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1421  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Should mentally unstable people be allowed to gamble? on: December 26, 2023, 12:47:28 PM
Recently I was around a physical bet shop close to my area and I observed a man who was shabbily dressed walking in the gambling house. I got into the place to observe what his intentions were. He walked straight to the gaming attendant, placed his bets in a highly coordinated manner and quietly walked out of the physical gambling house. From the way he was well organized, you will never know that he was mentally unsound apart from his dirty clothes and unkept hair and beard.

When I inquired from the attendant, she said he was a regular customer and that he usually raised money for gambling through the manual jobs he does around the area. She also told me that he has never misbehaved and acted violently in the gambling house so she was comfortable with him.

My question now is are there any moral, ethical or legal obligation to bar a person from gambling after physically observing that he is mentally unstable?

If you see a person who is not well-dressed and looks good, do you need to be judged him quickly as mentally unstable? We have no right to judge a person based on physical appearance. As you heard from the attendant, He's a regular customer and he never shown any behavior as unpleasantly as you think. I think there's nothing wrong for him to go and play in a bet shop, most especially that he never did anything wrong from the start.

That's true, as you said that we can't if we only judge someone in terms of their appearance, because sometimes there are a lot of speculations and assumptions that don't match the facts, or that means they look bad or shabby but actually have a good personality and behavior and on the other hand sometimes the opposite is true, there are those who look good wearing a jaz with a tie but have very bad behavior or nature and often harm others, for that problem it is true. But on the other hand the casino is a place that is often visited by many visitors, although the officers never judge someone in terms of appearance but I think if there are people who have that appearance there is nothing wrong if the officers suspect them, because as we know in general the appearance of slums is always synonymous with crazy people or having mental disorders as we often see on the outskirts of the road.

So it is natural in my opinion if the officers are suspicious because obviously if the suspicion is correct in the sense that they are people who have mental disorders then obviously it will have the possibility or potential to disturb the comfort of other visitors in the casino, but on the other hand in the case said by the OP the person did not have any problems since he came there and always obeyed the rules like normal visitors, that's good and no problem but in my opinion if there are people we have just seen and look like that then it doesn't hurt to be suspicious and put on alert.
1422  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you think that this is aperfect analogy of how gambling addiction starts? on: December 26, 2023, 12:27:59 PM
The fact is that in gambling, especially those that rely purely on luck such as slot machines, for example, the more often you are involved in this type of gambling, it is clear that I will agree with your idea that the more losses you will experience, because after all it is very difficult to be able to make the number of wins more than the number of losses if we basically only rely on luck which always cannot be predicted when it comes, And that is why we must always have self-control and some limits when engaging in gambling, none other than because this activity is very involving mentally and psychologically which means that when your mental and psychological disorders due to not being able to accept defeat then obviously then emotions will play a role and finally you do some actions out of control one of which is by putting a larger amount and losing everything.

It is very difficult to deal with gambling as entertainment if they initially come with too much focus on winning, in the end some limits will be forgotten which of course falls further and further into a cycle of addiction that has no limits.
That's what I feel when I play slots. When I lose 100 spins, it makes me addicted and want to keep pressing the button, especially if I still have money in my balance. When playing slots, I also often buy the Bonus feature because I see several other friends who also buy the Bonus feature that can get big multipliers. It makes me curious and I always want to try it, but I also adjust it to the amount of balance I have because if it's not enough to buy the Bonus feature, I don't force myself by depositing more money. Yes, winning from slot games is difficult because it requires luck, which can only sometimes be with us. In the first 100 spins, luck can give you a decent multiplier. But there is no guarantee that luck will come in the second 100 spins so we should be able to limit ourselves when playing slots. Don't let us experience mental and psychological disorders that can cause us to think about slot games and hope to win by getting a big multiplier.

We must continue to try to treat gambling as entertainment because that is what we must do if we still want to gamble. If you find it difficult, maybe you need to rest for some time so you don't focus on winning from gambling because it is difficult to get. We must be able to control our gambling activities so that we don't experience any problems during gambling and after gambling. Otherwise, we will not be able to make gambling entertainment.

I think it's not only you who experience such things, but I also honestly may even often feel great disappointment like that when I used to be actively gambling, indeed this type of gambling I think is more interesting and which is currently popular in the general public. One of the things that makes me or maybe most people feel attracted to playing because there is a very large chance of winning such as the maximum win per one game and that is a very large amount, but on the other hand casinos are very smart because they provide something that looks tempting but behind the scenes they apply algorithms that are very difficult to crack, simply put the slot is very tempting but very difficult to conquer and I think that's one of the things that makes more people addicted to this type of gambling. I admit that I did come with the wrong mindset and approach due to being instigated by some of my friends but finally somehow now I have started to get bored of gambling and my interest has almost disappeared.

On the other hand, in my opinion, buying a bonus feature will drain your balance very quickly and for the problem of winning is also still not certain, sometimes the spin is very bad, so I prefer to play casually and wait for the free bonus to drop. In conclusion, what you say is right, friends, slots are very dangerous so don't let us overdo it and finally get carried away, this game is very tempting but it's just a trick, so we need to be very careful not to get addicted.
1423  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: December 25, 2023, 05:00:30 PM
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 However, if AC Milan loses to Sassuolo then it is very likely that Bologna will move up to third place in Serie A and at least be able to distance themselves further from AC Milan.

Sassuolo could be said to be a troublesome club for AC Milan. This didn't just happen once, but Sassuolo has proven in several matches that they can steal 3 points from AC Milan. This is a sign for AC Milan not to play without an effective strategy. If Sassuolo can see that there is an imbalance in the Milan strategy while playing on the field, I am sure Milan will lose points in this match. In fact, playing a draw is not a good result for Milan, which is trying to keep Milan points within the possibility of winning the championship.
Sassuolo is a club that is trying to improve their ranking in the standings, but that does not mean they will be defeated easily by AC Milan. AC Milan themselves are in need of a victory to maintain their position and keep the distance from being further away. Because it is true that if they lose this match, it will be more difficult for them to join the competition at the top with Inter Milan and Juventus. 7 points away from Juventus and 11 points from Inter Milan is a difficult distance for them and not only that, as you said they will be threatened with being displaced by Bologna in the standings. Because Bologna itself has a good chance of winning when dealing with Udinese.
1424  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 25, 2023, 04:37:50 PM
In the league where 2 teams stand out as relegation candidates, we can actually see this match as a very important match for both teams.Although it is more important for the hosts, it will be just as effective to win for Luton Town.Sheffield, who managed to get 1 point from Aston Villa away, will host Luton Town, who defeated Newcastle.I think we will watch a match where both teams will have a high chance of scoring goals.I think we can see an open football. It could be a high scoring game or it could be a complete barren affair.
I can't predict this match, because both clubs are unreliable now, maybe the match will end in a draw.
But for both clubs they must see each other's shortcomings and want to beat each other. And for both clubs this is an easy opponent considering their positions are close together at the bottom of the table.
When looking at the standings in the Premier League, the competition at the top and bottom is always interesting, that's what makes the competition in the Premier League competitive and interesting for us to follow. Unlike other leagues where the competition is only dominated by a few clubs and that honestly makes the league competitive for big clubs only.
1425  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: December 25, 2023, 03:06:34 PM
I don't think teams like Milan, Benfica and Galatasaray have a chance here. Liverpool and Bayern Levernkusen are the strongest favorites on paper. Liverpool is the team that has much more success and is chasing the first place in their own league.
We can't judge them to have no chance. But surely the chance to beat Leverkusen and Liverpool aren't very high. The most favorite team to win the title of Europa League should be Leverkusen and Liverpool. They are playing consistently and they have good squad. However, it is not impossible for a surprise to happen. The favorite teams don't always win as expected.


True, we never know what's going to happen to them in the match, they could pull off a big surprise and then silence all the doubters, so I agree that they still have a chance, although not as big a chance as Leverkusen and Liverpool.
Leverkusen and Liverpool are favorites because of their promising performances, so it's very natural that many people make them favorites, yes that includes me.
We can't forget other factors, like luck for example, because there are many cases where luck determines whether a club can achieve something satisfying or something disappointing. We can't underestimate another club, even if it's a club that doesn't look promising at all.
1426  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: December 25, 2023, 02:54:05 PM
Real Madrid still not announce their new manager for season 2024/25 after Carlo Ancelotti becoming Brazil head coach, will Zidane want return back to Madrid or he want get challenge become Premier League teams manager with Manchester United likely need new manager.
Hmmm, that is interesting, mate. I think Zidane will never go back to Real Madrid because now real Madrid have no more players, which Zidane need it.In order for a manager to run a club, according to his understanding, players are required, and if we look currently, Real Madrid doesn't have a single player who can play according to Zidane's standards. So therefore, I believed that Zidane would never go back to Real Madrid, and neither would he express his desire to go to Manchester United, because currently there are only players from France who can give performances to Zidane according to his tactics, i.e., counter attack + fast build-up crosses. Which is Zidane's favorite play?

I think there are only rumors about Manchester United, I have not received any official news, but let's see what happens next, whether he really goes to Manchester or accepts the France national team as a coach.
Real Madrid is a club that has a habit of re-engaging with coaches who have already been their coach. Don Carlo is also a coach who has coached them before and in recent seasons Ancelotti returned to the arms of Real Madrid before finally being confirmed to separate. So with habits like those of Real Madrid, Zidane's chances of becoming head coach are likely. It's just that until now I still haven't heard news about Zidane whether he will soon return to his activities as a coach or not.
Talking about the players Zidane needs, it seems only he knows it, because if you look at the current Real Madrid players there are also many good players and even young players. and if he wants new players I think Real Madrid will provide what the coach needs.
1427  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 25, 2023, 02:39:27 PM
Those ranked 1st to 3rd have continued to change since this season started. Tottenham even surprised everyone because in a few weeks Tottenham were also at the top of the rankings. But then all that changed. And Liverpool then went up within moments. And Man City is actually experiencing a decline now. And what makes it even more interesting is that now Aston Villa is actually joining the race and has managed to be ranked 3rd for the time being.

Well this season is really very interesting. Because it is different from last season, when Arsenal actually continued to occupy the top position from the start. But then Arsenal failed to retain him at the end of the season. Now Arsenal is also back to the top. But the point difference they currently have is really not in a safe position. So changes will certainly continue to occur. And it is possible that Aston Villa will also taste the top of the standings this season. But I think it will still be difficult for Aston Villa to win the title.
Arsenal has had good performance in the last two seasons but compared to last season, I think Arsenal have more promising preparations this season. The title race will definitely be fierce because apart from Man City there are still Liverpool, Tottenham, and Aston Villa who have also performed quite well this season and have a chance to tackle Arsenal. Maybe it will be quite difficult for Aston Villa to win the Premier League trophy, but at least they have a very big chance of getting tickets to the Champions League.
Yes Arsenal learned from the previous season and this season they can prepare even better. Arteta I think is a good coach because he can learn from their previous mistakes or weaknesses, and that is something that a coach must have, because after all they will always be faced with the same problems.
The squad owned by Arsenal can now be more mature than before and the addition of several new players also has a good impact. Oh yes when talking about signing new players, I appreciate Arteta because at least these 2 seasons he always brings in the right players and is really needed by the team and the impact is also felt. This proves that he is trying as much as possible to be effective in the transfer market not to squander a lot of money but become a failed transfer.
1428  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: December 25, 2023, 02:24:39 PM

Even though both of them don't look very good at the moment, Barcelona's performance in the Champions League cannot be underestimated, while Napoli experienced a much worse decline compared to Barcelona, but at least both teams still have a chance to qualify for the next round. If both of them are able to perform the best and surprising I myself really support Barcelona because in terms of squad and experience, Barcelona is further ahead of Napoli, so I might favor Barcelona more, but that doesn't mean I underestimate Napoli, it's just that this match is a little difficult for of us to predict.
Barcelona and Napoli now have their own problems. For the decline I see Napoli as having the worse decline, we can see that in Serie A. To be honest, I always use the domestic league as a measure, even though it's a different competition, but in the domestic league they have a schedule every week, so we can look at them and judge every week, whether they have decreased or improved.
I agree with you that it won't be easy to predict this match, and it's possible for them to beat each other and it will be their goal productivity that decides it. Both Napoli and Barcelona will have to watch out for each other.
1429  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: December 25, 2023, 02:09:40 PM
I think Barcelona's management is not wise if they break the cooperation with Xavi, because Barcelona's current performance is also due to their own actions in the past, which makes them unable to move freely, especially in the transfer market. Still lucky they have a coach like Xavi who can bring change when they slumped in the previous 2 seasons, and now they will kick this coach for that reason?
I understand that they want the title this season, but with the limitations they have, they should also be able to think more mature and not just blame the coach alone. Unless they give Xavi some perks and facilities, it still makes sense to me. Now the problem is that to recruit players they have to look for players who are on free transfers. I'm not a fan of Xavi here, but I see here they blame Xavi if they fail to bring trophies this season.
I agree with you, management and club officials must reflect well, that firing Xavi is not a wise course. The club financial situation is a big problem, Xavi knows more about players than those who only enjoy the results from the stands. I think Xavi has become a great coach by winning the La Liga title last season, in the midst of the chaos of the crisis he was able to overcome challenges and present trophies that not all coaches can do.

It was reported that Xavi was having an argument with sporting director Deco, the media concluded that Barcelona defeat to Anwerp in the UCL group phase was one of the factors. I think this season is not finished yet, and Barcelona still has a chance in every competition they participate in, indeed Xavi has some homework that needs to be completed. On the other hand, management should think about ways to support Xavi so he can be active in the transfer window, rather than thinking about what trophies Xavi can present without giving him enough spending money.
Well they should solve the source of their problem first, which is their finances. Because so far I don't see the problem with the coach even though he has been unsatisfactory several times, but we also have to be fair why the coach can get results like that. Unlike Koeman in the past, he was not good at the game, I didn't see any development at all so Barcelona made the right decision. Whereas Xavi has shown good performance for now, even last season he brought the La Liga title to Barcelona.
If they are thinking of sacking Xavi, I would say they should think twice if they want to do it, it could be disastrous for them. After all if they sack Xavi then who will they appoint to be the next coach?
1430  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: December 25, 2023, 01:52:26 PM
AS Roma still have the same problem every season, this season too they don't seem to have changed much from the previous season. Yes they are inconsistent and it is very difficult to create that consistency. It's not too bad, but it's not enough to bring them into the tight competition for the Scudetto title. To be in the top 4 alone seems like they will struggle with their current performance. Unless they can improve it in the second round later.
One of the problems they have is the defense that is still easy to be penetrated by opponents, and that makes it dificult for them to win every match. 8 wins, 4 draws and 5 defeats is something that is not satisfactory.
AS Roma defense line is one of the problems that Jose Mourinho has not been able to overcome, due to the weakness of the defense, it is very difficult for Roma to appear consistent. Last season Roma almost won the Europa League trophy, their journey was stopped after being defeated by Sevilla in the final.

This season Roma illness has returned like in previous seasons, they are still having difficulty competing in the race for the Serie A title. Mourinho must be able to overcome the problems that have not yet been resolved this season, bringing in new players in the defensive area might be able to make Roma compete in the top four which will enable them to play in the Champions League.
Will AS Roma keep Jose Mourinho if they fail this season in all competitions?
Maybe Jose Mourinho is the coach who can bring AS Roma back to the championship, yes even if it is only in the Conference League, but it is very valuable for AS Roma. But after that they also have an up and down performance and do not give hope that they will be able to do better. Actually they at the beginning of the season looked like they could compete, but as time went by they could not maintain the performance they showed at the beginning and always achieved unsatisfactory results in the next match. I think AS Roma should also start considering his current position, because the opportunity he received was also quite long and could not provide anything different. I don't know what problems he really has, because when viewed from the actual players AS Roma provides something he needs.
1431  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: December 25, 2023, 01:37:14 PM
Let's look at the bottom of the table, there are 3 clubs that have the same points, Mainz, Koln and Darmstadt who have 10 points each, ranked next is Union Berlin who has 13 points. It looks like the competition at the bottom is no less interesting, they will compete and shift each other until the end of the season.
Bremen and Bochum who have 16 points cannot be said to be safe, the article with the number of matches that still exist now it is very enough to catch them, especially if they lose a lot of points.
Focusing on Union Berlin, they are a club that has failed to perform well this season, after last season they could compete in the Bundesliga top 4 competition. The decline they experienced was so sharp that it put them in the current position, in a position that is very vulnerable to relegation.
That's quite interesting, besides having the same points, the bottom teams also have equal quality so they still have the same chance of getting out of the relegation zone.
What happened to Union Berlin this season was a bit of a surprise because they performed quite well last season but they have dropped significantly this season.

This season is still very long so all possibilities are still possible and I think up to now it is still difficult to predict which team will be relegated.
Yes, it makes the competition at the bottom very interesting because they will definitely race to do their best to stay in the Bundesliga next season. Given the number of matches is still quite a lot, so there is still great hope for the club in the bottom 3 positions to be able to improve their position and get out of the red zone. They will also be expecting the clubs above them at the moment to make a lot of mistakes so that they lose a lot of points and will benefit them.
But it is not an easy job for all those clubs, because it requires hard work and also luck to be able to make them better from one match to another. Their coaches will rack their brains on how they can get better at the game so that they can produce the desired results.
1432  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: December 25, 2023, 01:22:13 PM
For this reason Ligue 1 is not very competitive for competition for the title because it is difficult for other teams to break PSG's dominance and there are only a few opportunities that other teams ultimately fail to maximize. PSG's ownership under Nasser Al-Khelaifi means they have a lot of money to recruit the number of players needed and I think it will be quite difficult for other teams to match the quality of players they have in competition in Ligue 1.
Last season Lens managed to get behind PSG with just one point difference, but this season Lens is actually a team that is quite struggling to get into the European zone, and PSG this season is competing with Nice and Monaco, but with a five-point lead PSG will be quite difficult being chased by Nice and Monaco, this fact shows that the competition in Ligue 1 is only which team will be PSG's competitor with PSG's chances of retaining the title remaining huge, because these teams will have difficulty maintaining their performance in certain periods.
If there are big investors who buy one of the Ligue 1 clubs then that will be the time when PSG's dominance can be broken because money plays a big role in turning an ordinary team into an elite team.
Other clubs struggle to at least maintain their form each season, whereas Paris Saint Germain can do just that. It's because of their financial capabilities that other clubs don't have. The players who are mainstays at other clubs have abilities unlike those of Paris Saint Germain. I don't mean to underestimate the players at all, but surely we agree that the difference in quality of each player will greatly affect the performance of the club itself. The stability of a club is always a decisive factor, because it will greatly affect the match strategy.
Paris Saint Germain is the only club that has everything it needs to navigate the Lga and that will make it easier for them to defend the title this season.
1433  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: December 25, 2023, 01:08:17 PM
Al-Wehda's victory means they are now in 8th position in the standings and succeeded in shifting Al-Ettifaq's position. I think Al-Wehda is indeed capable of doing it because their opponent is Al-Riyadh who are currently at the bottom of the relegation table. Al-Wehda did not hesitate to win with a score of 3-1 in this match and at the same time Al-Riyadh's hopes of getting out of the relegation zone had to be temporarily postponed.

Apart from that, Al-Wehda is now increasingly threatening Al-Ittihad's position and if Al-Wehda wins again in the next match then the points tally for both will be the same as 28 points. But that is if Al-Ittihad loses against Al-Nassr and I think we all know that Al-Ittihad is not promising this season and this possibility will be very profitable for Al-Wehda.
Al Wehda managed to make their guests go home empty-handed and this result was positive for them because they could win the match again after the previous week they had to lose. This is a good result for Al Wehda, but it is a very bitter result for Al Riyadh as they have had another negative result in their last 4 mtches and must be in the relegation zone position now.
The competition at the bottom of the table is also increasingly interesting to watch, because those who are in that position now have a distance that is not too far away and it can change in just one match or two matches. They must fight in the midst of intense competition to keep their position in order to remain in the highest competition in Arabia.
1434  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who among you here is gambling at work? on: December 25, 2023, 12:53:54 PM
Yes, some may think that gambling is work is wrong while others may have a different point of view. I think as long as you can balance between the office work and gambling, and the office work is not compromised because of your gambling, then it may be on to gamble at work.
Yes, now everything is much simpler than before. Every person has a smartphone with Internet access. So what's the problem with spinning slots during your lunch break? Even and not only during vacation. )) But this kind of thing already looks like a gaming addiction. Everyone, of course, makes their own decision.

But why should your work colleagues know about this? There may be some very unpleasant rumors that will reach the authorities. Some companies have a very negative attitude towards such hobbies.

If this is a big deal with the company, this should not be done. Gambling during at work can be easily violated if the company doesn't have the internal control to prevent this from happening. I think they should implement such control effectively since some of their employees might be tempted in gambling. And they can't assume that there employees don't gamble since no one would say they gamble just to be hired for the job, but in reality, they are actually gambling. 

Although we can say that the control is on us employees, but a company has interest to protect, if their people make mistakes in doing their job due to lack of concentration, that will affect the company as a whole, so prevention is always better as the potential problem is already seen.

I think all companies will never allow their employees to do other activities during working hours, let alone being involved in gambling or what I mean by the  activity they do is gambling during working hours, and it is clear that that will cause quite significant problems. Firstly, they lose concentration  on their main job because their minds are diverted to gambling, and secondly, it is very possible that they are not in the mood to continue working when the results of their gambling disappoint them and make them annoyed. Basically, it is difficult to regulate people to follow the rules if it is just a theory, and one thing that companies  can do to minimize this from happening is to implement full supervision while work activities are in progress, or for example installing CCTV in various corners, of course. It can make gamblers not dare to do other activities during working hours, especially gambling.

As I said above, it is difficult to control other people for companies, especially employees who work and you have also said that companies cannot easily assume that all their employees do not gamble, but the possibility is always there. So I think all of this comes back to the strictness with which existing regulations are applied in the company.
1435  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Lack of proper knowledge on casino games increases chance of loss and reduce fun on: December 25, 2023, 12:21:32 PM
Understanding how games work is very important for every game, but there are some which are very evidently dependent on luck and not skill or expertise. Knowing how to navigate such games does not protect one from loss or give an advantage.

I use such games as a fun activity and not as a means of earning through gambling.

- Jay -

True, the first step should be to understand how the game works, because obviously if we are new people who do not know how to start the game or mean not understanding how to play on some games that you are new to then obviously things that can encourage losses are very likely to do, like there is one of my friends who has just gambled on the type of pure luck gambling, he did not understand all the control features in the game, so what happened was that he forgot to set or lower the multiplier in the game so that the money he deposited ran out in just a few minutes.

Of course ignorance and not understanding all the features or displays in the game will make you waste money in vain, and usually it makes you finish the session faster with disappointing results. I think this kind of thing can also make someone more aggressive to continue playing and re-depositing due to unstoppable frustration because of the mistakes he made that made the session run very short, but sometimes it also depends on how the person is dealing with gambling, if he comes only for entertainment then I think it is unlikely to feel significant frustration.
1436  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Should mentally unstable people be allowed to gamble? on: December 25, 2023, 12:02:42 PM
My question now is are there any moral, ethical or legal obligation to bar a person from gambling after physically observing that he is mentally unstable?
I have not seen this in a any terms of service of a casino or other gambling site like bookies. If it is not there, that means it is allowed. But some people will not feel comfortable and will not allow him to gamble. There are situations that people around a mentally unstable person will interact with him and no problem, but there are situations that you can not interact with with such a person.

Right, I think it goes back to the casinos themselves about whether they allow people like that or especially those who look alarming and a little suspicious to get involved in gambling or not, if there is absolutely no regulation then obviously like you said it means it is allowed. But sometimes even if there is no such regulation sometimes some officers are very likely to prohibit it and drive it out, although sometimes we can't judge a person in terms of his appearance but sometimes it doesn't hurt to be suspicious.

Because on the other hand I'm sure the officers' mind is on the comfort of all the patrons there, which is why I think it's possible that some officers will kick him out even though there is basically no rule against it because it's very likely that there will be chaos committed by that person if he really has a mental disorder and obviously it will disturb most of the patrons who are there.
1437  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you think that this is aperfect analogy of how gambling addiction starts? on: December 25, 2023, 11:42:13 AM
If they come with such an approach then obviously I think there is something to be suspicious of, or I mean I should suspect their goals, I am sure that they come  not for fun but only focus on winning, so instead of implementing some precautions but they are busy with finding many ways to get a win. If the involvement  is not too long then I think losing is not the end of the world, or it means that they will not mind the defeat because they still have a great passion for winning, and they will really feel the loss when the defeat really dominates.
If they only focus on winning, they should be prepared to be disappointed because they will see defeats coming more often than wins. Well, they may be able to see the wins coming, but the number is not greater than the losses that come, so they will still experience more and more losses. If they are more busy looking for ways to win, they will not be able to enjoy gambling as entertainment because they are obsessed with winning and it will become a bigger problem if they don't realize it soon. Besides that, their losses will increase the longer they gamble, so if they don't stop immediately, they could really run out of money.

The fact is that in gambling, especially those that rely purely on luck such as slot machines, for example, the more often you are involved in this type of gambling, it is clear that I will agree with your idea that the more losses you will experience, because after all it is very difficult to be able to make the number of wins more than the number of losses if we basically only rely on luck which always cannot be predicted when it comes, And that is why we must always have self-control and some limits when engaging in gambling, none other than because this activity is very involving mentally and psychologically which means that when your mental and psychological disorders due to not being able to accept defeat then obviously then emotions will play a role and finally you do some actions out of control one of which is by putting a larger amount and losing everything.

It is very difficult to deal with gambling as entertainment if they initially come with too much focus on winning, in the end some limits will be forgotten which of course falls further and further into a cycle of addiction that has no limits.
1438  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Which type of gambling have more gambling addicts ? on: December 25, 2023, 11:23:13 AM
Reading about gambling addiction I don't think it's a new topic, but fitting to be in here, I just want to ask: between casino gambling, in-house gambling, and one-on-one gambling with physical players available on the table, which among these is more likely to turn someone into a gambling addict if the person doesn't have self-control in all his gambling activities?
All type of gambling games can be addictive if we can not control our emotion, so it is depending on ourselves. A game can be addictive for some people but it is not for some other people. Simple example, friend of mine is so addicted to lottery game, he buy lottery tickets every day and he spends much money on it every day but this game is not addictive for me since I can feel the fun of the game. So maybe the best answer is when we can feel the fun of the game, it may lead us into addiction because there is higher chance for use to play it again and again.

Well true, basically everything called gambling or betting always holds the possibility of addiction and of course that's exactly what you said for the problem of whether you will be addicted or not to the type of gambling you do it all comes back to yourself about how you react to it, in my opinion usually those who often end up with addiction are those who are too overly hopeful and also who do not really understand the basic concept of randomness that exists in gambling, especially for answers in the final results.

Yes, excitement can make someone forget to go home, like the type of game that is encouraged by the opportunity to win, it will clearly end in addiction, sometimes in ordinary games it is often addicted like games that are popular but there is no risk and no chance of winning anything, there are also some of my friends who are addicted to the game but yes not in the type of game in the casino but only ordinary games that refer to excitement and without the risk of losing money or without any chance of getting money. Games like that alone can make someone addicted, let alone gambling which involves winning opportunities which are usually the main focus of the people involved.
1439  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: December 24, 2023, 04:51:46 PM

In fact, this star player's ego problem occurred when Real Madrid built the first generation of Los Galacticos where they brought in many world class stars in the hope that they would become a very strong team. But in reality it's not like that. Lots of star players means there will be lots of egos for the coach to manage. And I see that PSG seems to be experiencing the same thing. I agree that there are no players as great as Mbappe there, but other star players will of course cause jealousy among the players.
The team's special treatment towards Mbappe which was too excessive of course made the other players not like this.
I think PSG is too eager to keep Mbappe so they will do everything they can and that is a big mistake, in a football team it is not just one player who is able to change the situation but there must be chemistry between players in all lines to be able to carry out a team performance the good one.

Real Madrid is different now, they are the best team in the world and they have never placed any top players beyond the size of their team so star players would prefer to play for Real Madrid because this team is more than anything.
Yes, Mbappe is getting too much treatment and it is causing problems not only for the player, but also for the club itself. I totally understand that when they want to keep a player, they will do everything they can, but what Paris Saint Germain have done this time is beyond the limit, and it makes the player become arrogant.
Mbape himself is actually now more able to control himself and that must be done. Because if he leaves Paris Saint Germain still carrying his attitude then it could be something bad for him too. For example, when he has a strict coach, it will endanger his own position because the coach may dare to make him only on the bench.
1440  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: December 24, 2023, 04:36:35 PM
AS Roma still have the same problem every season, this season too they don't seem to have changed much from the previous season. Yes they are inconsistent and it is very difficult to create that consistency. It's not too bad, but it's not enough to bring them into the tight competition for the Scudetto title. To be in the top 4 alone seems like they will struggle with their current performance. Unless they can improve it in the second round later.
One of the problems they have is the defense that is still easy to be penetrated by opponents, and that makes it dificult for them to win every match. 8 wins, 4 draws and 5 defeats is something that is not satisfactory.
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