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1321  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Rich, average or poor. Who loses more? on: January 03, 2024, 01:51:08 PM
No matter how you try to say it, the rich have more advantage of wining than the poor. It is noted that the poor always stake Little amount of money with higher odd and the rich stake bigger amount with less odd and that  will make them have more advantage over the poor and nothing more than that. That's just the truth.
Yes, that's correct. That is the advantage of rich people over poor people who can use their money for many things. They can bet large amounts of money than poor people and have a chance to win more than poor people. Apart from that, rich people can also gamble more often than poor people and for longer than them so that they really enjoy the gambling games they play. But if we talk about who will lose more, perhaps it is true that rich people can lose more than poor people because rich people use more money than poor people. So it's normal to assume that rich people will lose more than anyone else.

Yes it is, and the difference in financial terms is the main focus in this issue between the rich and the poor, as you said that the rich have better financial strength which means they have the freedom in terms of allocating their money wherever they want especially in gambling. On the other hand for the problem of whether they will win more or not I think it is still unknowable, what is clear is that the rich have more experiments than the poor which means I agree that they will be closer to victory or luck, but if we look at it in terms of losing I think it's the same, meaning that the rich will also definitely experience a much bigger loss than the poor because as we know that luck can always not be known when it comes.

You have also said the same thing above that if we look at the risk of loss then the rich will also clearly have a considerable amount of defeat because they have more experiments than the poor, so still self-control and limits must still be owned whether you are poor or rich because the casino will be happier if you have financial freedom because it is also potentially a big advantage for the casino with the defeat that at any time dominates the rich.
1322  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you care about what people say about you gambling? on: January 03, 2024, 01:31:22 PM
Greetings everyone and happy new year all!

Okay, today I was actually out for a little business and it happens that I almost spent all my time wasted without me even having a smooth deal, but along the line I have few games that I have placed a bet and was wanting to view my games from my phone since gambling is now mobile, what I meant by mobile is that you can access your account at any place provided that you have an internet connectivity you will login to monitor your matches.

So when I logged in, someone close to me easily peep from my left hand side and noticed that I just opened my account monitoring my games, at this point what he said is "ahh you don join dem"? Meaning you have also belong to the groups of people that gambles?

On a lighter note, I just smile and asked him if there is anything wrong while gambling or while monitoring my games and he said nothing but just that few people he knew that are gambling almost turned useless.

This now triggered me to come ask here whether you cares about what people says or sees you as when gambling, I know there are people who don't know you from time or who doesn't believe that you are a gambler and if it happens that you came across such people and their reaction towards you goes other way round would you care about it or you just totally ignore them?

Let's discuss amicably

Public critisism is okay, but I don't care if some people has a say about what I am doing, there is nothing they can do and I am not aggrieved by them. I don't even ask them for any amount for gambling, so I don't care what they will say or think. People will quickly judge and insulted you just because they knew that you're into gambling, that's how low they look at people who participated in any gambling activity.

Yes the point is to each their own on this issue, in any case and not in the world of gambling alone for myself honestly don't really care what other people say about anything I do, for me the most important thing is that I don't harm anyone in any way. If they comment in a way that is too much then I think it's likely that they are one of the people who envy us, but on the other hand as we know that gambling has a very negative perspective in the eyes of society which means that it will be possible for people to comment on our gambling activities, especially if they are one of the people who have never gambled and have the same perspective as the general public about the negative world of gambling. So that's one of the things that I don't really care about because I'm not harming other people like the idea that you said and also in addition maybe I will be a little bit reasonable because like I said about the overall negativity of gambling in the eyes of society.
1323  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The shorter the time you spend the better on: January 03, 2024, 12:40:12 PM
I agree with the idea made by the OP about "the less / shorter the gambling time, the better", there are many reasons why I agree with this idea, as we know that gambling involves a lot of mental and psychological feelings, we must know that there are a lot of temptations in gambling, especially when we are running sessions, such as maybe something that looks tempting, one of which you will or have been in a situation that looks like it will succeed in getting a win but it turns out that all of that is just an indication and in the end it still loses, and after that the psychological and mental gambler will usually be disturbed because it turns out that the final result does not match expectations.

That is why we must have control  and some  limits when we are involved in gambling, such as limiting gambling time and also by limiting the amount of budget as small as possible, none other than all of that to minimize things that are not wanted, because it is very difficult to be able to stop if you are mentally and psychologically disturbed which eventually emotions will dominate and it is not uncommon for them to run out of all their savings.
1324  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you believe in gambling experts predictions? on: January 03, 2024, 11:38:40 AM

On the other hand, in sports betting it does require a good enough research, skill and knowledge to be able to get us closer to luck, or that means combining skill with luck to produce victory, but sometimes it is not uncommon to see that the results of the match are completely unexpected, or that means the overall favorite team loses against a weak team and obviously doesn't that mean luck is still involved and very important? Obviously, and that is also one of the reasons why I do not believe that there is someone who has been said to be an expert in the world of gambling, however, risk can never be avoided completely, so don't be too excessive in gambling, gamble with the aim of filling empty time.
When I hear about experts in gambling or trading, this always causes me a skeptical attitude. If the so -called expert can earn money on this, then why does he share his successful strategy with others, if he can earn any amount of money from his knowledge, then why should he do something else?

If someone is engaged in predictions, then this is done only with the aim of making extra money, and if a person needs money, then I cannot perceive as an expert, I think that real professionals will not share such information with anyone.

It's natural to be skeptical when you see these so-called experts, I'm the same way. It's natural and one of the reasons that comes out of my mindset regarding this is because after all this is gambling where in general and overall the final result is always unpredictable no matter how good you are, so that's what makes us suspicious about their profession. Well that's the logic my friend, as you said and your idea is exactly the same as what I have in mind, if indeed they are experts who are believed to be able to make the final result 100% win then why don't they do it themselves? anyway even if they don't have money they can borrow from others and it won't be a problem if indeed they can make the final hsail win.

But here they even invite others, actually from here alone for people who think with common sense will definitely put suspicion like us, but unfortunately most people don't think in that direction at all because their main focus is only on winning so they end up trapped in the tricks of people who are called experts, so the point is we have to be more careful and alert so that we don't become one of the next victims.
1325  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can loneliness make one addicted to gambling on: January 02, 2024, 12:33:10 PM
Loneliness, otherwise isolation is very bad because so far as you're always alone all the time there are some bad thoughts that would be running through your mind more especially if you're losing bets because sometimes you can run into depression and even make an attempt to take your own life but when you're mixed with people, maybe gamblers and you also see some persons that are also in same category with you, it makes you calm down and move on in times of challenges so basically, not only in gambling but in life, being too isolated is a bad attitude that can ruin ones life in a lifetime so no matter what you're experiencing or going through, loneliness isn't the best option.
Sometimes taking a little bit of time to be on your own can be a good thing as we also need our space from time to time, but if this is something we encounter continuously then it can easily affect us as well, in view of this we need to keep a balance between both postures, and try to spend some time with the company of other people, but also take the time to be on our own as this is the best approach that we can take for our personal development.

Having that balance will allow you to cope up with loneliness, it's not an easy task though as we know that it can triggered depressions
but we should not resort ourselves to something that may cause more problem in life.

If we can find ways to stay surrounded by people we love or find something that will eliminate that loneliness.

In a short run, maybe gambling can bring you a temporary entertainment but resorting to this venue, it would be an easy way also to
trigger addiction, as sooner or later you will find yourself interpreting addiction as only part of your entertainment.

I think it really depends on what they want and what they will choose to do when they are in a lonely situation, after all for someone who has never gambled for example it is unlikely that they will immediately think of gambling when they are in a lonely situation, It is more likely that they will play online games on their gadgets and not include gambling or call one of their friends to accompany them, and for people who choose to engage in gambling I think they have previously tried gambling and on the other hand I think their goal is not only to seek pleasure but also with curiosity based on a victory, such as pitting their luck on luck.

So I think it's about choice, after all there are many other activities that can be entertaining but without risk, such as playing the games I mentioned above or maybe watching a netflix series to fill their empty time.

Yes, if in the end they have to allocate their time to gambling then addiction does not happen immediately because everything will go gradually, it requires a change in mindset and point of view first and if this activity is done in the long run every time they feel lonely then obviously in the end addiction is something they will definitely experience.
1326  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is the perception of people about gamblers in your neighborhood? on: January 02, 2024, 12:16:00 PM
If you consider Muslim background, to be honest, people are sort of scared and worried about gambling communities. Especially families think gambling is some sort of unavoidable corruption. But I think this is mainly prejudice. For example sports betting is totally legal in my local, and many people try it every weekend mainly with football or basketball matches. I see noone is thinking a lot about that. People treat it as some sort of entertainment and adding flavor to watching experience of a match.

Well it makes sense, it turns out that the whole society not only looks from the point of view of the negative impact of gambling but also includes what you said that each religion has its own beliefs and regulations, such as the  Muslim religion, one of which you said, as far as I know they have quite strict rules, not only gambling restrictions but such as in terms of food also has restrictions or means there is one food that cannot be consumed and maybe such restrictions also apply in several other religions.

In addition to the limitations of belief according to each religion, on the other hand, obviously in terms of government also has regulations, some are legalized and some are not, and maybe one of them is in your country which allows people to engage in gambling, of course maybe your government has regulated everything or means that it already has a formula to overcome the problem of the impact of gambling by its people so that it has become a very common thing to do by most people on weekends. I think it's actually not a problem if we treat and address  gambling as an activity that is nothing more than entertainment because then maybe they will not be too excessive, unless otherwise.
1327  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What's Your Feeling After You Finish Gambling. on: January 02, 2024, 11:41:43 AM
I don't play for a really long time so I must say that I don't feel too much exhaustion but I do feel happy most of the time even if I lose money. I was once irritated whenever I end my sessions but then I got to the point that I ask why I'm mad when I put myself in this position and I don't enjoy the game when I do this so I started learning to be happy no matter what happens when I gamble.
If we can really limit our gambling activities and not use a lot of money in gambling, we will not experience negative feelings because we know we are gambling using the money we can afford. We will stop gambling when it is almost time so that we don't gamble too much. Yes, we have all been upset because we have experienced defeat, but as long as we can learn from that experience, we will be able to understand that we have made a mistake so we have to change it. By continuing to learn to enjoy gambling games, we can do so that we won't experience depression or stress if we lose. After all, it is a defeat we can afford so we can accept it well. There is still plenty of time to enjoy gambling games so we don't need to gamble for too long and just spend our free time.

Yup, it's true, but no matter how much we want to, we can't really say or avoid what we shouldn't do when it comes to gambling, there are many things that are hard to explain that even the gambler himself doesn't know what he feels. even if they want to follow the advice from other people, they can't do it and they have a hard time controlling themselves. They are aware that they may be becoming addicted to gambling, it's just that we only have our own timeline for how long it will take us to overcome the addiction.

Exactly, although some boundaries and self-control are indeed very important in a gambling activity but it is not always easy to do and that difficulty is one of the reasons why there are still people who fall into addiction, none other than the impact that occurs due to excessive approach and the difficulty to resist all the temptations and emotions that occur when the final result does not match or is very far from what we want.

I think some advice will only be useful if the person we are advising is still at a pretty good level of awareness but awareness is one of the things that is difficult for them to get when they are running a session, there are so many temptations that make them disobey the plan they have built before that they end up getting carried away, it is very clear that with the difficulty of achieving awareness in gambling it will obviously make them closer to the addiction zone which is certainly very bad. So this is the importance of having the right understanding of gambling, especially about the chances of winning and the risk of losing, if you understand everything then I think you will not dare to overdo it because it is very difficult to recover if you have entered the addiction consciously or unconsciously.
1328  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you believe in gambling experts predictions? on: January 02, 2024, 11:16:55 AM
There is another question here. How correct is it to use expert advice in general? That is, to follow the advice of experts who are not responsible for their forecasts? I believe that people who trade their forecasts are unlikely to make them with sufficient quality. Otherwise, they would have used them in their own work. Every trader or person working with sports betting should do their research and play their game based on these studies. It's not a whim, it's part of risk management. We can get much better results from our work if we are not lazy. You need to invest your time and work in research.

In common sense using the advice or services of someone who is called an expert may be fine but the problem is that we must be able to see in what case you use the services of these experts, if it is in other matters outside of gambling then maybe their expertise can be trusted, but if the situation and scenario is in gambling then honestly I think it is a pretty careless or even stupid decision by putting trust in someone who is called an expert while in gambling all the final results cannot be predicted and are always beyond our expectations.

On the other hand, in sports betting it does require a good enough research, skill and knowledge to be able to get us closer to luck, or that means combining skill with luck to produce victory, but sometimes it is not uncommon to see that the results of the match are completely unexpected, or that means the overall favorite team loses against a weak team and obviously doesn't that mean luck is still involved and very important? Obviously, and that is also one of the reasons why I do not believe that there is someone who has been said to be an expert in the world of gambling, however, risk can never be avoided completely, so don't be too excessive in gambling, gamble with the aim of filling empty time.
1329  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gamblers understood the game on: January 02, 2024, 10:46:18 AM
~snip~

if they have ever gambled or are currently actively gambling, we no longer invite them. Gambling sharing is a commons, if we already know that the person is an active gambler, this situation is similar with our discussion here in this forum. If they ask about the game, I can give any explanations as far as he is a active gambler. But I personally would not suggest any games and would not ask him to try the games let he doing by himself, because after all I would feel bad if I suggested a games and caused that person to lose, even though he was playing with conscience and own responsibility.
In my opinion, giving an understanding about gambling to our friends is a natural thing because fellow friends of course we share knowledge if we know the type of game, and if you decide to just give an explanation without having to tell them not to gamble on the game you told them about, that is your right but you don't have the right to tell him not to use the game in the type of gambling you explained because your friend is the one who make his own decision, namely deciding whether to play or not. You shouldn't be blamed by your friends because your goal is only to explain the game without telling him to playing, if your friend blames you for losing in the game, you can blame him again because you didn't force him to gamble because you only told him and only explained it.

True, however such things are natural and cannot be denied if the situation is friends or know each other or even very close, although basically this is a bad or negative activity but yes maybe it is not strange if it happens in a friendship relationship, fellow friends especially they are friends who are very close to us then honestly for myself maybe I would not mind at all to introduce something like a new type of game in gambling, but maybe I would only tell how the game works and without forcing them to play there especially by telling to put a large amount.

So the point is that it is better to explain what they want and without us telling and encouraging them to play intentionally and without them asking, as you said it is very true for the problem of whether they will get involved in the new game or not all of that is really their own choice, this action will be very useful to minimize accusations that should not need to happen, and if something like that happens then obviously I think the incident will very likely disrupt our friendship with him. So if there really is a best move then there is no need to choose something that will later become a problem.
1330  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What's Your Feeling After You Finish Gambling. on: January 01, 2024, 05:09:06 PM
I can’t answer this question right away. In many cases, the mood depends on the situation. In truth, here you can put and select several options at once, and not just one specific one. Yeah... Voting is too difficult for me. Here I sit and think about which one to choose.

I remember many cases from my game, for example, in slots. At one time I was full of joy, and at other times I was disappointed that I simply left with nothing.
Feelings after gambling depend on whether there was a profit or a loss at the end of the gambling period. Because when I stop gambling with profit, my feelings are very happy but if I stop gambling with loss, I feel very bad. It happens to everyone I think. Because everyone wants to be a profit sharer but no one wants to be a loss sharer. There is no room for neutral in gambling. There may be loss or gain here. And the gambler will either be happy or sad

Well that's right, the feeling that every gambler will feel depends on the final result of the session they are doing, if the result is winning then obviously they will feel a certain level of excitement and if on the contrary it means losing then at least there will definitely be a feeling of annoyance or disappointment that they will feel even though they come only to seek pleasure because everyone will not be able to fully accept losing their money. True, in gambling most people definitely want to win, even though it is not their main goal but still they will not refuse the victory.

On the other hand there are also some people who initially managed to get a win but not long after that the situation changed and eventually led to defeat, usually such things happen because luck is no longer there and more often than not they experience such things because they apply greed to such situations so that it ends with regret after all the initial victory is lost again.
1331  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you believe in gambling experts predictions? on: January 01, 2024, 04:50:37 PM
A gambling expert brought i and some friends a guaranteed predicted game and asked us to stake a a high amount so that we winning could be huge and so we can give him a percentage of the money at winning.

I don't believe there could be a 100% guaranteed game but yet my friends who are eager to make profits in the gambling accepted to play the gamed as instructed and at the end of it, they all loosed the game and at then, the rest of us were happy because we didn't play the game else we would had loosed as others.

I want to ask, do you believe in experts gambling predictions?



No one can know what number will come up next on roulette in gambling, just as no one knows what the results of the matches will be. The same applies to slots with their combinations. If the casino is honest, then even they don’t know what the player will get. This means there can be no experts who could predict future gambling results. It just turns out that it’s unclear why they are trying to advise other players if they can enrich themselves with such knowledge. This means they don’t have any knowledge or insights, they are ordinary charlatans.

True, the end result of a gambling session is always unpredictable, if it could be predicted then wouldn't it not be called a gambling activity? yes the logic is just like that, and that's why many lose money on gambling, some win and some lose but overall I agree with the idea of many people even the risk of losing is greater which means the number of gamblers who lose is more than those who win, you can prove it yourself by trying 10x tries and see how many wins you manage to achieve, getting 5x wins alone I think is quite impossible and this is gambling.

So with this fact then of course makes me completely disagree with the idea that there are people who are experts in gambling, that means they can already see the future but isn't that nonsense? obviously, and from the OP's story has also shown that the defeat of some of his friends is enough to prove that the final result really cannot be known and there are no experts in gambling. Now you have also said that if they (gambling experts) can make the final result really win then logically why don't they do it themselves? It doesn't make sense, and we have to be more careful if someone promises something in gambling.
1332  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gamblers understood the game on: January 01, 2024, 04:30:45 PM
How many times have you successfully invited some gamblers to online casino? What is your experience doing so? I know many will find this hard to believe but I kinda prefer bringing in gamblers than investors into crypto, why? They understood the risk already, there is no talk and talk over again, there is no dealing with someone fear and confidence..
The only person I have invited and introduced into online casino gambling is my brother. He has successfully won more money than me in gambling. The advantage of this is that I have been able to hold ourselves responsible in our gambling journey.

Honestly I have almost the same scenario as you in gambling involvement, I have one of my brothers who can be said to be new to gambling, but maybe the difference is that I did not introduce gambling to him and he found out about gambling from some of his friends, even though he is new but it turns out that he has managed to get a very large win by accident, I said that my brother seems to have pretty good luck in his life so that he can get that big win and on the other hand his winnings are much bigger than the winnings I have ever gotten during my gambling.

But on the other hand even so I always commit to him to advise each other and exchange some good advice when we have problems in self-control and emotions so this can be a pretty good combination to encourage preventive action, cooperate with each other in terms of reminding and that's good, I think there may also be some people who have the same situation like this.
1333  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: January 01, 2024, 01:35:23 PM
The Champions League is always unpredictable. It is difficult to say which team will be the champion. No wonder an underdog team wins. A few years ago the Chelsea team won the Champions League title. No one imagines that a mediocre team like Chelsea will win the Champions League title. This season, Madrid, City, Bayern Munich are naturally favorites. However, there is no surprise if any team wins the title outside of these teams. Each group has strengths as well as several weaknesses.

We agree, because after all the Champions League is different from other domestic leagues. in the round of 16 and the next round, each team will play 2 matches, either home or away. in this phase, each team will maximize its strength when competing against other teams. one mistake made by a player can have fatal consequences for the team as a whole. even if it's a strong team, they have the potential to be overthrown by teams that we don't expect. currently, the teams that are predicted to be strong competitors in the race for the trophy are Manchester City, Real Madrid and Bayern Munich. for me, these three teams have a chance to appear in the Champions League final. it's just that, we never know until it's time for the final round to be held. it could be that the three teams I mentioned were defeated by other teams who are also still involved in this competition. after all, the round of 16 had not yet been held. so, it is still not possible to determine which team will enter the final. so far, we can only assume and speculate because it is based on the team's strength, performance, and also how they play their matches in this competition. for me personally, I prioritize the beauty of the game in modern football.  Whoever the team is competing, let's just enjoy it. moreover, ahead of the crucial rounds until the final round. and there is no other way, but to follow every development until the end of this competition.
In the Champions League everything is possible because it is filled with the best clubs from their respective leagues. But there are some clubs that are always declared to be favorites in every season, for example, Real Madrid. With their status as the club that has won the most titles, they are always taken into account in every season. But that doesn't end well either, sometimes they really succeed and sometimes they have to be eliminated early.
There is always a chance for other clubs, but it's not as big a chance as it is for the favorites.
In the Champions League it is rare for a club to win back-to-back titles, and one club that can do that is Real Madrid, who have won the Champions League three times in a row. They seem to have broken the curse that most people believe in the Champions League.
1334  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: January 01, 2024, 01:19:12 PM
In the long run it harms the league and then every once in a while, like maybe once in a decade or so, you can see that PSG has some struggles because they can't motivate themselves and have many legacy players who have won the title eight times, another club comes forward and has a remarkable run for a season and eventually wins the trophy once. Then that is the wake up call for PSG again and the cycle restarts. PSG is focused again and wins ten titles in a row.

Look at the German Bundesliga where Bayern Munich has won all Bundesliga titles for over a decade I think. The gap between them and the rest isn't quite as big as it is in Ligue 1, but still it is enough to dominate the league forever. It is boring for the people who love football and want competition in their domestic leagues.

There is nothing fun about seeing the same team win all the time even when it is the fans who are cheering for PSG.

that's what happens in Ligue 1. because each club owner may have a different investment for their club. and the gap with other clubs will be clear when PSG can gather Mbappe, Messi, and Neymar. I'm sure no club in Ligue 1 could do that in that situation.
PSG seems to have to make plans for some of the top players in the transfer market that they can get. They have dominated in Ligue 1, but they will be doubted when they are in European competitions like the Champions League. PSG may have a chance to progress from the last 16 of the Champions League, but they will not win it.
Money makes all the difference between one club and another, and that's what we see with Paris Saint Germain at the moment. No other club has the same financial situation as Paris Saint Germain, they can't even come close. Paris Saint Germain are the only club in Ligue 1 that is attractive to investors and sponsors and they don't have the same interest as other clubs in LIgue 1. I'm not sure about this, I mean can't they provide something that makes big sponsors interested in them?
So it's very natural for one club to dominate this league and it's true that it becomes boring because we see the equal competition that other clubs can do. If there were 1 or 2 clubs that had the same ability as Paris Saint Germain, I think this league would be a little bit more interesting.
1335  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: January 01, 2024, 01:03:14 PM

I believe Messi is a better football player, but I'm sure Cristiano Ronaldo is a more hardworking football player. Even though he is 38 years old, he still runs a lot on the pitch and puts a lot of effort. I think it's impossible to do that with God-given talents. These are achievements that are the result of hard work, discipline and a regular life. Ronaldo is above all a good professional. And he works hard to live like a good professional.
I don't think we should compare Messi and Ronaldo, because they have their own strengths and to say who is better I think they are at the same level.
We are lucky to be able to witness their greatness and I think it will be difficult to find plyers like them in a very fierce competition. It will be very sad when they decide to retire as footballers.
They are footballers who last a very long time, even their dominance is unstoppable for more than a decade. Although many young players are born who have a good game, they remain a very interesting topic of conversation.
Now that they are old, they are just enjoying their career before deciding to retire later. They deserve to be considered as one of the legends of football.
1336  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: January 01, 2024, 12:48:15 PM
I think I said this before, but they didn't lose the title in the last match at home, they lost the title in a dozen of matches they should have won or tied before the last match was played. Dortmund is just not good enough and it has been like that for a while now. They have good weeks and then it looks as if they were able to break Bayern's dominance, but then the disappointment is so huge that nobody can trust their eyes what's happening. The last game last season was only the tip of the iceberg. The whole drama enfolded over the course of the whole season.
The present poor performance from the Borrusia Dortmund, they deserved it because they derived more pleasure and making enormous profits from selling their key players other than aiming to winning major titles. Last season would have become one of the good moments that would come from the players and the team's supporters, but the team choose to ruined it by losing their last match that would have settled the difference between them and Bayern Munich who was also the exact same points. Dortmund have to stop selling key players to other elite clubs and decides to stay firm and build their club surround these incredible players.

It's something they have to accept when they are still practicing habits that are actually not good for them in terms of the game. For business, obviously it's something that is very profitable for them, but they should also be more able to balance between business and titles. If they want to and they can suppress their habits a bit more, I'm sure they'll be a much stronger club than they were last season. And I would say they would be on the same level as their main competitors, Bayern Munich.
But as of now it seems that the management is prioritizing profitable business over titles. I won't talk about bigger competitions like the Champions League, but at least they can provide fierce competition in the Bundesliga and can stop the dominance that Bayern Munich has had until now. Bayern Munich are too comfortable in the Bundesliga, and before the league starts we can predict who will be the champions.
1337  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: January 01, 2024, 12:32:16 PM

He got a big profit from a financial perspective from PSG with all the conditions stated in his previous contract, but he will experience a big loss in terms of career due to having difficulty winning the UCL trophy with PSG. Mbappe is one of the big players, he is still young, he has to think more maturely in choosing money and a career.
At his current age he has to choose career over money, he has the potential to win the UCL with Real Madrid and can make it as the best player in the world. Money can be earned when they are at the end of their professional careers, like Benzema and Ronaldo who play in the Arab League.

We will read a lot of discussions and rumors about Mbappe in the coming days. I am sure he will want to leave Paris Saint-Germain FC and go to a more ambitious team in the Champions League. Paris Saint-Germain FC are going through a restructuring with Luis Enrique. And they are giving good signals for the future. But I don't think Mbappe can wait for them for a few more years, and we know he has earned a lot of money so far. His last contract with Paris Saint-Germain FC brought him good money. I think he will want to go to a team where he wants to win more trophies instead of earning more money. If earning more money was his first priority, he would have said yes to the crazy offer made by the Arabs at the beginning of the season.

Mbappe's desire to quickly leave Paris Saint Germain he already said last season, but by all means Paris Saint Germain did not allow Mbappe to leave. He is a talented player who is very unfortunate that his potential cannot be displayed to the fullest at Paris Saint Germain, I am sure he regrets when he decided to join Paris Saint Germain rather than Real Madrid at that time. now his desire to leave seems difficult, because Paris Saint Germain itself until now is still trying to convince him to stay in the squad.
Many say that Real Madrid is the ideal club for him, and it is indeed seen because at Real Madrid he can show his best abilities, especially in the Champions League. A player's ability must also be supported by the club's game too, because it is something that is interrelated with each other.
1338  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: January 01, 2024, 12:17:05 PM
After Ancelotti contract extension with Real Madrid, several interesting rumors have also spread, namely that there are attempts to bring in defenders on short contracts or on loan.
He is Manchester United player Raphael Varane, after all, Ancelotti desire to bring in the Manchester United defender has also been confirmed.
It just that we don't know whether Manchester United will actually loan out the defender they have or keep him because Manchester United itself is not in good condition this season.

Bringing in defenders is actually not priority for Real Madrid and of course without bringing in Raphael Varane they can still play well.
In addition, in the next few matches, we will only play against team that are not much stronger than them, so using the composition of reserve players have will definitely still be able to provide maximum performance.
Ancelotti still sees deficiencies in the defense area, so he wants Varane to rejoin the squad, I think it is a basic decision for Ancelotti, because Varane himself is a former foster child who certainly knows very well the character of the player he wants.
But the problem is as you say, Manchester United itself is not in a good condition, and Varane is one of the players that Manchester United relies on, I'm not sure Manchester United will want to keep this player, unless they can get a replacement that is commensurate or better than Varane.
Real Madrid's urgent need is in their attacking line, but at the moment they are quite relaxed, I have the thought they have confirmed that they will get the 1 player they need so they can be this relaxed. And the closest and most highly rumored is Mbappe, will it happen?
1339  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: January 01, 2024, 12:02:10 PM
Against Salernitana it shouldn't be a difficult opponent for Juventus. The most important thing is that Juventus must not underestimate their opponents. They must always treat every match as an important match like against other strong teams. Because most strong teams always lose to weak teams because they underestimate their opponents.
Salernitana will meet Juventus in two events at once, the Italian league and the Italian Cup in the next few days, I know Salernitana is at the bottom of the Italian league so it is not a club that poses a serious threat to Juventus, but with a short time gap between the two matches, Allegri has to organize and rotate the players so they don't feel tired due to this busy schedule. At least the Juventus players are in good form.

Victory is of course Juventus' main goal, especially in the Italian league, they have to catch up with Inter Milan, that's why they have to be able to take advantage and wait for Inter Milan to make another mistake so that Juventus can overtake them at the top of the standings and win the title this season. that's what all Juventus supporters might hope for. My prediction is that Juventus will win the match against Salernitana
On paper, Salernitana are not a big threat to Juventus, they are at the bottom of the table right now. Although they can win their last match, it is nothing compared to Juventus. Juventus should be able to win this match without encountering serious difficulties, unless they don't play well or they have a big misfortune that will make them possibly achieve an unsatisfactory result.
 They have managed to cut the gap with Inter Milan in the standings and that is good news for them, so they should be able to maintain what they have shown so far.
Their chances of becoming the best in Serie A again are wide open this season, especially since they also have the advantage of not having a busy schedule, and in terms of fitness they will definitely benefit. 2 points is their gap with Inter Milan in the table, I feel they will be able to coup Inter Milan in the future.
1340  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: January 01, 2024, 11:47:08 AM
Today will be a very important game for Liverpool... If they beat a weak Newcastle, they will confirm the first place in the EPL... Newcastle is performing worse and worse during the season... I don't know why this is so, maybe because of the Champions League...ю. But I'm sorry that this season started badly for them... The points against Liverpool probably won't be taken...
Just excited to watch big match today, absolutely going to stay home and enjoyed an entertaining game today. Both clubs are not in the UEFA Champions League competition, giving them more time to focused on winning top matches in EPL because it's solely their domestic league and winning is very important. Both clubs are very careful not to jeopardize their chances of winning, a strict measures will be implemented. Liverpool vs Newcastle United tonight, this is the first EPL fixture for the new year and everyone looking forward to watch the first EPL club that would accumulates three points in 2024.


Liverpool are in good form, while Newcastle are the opposite, they struggled to maintain their form last season and now they look weaker. I think Liverpool realize what Newcastle are experiencing this time, they are different from Newcastle in the previous season which showed an impressive performance. But even so they shouldn't try to underestimate Newcastle because it will be very dangerous for them, especially now that Liverpool are pursuing something they have to get this season, which is to become champions in the Premier League. If they win this match, then they will leave Aston Villa who are their closest club in the current standings with the same 42 points. Of course they will also leave Arsenal who won another defeat this week. Manchester City will probably be their closest club if Manchester City manage to win this week.
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