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1281  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: January 06, 2024, 01:13:28 PM
Exactly, Manchester City is not an appropriate opponent for Copenhagen especially now that Manchester City will played with a full squad because Kevin de Bruyne has recovered from injury so we will see a different game from Manchester City or we can call it Real Manchester City and I will say it's an easy win for Manchester City. This match will be played in February and there are still many moments to be passed but if Manchester City plays with the main squad then it doesn't have a way for Copenhagen to get points/win.
Copenhagen is not a tough opponent for Manchester City, but it is also very important not to underestimate any opponent when any team starts competing again in the Champions League. Because here all teams will use any strategy to win and those who underestimate their opponents will usually not get anything, so it is very important for Manchester City to play well even though their opponent is Copenhagen because from that opponent Manchester City can advance to the next round. if you are able to win with a good enough score.
The club that appeared in the final last season and was defeated by Manchester City will face Atletico Madrid in the round of 16. Overall, Inter Milan's performance is actually more convincing this season than last season, so they deserve to be a strong candidate in the Chmpions League this season.
This season they have only received one defeat in Serie A, while in the Champions League they escaped without tasting defeat. With statistics like that they show an increase in performance and that is good news for the competition in the Champions League. In recent seasons, clubs from England and Spain have been the dominating clubs in the Champions League, while Serie A clubs have not been able to show strong competition. But now they are slowly showing something positive again.
1282  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: January 06, 2024, 12:55:45 PM

Yes 7 points does not seem like a huge difference, but the problem is how confident are the 2 teams above going to have bad results repeatedly? with a difference of 7 points at least 2 defeats must be received by Real Madrid or Girona and also forget that they cannot lose points, even if it is a draw. It's a tough one, because they're not relying on themselves, but they're relying on the other teams above them. When fate is in someone else's hands I think the only thing that can make it change is that they have to have a lot of luck.

It would be easier if only one team had a seven-point advantage over Barcelona, but if these are two teams, then it’s hard to believe that they will start losing points and Barcelona will win the remaining matches. I assume that further struggle will break out between Real and Girona, and for Barcelona, no matter how it sounds, the title race this season is over. Of course, Xavi will continue to try to overtake these teams, but I think that they will not be able to do this.
The same thing that I think, because if one of the two clubs declines, then there is still one other club that is above them. Let's speculate, Girona for example went down towards the end of the season and they lost a lot of games, but Real Madrid? I'm not so sure they'll go down significantly, although it could happen. And vice versa, if Real Madrid do go down, then Girona will be the one club still above them.
I agree that it's going to take some luck, because they're not the only ones in control of their situation, there are other clubs that will be in control of whether they catch up or not.
But I don't think they should focus on that, whatever the result is for other clubs they have to focus on themselves, especially now that their problems are not just that.
1283  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: January 06, 2024, 12:37:43 PM
Inter Milan will win against Hellas Verona in both the first half and second half. Inter Milan will want to return to winning ways after playing a draw match with Genoa and extend their lead at the top of the Serie A table. Hellas Verona will not be a tough opponent for Inter Milan because they have lost 4 of their last 8 matches in the Serie A league, even losing to Salernitana at home.
Inter Milan managed to control the first half with a 1-0 win, this result is very good for Inter who are chasing victory to keep their distance from Juventus who are in second place. The second half will make it easier for Inter to control the match, perhaps additional goals will occur over the next 45 minutes. This match will be easy for Inter because Verona's quality is not comparable to theirs. This victory is very important for Inter to reorganize their plans after losing two points in the previous match.
The second half started and they started the half with a 1-goal lead. But looking at the first half, I'm a bit surprised that Verona were able to keep up with Inter Milan, despite the goal but overall they played quite well.
Inter Milan will have to be careful, as the threat is clear given the visitors' first half performance. A 1-goal lead is not safe enough for them, especially since there is still enough time left to surprise in this match.
Despite coming from the relegation board, Verona looks more excited to be able to bring home at least 1 point from this match. And if Inter Milan make a lot of mistakes then Verona can just realize their wishes.
1284  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: January 06, 2024, 12:25:33 PM
Chelsea will host Fulham in the next match, will they be able to get through this week with a win and continue their previous 2 wins? or will they get another disappointing result by being defeated by Fulham?
It will be interesting to see how they will play in this mtch, because although Fulham are still below them, it does not mean that Fulham cannot beat them, especially with the inconsstent performance they often show.
This is not an easy job for the coach, because he is still required to give Chelsea the best. But the problem of problems in the game they often feel, including mistakes that should not happen they still often do.
1285  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: January 05, 2024, 07:11:06 PM
Honestly, although Manchester United will act as the host, but I doubt they will be able to provide something that will satisfy their own supporters, so Tottenham is very likely to record another victory in this match. Currently Tottenham continues to overshadow 5th place and they are waiting for the moment to return to the top 4, so they must maximize this match by winning 3 points.
Manchester United themselves have just suffered a defeat in the previous week and recorded they have pocketed 3 defeats from the last 5 matches they played. I'm not sure about Erik Ten Hag in this match, I'm not underestimating him but with the record he got during this season makes doubts about him grow again.
I understand that lately Manchester United often suffered defeat but the defeat when playing away while when playing at home they can be relied upon that's why I say sometimes Manchester United can surprise to away team, I still remember how Manchester United made a comeback against Aston Villa no one thought when they were 2 goals behind but in the end Manchester won 3-2 and we know that Tottenham is at the same level as Aston Villa so there is a chance for Manchester United to repeat it again. My prediction is not only based on feeling but also based on the betting market because until now Manchester is still favored by the market.

Manchester United's performances have been erratic but they have a strong squad. And if the players in the squad are confident and play well, Manchester United have the ability to win against any team.

Manchester United's performance in home matches is comparatively better. Manchester United have achieved 18 points in 10 home matches and 13 points in 10 away matches. Manchester United will play at home against Tottenham in the next match. With United performing the way they are now, their chances of winning against Tottenham are slim. Even then I wouldn't bet on this match, because Manchester United can surprise everyone and win at any time.
Every time they play, they are unpredictable, sometimes playing a good game, sometimes they are not reliable at all. I personally would strongly avoid betting on when they play, yes at least that's for now when their performance is not predictable at all. Many times when I bet on multibet they always fail me, either because they win, or because they lose.
I miss the Manchester United of old during their golden days, especially when Ferguson was still their coach. I wonder if their golden age will be repeated or not, even if it will be repeated it seems like it will take a very long time to see them become a scary club in the Premier League or in Europe.
1286  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: January 05, 2024, 06:54:12 PM
But despite having no experience at all in the German league. until now, Harry Kane is still the top scorer in the German league.
That shows the quality of Harry Kane can play anywhere and in any competition. It doesn't take long to adapt to the new team's game and the new competition in the German league.
The way each player adapts to a new team and new playing patterns in different leagues is always different from one player to another. Because everyone who has seen how Harry Kane adapts to the Bundesliga is quite accurate clear evidence that players like Harry Kane are quite experienced players in football. So it's not that difficult for him to adapt when he is in a new team like now and I also think that Harry Kane will be able to maintain his top scoring performance until the end of the season in the Bundesliga.
For now Kane can show that he is a quality player who is not only good at playing at one club, but when he has a new club he can quickly adapt and influence in his new club. Actually this can be said to be an advantage or a challenge for him, because being at Bayern Munich on the one hand this is a big club that has quality, but on the other hand when he can't play well then it will be very visible because of course people will see how players who were in his position before and it is inevitable that people will definitely compare it, especially with Lewandowski who we know he is a very good player at Bayern Munich. This has been felt by a Sadio Mane who is considered a failure to be able to occupy the attack line. Kane came and replaced him and he was able to show that Bayern Munich were not wrong to sign him.
1287  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: January 05, 2024, 06:39:50 PM
The main problem Cristiano is having is the problem of not becoming champion in the arab league, so he need to win the trophy to become more important in that land.

And this year dont seem to be the one in wich he can be champion, at least until now with this Al hilal team in such good shape.

Without even pressuring him, Cristiano Ronaldo is one footballer that loves winning as many titles as possible and that's why his biggest aim this season as Al Nassr player is to win the Saudi Pro League title. He finished last year as the highest goalscorer in world football and is currently topping the chart for the top scorer of the Saudi Pro League with 20 goals and that's why I don't think personal accolades isn't his priority at the moment.

His club Al Nassr are currently trailing league leaders Al Hilal by seven points making it difficult for them to catch with the league leaders but if they can continue with their current performance and Al Hilal drops points, the there's every possiblity of seeing Al Nassr win the Saudi Pro League title this season.
In this case we cannot see only Cristiano Ronaldo, because they play as a team not as individuals, and it must be admitted that at this time Al Hilal is better than Al Nassr. Indeed, in all competitions we know what Ronaldo's ambition is, yes he always has a very high desire to get a title, both individually and as a team. Al Nassr had to slip a few times so they fell behind Al Hilal, and we cannot blame Ronaldo in this case.
Now their gap with Al Hilal is 7 points, with Al Hilal's form being very difficult to beat it is not an easy job for Al Nassr to catch up with Al Hilal. One way for them to get closer is to beat Al Hilal in their meeting later. Al Nassr's first meeting had to recognize Al Hilal's superiority, it must not be repeated. Their own meeting is scheduled for quite a long time, Al Nassr can only hope that their competitors slip in the matches they play.
1288  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: January 05, 2024, 06:24:15 PM
In today's match Las Palmas vs Barcelona two teams came to the field to play in the Spanish League. Barcelona team won the match by scoring 2 goals in today's match. I placed a bet in support of Barcelona team in today's match. I won the bet in today's match because Barcelona team played very well. But the game started.  Palmas player scored the first goal in the first 12 minutes. On the other hand, Barcelona team player F. Torres scored the first goal in the 55th minute. İ.  Gündoğan scored the 2nd goal at 90+3 minutes.
Barcelona were very lucky in this match, as they were awarded a late penalty which saved them from an unsatisfactory draw. Las Palmas were very troublesome for Barcelona, even they could maintain the score until the end of the first half. But in the second half Barcelona were able to score a goal and make the score even. I thought they were going to draw for the 6th time after so litle time left they were still drawing. But the chance came, and Ilkay Gundogan who stepped up as the executioner did a great job.
They've been going downhill lately, Xavi hernandez needs to find a solution to get them back on track sooner rather than later. Time is running out and if they can't improve their perfrmance then they won't be able to catch the 2 clubs that are above them by 7 points.
1289  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: January 05, 2024, 06:06:19 PM
It's a big lose if Giroud joining Inter Miami because this team only for ex-Messi's teammates, while Giroud haven't joined a team where Messi was playing. He will get discriminated by many players if he join this team.

He has many choices, he can join Ligue 2 or Saudi Pro League, don't join MLS where the league is small and no one watch it.

It's unlikely Giroud will move to the Arab League, he never seemed to like that. Giroud is a player who has played with many big teams such as Arsenal and Chelsea, so it's no wonder why he is still being targeted by many big clubs outside Europe. Talking about Inter Miami, the news has been that since 202, Inter Miami has persuaded Giroud to join the team but the deal never happened because Giroud still prefers to play in Europe, it is very likely that if Giroud doesn't extend his contract then he will go to Inter Miami

Although he personally dislikes and has no intention of playing in the SPL, if a big offer comes his way I think it could sway him to join one of the clubs in the SPL. Money is now one of the main attractions for players, especially now that he is old and it could be an opportunity for him to get a lot of money before he decides to retire. I haven't heard anything specific about Inter Miami and Giroud, but it looks like they're struggling to sign Giroud.
Although he is still playing well for now, but I don't think it will last long considering his age. And it's perfectly legitimate if he starts thinking about money before he retires as I said before. Because now the SPL is one of the options for players to earn some money.
1290  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: January 05, 2024, 05:51:31 PM
There is only one game in Italy Serie A. Bologna will play at home against Genoa. Bologna have a great performance under Thiago Motta. After 18 weeks they have only 3 defeats. They have a chance to finish among the top 4 teams in the league this season. On the other hand, Genoa are a few points above the relegation zone. But they have had good results in recent weeks. We can say that they are in good form in terms of performance. I see Bologna as the favorites to win this match, but I will bet on both teams to score.
Yes Bologna will be the favorite in this match, there are many factors that make them like that, one of which is their good appearance and also they will play at home. But they must remain cautious of Genoa, because Genoa themselves have just unexpectedly drawn the current leaders, Inter Milan.
Bologna has the opportunity to be able to shift Fiorentina in the standings if they can win this match, yes at least they will be able to be ranked 4th before Fiorentina plays their match. Fiorentina are scheduled to meet Sassuolo, which we see from the standings they should be able to win the match too.
Bologna must be able to take advantage of Genoa's fragile back line to steal goals and ensure victory.
1291  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: January 05, 2024, 05:25:24 PM
In the first theory, Mbappe is a great player losing this player can damage the team in PSG as you said and this would be so hard for this team to find a replacement for Mbappe in PSG there is no team they want to lose a player in the level of Mbappe easily and I think PSG can't find alternative players in this team among younger players if they lose Mbappe.
But on the other hand, we can't forget what happened in Tottenham when they let Harry Kane leave the team, this team was not damaged but they even got stronger than before.
I think so too, especially now that PSG is exaggerating Mbappe's presence so much that other players are covered up even though basically a team's performance depends on the performance of all players in all lines, not just one player.
As an individual, Mbappe is quite great and I think for now he is one of the best players in the world, but for PSG I believe they would be better off losing Mbappe so they can build this team with a strong foundation and also all lines with the same quality of players so that it can lift team performance as happened to the Tottenham team.
You are right, individually Mbappe is a great player, but in football what is needed is team play and not just focusing on one player. Indeed, the presence of an above-average player would be an advantage for a club, but it should not lose sight of what it should be, which is team play. When they still have 3 star players they still can't do anything at the European level, it proves the presence of star players does not guarantee success for a club.
They can still be a giant club without star players, with a note that they must have evenly distributed players on each line who can work together with good chemistry. I personally if faced with 2 choices between having their squad with good team play and a squad that has several star players, I would prefer to have an evenly distributed squad that can play good cooperation.
1292  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: January 05, 2024, 05:15:12 PM

Well, when he says that then he knows what he is talking about. I think Ancelotti is aware about how long it will takes for his injured players to come back to training and to the fields and he knows that he has other temporary options. Additionally getting another defender, means more money to spend for a player to stay in the benches. I think Ancelotti needs to focus more on an attacker and maybe midfield for the long term. For short terms, he might get a defender with a short loan contract rather than signing him a couple of years one?
Ancelotti is an experienced coach and he understands that there is no point in him considering any short-term contracts for the players, since he is building a fundamental team for many years. And the fact that he expressed a desire to stay in the team and extended his contract until 2026 shows how much he enjoys working here. Moreover, I read that he says that he would like to stay in Real Madrid after 2026, and in this case you understand how much he can plan, how global his vision for the team is. He doesn't look one year ahead and is therefore only interested in long-term contracts for players and the team.
I think bringing in players on loan or short-term contracts at least until this season ends is one option that can be done, the article to find players intended for the long term will be more difficult because it needs to be careful in seeing the potential of the player. I also heard he wanted Varane to be part of Real Madrid again to cover the defensive shortcomings. And if you look at Varane's current age it is more appropriate for him to get a short-term contract or at least be borrowed from Manchester United.
Real Madrid are currently transitioning to regenerate their players and for now it is going quite well. By combining senior players and young players it is a very wise decision taken by Real Madrid.
1293  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: January 05, 2024, 04:57:23 PM
Now, precisely this season, Alonso will also lead the team he is currently coaching to win the European League title in addition to his own domestic league. Because the team managed by Alonso currently, namely Leverkusen, has also experienced increased performance in the domestic league and also has the potential to become the best in the European League this season if Leverkusen is able to compete with other big teams such as Liverpool and also several other teams.

Yep Xabi has an impressive record, after 40 years Sociedad B team able to promote to the segunda division under Xabi.
Leverkusen is on the right track to win the Bundesliga, Europa Lague and DFB Pokal with 26 unbeaten games in this season with only 3 draws.
Im sure we will see Leverkusen in the EL final.
Xabi has caught the attention of many with his impressive performances at the helm of Leverkusen, he can showcase the strategies that can bring his club to the fore at the moment. In the Bundesliga they have been impressive, and in the Europa League, they have been the same, in fact, they are probably the only unbeaten club in two different competitions, the Bundesliga and the Europa League.
I am sure he will be a coach that big clubs will fight for, even recently he was rumored to be close to Real Madrid before Ancelotti was confirmed to have made a new contract with Real Madrid.
If he can bring Leverkusen to win the Bundesliga or the Europa League, his name will be even more fragrant and he will get a lot of praise from many people. Yes, I think he deserves it as an appreciation for what he has shown.
1294  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: January 05, 2024, 04:39:29 PM
I have seen this from the previous few weeks and it is clear that Tottenham's performance is improving and I believe that they have recovered now.
If Tottenham are successful in maintaining their performance like this then it is not only possible for them to get a top 4 position, but they have quite a big potential to compete again in the race for the Premier League title this season. Tottenham has the strength, they just need to maintain their consistency.

Slowly Tottenham found their best game previously they managed to record several consecutive wins before finally being stopped by Brighton but overall Tottenham can still be relied on to compete in the top 4 and I don't think they are fighting for the top of the standings. Tottenham's next opponent is Manchester United I wouldn't say this is an easy match for Tottenham even though Manchester United has been playing badly lately but sometimes they can surprise any team when playing at home so for this match I think the two teams will play a draw.
Honestly, although Manchester United will act as the host, but I doubt they will be able to provide something that will satisfy their own supporters, so Tottenham is very likely to record another victory in this match. Currently Tottenham continues to overshadow 5th place and they are waiting for the moment to return to the top 4, so they must maximize this match by winning 3 points.
Manchester United themselves have just suffered a defeat in the previous week and recorded they have pocketed 3 defeats from the last 5 matches they played. I'm not sure about Erik Ten Hag in this match, I'm not underestimating him but with the record he got during this season makes doubts about him grow again.
1295  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Im looking for funded traders to trade with my capital on: January 05, 2024, 10:01:49 AM
Honestly I don't know what exactly is the purpose of the OP looking for someone to fund, if we look from the other side you said that you know how to trade and have funds to trade and that means why not do it yourself my friend? because obviously by doing it yourself all the decisions are in your hands and maybe you have a much better planning and risk management than other people who are not clear whether they have better skills and knowledge than you or not and with that then at least you can minimize the amount of loss, be careful because there are not a few cases that occur in scenarios like this, many say that they seem experienced but in the end disappear and carry some funding money.

I don't know what the purpose is but it seems like you are looking for traders who are much better than you, like riding on other people's knowledge and skills to benefit from percentage sharing when you yourself can do it and don't need to share profits with others when everything goes well, and obviously I think there is an element of suspicion in this even though it is still just speculation. So the bottom line in my opinion is that if you really have good enough skills and have the strength in terms of finance then it is better to do it yourself, it is not easy to get a partner who can really be trusted.
1296  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does the tension make you take risk that are sometimes worth it? on: January 05, 2024, 08:57:41 AM
Yes it is true, but on the other hand lately I see more people who suffer a lot of losses than those who have full responsibility and also with the right understanding, most of a person's point of view on gambling is a "earning place" mindset that usually happens when they manage to get their first win which makes them get an extraordinary sensation which also of course ends up thinking of using gambling for income, obviously that is the wrong mindset but one of the reasons why I said the previous thing is because more gamblers are come with  a wrong mindset and point of view compared to those who come using common sense.
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Common sense is not so used in gambling if they are just new players who only come in with the expectation of big profits.
There is only the thought of betting with a lot of money and winning with a lot of profit.
But in the end everything turned 180 degrees, who originally hoped to get many victories but had to accept many defeats.

Treat gambling like gambling and don't treat it as a search currency, because we don't know what will happen later.
Gambling is better used as entertainment, because winnings will not always come.

Yes "common sense" I mean those who come with a rational mindset, but most of those who come are like you said, many new players who come with the aim of looking for big profits, I don't know what reasons they bring but what is certain is that in my opinion they come because they have seen some information from other people who have managed to get a big win, whether it's one of their friends or maybe a show on one of the social media so that their main focus is only on winning by ignoring the risk of losing which is clear in fact the percentage is much greater.

Exactly, gambling is a gamble which is nothing more than a game of probability about winning and losing, but unfortunately as the topic at the beginning that people, especially beginners, are more focused on winning because that is more prominent in gambling when people show off their winnings which can indirectly motivate others, instead of getting income for living needs but what happens instead is 180 degrees as you said, suffering the number of defeats is a sure thing.

I'm in an environment where maybe some people do online gambling on mobile phones, and some of them make gambling a place to expect a lot of big profits.
But in the end they claim to get big losses and have a lot of debt because of gambling that does not have any management.

I think lately online gambling has become more and more widespread and like it has become common, or maybe some people who are usually involved in physical casinos switch to online casinos because of the ease of access anywhere and anytime, in my own neighborhood it's the same as yours where almost all gamblers are more often involved in online casinos via cellphones, And even though they for example do not admit that they lost a lot of money but honestly from a distance we can already see the suffering, there is one of my neighbors who even ran out of all his assets, from selling vehicles to selling land just to pay debts, even though he never published it but most of the neighbors already know because they see his life now and as you said that they are one of the gamblers who do not have any management.
1297  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Rich, average or poor. Who loses more? on: January 05, 2024, 08:36:21 AM
In financial matters and financial management to stay in a better balance is not to get involved in any gambling even if you are rich and have a lot of money to gamble and especially if you are poor which means that losing will be a very detrimental thing because of the limited money they have so of course it will be a problem with their financial balance, on the other hand we have discussed the focal point of the difference between rich and poor people in terms of financial strength, and also of course for the problem of the risk of losing everyone whether rich or poor will still lose an unknowable amount but certainly if you are too excessive then obviously the amount of defeat will definitely be large.

Now however that is the most important thing, self-control, some limits and also by limiting expectations are things that must be maintained and applied when we are gambling, on the other hand it still cannot completely prevent you from the risk of losing but at least with it then you will not run out of a lot of money, simply put the rich can become bankrupt and the poor get poorer.
That is why those who gamble with a lot of money are likely to experience more losses than those who can limit their gambling activities because they want to chase wins or under the pretext of wanting to get more pleasure. They don't think about reducing the amount of money, especially when they have experienced a lot of losses, but instead increase the amount of money even more. They, whether rich or poor, only see the chance of winning they can get from gambling, which attracts them to gamble longer. By increasing the amount of money, they also increase the risk of losing it even more and when they gamble excessively, they must be prepared for future losses rather than winning.

However, if they can limit their gambling activities and control themselves well while gambling, they will know that when gambling, they must always try to avoid losing. Many people have experienced a lot of defeat so we really have to be able to avoid it and don't have to experience the same thing as them.

And we can conclude that people who have the possibility or potential to lose a lot of money are those rich people who cannot maintain their gambling involvement properly so that it is clear to lose a lot of money that can even make them bankrupt, yes that's right it is not uncommon to also see some of them who act excessively with the excuse of looking for more fun haha obviously absurd and what is certain is that victory is their main focus so that they act excessively. The inability to accept the real facts (defeat) caused by not understanding the basic concepts that exist in gambling makes them instead act out of control by always chasing wins to break even, will it work? maybe it can, but it is very unlikely and more cannot stand all the pressure that is there so it is not uncommon to see some of the gamblers who end up stressed or depressed.

So from the discussion that we have discussed here, to be honest, in my opinion, the conclusion is that rich, middle class or poor cannot be used as a benchmark for who wins more and who loses more, and the point is that if you overdo it then obviously you will lose more and if you are able to maintain your gambling by always applying self-control and limits as you mentioned then obviously the amount of risk will be slightly minimized.
1298  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you care about what people say about you gambling? on: January 05, 2024, 07:56:11 AM
This now triggered me to come ask here whether you cares about what people says or sees you as when gambling, I know there are people who don't know you from time or who doesn't believe that you are a gambler and if it happens that you came across such people and their reaction towards you goes other way round would you care about it or you just totally ignore them?

Let's discuss amicably
If you are very disturbed or care about what other people say about your gambling then you will also be disturbed by what other people say about other things, and that shouldn't happen because even though gambling is always associated with bad things, we ourselves understand this games and how much money and the impact it has on us, if everything is still within normal limits then what other people say should not have an impact unless we realize that some of our gambling activities have exceeded our limits, such as starting to get into debt because we want to gamble or take too long spend time gambling.

Yes of course that's better, on the other hand as we know that in general the public's view on gambling is very negative and with that then obviously it is possible that maybe people in your neighborhood who don't know anything about gambling will assume that you have a bad personality by getting involved in gambling, and obviously usually the talk of the community will spread very quickly so it is very likely that you will be seen as an outcast or not cared for by the people around or even considered as a person who has the potential to fall into financial problems.

So of course I also have the same habits as you, we are both gamblers and I also always keep my gambling activities secret from others except for one of my friends who is also a gambler. I think basically even if you don't harm others for example by asking others for money to gamble but still they will have a bad point of view on you if you deliberately publicize your gambling activities. Therefore, it is obviously better to keep your gambling activities private, but also to remain firm on your control and limits because that will be able to keep us from falling into financial problems later, and just for fun and to fill the time.
1299  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you believe in gambling experts predictions? on: January 05, 2024, 06:57:01 AM
A gambling expert brought i and some friends a guaranteed predicted game and asked us to stake a a high amount so that we winning could be huge and so we can give him a percentage of the money at winning.

There are really people who are knowledgeable on a said specific game and because of that, they were able to create a good set of predictions. Please focus on the word prediction, meaning it's not the thing that will exactly happened. If these predictions were hit by some people, then it's up to you to follow them or not.

Besides, it's not comfortable to me to follow even a professional tipster as long as I have knowledge too on that game. More importantly, I don't jump to other sports that I'm not familiar with even with the guidance from a good sports tipsters.

Yes, there's no denying it and it's possible that what you're saying is true, I understand what you mean about gamblers having extensive knowledge in several games, honestly for that matter I might agree because the more you play the more you will be able to adapt to the game, but honestly it's nothing more than a  basic thing that if everyone does the same thing then they will also have such knowledge, it's not at all related to the name "increasing luck/winning", if you say that they can make good predictions then I would ask what do you mean by "good"? the assumption from your statement is a little bit of a certainty about the end result.

For myself, I honestly prefer  to gamble on my own merits, no matter how many winners there are out there, so I'm going to stick to my stance and understanding that gambling is just an activity to fill my empty time at the weekend that will trigger a little adrenaline, not focus on the final result and only focus on the limits that I have made before.
1300  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: January 04, 2024, 06:10:45 PM
Yes, we must first wait for the Europa League to resume after completing the grueling group stages. I think speculation about surprises is valid as long as you don't say for sure things that haven't been played yet. Now many people also expect Leverkusen and Liverpool to face each other in the final, it's just an expectation based on their performances during the Europa League, especially in the group stages.
We will still have the play offs before the last 16 is played, and the play offs are also likely to be a surprise. There are still many big clubs that will play there, and not to forget there are some clubs from the Champions League that will also play there. From the Champions League itself there are several clubs that are superior like AC Milan that we cannot forget.

Awaiting any two teams to be up against each other in the Europa League final is dumb because nobody can predict whether they will be eliminated before the final and nobody can predict whether they will eliminate each other before the final. As if anyone had an idea what the draw for the quarterfinals and semifinals will look like. There is no point in speculating about the two clubs that may reach the final.

I don't know if I get the statistics right here so feel free to correct me, but the chance that Liverpool plays against Leverkusen in the quarterfinal is around 14% (assuming they both get there) and the chance that they meet in the semifinal is 33% (assuming they both get there). This means we have a chance of 86% * 67% = 58% that they both play the final if they make it there. Of that 58% chance you can deduct the probability that they get eliminated by some other team and then you will probably end up somewhere around 10 - 15% at best. 
I don't think it's stupid, because it's legitimate to predict that, as I said before. What's stupid is when we say with certainty they will face each other in the final.
Of course anything can happen here, because we can't underestimate other clubs, it could be that a club that is not part of our prediction will make the club we predicted eliminated early.
Last season many people predicted that Arsenal would be in the final, yes it was not wrong because their appearance at the beginning was so promising before finally they also lost and were eliminated early.
We also predict things based on the statistics that the club is currently showing and that's pretty basic, regardless of whether they are eliminated or not that we can only see when they play their matches.
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