi Alonso and his squad should make sure everything play out so smoothly and nothing wrong should happen to the club, because all eyes are on them. Don't be in a hurry to forget that Bayer Leverkusen are unbeaten this season and they're not frightened by the opponents they face in every game.
Yes Bayern Munich can be used as a real lesson for Leverkusen so that they do not feel the same fate as Bayern Munich felt. The way Frankfurt destroys one of the strongest clubs every season, it gives a chance that maybe Frankfurt will be able to do the same to Leverkusen in this match. Xabi Alonso must have learned from the match data how Frankfurt can beat Bayern Munich, and that they can anticipate in this match.
Leverkusen have the upper hand, as they are now the only unbeaten club, even in the Europa League with a clean sweep of 6 matches with a win.
But concerns arise when in the last 2 matches they played, Leverkusen won 2 draws, it gave a gap to Frankfurt.
1535  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: December 17, 2023, 01:43:50 PM
Lens struggled to get a win in the first 5 weeks, but they managed to pick themselves up and they haven't lost in the league for 11 weeks, a statistic that reminds me of last season again.Lens will continue on their way in the Europa League even if they are eliminated from the Champions League group.The opponents they will face here are easier and more competitive teams for them, so they can focus a little more on the league. Lens, who are currently 5th in the league, will at least want to finish in the top 3 of the league.The next week they will go to Nice, one of the form teams of the league, and this will be a very important match for them.The next week they will play PSG, so the better these 2 weeks go for them, the better their chances of finishing the league in a better place.

Lens is playing pretty well right now. And at this moment I do not think they have to worry about too much.  As you said they have been winning pretty consistently throughout the last few matches and haven't lost since what seems to be an eternity. So they are definitely doing well. Probably better than expected. I don't know how worried they are about the Europa League. But I believe they should give more importance to Ligue 1. Because I think it is still going to be hard for them to get into the top 3 positions because the teams above are performing well and have good point advantage. And Lens has 1 match in hand.
They can show a pretty good resurgence after they had a very difficult situation at the beginning of the season. Now they can slowly improve their rankings and are in 6th place. It seems like they found a weak point where they were the source of problems at the start of this season. They can improve in terms of goal productivity although not really very good, but it is enough to be able to get positive results from the matches they play. Although their defense is not really solid, there is an improvement and that is good as a progress. The truth is that a club doesn't have to be very good right away, because it's very difficult. Lens can show that slowly they can also do better in every match, and their progress is visible from match to match.
1536  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you take time to read the terms and conditions of casinos before registering? on: December 17, 2023, 12:29:32 PM
True, the terms and conditions provided by casinos especially those based online are usually very long, kind of like a boring newspaper, and I think one of the things that makes people lazy to read all the terms and conditions is because basically and in general usually people don't want to be regulated and they always want something instant, I don't think they don't find or have time to read it but there is no other reason than it all looks boring, they come to get involved right away and not to read some theory that they don't think is too important.

Of course, the purpose of casinos creating KYC requirements is none other than because as you mentioned, casinos want to be sure of what exactly the purpose of the gamblers who come, if they are just to gamble then no problem but on the other hand it is always unpredictable that there must also be those who intend to make casinos a place to launder money, but on the other hand not many gamblers want to do it on the basis of privacy which is their main reason, even though it is all also for the safety and comfort of gamblers during their involvement.
1537  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you have a "gambling problem" which you can sometimes control for years? on: December 17, 2023, 12:09:07 PM

(Second question) Either way, when it's time to stop, how exactly do you do it? (For example) Change other habits, go new places, exercise more, stop drinking, simply "swear off" gambling... How exactly do you stop? Thank you.
If you know your gambling addiction has started again, the best is to just quit gambling. Do not gamble again. Fill your life with other things that you can think of and do not gamble again at all.

It is good to quit before it is too late.

That's what should be done, but all of that is not as easy as turning the palm of the hand to refuse ourselves to return to the right path and stop for good things, although basically it is very good advice but unfortunately most of the gamblers are difficult to do so, they have a weak mentality and defense to ignore some of the temptations that come and enter their minds.

In my opinion, what they should do first is to re-imagine past events where the activity really only worsened their situation and living conditions, especially in financial matters which made them maybe barely able to make ends meet, sometimes I think awareness has a very important role in terms of considering and choosing something better, and with a fairly good level of awareness then I think it will not be too difficult to reject and ignore all the temptations that seem to tell them to return to gambling. True, the sooner the better and prevention is better than cure.
1538  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling and Behavioral Change!!! on: December 17, 2023, 11:48:57 AM
Does any of feel behavioral change in you based on the win/loss in gambling. Myself had experienced it, and personally I used to be happy and I used to be polite with my family members and kid whenever I am on profit. On the day of losing it changes exactly in the opposite way, even for simple things I get much anger. Particularly while giving food to kid patience is must. On winning days I let him take his own time and eat. On the losing days I used to shout at him. I'm addicted, and I want fellow gamblers to make a self analysis at regular interval and be on the safer side.

Most of the gamblers actually experience something like that because you have lost in gambling, if you know that your behavior is like that when you lose in gambling, you should fix it because this is bad behavior. You can't always be like that every time you go home. Learn how to control your emotions, and only gamble as much as you can afford to lose so your head doesn't get hot when you lose. You should enjoy it.

Yes, you said it right, better to cope up with this kind of attitude before playing again, or if you already noticing this kind of changes you should find the best way to recover and reset everything back to normal, I guess changing in mood while betting is a natural reaction as human always have that after effect in terms of emotion.

But, it's still important that you know how to control that and make sure that you have all the possible option not to continue acting like that to prevent pushing your love ones away from you.

The level of hope and expectations that are too high makes it difficult for them to think realistically in terms of considering for a change for the better, they are aware and know that it is the best thing to do but the problem is that it is not easy for them to fight emotions when the situation is really hot due to defeat and loss of money which for them means a lot. I think the first thing that should be changed is in terms of understanding the gambling itself, do not let them think that gambling is a way to make money because there is always no certainty, the second is to bet with an amount that can be accounted for to lose.

I think with the two things above at least it will not make them too upset and disappointed if they really lose again. And also I think self-control and some limits will not be too difficult to do if indeed they have a good understanding and awareness, because usually something that cannot be controlled starts from emotions that cannot be restrained, so by putting a small budget and reducing expectations then I think it will not be too difficult to do.
1539  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling should be play with care on: December 17, 2023, 11:20:23 AM
Imo everything where money are involved must be done with care. Otherwise they will turn into sand and will slide awat through your fingers. Even if gambling for fun. Careless money management decreases fun time. Even rich should have careless attitude towards money. Some might say that I am old, greedy or scrooge, but I feel annoyed every time I see someone spend money like they dont care all. Perhaps I just know how sometimes it is hard to earn Smiley

I think the difficulty of making money is one of the reasons why we have to be careful in gambling, and the real concept in gambling is that casinos will drain  the money we have if we take a careless approach, which is why more of them suffer losses in The appeal of making money, none other than I think one reasonable reason is because the difficulty of making money makes them think that gambling can give them a  win or simply that this is a good place to make money, even though the reality is far from what they imagine.

Therefore, we must have a proper understanding of gambling so that we do not suffer the same fate as those who are misguided and end up getting lost in the cycle of losing to winning. That's true, sometimes even if you come with the intention of just looking for fun, it cannot be denied that defeat will definitely happen, so as much as possible we must be able to minimize everything, limit hopes and expectations, set a small budget and limit the time involved. I think those who spend a lot of money don't mean they don't care about the amount they lose but it seems like they consider it like a sacrifice for a bigger win.
1540  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Reckless gambling starts after a win round. on: December 17, 2023, 10:56:58 AM
Obviously, gambling is a business; gambling only becomes a way for us to become addicted to it. But gambling itself was not the main reason; instead, the main reason was that we were driven by greed to become addicted to gambling because we experienced winning by playing gambling on the gambling platform.

There are still many gamblers who use casinos to gamble, but they do not become addicted to gambling or develop an addiction to it because they know how to limit themselves from gambling. In short, they are responsible gamblers.

Right, and they would laugh after reading "Reckless gambling starts after a win round". What? After a winning round they collect their winnings and cash out. What kind of a greedy person one must be to start gambling recklessly after a win round? When are you going to stop then, after a losing round?

That is a situation where their mental and psychological will be played, isn't winning something that gamblers always want? of course, but do you know what impact there will be on your mindset after you experience such a situation? I think healthy people and always think realistically and address gambling will not go wrong even if they get an extraordinary sensation from the situation of winning with large amounts, but unfortunately most gamblers experience a change in mindset and point of view when they have experienced such situations and conditions.

Usually they will assume that "this seems like a good place to earn" and after that winning is not the end of the world, because of the change in mindset and increased hopes and higher expectations they will usually apply greed by hoping to get a much larger amount because they feel that luck is still there even though it is completely unknown. In my opinion, such gamblers will never stop especially after winning, usually they will stop after running out of ways and money, simply put, losing is curious and winning is addictive, that's what they are.
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