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1901  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: January 01, 2023, 02:19:44 PM
We have only 3 games tomorrow, all of the games are worth to bet because none of the teams are struggling so far.

Kings @ Grizzlies -4.5
Wizards @ Bucks -8.5
Celtics @ Nuggets +1.5

What do you think would be the right call here? I'm thinking of betting on the Grizzlies -4.5. They are on a back to back game but I'm pretty sure they will be able to handle the Kings.

I would love to choose the Celtics here, they are the road team but I guess they play good defense that's why they have an impressive road record which is 11-5 win-loss. Murray isn't that consistent yet, their last game they even almost loss, good thing they were able to come back. If that was the Celtics they are playing with, no way they'll have that comeback win.

I also think 233 under is the right call, we should see some defensive game.
1902  Economy / Speculation / Re: Elon Musk says the price of BTC will rise on: January 01, 2023, 01:24:36 PM

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Bitcoin's development in terms of price will happen in a matter of time. It could be another year or two. We can imagine what the price conditions will be in 2019 and 2020, while it is unexpected how in 2021.
My assumption is that this year there will be a price recovery that will occur in bitcoin, if it follows the cycle as you said before, but it cannot be clearly predicted in what month it will occur, because my calculations in 2024 bitcoin will reach the next ATH, that means 2023 is likely to see a gradual recovery of bitcoin.


We are not at the bottom yet, or are we? Bitcoin is already below $20k, or already 25% of its All time high. I don't know if the bear market will end this year, but if it will, then I guess we should be ready for another huge run, and by saying ready, that means you already have accumulated enough to enjoy the bull market.

I guess if bitcoin will still continue to go down, it will not anymore drop below $10k.
1903  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: January 01, 2023, 12:44:29 PM
This is the first time that we have a guest, it can't happen that we will lose in the Finals. Ginebra has a huge number of fans, imagine what will happen if they will lose this series. It's just like we are supping the Gilas Pilipinas against China is this series, so they really need to win. Also, we cannot eliminate the possibility that the referees will also do some dirty tactics to favor the ginebra, it's not new in this business.
Bay Area is not turning back though and they are not afraid, so the challenge here is really on the side of Ginebra.
There might be pressure from the fans but I hope Ginebra will start to compose themselves again and start to play well especially in game 3. Ginebra have to win on this finals to prove their supremacy in PBA but then again, there's no guarantee for this. This is the bad side of PBA, there is too much politics and yes even referees are not fair at all, so hopefully they will stay on the fair side even if Bay Area is on the lead.
The challenge is on both teams because with this 1-1 record, it proved that both teams are capable of winning. The momentum now is on Bay Area, so we think that Ginebra is in trouble, but wait until Ginebra will win, views of the fans will also change.
Forget about that momentum, these teams are professional, and they cannot be complacent even if they won the last game. The game 3 winner is not also guaranteed to win, unless they will win again in gam 4 where the series will be 3-1 which most of the time the team leading the 3-1 series will likely win the series.

Anyway, let's not talk about that yet, we still have game 3, let's see who will win and let's see if the series will be over in game 4.
1904  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: January 01, 2023, 11:51:41 AM
We don't know if they can make it to the eastern finals but with how they are performing right now, they've got better chemistry and the stars are really taking over to help to win each game.

With regard to coach Nash, he's now a close book for this season. After he left and after that issue
with Kyrie has been resolved or now being forgotten, Nets are performing to the best level that they
can, nothing to say, but 11 winning streaks is really a good sign for them, without major injuries
they can continue winning and might be possible to force their way to the playoffs. We never know how
far, will going to depend on how they will perform in the next round.


That winning streak might continue for a while as the next 2 games are just easy, especially the Spurs who are not in a good ranking now. I'm surprise with this team, I thought the real problem is Kyrie, but he proved me wrong, it was indeed the coach who was the problem, and now they are living based on our expectation.

They are a very exciting team to watch, they are the only team now with a long winning streak, 76ers had a long win streak too but their win streak was already over, now all eyes are on the Nets because they are winning games even on games that they are not in control, they know how to come back to win.
1905  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bear market likely over? on: December 31, 2022, 02:44:38 PM
Seems the bear market is likely going soonest. Congratulations in advance to those who bought low and those hodling for a long time. There is likely going to be a new all time high to be achieved before this year comes to an end. If you can, fill up your bag but do your own research.

What do you all think about the sudden bounce back and price increase on Bitcoin of lately?
The bear market doesn't seem to be ending anytime soon. Bitcoin price is currently at a position from which no one can make any predictions. However, various experts have analyzed that the Bitcoin market will move towards bulls in 2024. But everyone can invest as they wish in this bear market. You may not get such an opportunity later. So if you can buy bitcoins from this dumping market and hold for long term, you can definitely achieve good things in 2024. So no one should miss this time.
Don't believe in experts, just believe in yourself and what you see based on your experience. Experts have different predictions, some are bearish, while some are bullish, so it's really hard who to trust because at the end of the day, no one can predict the price or movement of bitcoin, we are just doing a big guessing game.
1906  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: December 31, 2022, 02:15:57 PM
I'll be on the Gin kings side this upcoming game 3, I believe that they will show good adjustment to win the game.
Basketball is a game of adjustments.
You lose, you will watch the whole game and then adjust. Right now, it's harder to know who will win in Game 3 TBH. I want to bet on Ginebra on this one, but the Dragons are also capable in defeating them. Ginebra will win if they will help Brownlee on offense because that's their problem in Game 2. No help from others offensively.

Ginebra had a big win in game 1, so there's no need to doubt them in game 3. the series is still tied, regardless on how these teams have won or even the series. Yes, Ginebra could probably win game 3, but if they will lose, they still have game 4 to even the series, so just bet on this team and support them by cheering on them.
There should no be doubt with Ginebra, as they prove a lot of things already but in this finals many are hesitant simply because Ginebra is playing against a better team and that's the biggest challenge so far. Its hard to place a bet in game 3 but I think Bay Area have a better momentum here and probably they will take Game 3 while Ginebra will bounce back in game 4 like they always do, I'm placing some local bet for Bay Area in game 3, let's see if its a good decision or not.

Can't blame other people to think that ginebra will struggle with their current opponent since look at what Dragons do on the whole series they really put some good numbers to dominate their opponents. And many pba fans really see that one as basis to them that they are underdog on this match up. But I want the Ginebra to win since this will be a huge for filipino fans if they see Ginebra surpass a big challenge and win a championship this season.

This is the first time that we have a guest, it can't happen that we will lose in the Finals. Ginebra has a huge number of fans, imagine what will happen if they will lose this series. It's just like we are supping the Gilas Pilipinas against China is this series, so they really need to win. Also, we cannot eliminate the possibility that the referees will also do some dirty tactics to favor the ginebra, it's not new in this business.
1907  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [BOXING] Manny Pacquiao vs. DK Yoo on: December 29, 2022, 03:15:57 PM
The fight was long finished, I'm wondering why the thread isn't locked yet. I guess, this is gonna be a new thread for Manny's next fine then?
OP should either close the thread or rename the thread, just my 2 cents.

I don't think that Manny Pacquiao will be involved in anymore exhibition fights. He is already 44 years old and nowadays he is not giving much attention to boxing. He won the match against DK Yoo in a quite convincing manner, but over time his boxing skills will deteriorate. Already he has participated in 3 exhibition fights after his retirement, starting with the 2022 fight against Haha. Also, he is quite vocal about his political ambitions. His 2022 presidential campaign wasn't very successful, but I am sure that he is planning something big in politics. 

We'll see about that soon because as of now, Manny Pacquiao is currently busy with his career in exhibition fight. Let's just give the legend some time as he just came back and after all, this is his passion and the sports he loved the most. I'm much more excited on his 2nd bout compared to his 1st with DK Yoo.
1908  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: December 29, 2022, 03:15:24 AM
My picks for tonight.

Atlanta Hawks vs Brooklyn Nets (-1.5) = First Quarter Win 1.77 Odds.

Atlanta Hawks vs Brooklyn Nets (-5.5) = Brooklyn Nets Win 1.72 Odds.

Chicago Bulls vs Milwaukee Bucks = Milwaukee Bucks Win 1.72 Odds.

Good luck guys.

Congratulations for knocking down those 1st two bets. Brooklyn Nets won again and that makes their 10th winstreak this season, it was a close game at first but the Hawks didn't had it their way as the gap became bigger, they tried to rally in the 4th quarter but the Nets didn't let it happen.

About your 3rd bet, seems you'll be having a perfect bet. Bucks seems to have a good run against the Bulls. Congrats again!
1909  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: December 29, 2022, 03:02:13 AM
Heat vs Lakers match-up have just ended and the latter fell short on their campaign to continue their winstreak on the road. I can't say that the Lakers has been solid today despite of their goal to continue their win yesterday because they kept on doing some mistakes and giving turnovers to the Miami Heat.

As a matter of fact, the Lakers achieved a season high of 24 turnovers. While the Heat was quite happy because of it, taking advantage of every mistakes made by the opposite team and they had a good defense.

Final score: MIA 112 - 98 LAL
1910  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing: Errol Spence vs Keith Thurman on: December 28, 2022, 08:29:56 PM
This seems kind of like a pointless fight to me. Thurman has been inactive and hasn't beaten a ranked fighter in several years but now he magically became the WBC's #1 ranked contender out of nowhere. Spence should be fighting his mandatory Jaron Ennis or Eimantas Stanionis who has been waiting a long time for his opportunity and has been paid to step aside. The only thing that Thurman has going for him is that he's a recognizable name but I doubt he'll be any more of a challenge than Danny Garcia and Ugas were to Errol Spence.

I understand your frustrations, I'd say that let's just get ourselves used to the new climate that boxing has to offer in this era. It is not just you, all avid boxing fans do know who should be fighting who but as I said, this new climate has some stronger ties to the governing bodies, that is why there's some favorites and some are getting favors to maintain their status while avoiding such risky fights.

But for Thurman, many believed that he still got some shot left in his career even after his inactivity. His recent fight shows that he can still deliver powerful punches that might give Spence some struggle. Thurman's only loss is not that big of a deal and I reckon that he could've defeat Pacquiao if he wasn't knocked down at the early rounds, even the scores shows that the match was so close.

I'm okay with this match-up because if ever Thurman wins, then that means that we will have a champion that won't avoid future fights and Crawford will have his chance to cement his legacy after a long time and the mandatory fighters will also get their chance as well. These days, whether we like it or not, Al Haymon controls the welterweight and super-welterweight division.
1911  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: December 28, 2022, 07:39:59 PM
The Nets are starting to look like they’re firing on all cylinders. They’ve quietly won 9 straight with Kyrie and KD both scoring more than 30 in their last outing. KD looked a little frustrated at times yelling at teammates, but maybe that’s what they need out of him as a leader because whatever they’ve started doing seems to be working. They’re now the #3 team in the East and looking good.
They've won 9 straight games but surprisingly, nobody is talking too much about it, or I'm not updated only Cheesy.

Nevertheless, it's good to see the Nets starting to get some wins already after that awful start and a lot of drama that went on. Looks like their new coach is a perfect fit for the team. It seems like the yelling that KD is doing is firing all of the Nets roster and performing way better than what they are. KD and Kyrie are expected main offensive players for the team but what's better is that they are getting enough help for their role players and Simmons is slowly getting his rhythm already.

The Nets are 3rd in sportsbook before the season in which team has a higher chance to win. With their current roster and their current performance and if they will continue to play like this and there will be no injuries, they are formidable team to deal in the Eastern Conference.

With the way they are trusting each other and how the role players are performing, I can go with that statement, without any injuries
and with a complete squad moving to the next round, Nets is one of the good contender from the east.

9 straight winning streak and both of your superstars are playing hard. They are boosting the
role players to act and play the way they wanted.

Good to see that we are really seeing KD as a leader, with that yelling something that he needed
to bring his competitiveness with his teammates.

I can't help but think that Kevin Durant's intention to force a trade after what happened last season became a big help to the team this season, it seems that all of the them have straighten up and stepping up almost every game to help KD and Irving from carrying the team.

Aside from that, Ben Simmons has been a big help as well lately and later on became a part of the Nets Big Three.

Later, they have a game against the Atlanta Hawks. They have a good chance to continue their winning streak as they are already approaching towards their 10th win in a row, if ever.
1912  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cock fight game on: December 28, 2022, 06:46:24 PM

I don't know how people feel seeing animals fighting for their life and gamblers betting on them, I used to see some young men with dogs wrestling each around my environment, and most times I use to feel bad that those dogs are being maltreated.
I think the government should put in place some law that protects animals, and anyone found wanting should face the rout of the law because animals are not getting the necessary protection their to deserve and their owners choose to do whatever their wish to the point of gambling on the life of those animals. Cock fighting is not too popular nowadays.

Yup, the government is the one that needs to act in order to lessen this kind of gambling, but like what I mentioned before from my replies, even the government will apply rules. There are still people who will continue.

They are capable to do perform it illegally since there are still gamblers who are willing to take
the risk and bet or bring their roster for a cockfight in an illegal arena.

That's also the reason why the government is not taking this matter into their hands and just let the public enjoy it freely because they already know that banning it will just worsen the situation. They'll be playing hide and seek with these gamblers all along and waste resources again, so now, they are just riding with it because the revenue will be a big help. Harsh truth, I reckon because these animals are experiencing cruelties just to give people some entertainment.

If the government cannot completely avoid this kind of situation, they must at least provide stricter and stringent regulation when it comes to these kinds of games. Animal cruelty has been slowly gaining attraction and recognition compared before and this kind of situation must not be taken lightly. The problem is, how do we see a middle-ground for these types of games especially that they are already existing for hundreds of years now?

As someone who grew up with a family that loves to engage in cockfighting (we even have a designated farm raising cockfighters), stricter regulations must be implemented and harsh sanctions must be executed who violate such.

Felt your story mate because I also came from an Asian household that really loves engaging in this kind of sports, cockfighting. My take is that time to time, these kind of gambling will somehow cease because not every household have some kid that will continue the tradition, in my case, none of my siblings takes any interests to inherit it and we chose our own ways far from it.

In the governments side, they don't have to be any stricter because people already know what's wrong or not about this kind of gambling. The government already laid out some places where to gamble and provide license, so, if someone will gamble that is not on their list then it's sure that they will get chased by the authorities.
1913  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin December price on: December 28, 2022, 06:15:42 PM
We still have nothing to say that we have reached the final bottom of this bear season, so a recovery in 2023 is uncertain. With only 3 days left of the year, we can be sure that bitcoin will end the year with a red candle and we will have 4 consecutive red quarters, but there is no sign of bitcoin going up yet in 2023. Looking at the macroeconomic situation, I still predict 2023 is still a bearish year, and we will bottom in 2023. Although the halving will be a time to expect a bull run, depending on the economic situation, the war, and inflation is still there, so it is difficult to expect the bulls to come at the right time.
All possibilities can still occur according to the market reaction to economic growth, inflation and recession. However, when viewed from the previous correction phase, bitcoin is likely to get a sustained recovery in 2023, even though during this recovery bitcoin will also experience a correction. I believe bitcoin will rise above $30K to $60K over the next year as the market reacts to its recovery.

These predictions can be wrong or right and even shift to higher prices, because there is no level of accuracy for speculators or exact predictions, but the cyclical connection can form the basis of the predictions we reveal today. Hopefully in the next year we will see progress towards recovering the price of bitcoin, so that potential investments provide even more maximum returns.

Yes, there's no guarantee that our speculations will come true down the road but what is important is that we are holding hopes that bitcoin will somehow recover somewhere next year. The earlier, the better but again, let's just hope for the better and ride the current while taking any advantage that we can have while it's still selling at a much cheaper price.
I understand that you're expecting the market to recover and will rise above $30k. But I reckon that it's still too much to ask for that, let's wait it to achieve the $20k mark first.
1914  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will Bitcoin Die or Pump Up in 2023? on: December 28, 2022, 05:53:36 PM
According to Elon Musk, the price of Bitcoin will increase by the end of winter.  And we should not lose hope.  We have to harden our minds.  And everyone needs to hold on to Bitcoin tightly so that it doesn't get traded away from the market.  Whoever has the amount of BTC deposited, rest assured.  And wait, something good will come inshallah.  Inshallah BTC price will increase by mid 2023.  And I believe in Elon Musk's words, so you should continue to believe.  The price will definitely increase.
https://imgur.com/a/XFaaPeI

That's on you OP, can't blame you for believing Elon Musk's words because the man is renowned as the richest man here in this planet.

Whether we like it or not, bitcoin will indeed recover as always but saying that it will by the end of winter sounds so speculative because Elon Musk doesn't hold any power to manipulate the bitcoin or have any power to predict what will happen in the future. Elon is not really different to those people are calling themselves experts when it comes to crypto because nobody exactly knows when will be the pump begin.
1915  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What are you doing with your alt bags on: December 27, 2022, 07:13:37 PM
Altcoins not named Ethereum and BNB are really scary during a market fallout. Altcoins that are new and are not listed on big exchanges are the most dangerous of them as they can easily get pulled down. I have a new altcoin that is not yet listed on a top 5 exchange, from my investment of around $4,000 down to like $20 in value. If only I invested it in bitcoin, I would have a quarter of a bitcoin by now. Anyways, we should always put the money we can afford to lose and DYOR seriously to avoid heart-breaking losses. I am still optimistic though that some of these altcoins can recover and a few of them can rise up to x100 during a bull market. 

I feel you mate, that kind of loss is truly heartbreaking, I know because I'm also speaking from experience from the last fall-out. We know the risks of course but sometimes we chose to hope that someday, our selected altcoins will be favored and their value would be sky-rocketing but what happened was the exact opposite as it was swept by the harsh market conditions. From that point, I've learned to only invest in known coins rather than taking some huge risks from investing in these unknown coins that aren't yet making name.
1916  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The reason Dogecoin could fail in the future on: December 27, 2022, 06:49:32 PM
Dogecoin in my opinion is one of the few cryptos that is quite stable and has survived to this day. Even though Dogecoin is memecoin, it seems that until now people are still interested in holding this token and it looks like it will continue in the future. So what you're saying is that it has an outdated blockchain, that I don't think is a compelling reason for Dogecoin to be abandoned by its holders.

As you've said, up until now, people are still holding and interested to acquire more of this dogecoin. But aren't you curious and confused why people are still looking forward with it despite having no utility and categorized as one of the meme coins? That is because they are waiting and hoping for the next trend where another crypto whale will try and manipulate the market into their own benefit, and once that happens, those said people who held their coins will also ride the wave.
1917  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [BOXING] Manny Pacquiao vs. DK Yoo on: December 27, 2022, 01:39:46 PM
This is an embarassing exhibition fight for Manny in my opinion. Nevermind that he always show his A-Game everytimr he boxes, but the fact of the matter is that an elite boxer with so many titles and belts under his wing is so agreeing to fight an obscure YouTuber let alone someone who doesn't have boxing experience prior is what made the fans just throw a thumbs down on this one. At least with Jake and Mayweather we can accept that. The fact that Jake is a very successful star and influencer, with boxing experience to boot is what made the fight fun for the viewers. Manny vs. DK Yoo just looked like a one-sided after-school meet-me-behind-the-school battle.

Compare to Jake vs Mayweather, that's a pure exhibition match with no charity involved or something.

This exhibition fight between Pacquiao and DK Yoo does have a good purpose and you can search for where they will share part of their money.

As long as Manny will be involved in exhibition matches for a good reason and not just entertainment, should be no problem with that.

Manny Pacquiao on the other hand, he can always up his exhibition bouts in the future by fighting a much known boxer or fighter and I just don't get why he chose an unknown fighter on his 1st exhibition bout. That way, his purpose to donate in a charity will be maximized as the revenues that will be generated is far more greater than what they earned in their recent fight.

Maybe DK Yoo was the one who approach Manny on anyone from his camp and offer this exhibition fights. And we also think initially that Manny will not play into this whole exhibition matches and he will retire for good. But maybe he thinks of the positive thing that this kind of matches will bring, like the money raised for a good cause.

And now everyone is calling him, including Mundine and perhaps there will be more in the future including one of the Paul Brothers.

But let's wait because he has one already early next year in Saudi Arabia.

Might be the case why their bout suddenly materialized and DK Yoo became Pacquiao's first dance in his return on the ring. I just don't know what DK Yoo had and made the legend agree because just like what I said, the venue wasn't maximized to the fullest of capacity. I know that $5 Million dollar is big enough but that could've been bigger if you know, Pacquiao fought someone else.

And yes, right now, Pacquiao already have his 2nd bout scheduled in the Middle East but maybe he's been having some discussions now who will he fight next while he is still hot and viewed as cash to generate guaranteed millions. One of the Paul Brothers will be good too because they have a huge fan base but the fight will be intense especially if Pacquiao will fight the younger one because I view Jake as ambitious and wanted to add heavy names on his record.

Funny thing is that the guy even called out Canelo Alvarez because he thinks he can pull an upset too just because he defeated a veteran MMA fighter who became a boxer now. You guys know who I'm talking about.
1918  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: December 27, 2022, 01:41:03 AM
Regard to LeBron James, he continues to play, most of the games he manages to have a good score, in others not so much, unfortunately he cannot carry the team on his shoulders as he did before, and it is clear that he needs help, especially AD to get the Lakers to the playoffs and perform well in this stage of the competition!

Lebron is not the main man anymore. Though he can still contribute to the offense, he is not that much anymore in defense. He is not as intense as he was when he was in Miami or in Cleveland. AD is the main man of the Lakers right now but his availability to play prohibits him to carry the team. IF Lebron is not bringing too much income to the Lakers organization, I think he will be out already. Let's see how far the current roster will take them and how long the Lakers will stick to AD and Lebron if they do not bring success to the Lakers.



No doubt about that, I mean, the only reason why the Lakers is letting LeBron James stay is because of the fact that he can attract viewers that benefits the organization especially if they are playing at home. Aside from that? Nothing anymore, his points is sure big almost every game but that's not what the team needed because those points will be pointless if they are also vulnerable at defense as that is not the basis to keep the team afloat mainly now that Davis is not around to help the team.
1919  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing: Artur Beterbiev vs Anthony Yarde on: December 27, 2022, 01:27:39 AM
So Anthony Yarde is getting pointers and advice from the legendary multiple-champion Oleksandyr Usyk. We will see if Yarde will be able to utilize it. I watched all the 3 amateur fights between Usyk and Beterbiev a long time ago where the former has a 2-1 standing. Iirc they were all close fights and Usyk was hurt several times including getting knocked down once or twice. So Usyk may not be the perfect guy to solve the Beterbiev puzzle but at least he was able to give the heavy bomber some problems with his superior movements. But can Yarde emulate the lateral movements of Usyk or is he capable of moving for a full 12-round fight?  

Yarde Says Usyk Gave Him Advice Ahead of Beterbiev Showdown

I hope that advice will help him, if I were Yarde, I would not stick completely to that advice and just have my own strategy to beat Artur Beterbiev. If Usyk is having trouble beating Artur Beterbiev, then it should not be easy for Yarde. Bettors would have a massive payout if this will turns out to be an upset win by Yarde.

Probably just a piece of advise, but hey when you are all alone in the ring with Beterviev, it might be a different story and all that advise might not work. So it's better to have your own plans and strategies with your team. Have a talk and sit down with them, review Beterviev's previous fight and try to look for some loopholes that they can exploit and they try to work it out in the gym. That's how old school boxing works, just hard grind in training and so when the time comes, Yarde will be prepared, and yeah, who knows, maybe if he pull the biggest upset of his career and someone here bet on him, it will be a big win.

Yes, I'd say that Yarde should stick to the original plan that he and his camp organized because that's much better rather than listening to an advice from a boxer who haven't yet got the chance to face Beterbiev. Usyk should just wait for his turn and do the talk when it's his time rather than giving some advice that is not yet proven because up to this date, no boxer have yet revealed any weaknesses of Artur Beterbiev.
1920  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Devin Haney vs Vasiliy Lomachenco on: December 27, 2022, 01:05:26 AM

Loma will give Haney a hard fight to win but Haney being a younger fighter will likely win by decision just as he did with the last few fights he did. Haney being a young fighter still is not as good as Loma in his prime. 50/50 I think.

Different outcome if Loma can knock Haney but if the fight ends in 12 rounds, it will be Haney's victory.

Yes, this will be a tough shot for Lomachenko to get the odds on his favor because he is not that agile anymore compared to his younger years where he was dominating his opponent easily as at that time his movements were really hard to read. Judging his performance from his recent return in the ring, it is hard to say yet that he is already past his prime, maybe in this bout we will see more of Loma's return.

Surprised to see about the poll too, seems other users are not that sure as well who got the upper hand.
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