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1581  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 14, 2023, 03:05:32 PM
Lol I actually confused who's Harry Potter which people are discussing, it turns out "Graham Potter".

This is really a bad news, if Potter will really join Manchester United, we can expect Manchester United will relegated and play in second league. Cheesy

It's better to have Ten Hag than Potter, but it's better to sack Ten Hag for the recent worst result. Grin
But if he can use his magic, then it might be able to get Manchester United back on their feet quickly. Lol
He failed when he coached Chelsea, from the statistics during his time at Chelsea, he led 31 matches of which he won 12, drew 8 and lost 11. I don't know what Manchester United have in mind if they really cooperate with him. Yes maybe he will be able to do different things and be better than what he did at Chelsea, but still it has a very big risk.
We also see a coach from his statistics, don't we? yes at least we see the last statistics with the club he coached. I think there are still many coaches who are better than Grahaam Potter.
1582  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: December 14, 2023, 02:50:49 PM
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The ball is in the court of Victor, he might decide to extend his contract or leave for another club. He recently stated that he has put his issues with Napoli behind him and that he has forgiven them for the insult he received on their social media platform. If he is still happy in Italy, I think he would sign a new deal, otherwise, he might consider leaving because many clubs can give him a more lucrative contract than what he would be offered by Napoli.
Is Victor Osimehn happy in Italy? If you ask me I would say Last season he was so happy but i can’t say the same this season, Napoli’s performance has dropped drastically and it has affected his performance as well as Kvaraschehlia’s and the scandal that happened also contributed a lot to all this. He might have forgiven then but how certain are we that they won’t repeat the same thing when things turn out bad again in the future. When he makes his decision we will know if he is happy in Italy and if he still wants to stay and fight for the club. The offer is very tempting but i hope he makes the right decision for himself
I think leaving is the best option rather than him staying at Napoli, the problem he's facing is really affecting his performance and I agree with you that maybe the same thing will happen again next time, I don't want that but it might happen.
He's still young to be able to make his career even better and I think there are still many big clubs interested in him. He's forgiving, but he can't hide his anger or his discomfort so his performance has dropped.
He must consider what is best for him, don't let there be pressure from other parties when he makes a decision, because it will greatly affect the course of his career.
1583  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: December 14, 2023, 02:35:10 PM
I think it is too early to know that Union Barley performance is back. They only won there first match, and the game that was won was at home, so I think they just try their best to avoid being beat at home. That is why they try all they can to score goals. However, I think we should wait and see some other games that they will play. If they are able to perform the same way, then we can say they are getting their performance back. Even in their upcoming match with Bochum, I can say their performance is back. If they do well, I want them to perform as they did in their last match, like 3 games from there.
Seems Union Berlin have return back to quit well performance in domestic league, after eliminating in Champion League they will focus how to defend their position in Bundesliga and out from relegated zone. Winning against Borussia Mönchengladbach last match become capital for Union Berlin focus upcoming match and try to get three points against VfL Bochum. Four matches later, Union Berlin will face team with potential to get three points against Bochum, FC Koln, SC Freiburg and Mainz before facing Bayern Munich with less possibility three points achievement.
The current position, Union Berlin is not far enough points away from the teams in mid-table positions and it would be an advantage for Union Berlin if it is able to appear consistent and get three points every match, it is possible to return to 8th position or even the Europe League spot position.
Union Berlin still have to improve their performance if they want to stay away from the relegation zone. Their elimination in the Champions League has 2 different sides, I mean on the one hand they must be disappointed because they cannot go further in the Champions League this season, but on the other hand they can focus on the Bundesliga to be able to improve their position in the standings which has experienced a very significant setback.

The upcoming match is an advantage for them because they will face an opponent who is not too strong. Despite having the status of a guest team, but with quality that is not much different, they can take advantage of it, even if we look at the composition of players owned by Bochum, actually Union Berlin has a better composition of players than the host.
1584  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: December 14, 2023, 02:13:46 PM
After the first half and Newcastle's dominance, I didn't expect Milan to be able to make a comeback in the second half... But Newcastle were unlucky and the European season is over for them... Maybe they could have been lucky if they had a different group... Hopefully I can see them in the Champions League again next season...

I think they fought very well in the group, The group was the most difficult group in the Champions League. One team was going to be eliminated and that was Newcastle. They can do better next year.
It is indeed a shame that Newcastle was able to provide a good performance in the UCL against PSG but at the decisive moment Newcastle was faced with the problem of player injuries which were detrimental and gave Milan a big opportunity in the second half. At least what Newcastle has done this season is more than enough. Hopefully we can still see it again because for Newcastle this is just the first step to go further and teach important lessons. In the end group F was represented by Dortmund and PSG who advanced to the round of 16. It was still quite tough and what is  certain is that PSG and Dortmund did not want to play Bayern or Man City.
Despite their elimination in the Champions League this season and not being able to continue at least to the Europa League, but I really appreciate their performance in providing competition to clubs that are more experienced than them. Even if they were knocked out of their last match in the group stage which was the match that decided their fate, it was a great achievement for a club like them.
They are in a very tough group in the Champions League, and we already knew that after the group draw came out. Some of us also predicted that they would not be able to compete, because the opponents in the group they are in are big clubs and also very experienced in the Chamions League.
1585  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: December 14, 2023, 01:55:03 PM
In the SPL's provisional top scorers list this season, Cristiano Ronaldo is the leading scorer with 16 goals to his name, followed by Aleksandar Mitrović with 14, Georges-Kévin N'Koudou with 13 and Talisca with 10. There are 2 Al Nassr players who can be productive this season and unfortunately they are not accompanied by a strong defense so they still have some problems when facing clubs that have a good front line.

Cristiano Ronaldo is also on the list of top assist scorers with 8 assists, the same number as Alvaro Medran. With his age, it is a great achievement that he can show and it is extraordinary.
1586  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can somebody make a successful career in gambling on: December 14, 2023, 01:36:44 PM
If your goal is to have a successful career in gambling I think it's too dangerous, I think and I hope you can do some consideration first before finally making a decision, I will not care about any reason that justifies your goal, because after all this is just a game of probability and nothing more than that.

So maybe it's too impossible if you have the idea of having a successful career in gambling if you really want to have a successful career then in my opinion it makes more sense if you become a bookie yourself or I mean having your own casino then it will make more sense because basically anyway the house will always win. So the point is I hope you or whoever it is to be able to think more realistically and rationally before finally deciding something that of course can make you finally regret it.
1587  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey on: December 14, 2023, 01:16:21 PM
It's a good idea if someone wants to get rid of their addiction to consult a professional. Usually this psychiatrist will advise whether a person should reduce the intensity of their gambling slowly or cut ties with it immediately.
But I think if a person wants to get away from his gambling addiction there is no other way than to cut ties with it completely. Because if a person decides to end their addiction straight away, and learns to restrain themselves, they will be able to control themselves better in the future. The problem of withdrawal symptoms is normal, you can stop yourself from doing that or, if necessary, take sedatives.

Yup especially now that people are getting addicted in gambling quickly even those young people nowadays are experiencing addiction in playing online casinos, that's why it sounds perfect if a person is aware on what they are experiencing and comes with a solution of getting rid of it. seeking a professional help is more important when it comes to this kind of scenario especially worst cases of addiction. Medication and rehabilitation is one of the best way to exclude yourself in this kind of activity.

Online-based gambling is increasingly easy to find, especially in some social media that you have, in this problem people must be able to filter whatever they see by thinking more realistically in responding to anything that seems tempting, some people who come carelessly starting from experiments often get stuck and have difficulty finding an exit and that is the addiction zone that is always feared.

The ease of accessing online-based casinos makes a person's interest increase to get involved and bet. On the other hand, gambling addiction always cannot be fully predicted and in my opinion, lately more people have fallen into addiction without realizing it. I think the difficulty of achieving awareness makes it difficult for them to get out or at least get enlightened from some of the indications they find to improve the situation, one of the help that might be done is right as you said is to ask for help from some professionals to find some solutions that must be done when in such conditions, I think this is a pretty good suggestion for them.
1588  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: A gambler takes his own life after a loss. on: December 14, 2023, 12:40:43 PM
Question: Is there any amount lost that can make you commit suicide?

Life is priceless so there's no amount that you lose for you to commit suicide. We don't know the real score here, maybe he has another problem that is why he made that action but if really the cause is the gambling lose then sooner or later he will commit suicide. Assuming that he is still alive now because he won, maybe some other time when he loses, he will take his own life and that is what is happening to him now. He has suicidal tendencies i think and it just happen that it coincides that he lost big amount in gambling.

Hmm it seems that your statement is quite reasonable, I would not say that the full cause of someone desperate to commit suicide because of the impact of my gambling, but what is more likely is that it seems that he comes with a bad situation or means having problems in his real life and then chooses gambling to vent everything he feels, without him realizing that this is not an alternative to solving personal problems but on the contrary, precisely if you choose gambling then you will suffer many new problems. Most people should already know about the adverse effects of gambling which can make people stressed and depressed because they cannot withstand all the pressure that occurs.

Choosing gambling to vent all the problems in real life is really not recommended, but it is unfortunate that lately many people have chosen this way, experiencing a lot of losses with large amounts makes a person act out of control because of emotions that control themselves, so it's better to just look for other alternatives to calm your situation a little if you are experiencing problems in real life.
1589  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you regret also for ever knowing about gambling? on: December 14, 2023, 12:00:11 PM
To begin with, life itself is a gamble. You never know exactly where you will find and where you will lose, and you never know what step may turn out to be the last one in your life. And gambling is an opportunity, and if you use this opportunity rationally, you can make good money

That's right, basically life is also a gamble and no one will ever know what their fate will be like in the future, luck always cannot be separated from our real life. That also happens in gambling, but perhaps in gambling the relationship between luck is very significant and is often expected by most gamblers.

Yes, that's right, actually gambling is nothing more than just a game of chance, but some or even most of the gamblers don't want to accept the idea of reality, which actually happens often and has been proven. Of course, bringing a rational mindset and point of view in gambling will keep you fine because your point of view doesn't deviate from the recommended path, but as for the problem of getting a lot of money in that way, I don't think it will be too much, I mean yes You can win but with an amount that may not be too big, I believe that a rational perspective will keep you away from things you don't want.
1590  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: December 13, 2023, 04:20:03 PM
Lens managed to defeat Sevilla and finish 3rd in the group.I expected this win from Lens because we saw that they had more luck in general.Sevilla may have played better in the match but it was the hosts who played with the score in mind and managed to win. Sevilla finished the group without a win and Lens will continue their chances in the Europa League with this result.
The other match of the group ended in a draw.PSV drew with Arsenal at home.This was an expected result but I expected more goals in the match.
Lens has advanced to the Europa League playoffs by defeating Sevilla. It's a brutal ending for Sevilla, finishing at the bottom of their group. Lens, playing in Europe after a long time, they has achieved the unthinkable by securing a victory over Sevilla.

Despite a draw, Arsenal wins the group, and PSV qualifies for the Round of 16.
Dominating the attack did not allow Sevilla to win in this match, and they had to lose and at the same time ended the competition in the Champions League group stage without winning once. Lens managed to ensure themselves to be in the Europa League play offs, yes at least it's better than they have to go straight home as experienced by Sevilla.
PSV managed to secure 1 ticket and accompany Arsenal to the last 16 after they managed to draw in the last match against the top of the group. It was a tight match, but I didn't see Arsenal impressing, which is natural because they have already qualified and this match has no effect on their position in the Champoins League.
1591  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: December 13, 2023, 03:53:06 PM
In the next match I think Cagliari will have difficulty because their opponent is a pretty tough team even though Napoli have not had good results lately but Napoli's opponents are big clubs, namely Juventus and Inter Milan, I think in this match Napoli will win, especially since this match will Taking place at Napoli's home ground, Napoli will of course get the full 3 points.

Teams like Napoli still play well against small teams even when they are in their bad form. You can’t compare the two teams in terms of team quality, players and full football coordination in the field of play. Napoli have the advantage of winning this game on clean sheet and that is not something we can doubt about. Napoli are also playing from home which is a bigger advantage for them secure a win smoothly.
I still wonder whether Napoli will win or not, because their situation is also not good now and it is difficult to predict even with opponents who on paper are easy for them to beat, like Cagliari in this match. But in a match, excellence on paper will not always be a guarantee that they will also win, because there are other factors that sometimes change when the match is in progress. In terms of strength, I also think Napoli are favorites in this match, but the status of favorites will not necessarily make them win.
Cagliari themselves must have realized that Napoli this season are not as scary as last season. They will learn how they were defeated in the previous match.
1592  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: December 13, 2023, 03:05:08 PM
I read if Pochettino included 7 names in the Chelsea sale market in January. If I'm not mistaken, they include Axel Disasi and Conor Gallagher. I don't know the other 5 names. But Pochettino put the names of Toney, Osimhen and Gyokeres on his January purchase list. Indeed, at the moment Pochettino does not have the players he wants and it should be immediately facilitated by management.

Source: https://www.skysports.com/transfer/news/12691/13025497/chelsea-transfer-news-and-rumours-blues-set-to-put-several-players-up-for-sale
Will Chelsea again make major changes to their squad and will again spend a very large amount of money on it? and in return they will also make large sales of the players they have.
They can be said to have failed in recruiting players in the transfer market, and they have to pay dearly because the money they spent over the past 2 seasons is a fantastic amount. with the fantastic amount of money they spent, they still haven't shown the desired game.
I don't understand their movements, because they failed and they should be able to change their strategy in strengthening the squad, one of which is by regenerating for example. It's not a guarantee and it's certainly a very high risk too, but they should at least try that way.
1593  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 13, 2023, 02:49:42 PM
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It will be hard for Manchester City to repeat what they did in the Premier League last season because Kevin De Bruyne will be with the Manchester City squad for the long term and it is affecting Manchester City's performance. Liverpool is the real threat to Manchester City this season, Liverpool will want to be at the top of the Premier League till the season ends.
Kevin De Bruyne will probably be back by January next year so we shall see how that's going to change their form. Man City is still looking good despite his absence and I doubt they will drop further since they have "easy" matches for the rest of December. Their rivals like Liverpool will still have to face Man United and Arsenal so I expect Man City to close the gap or even take the lead by the end of the year.
They still performed well, but we can see the difference when they don't have an attacking creator like KDB, so I can't help but say that it affected their performance. From here we can start to see where Manchester City's weak points can then be exploited by their opponents, namely in the midfield. That way, when they can play with a full squad, the opponent will realize which point should be the part they should pay close attention to. Haaland is indeed a very sharp player, but when he is not supported by a good supply of balls coming to him, he also cannot do much as usual. So opponents will begin to strategize so that Manchester City's midfield can be suppressed.
1594  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: December 13, 2023, 02:34:53 PM
This season we have clubs that have such appeal that the attention is centered on them. Usually we always talk about Real Madrid, Barcelona or Atletico Madrid which are the three clubs that always compete in the top flight. But this season a new club has emerged and this is even their second season in La Liga after being relegated, Girona.
No half-hearted, they are even at the top of the standings and with the composition of the players they have, obviously it is a very good achievement. Their existence in the middle of a big club is certainly a different threat than usual, and who would have thought they would be able to survive this far. For me when they can survive until the first round ends it is already something good, and hopefully they can survive until the end of the season.
1595  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Which one is fun, watching with bet or without a bet? on: December 13, 2023, 12:13:00 PM
Just trying to get the communities opinion based on their experience about the topic.

Personally, a a bettor, I find it very stressful when watching the game you are betting especially if it will end up a losing bet.

If we have the same experience, how do you cope up with that problem, after all, gambling should be fun but why we have this kind of feeling that we feel disappointed when our bet loses?

I am sure many will agree that watching with a bet is more fun but for me personally when I am watching my favorite team playing I love watching without a bet.That for the simple reason that when the bet goes wrong we tend to get mad and we lose the real enjoyment of watching our team playing.Yesterday I was watching a team I love to watch without betting as they did not win and I would be mad double the amount,one for not winning and one for not winning the bet.

True, especially if they bet on their favorite team then obviously it will be very fun and more adrenaline, I think for this problem it comes back to everyone's choice about whether they will watch while betting or not, but on the other hand it is better in my opinion like the way you do, because gambling is nothing more than entertainment then if you can already get entertainment from your favorite team's match that you watch why do you still put a bet at the same time? like I said above that it's a choice and also depends a bit on one's point of view on gambling, if indeed they see gambling as a place to earn then obviously I think they won't miss to put money on a match like this.

What you said is quite reasonable my friend, your action is very good by choosing to just watch and not accompanied by betting, because if your favorite team loses then obviously there will be two regrets that you experience at the same time, which is disappointed because the team loses and the second is losing betting money, that's clear, it seems like this is worth making an example and understanding.
1596  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: A gambler takes his own life after a loss. on: December 13, 2023, 11:39:58 AM
That is why we should not come up with goals that are not recommended in gambling such as getting involved to earn, lately I see very many people who see gambling as a place to earn, I don't know what is the reason but what is certain is that they come because they are encouraged and motivated from people who managed to get a big win without them knowing how much the person has spent before managing to get such a win.

Wrong thinking and misunderstanding makes you always overreact because you are tempted by something that looks like tempting, and after that without realizing that you have entered the addiction phase where you always put greed when you win and curiosity when you lose. I think this is a really dangerous addiction cycle, there is no set time limit as long as you still carry that mindset, but what is certain is that you will continue to suffer tremendous pressure from the losses you always experience, emotions and depression are certain and I think some of these things make people desperate to commit suicide like the case described by the OP.
1597  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is gambling all about luck? on: December 13, 2023, 11:15:02 AM
If we are gambling because we want luck, it will be a never ending argument on which one either we want luck or we just want to play to entertain ourselves. If we want luck, I think this the beginning of something like chasing the luck and we might end up overspending. 😅

Well for me gambling isn't all about luck because not every one are opportune to win bets so I just fell that sometimes winning bets is dependent on the kind of game that one is gambling with like there are some games that requires puzzles and calculations so if you follow the right instructions then you'll win and there are some that isn't too dependent on how you predicted it but just that you may be lucky it played without much stress being involved

Honestly, I don't understand what you said about luck, you said that not all gamblers have the opportunity to win gambling is true but it is not a matter of choosing the wrong type of game but rather refers that basically they are just unlucky in that session. So the conclusion is that in my personal opinion no matter where you play it is basically very simple that if you are unlucky then obviously you will lose even if you try some other games.

One example might be sports betting, there you can apply the skills you have to increase the percentage of luck with the understanding of the world of sports that you have but still even so the final result still refers to luck, not infrequently we see some top-class teams can be defeated by weak teams and it's all unexpected and that's what is meant by no luck. So in essence I think if you really want to gamble then gamble normally with a calm feeling and not by putting too much hope, use your feelings in choosing some games and if you do lose it means at that time you are unlucky, as simple as that.
1598  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you wrap up your gambling session? on: December 13, 2023, 10:38:50 AM
How about you do you wrap up your sessions and how many minutes or hours and do you think it's ok to do a wrap-up?
I usually spend one to two hours gambling and that's only on weekends because I don't gamble on weekdays, so I divert all my weekday hours to the weekend, sometimes I can spend more than that sitting in front of me. my laptop to play some casino games just to wait for the football match because I also gamble on sports betting as my main gambling compared to the casino which I usually play just to accompany my free time.

But to complete a gambling game session I usually not only measure it by time but also the budget that I have limited, sometimes I still have money left in my budget so the game continues as long as I haven't reached my gambling budget limit, not everything is determined by time but also to see if I still have a budget to play, if I still have it I will still play it until it runs out
The importance of the budget we have in gambling will really help us in determining when is the right time to stop and I also apply this in my gambling. Maybe many people continue to gamble even though their budget is small and in the end they cross the line and find it difficult to stop. Unconsciously, they continue to spend money without being able to stop and this could be detrimental to themselves in the future. So here it is very important regarding the budget that we use when gambling.

Here I also only bet on football matches and sometimes if the result is a win then I will use 30% of the winnings to play slots and if in that case I lose, I don't mind because it's just for entertainment and I don't think too much about the results.

Maybe what you mean is the importance of limiting the budget we have to bet on each gambling session. It is true that the amount of the budget can really determine how long we will gamble, for example if you put a small amount then obviously your gambling session usually won't run. too long unless you are really lucky with a good spin that can increase the money in your gambling account, apart from that what is also important to be able to complete the gambling session is understanding and the limits that are applied, because on the other hand it is very possible even if you put the amount small but basically you don't have a healthy understanding of the concept of gambling which should always be able to apply limits in terms of budget and time so what will happen is that as you said they will just keep making deposits and not know when it's time to stop.

Of the many types of gambling, I think sports betting is the more effective thing to do, it's nothing because you can slightly increase your luck percentage with the skills you have in the world of sports and with that you won't suffer as many losses as usual. we find in slot games. In slots you have to be firm and alert, the results are always disappointing because the randomness in them often makes us emotional and lose control.
1599  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you regret also for ever knowing about gambling? on: December 13, 2023, 10:18:05 AM
I don't regret knowing about gambling. When I've had bad losses I don't blame it on others because we are all responsible for our own actions. I consider gambling a fun hobby. Certain people might have a propensity for addiction. In that case they should acknowledge when they have a problem and modify their behavior to avoid causing financial harm that can be difficult to recover from.

It looks like you have a pretty good approach in your gambling involvement, actually for the matter of regret it goes back to each gambler, especially about addressing the adverse effects they experience from the gambling they do, I think usually they will not regret or will not regret too much if they always bring limits or mean gambling in a healthy and not excessive just by putting a small budget. The key is the correct understanding of gambling itself, if from the beginning you already understand how the chances of winning and the risk of losing work then I think you shouldn't regret it because if you know everything and then get involved from there it is also certain that you have a sense of responsibility for whatever will happen, especially risks.

If you blame others for your downturn in gambling then I think it's really absurd, how can you blame others while on the other hand you yourself do everything, gambling is really nothing more than a place to seek entertainment alone that's true because the fact is the more often you try because of curiosity, the more you will lose and you will have the same fate as those who are already addicted. For you I hope you can maintain this understanding so as not to be carried away by negative currents.
1600  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: December 12, 2023, 05:14:02 PM
The next match Bilbao will host Atletico and this will be quite a tough match for Bilbao because Atletico will try to steal points at their home ground so they can continue to maintain their position against Barcelona and I think Bilbao will lose this match later and Bilbao will also be shifted in position by Real Sociedad.
Yes, agree with that because Atletico Madrid need the full three points to keep their position in third place, that's why they will definitely try their best to win the match, Atletico Madrid's position with Barcelona has the same points, that's why Atletico Madrid must really can maintain their position there and Barcelona will certainly regain third place in the standings if Atletico Madrid fails to beat Bilbao.

After holding Madrid to a draw in the previous match, of course Bilbao is also very much taken into account, maybe it won't be easy for Atletico Madrid to beat Bilbao at home, even though many people are favorites for Atletico Madrid to win and get full points in the meeting in the next match. I also predict Atletico Madrid will steal points by winning narrowly.
Yes Atletico Bilbao are a force to be reckoned with in this mtch, they are a club full of surprises and can do anything when they are in good form. Atletico Madrid is indeed in the position of the standings above Atletico Bilbao, but that does not guarantee that the victory will necessarily be obtained by Atletico Madrid, especially in this match Atletico Bilbao will act as the host.
in their ability to score goals can also be said to be the same, but here Atletico Madrid is better in terms of defense. But with the great motivation instiled by Atletico Bilbao it will be a real threat to them.
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