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1901  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Everyone looses in the long run on: January 22, 2017, 05:01:09 PM
I tend to agree that you will eventually lose in gambling always. It's better to just gamble for entertainment rather than to make money.
yeah actually it has proven by a lot of research about how much chance a player can win against house edge? the answer was below 1 percent or so. pretty clear i guess for everyone to avoid gambling for making profit . do it for entertainment purpose only , it wouldn't be a matter at all even you always lost.
1902  Economy / Economics / Re: What is the best way to invest/grow your Bitcoins? on: January 20, 2017, 10:43:33 AM
For me better convert your fiat money to bitcoin it is the safest way of investment I guess and you have the control on when will you going to withdraw your money in case of crashing again of value.
But then if you trusted any investment group why not, they have your trust just be prepared of the possible things to happen.
So you prefer to just holding bitcoin right? Without doing anything, just storing value untill the right time you really need it and convert back to fiat. Well everyone have different way to thinking about growing money through a lot of ways, since solo mining nowadays aaren't profitable anymore i would suggest to try joining some legit ICO.
1903  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you use analysis when play gambling? on: January 20, 2017, 10:27:04 AM
Yes ,it is needed especially in sportsbetting games that you need to analyze the plays on both team and who have an advantage to win .Poker also skills and analysis to win in a game and some of the other games are based on your luck .


Analysis give better insights about the event and suitable bet options to use. Luck is also needed because no matter how long you take to analyse a game, You'll be disappointed when it Still get lost. I remember playing two copies. One was fully analyzed (2hrs+ spent for analysis)  and the second copy, I played it quicky due to the little time left before the sportbet event starts. So I played the second copy with out any analysis of some sort. At the end, Only the second copy won. I'm not saying analysis aren't important/effective but Luck is also needed
Say that an analysis just a way to boost your chance to win in certain event , i wouldn't consider luck based games could work to be analyzed. And yeah no matter how expert you are in analyzing stats in gambling in the end luck are the last and most important touch that take part in determine your bet.
1904  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin Really The Future Of Money? on: January 20, 2017, 10:13:59 AM
I look forward to the day where i can swipe to pay for goods at my local store with the bitcoin wallet in my phone.

The right time will come, let's be patient and wait for it. The development is continuing but if you are in a hurry, there is always a solution on your needs. Just fund a debit card with your bitcoin and you can swipe on your local stores, however there's a little fee associated with it.
Hopefully that right time will be happening so soon,I just have to earned more in order for me to have my debit card,its not yet enough,still it is debit card using bitcoin still not acceptable in my country.If mass adoption will continue and the demand kept on rising then i can see that it will be the future of money.
Actually there is a stores and some coffee shops accept bitcoin already here around my place , but it's still based on person to person , i mean there is no sign in the store that they are accepting bitcoin , but if you want to pay with bitcoin just tell them. Once a lot of real world store accept bitcoin openly , the future of money are near.
1905  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Do you always missed the right time to sell/buy bitcoin? on: January 20, 2017, 10:00:53 AM
I have missed quite a lot but now I have made up my mind that any time I can afford btc, I will buy irrespective of the price and the right time to sell is when I am comfortable with the profit that is coming irrespective if how high the price will go so far I am ok with what I have currently, I am selling. The bad experience I had was not even with btc but an alt thinking the price will rise but I was really disappointed when it was talking a reverse gear and I lost about 90% of what I would have made earlier.

Yeah i have same point with you about alt coin price. Bitcoin tend to have more stable prices than other alternatives coins. So if the Bitcoin price down it will not make us too lose. But unlike the alternative alternative coin coin can come down to 30% or 50% if there are bad events. I ever loss in eth my coin while it drop until 50%.
For long term investment, you will have to go with bitcoin. But if you really want to earn in a short period of time, make sure you keep eye on the market of bitcoin regularly, when the price drop, jump automatically to altcoins, they have an opposite results.
Not always but mostly yeah altcoins always against bitcoin price , just take a look to dogecoin when the bitcoin price still around $500 dogecoin are worth around 50 satoshi but when bitcoin price go up to $1000 then dogecoin dropped half price to around 25 satoshi , it's simply pattern but as i said it's not always happened like that.
1906  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Dice Game , Work the longest without loss ? With which strategy ? on: January 20, 2017, 09:54:21 AM
It will take time to figure out, but i think, luck will stop the strategy tho.

There's a strategy i use in almost 1 year ago

x1.8 or x1.9
51.x% win rate
Increase by 220% when lose.
Switch(Big/Small) when Lose

It is able to run for almost 2-3 days and it crashed.

The next moment i run, when i just woke up, lost 14- 15 streak at 51%

Nothing new with any martingale modification strategy everyone would know that it's useles won't work. The only thing can change the outcome are your own luck , since there is no way ton find out when and where is your luck would come to you , so just make a random bet in dice , don't get yourself in complicated things.
1907  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin can not replace fiat on: January 20, 2017, 09:43:36 AM
An option sounds better than replacing it. Still the easiest way to transact is thru a physical money. Think about the places where there are markets everywhere. I mean like China where they have street foods. How can you pay up so fast with opening your bitcoin account in your phone then password then more. This will take a while and will make a long queue on the line.
Yeah but when the world transform to a digital era where physical money aren't as popular as digital money like bitcoin would make fiat eliminated slowly, i believe it could happened someday but not now not in the near future. An option for online transaction beside fiat is happening right now by the way.
1908  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you can control your self when playing gambling? on: January 20, 2017, 09:31:44 AM
I can't control it, i always greedy to get more and more but bad luck always busted and get empty balance
Whereas i have planning to control and want to win small amount, control our emotional at gambling site is very difficult
Then don't deposit big amount or quit gambling if you cannot do that, it's not for all dude especially if you have a problem with controlling yourself. It's the only way to be safe, safe from losing more than what we can afford to lose, so as a responsible gambler you must learn that.
nothing wrong with gambling itself actually if you can treat it properly. i mean to make gambling as a way to have fun , get an exclusive entertainment . not to earn money which impossible to do that as our human nature always greedy no matter you won and especially when you lost you would just go mad gambling uncontrolled.
Greediness is really part of human nature as you said that's why people do always have aims on making money on playing gambling that's why they made wrong decisions while they are playing.Gambling should really be treated as an entertainment and not used or treat as money making because this is impossible to happen.Self control is a huge advantage to avoid addiction and play even more.
There is a greedy there is no control over yourself , so you have to cope with your greedy at first then you are good to go to conquering the whole casino room , handle every situation you face and in then end walk away full of smile with a lot of additional digits in your bank account.
1909  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What would happen if BTC was Banned? on: January 20, 2017, 09:19:53 AM
As anything banned, such as drugs or alcohol during the Prohibition, the price will rise a lot, and that will attract criminals. Not However not very sure how criminals could conduct a Bitcoin traffic as they do with drugs, but there will be definitively an action from their side.

i don't think so, even if bitcoin is banned you can still use it easily, no government will ever check if you are sending a transaction abroad to your friend or family

also bitcoin will continue to work on many other country, banning it in one country will not make any difference,

unless those that are in that country hold a very high amount and are in any way unable to use them, which mean that those coin are kinda like lost coins
the worst scenario are when most countries around the world agree to fight bitcoin together and banned globally which i think it's almost impossible to be happened isn't it? there wouldn't be a significant effect to bitcoin user even china previously have been declared that they are not supporting bitcoin and ban to whoever use bitcoin , but hey look now they are leading in bitcoin development.

Same as China before certain time period Russia banned bitcoin into the country and now it has taken back the ban. They have planned to make it supportive for their financial system through the Blockchain technology. Possibly over the years to come banning of bitcoin won't be there.
They have bad view in bitcoin at first due they didn't know much yet about bitcoin , but once they are get into bitcoin world and learn more deep they would feel how much bitcoin benefit can affected to their financial system , that 's what happened to china and russia.
1910  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the easiest way to make a profit from gambling? on: January 19, 2017, 08:26:11 PM
Direct dice or dice games were the one that are easy way of making profit. At the same you need to be with a mind to accept anything. Its just do or die game, strategies won't make or increase the winning possibilities.

Actually I think strategies can increase your winning possibilities, but what is true is that they won't be working forever and you will lose in the long run anyway. Personally I like to use martingale strategy betting 9x and increasing the bet 2 times after 3 losses in a row. It works for me, but, as I said, not always.
If you think you can afford to lose it all then it's fine to do any kind way to bet. Higher risk you take higher return you can get . I just disagree with the opinion about a strategy can increase your chance to win especially in dice game , it's totally about luck nothing can change the outcome, the chance are same.
1911  Economy / Economics / Re: If bitcoin price is $10.000, will fiat be worthless? on: January 19, 2017, 08:02:11 PM
lol fiat will never be worthless .

Indeed. It can probably change its shape but it will never be worthless. Maybe in coming time fiat becomes digital also like bitcoin and other currencies and it will be used digitally everywhere in the world but it cannot be worthless just because of bitcoin as bitcoin has no involvement in physical world yet.
The transformatiin from physical money to digital money so far not really good and smooth , a lot of people still feel confused with the concept of bitcoin. Even we are as bitcoin enthusiast sometimes feel the same too . Hard to make fiat worthless it would live for long time.
1912  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Strategy and Lost in GAMBLE on: January 19, 2017, 07:44:37 PM
Every gambler have loses, that is normal thing in gambling and big part of the game. I count loses and after some number I try to bet higher to win back what i lost and earn, almost every game in gambling have similar approach.
Strategy is patience until we get in winning hands, knowing gambling is finding that moment and taking full advantage of it. Be smart and don`t run on your losing streak with all your money, in those hands bet minimal, feel the gambling.
Yeah things make gambling more excited are when you lost and expecting a winning in the next shots. Also without losing you can't learn something , some mistakes that you have made previously. I just believe in one thing that strategy has no effect when it's involve a luck based games in gambling.
1913  Economy / Economics / Re: Holdings of gold vs Holdings of btc on: January 19, 2017, 07:22:51 PM
if you want a lot profit i giving advice to holding bitcoin but have a high risk is comparable with what you get. holdings gold only keep your money most people says gold not make you rick but keep you rich, gold not high risk loses of value

I think it is depends on the magnitude of our investment, if a big investment is very risky if we select the bitcoin, remember many people stress when the bitcoin price came down from from $1,100 to $800. However gold is a top priority for investment, there is no one who refused the gold, so I recommend to retain the gold.
Those people who panicked when the price went down from $1,100 to $800 are certainly new in the bitcoin community, they did not know that it's normal and bitcoin is strong, so we will be back shortly. Lack of knowledge and experience lead to panic so let us make the right research to make the right decision.
I think it's normal to have a panic attack , just the matter of how they react after it. A newcomer would sell all the coins that they have and walk away forever due disappointed. When the real bitcoiner would be back later or even keep holding for long time.
1914  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: January 19, 2017, 06:51:06 PM
It is more smarter to invest than to gamble because if you are investing, you are waiting for something in return after time. yes it is not as faster than gambling but if you gamble, yes you earn money fast and after time, you,ll gonna lose it faster than you earn it. Make sense. Don't waste time from gambling for how many hours, just invest and wait for it to grow.
No one wants to wait these days, lol everyone wants quick profit/money. i agree investing is smarter, so if you have some bitcoin hold them as an investment/try to invest those coins into casinos bankroll and try not to gamble it away.  Wink
You think to invest something online worth to try? Especially when it's about huge amount of money? I don't think it's secure to do that , unless you are know well in the real life with the casino owner. Investing indeed better than gambling but you have to becareful choosing which one.
1915  Economy / Lending / Re: 🌟🌟🌟🌟✨ zazarb's Quick-Loans & Escrow 🌟🌟🌟🌟✨ on: January 17, 2017, 12:38:05 PM
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I am poplolnman from bitcointalk.org, today is 1/2/2017. I am asking for loan from zazarb 0.5 bitcoin with my account poplolnman as collateral. If I default my loan, zazarb will be the new owner of my account + privkey from this btc address 1Hmk1R1wDxDERFiBvfdEVU4HJVy8DWdvNM in terms 4 times repayment , 0.125 + 0.01 interest every 15 days.
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kindly send the coins here 1Hmk1R1wDxDERFiBvfdEVU4HJVy8DWdvNM

Thanks in advance

the repayment schedule would be

  17th jan,
  1 feb,
  16 feb,
  1 march,

accepted, signature verified.

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Hash: SHA512

This is zazarb from bitcointalk. Today is 2th., Jan. 2017

I have funded the Loan in the amount of 0.5 BTC to poplolnman via txid
77862915949f445d977dff3ee0760d00a7a86b9b2e68573e127ef0f02e6cadfe

Please repay
according to the following schedule:

  17th Jan,
  1th Feb,
  16th Feb,
  1th March,

0.54BTC total to following address: 1AxyPdVoRVkita9fnqCYaYZgssKvbzEpbL
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just sent the first payment as scheduled

687a739db703059f230c5c71befb000bde261b72b00c856fec3e31a1eb83d248

0.125+0.01

Next repayment would be

  1th Feb,
  16th Feb,
  1th March,

Thanks mate Wink
1916  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you can control your self when playing gambling? on: January 17, 2017, 11:59:05 AM
I can't control it, i always greedy to get more and more but bad luck always busted and get empty balance
Whereas i have planning to control and want to win small amount, control our emotional at gambling site is very difficult
Then don't deposit big amount or quit gambling if you cannot do that, it's not for all dude especially if you have a problem with controlling yourself. It's the only way to be safe, safe from losing more than what we can afford to lose, so as a responsible gambler you must learn that.
nothing wrong with gambling itself actually if you can treat it properly. i mean to make gambling as a way to have fun , get an exclusive entertainment . not to earn money which impossible to do that as our human nature always greedy no matter you won and especially when you lost you would just go mad gambling uncontrolled.
1917  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: January 17, 2017, 11:28:11 AM
In my personal experience,it's pretty hard to play gambling in a smart way.Not like an easy job as you thought but It's not mean that totally impossible.Thousands of people do it even they could make a living by gambling.As long as you have not a basic understanding, you can't start to make money most forms of gambling site.The smart gambler keep knowledge how to play smartly.You should play daily basis.
gaming with a smart way is very difficult to do. I also have tried to do a variety of ways to get that way, but it's very difficult and always ended in failure. The best way you can take is to bet on sporting events, as it has a great chance to win.
to me i think i can only suggest you that if you really want  to play gambling in a smart way you need to set a planing for your gambling, and only then you can play it in a smart way, like me as i have set a limit for my gambling and when i reach to that limit i stop playing gambling any more.
yes with a good and proper planing you can play gambling in a smart way. for example if you have set a limit for your wining and loosing side then you need to continue gambling  up to that limit and never try to exceed that limit.
the key is to not gamble what you can't afford to lose, people become greedy mostly once they try to gamble so there will be no limit unless they have lost all the money and desperate. hard to keep gambling in the limit line, but when you do it you can have fun and earn money at once, that's what a lot of people says about to gamble in smart way.

That's the attraction towards gambling. To gamble in a smart way user needs to play with small amounts, which is a better way to earn. Because it won't affect the user much if lost too, but when big amounts were placed if lost user needs to sacrifice his needs or needs to reduce his expenses so to compensate the loss. Playing smarter is to play with small amounts.
you have to not crossed your limit amount to gamble, it's just a stupid action when you actually have 10 bitcoin usable to gamble for example but then you lost and keep gambling with the money that you can't afford to lose ( get a loan for example or use your family fund) , gambling turn to a wild thing that moment, and you become a dumb guy.
1918  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your average bet per game? on: January 17, 2017, 10:50:50 AM
I'm betting depends on my capital let's say i have a lot of money right now ofcourse I'm gonna bet with a high amount hoping to grow it more. but if i dont have much capital i would say that im betting with a low amount to have a safer journey along gambling. gambling is not an easy way to get money. it's too risky and ofcourse if you do have a lot of money don't waste it on gambling don't do what did i do. much better if you keep it and invest it on other worth it things.
yeah gambling actually would just throw away your money in the end, unless you can stop when you are up in profit which it's something hard to do since everyone would have same nature to being greedy feel never enough on what they have achieved. better to gamble in highest amount at once and walk away rather than have to gamble in the long run.
1919  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Be careful of winning on Bitsler on: January 17, 2017, 10:06:32 AM
I read many posts there about loses last days in the casino, but without walid proof. I'm playing Bitsler too, but never had problems like you, where is a screenshot of bets? Or replay from bistler owner? Answer from him about your problem? Sorry, but you must provide all and then you can say Bitsler was wrong with you
i guess this is just another a gambler disappointment, they can't accept the fact that they are lost, instead to forget it they just create a story to make it was casino fault but actually it is not. this is an oldway to show your disappointment. try to gamble responsibly, a gambling sites like bitsler have been established, hard to blame them unless yeah if you have a valid proof.
1920  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What would happen if BTC was Banned? on: January 17, 2017, 09:51:43 AM
As anything banned, such as drugs or alcohol during the Prohibition, the price will rise a lot, and that will attract criminals. Not However not very sure how criminals could conduct a Bitcoin traffic as they do with drugs, but there will be definitively an action from their side.

i don't think so, even if bitcoin is banned you can still use it easily, no government will ever check if you are sending a transaction abroad to your friend or family

also bitcoin will continue to work on many other country, banning it in one country will not make any difference,

unless those that are in that country hold a very high amount and are in any way unable to use them, which mean that those coin are kinda like lost coins
the worst scenario are when most countries around the world agree to fight bitcoin together and banned globally which i think it's almost impossible to be happened isn't it? there wouldn't be a significant effect to bitcoin user even china previously have been declared that they are not supporting bitcoin and ban to whoever use bitcoin , but hey look now they are leading in bitcoin development.
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