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1901  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [PROPOSAL] - lock the apparent Mt. Gox coins for now on: March 04, 2014, 03:58:17 AM
As I suggested at the beginning of the thread, I would suggest a group of people, reasonably respected in the community, be set up to judge the evidence. To proceed fairly they would have to weigh the evidence for particular addresses. These addresses can always be unlocked if an owner can submit proof of proper ownership by other than Mt. Gox.

So a group of unelected persons appoint themselves as a central authority to police a decentralized system.  Can't possibly see what could go wrong with that?  Maybe you should just use PayPal, they already are the sole judge without recourse for transactions on their network.

1902  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [PROPOSAL] - lock the apparent Mt. Gox coins for now on: March 04, 2014, 03:52:31 AM
I would suggest they drop it. That way it wouldn't pay to waste a mined block including such a transaction. Since miners choose which transactions are included in the block, they needed include them in the first place.

That is a dangerous road to go down.  The 51% of miners they could just drop ALL other blocks and keep 100% of the block rewards for themselves too.  Honest miners build upon the longest chain.  A block containing a tx involving a "MtGox address" (which you have identified to any degree of accuracy) is a valid block.  So your solution is a cartel of miners decide to start dropping valid blocks?  Why not drop all valid blocks and double their profits?  They are already breaking the spirit of Bitcoin why half ass it.

Also you do realize this cartel would be blocking txs based solely on their (likely flawed) guess as to what is a MtGox address.   Why not boost profits and start dropping transactions (and block containing them if they haven't already excluded all other miners) of users who refuse to pay an extortion tax?  Pay 1 BTC and we whitelist your addresses, if you don't then you never get to spend your coins again.

While these types of cartel behavior may be something Bitcoin needs to face in the future, it is another thing to actively recruit and coordinate miners to form the first cartel.

1903  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: MtGox source code leaked ... on: March 04, 2014, 03:25:18 AM
Why does the MtGox code send e-mails to Luke-Jr?

IIRC MtGox had a deal where Eligus would include their transactions.
1904  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [PROPOSAL] - lock the apparent Mt. Gox coins for now on: March 04, 2014, 02:34:58 AM
Anyone who feels their coins have been unfairly locked, because they weren't part of the Mt. Gox wallets, can just provide proof of ownership to the appropriate group to have the addresses removed from the locked list. Clearly this would require good evidence, but that can be arranged and weighed appropriately.

What "appropriate group"?  The central bank of Bitcoin?  The Central Bitcoin Intelligence Agency?

You have no idea which addresses belong to MtGox.  It doesn't strike you as utter contemptible to just start blocking addresses because you think they belong to MtGox? Forget laws, on what ethical or moral authority do you have the right to arrest the wealth on another person? 

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There is nothing wrong with the Bitcoin community, as a consensus, saying they want to be just and support law enforcement in such cases. In fact, I would argue it is using available information and the capabilities of new crypto-currencies in a freedom supporting way.

Except by the responses of this very thread you already don't have a consensus and that is with only a tiny number of people knowing about it.  What you want is a central all powerful authority to control the wealth of others based on the flimsiest of evidence.  Evidence which BTW wouldn't be sufficient in a court of law to freeze assets "Your honor we think these assets might belong to the defandant so we want you to freeze them for an indefinite amount of time just in case.  This was thoroughly researched by some people on the internet and stuff.".
1905  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I told Satoshi to call it Digicashbills on: March 04, 2014, 02:08:29 AM
I keep saying that bitcoins only exist as balances associated with a bitcoin address. What is kept is the private key that allows you to spend your bitcoin address bill.  I told Satoshi to call it Digicashbills (DGB) instead of bitcoins, but he didn't listen.

When you "told" him that I am surprised he didn't correct you that there is no such thing as "balances associated with an address" either.  Bitcoin works on the concept of inputs and outputs.  So if 0.5 BTC and 2 BTC were "sent" to the same address they exists as two discrete outputs (valued at 0.5 BTC & 2.0 BTC) in the blockchain not a balance of 2.5 BTC.

Maybe this was a dream where you talked to "Satoshi"?
1906  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: MtGox source code leaked ... on: March 04, 2014, 01:05:46 AM
If people are shocked by the quality of code seen from MtGox, you should stop using your bank, abandon your car and ditch your mobile phone.  There are mountains of legacy spaghetti code out there that are completely written against proper academic rules.  You use the code every day for critical applications.

MtGox was created in 2010, it was a greenfield project.  Most developers relish the idea of working on a greenfield projects because it doesn't require them to drag forward decades of legacy cludge and instead allows them to do it right (at least initially).  Kinda hard to compare that to a banking system which may have its roots going back forty years and be the net results of multiple acquired and merged systems.  For long runnning enterprise applications, developers are rarely given the option to make a clean break.  MtGox didn't have that problem.  It started with an empty text file and ended up resembling systems which get that way after decades of hacks, workarounds, and patches. 

Sometimes a spade is a spade and you can just call it that.  MtGox's transaction engine was so bad it would choke at 5 tps despite running on server hardware capable of 1000x that (two very high end dedicated servers).  Yes facebook's early roots were in php (it has long since been converted to C++) but facebook would never have scaled to even a million users if its codebase was this bad.  Today we would be saying "facebook who?" instead of it being a household name if the code wasn't scalable.   

There is no excuse or justification for code this bad.  None.  Period.  Anyone offering it just looks silly.
1907  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Advice Needed For Buying Bitcoins on: March 03, 2014, 11:50:13 PM
Coinbase allows you to purchase using Credit card, you do required to be verified.

IIRC Coinbase allows using credit card as "backup funding" for instant purchases in the event the ACH is denied.  There is no option to purchase using CC directly.
1908  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Advice Needed For Buying Bitcoins on: March 03, 2014, 11:49:35 PM
Many thanks for your response, greatly appreciated. Western union has limits though? I am looking in the region of 20+ BTC

BitSimple can do 20+ BTC but you would need to fund by bankwire.  I don't think you are going to find anyone is going to let you purchase that much using a credit card for the obvious fraud reasons.
1909  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: How are rejected shares related to mining intensity? on: March 03, 2014, 10:57:14 PM
GPU operate in a "batch" mode.  They start hashing and attempt so many hashes before stopping to return results.  The higher the intensity the more hashes the card attempts in one batch but also the longer the batch takes.  The card only returns results at the end of the batch.  The higher the intensity (and longer the batch) the more shares which are computed but never "delivered" before the block changes and they become stale.  On the other hand the lower the intensity the more of the GPU time spent setting up and taking down batches which means a lower raw hashrate

You get paid for shares (or work) accepted so that is what you should be looking to maximize.  It is possible the accepted rate is still higher even with a higher rejected rate because the gross (raw) hashrate is higher.

Simplified example
100 shares gross w/ 1% rejected = 99 shares accepted
120 shares gross w/ 10% rejected = 102 shares accepted.

The later is more profitable.  Since you get "paid" for shares accepted that is the number you want to maximize.
1910  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Bitcoin to paypal -- Legit ? on: March 03, 2014, 10:49:53 PM
It is called a confidence job.  If the first small transaction was never paid ... they would be able to steal one small transaction.  Scammers aren't dumb.  The early payments are in investment in the scam.  Payout a couple early transactions, and now they are "legit".   When the bigger transactions come in they have some "problems".  Interesting that the "solution" to their problems is you sending even more bitcoins no?  Eventually they go silent and just hope to catch noobs who stumble across them without researching first.  When that dries up the site will disappear and a new one with an amazing deal will pop up.

I really am sorry for your loss but once you see a couple hundred scams it becomes very obvious to spot them.  
The brand new site with "back history" appearing out of nowhere - check.
The long time bitcoiner who has never had an account at bitcointalk - check.
The better than anyone else but not too good deal - check.
The big logos of partners which don't stand up (virwox never heard of them) - check.
The swam of single digit users who appear out of nowhere asking about and vouching for the site - check.
The bogus delay tactics and requests for more money - check.

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Joe gave you the right answer almost three weeks ago.  
This site is a 100% Scam
1911  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: ACH Transactions Help on: March 03, 2014, 09:32:43 PM
I believe (not 100% sure) Coinbase uses Silicon Valley Bank but they are not accepting new accounts for any Bitcoin related companies due to regulatory uncertainty.  Just about any bank has the ability to offer ACH service.  Also as noted above MongoDB has nothing to do with ACH.
1912  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: transactions & signatures in depth questions on: March 03, 2014, 09:00:11 PM
^^^thank you.

1. wallet  address(like:1QKuiPibmXDNMtSNNYYmpFczZViRz9AzEF) is(the actual number) the result of privet key+ public key only?
when referring to the number above, is saying: wallet address, public address, public key are all the same?

No.  Neither are correct.

There is a private key (a random 256 bit number).
ECDSA is used to generate a public key from that private key (compressed or uncompressed).
The public key is hashed (PubKeyHash).
The PubKeyHash is versioned, checksumed and then encoded in base58 to produce the address.

There are four distinct things
Private Key
PubKey
PubKeyHash
Address

Each of these are used in different areas in the Bitcoin protocol.  A user may provide you an ADDRESS which your client reverses to the PUBKEYHASH.  Your client create a transaction which uses the PUBKEYHASH in the output of the transaction.  The transaction is signed by your PRIVATE KEY(s) your PUBKEY(s) are included in the input to allow other nodes to verify the signature.
1913  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Cold storage for exchanges? on: March 03, 2014, 08:36:34 PM
So when you ask for a bitcoin withdrawl some employee of the exchange takes a paper wallet and sends you BTC?

How do they prevent in-house theft?
Do they require multiple signatures to approve a cold wallet withdrawl?
What type of cold wallet do they use?
How much overhead does it create?


"Cold Storage" is just words.  You would need to ask the exchange in question.
1914  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: "invisible" btc withdrawals? on: March 03, 2014, 08:08:10 PM
Blockchain.info isn't the blockchain (confusing choice of a name) it simply a service which scans the blockchain and shows blocks & transactions.  A few other people have been reporting similar issues.  There is a transaction showing on blockr http://blockr.io/address/info/17kN7ZAGHkwAV3kQmGSms5tM3E4bKVdHFz

It would be best to retitle you thread "blockchain.info not showing transactions" it might get more direct help.
1915  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: MtGox source code leaked ... on: March 03, 2014, 06:19:17 PM
I prefer one monster super class...

Well I think we are done. 
1916  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin circulation on: March 03, 2014, 06:13:45 PM
An economics professor once told me, "Once a commodity always a commodity."

He must have missed that one minor exception in the history of money.



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This may change in 20, 40, maybe 100 years but we're nowhere near that.

This I agree with.  Major changes never happen overnight.  I always thought (and got laughed about it year ago) Bitcoin was looking at a 10 to 20 year road to mainstream adoption.

The "money chain" doesn't magically go from 100% fiat to 100% alternative.  Companies that have Bitcoins will spend those instead of converting them if they can.  If for no other reason than it saves them the cost of conversion.   Our company has revenue in Bitcoins and we now pay namecheap for domain names and SSL certs in Bitcoins.   Now namecheap might convert 100% of that to dollars but it still adds one link to the chain.  Maybe some namecheap pays some of their costs in Bitcoins or some of their employees wish to take some of their salary in bitcoins.  The chain extends one link at a time.
1917  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: MtGox source code leaked ... on: March 03, 2014, 05:58:20 PM
Um this goes far beyond "not perfect".  It essentially breaks every rule in software design, resulting in a fragile, unmaintainable mess.

Projects written by a single person don't need to be developed as academics say. If u were an owner of an exchange and didn't trust to any other coder u would go the same way.

I do own (well partially) an exchange, and I did initially did code it all myself.  I still used concepts like scope delineation, separation of concerns, encapsulation of internal details, test driven development (unit tests), mocking, inversion of control, etc to be used.  These aren't just academic ideals, they are used every day in millions of software projects.  One programmer or one hundred there are reasons code is broken into logical groupings not one monster horribly do everything superclass.  The later produces fragile, unmaintainable, untestable code with the very obvious and expected end result.

I am not gods gift to software engineering but I have written hobbyist projects which had better design.

I think the articles sums it up
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To sum up function _Route_getStats($path): XML production, JSON production, file writing, business logic, SQL commands, HTTP header fiddling, hard coded paging limits, multiple exit points...
All these things don't belong in the same class.  The http header generator doesn't need to know about the business logic, the SQL connectivity doesn't need to know about the routing.  Good software is hard, the capabilities of the computers, and languages already push the limits of what humans can process effectively.  Software developers use design tools to help the human manage the code/project.  You could write a web application in machine code if you wanted to, ultimately it all ends up there anyways but try spotting a bug in something low level like that.  High level languages were developed to allow a better code view.

Personally I am no fan of php for a variety of reasons but php doesn't mean you have to write code like the leaked gox source.  It is possible to write good (or at least better) php.  The major issue isn't the choice of language but how that language was (mis)used.
1918  Economy / Speculation / Re: URGENT NEWS - Warren Buffet declares Bitcoin as a BAD INVESTMENT on: March 03, 2014, 05:54:43 PM
Warren Buffet is a very smart investor in that he ONLY invests in things he understand completely.  He has indicated he doesn't understand Bitcoin (and a lot of other tech concepts he missed out on completely).  The good news for him is you don't need to know every home run just enough of them to beat the average.

Now if it was leaked that Buffet (or Berkshire Hathaway) was short 1M BTC well that would be a little different. 
1919  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: MtGox source code leaked ... on: March 03, 2014, 05:39:36 PM
I have nothing to say just stunned silence that this was the codebase used to process millions of dollars and BTC everyday.

Bitcoin code written by Satoshi is not perfect too but u still use it.

Um this goes far beyond "not perfect".  It essentially breaks every rule in software design, resulting in a fragile, unmaintainable mess.
1920  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: MtGox source code leaked ... on: March 03, 2014, 05:19:02 PM
Oh and it gets worse

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From the IRC chat of Nanashi and other hackers, it seems that the hacker also have access to a 20GB data dump of customer data along with passport scans.
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