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1921  Other / Off-topic / Re: Are you OK with this kind patenting? on: February 16, 2020, 11:24:48 AM
How do we handle the case below...



*Crypto people share ideas for the benefits of real decentralization,  and other people (mostly those who don't believe in true decentralization) copy the ideas, maybe make some modifications and patent them. Do you think this is ok?

I strongly believe ideas shared in Crypto communities or for crypto communities should only be used for true decentralization and not patented.
I am sure true crypto people wouldn't care who use their ideas, as long as the ideas are not used outside of making truely decentralized things and are not patented. .
 I guess every community in Crypto space should state this clearly to prevent people from patenting our ideas and getting wealthy from them?

Patents on software (code or math)... Are only a thing in about 6 countries. Do you live in one of them?

You can safely say that this practice is worldwide shunned upon. Its too bad the USA and South Korea are among them, but for example the EU and UK are against...

Therefore if you live in one of these countries, you should campaign to your politicians to put a stop to that practice. Of course we all known in systems like the American, you need money to do that (the lobby system), unfortunately those that happen to favor the patents seem to be the one able to lobby while the common folk (aka. ignorant masses) do not.
1922  Other / Off-topic / Re: Linux shills: What's your favorite window manager? on: February 16, 2020, 11:11:53 AM
Strange, my XFCE tends to have an uptime of weeks and months and it doesn't slowdown into a crawl. Are you sure you don't have a distro issue? (version issue, compilation, issue, etc?)

If the computer has very little ram, fluxbox is fine but i tend to prefer jwm, which brings a panel which is important to a certain user group. Of course you could always add a panel with tint2 or whatever (openbox+tint2 being a popular choice)

Many WM allow configuration changes in a text config file, some have UI tools to do it, and all of them can be restarted "on the fly".

You should constantly monitor your ram usage patterns. It is rare for the WM to be having issues, it usually is a web browser, or maybe the file manager (such thunar's tumbler, the thumbnailer).

Another group of people seem to swear by tiling window managers, i have yet to try swapping xfwm for one of them, i guess i should try i3 or something.
1923  Other / Off-topic / Re: Windows 7: new bug on: February 14, 2020, 07:44:40 PM
That's the price to pay for popularity by being free.

We can say the same thing for Android too. Open source and an infestation-heaven.

Android is NOT open source, only Linux is. Linux can't do magic when you surround it with garbage, almost everything else in Android is proprietary, a kernel alone cannot do miracles.

The comparison with Windows 7 is nonsense, there is nothing open or free about Windows, any version is closed and costs money to use, except for ReactOS but you probably don't even know that one.

If you want to get rid of infestation heaven, go get some proper Linux distro for your PC, such as MX Linux.
1924  Other / Off-topic / Re: What do you mean by the word "God"? on: February 14, 2020, 07:37:30 PM
The true CREATOR of Heavens, earth, living things and everything that exists.
HE Lives forever, HE's invisible and have rules. There are serious consequences for breaking the rules. HE shows mercy on those who ask for mercy. And HE is very very loving and patient.
He is currently watching you, and knows every thought in your mind.

His spirit also dwells in "clean" heart. If your heart is dirty, unseen beings or being who are opposite of GOD is likely dwelling in it, controlling you like a puppet

Where does God come from? Was there something before God came into existence? Why some people imply masculinity why it wouldn't have both?

It is strange that some say God is omniscient and omnipresent but try to limit to their limited human comprehension or even gender.
1925  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Bitmain & Canaan To Release 5nm chip ASIC Miners in Q1 2020! on: February 14, 2020, 03:30:33 PM
I understand where you are coming from, but you are missing one key point, which is:

Home-friendly Miners > work just fine for industrial mining farms.
Industrial Miners > do not work for home.

Since efficiency is nearly 100% the same, what would stop Bitmain from reducing the risk of price collapsing prior/after the halving where only home miners might be able to survive the hit?

Let's assume you have an efficient chip and can build a miner that does 20w/th , you can make

3000 watts and get 150th miner

Or

2000 watts and get 100th miner

The latter could be sold to both home and industrial miners, it will of course be a little bit more expensive as in price per terahash since the cost of the frame, fans and wires will be nearly the same for both gears, but the first option limits your potential clients.

I don't know what I don't know, but if Bitmain thinks that there is a 30% chance the following halving will bring industrial mining down, they would really start focusing on home-friendly mining gears.

Their last home friendly miner was the R4, unlike the S7LN this miner used a vertical airflow, where all the industrial miners use horizontal airflow. It does not sit well in a warehouse rack. And if you place it horizontal it will prematurely die due to insufficient airflow and or overstress one of the boards (upper half, or the one above depending). Of course it didn't help some batches had poor soldering...

To them, the home mining market is negligible, which is why they didn't bother anymore.

But at least there is an opportunity for modders or those brave souls that extract the chips and re-purpose the things for the home...

BTW a "home" miner should not go above 1600w @ 115v or 800w @ 230v. 2000w is definitely NOT home friendly Smiley
1926  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Bitmain Points ( A new feature, What is it) ? on: February 14, 2020, 03:09:37 PM
So Bitmain is finally going to put an end to the resale discount coupon market? By switching to "points" (like flying miles) and tie them to each customer account, they don't need to bother with the coupons anymore.

Given the blatant resale of coupons (even on Bitmain's official social media) its surprising they took so long, or maybe they didn't care or condone it?

Anyway coupon re-sellers will be sad. I thought for a moment they were going to issue a token too Smiley
1927  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: ANTBLEED VIRUS!!! CLONE on: February 14, 2020, 03:02:40 PM
You need to sd card flash and wipe the miner and reflash it and yes change password is wise but knock off all your miners as you do it so it doesn't get reinfected or

If you install our firmware from asic.to and run the virus scanner it can't disinfect that. You're describing the NightSwitcher virus. 90% chance that S9 came from china preloaded with malware.

So this virus is called NightSwitcher? Does it replicate itself, looking for miners with default passwords? Does it attack windows computers as well?

What else can you share about it?

I agree with wiping the nand using SD. What do you know about a malware that supposedly damages the nand storage entirely? Some people even claim it won't let boot from sd card anymore (i have always believed thats just a faulty sd reader slot).

People leaving the default password are a major part of the problem, there are even some countries planning to legislate against devices having a single default password (ie. wifi access points). I wonder if asic sales in those countries would then become illegal?

Human lazyness, the attackers favorite meal...
1928  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Antminer S9 classification on: February 14, 2020, 02:48:19 PM
I have had every single model of the Antminer 9 series and speaking from personal experience, this is how I rank them.

1-S9j
2-S9i
3-S9
4-S9e
...
9999- S9k

I would put the S9e somewhere at the top if the price per TH was not taken into consideration because the S9e runs pretty cool and it seems to be robust so far.

The S9k is the most terrible machine, not just the worst S9 version, not just the worst ASIC, it is IMO the WORST machine that was ever made by human beings.

Maybe the k are all the left over low yield chips that Bitmain wants to get rid from their inventories before ceasing S9 sales?

I agree with your list, its pretty accurate in my opinion.
1929  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: ckpool.org ZERO FEE SPLNS no registration mining pool US/DE/CN on: February 14, 2020, 02:42:54 PM
We have links on our site and do some twitter posts every so often.

I love hearing that ckpool doesn't have the bells and whistles others have when others lack so much.
Nothing is as anonymous, no fee, others hold your coins for you, and getting paid from coinbase to node has no better joy than seeing a pick axe on your core UI.

Essentially with stratum protocol as it is you can't do better. Largest hashers always get their money and little guys will creep into payout eventually. Same as a pool who would charge you to hold your coins anyway, likely with a minimum withdrawal.

That minimal withdrawal is terrible for the smaller miner. Many of those pools only allow 0.01₿ withdraws which can easily take a couple of months with a 10THs miner.

And most take a 4% pool fee...

I don't know what better improvements could stratum have, is the Slush v2 proposal worth it? I personally like the compression part, or having your farm use a (local) proxy that does it for you.
1930  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin's transaction fee lowered by 4000% on: February 14, 2020, 02:18:08 PM
Segwit and batching aren't responsible for a 4000% drop, i guess you're just comparing the fees of a large transaction in the middle of the 2017 spam attack

The 3 causes for the high fees were the spam attack, the constantly big change in price (triggering various bots) and the lack of batching.
I remember that Coinbase and other "friends of Roger Ver" were accused to cause quite a problem (some have telling numbers of 70% or so for the transactions) by refusing to implement batching.. or at least delaying it.

Off-topic #1. BCash narrative is still sometimes based on "cheap fees" exactly because of this.
Off-topic #2. I don't know why bitcoiners still use Coinbase when they were known for favoring BCash and working against Bitcoin.


But I have to agree that excepting the spam attack period the mempool had its cooldown periods (sooner or later).
Even now a big variation in price causes a spike in fees, but it's smaller and it's usually getting absorbed within a day. We'll see what happens in the next FOMO bubble.

Yes i remember it was right after the price peak of 2017, in January 2018 a low fee transaction could easily take weeks or even a whole month, those days were very crazy, who knows if that also fueled the bear sentiment, and sure certain altcoin promoters have used that excuse ever since.

Still, after around March 2018 such a transfer fee crisis has never occurred again. And then came Segwit etc.

As for coinbase i'm sure i said it back then, it was a very American thing. Elsewhere its irrelevant, but Americans love it for whatever reason.


The other problem i see with transaction prices is that by then many wallets had the "auto detect the optimal fee so it takes n block(s) to confirm". Too many wallets have that enabled by default, so it isn't particularly difficult to provoke a chain reaction that feedbacks it self Its like the attackers have a wiling army of bots worsening the problem.

Yes, once upon a time wallets didn't guess anything, the transfer price was always manually set and things worked fine. But now they all want to "confirm within the next block"...

This is not even Bitcoin's fault but most Bitcoin wallets happily adopted the practice, contributing to the problem. This is why i keep telling people to always force the wallet to use 1 sat/B unless its absolutely urgent. If you plan ahead you can do 99% of your transactions without a hurry, relax and check again tomorrow and for sure your coins will be there, no matter if you paid 3¢ or 1$ in transaction fees.

And when the time comes when we can finally have 0.1 sat/B transactions, I'll switch to manually always use that too.

One welcome side effect of the LN adoption is that it should reduce the onchain traffic somewhat. Again, i would leave that only for exceptional situations (like using a credit card for emergencies only).
1931  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin will Be 1M$ if all countries Ban it on: February 14, 2020, 01:57:46 PM
IF the whole world ban BTC at first BTC will Crash very hard but only for a few month, Demand will be increased while there will be no Legal Seller, All trade will go to undergrand and  Black market and illegal traffic, sellers will start to selling BTC 50 X more than current price. BTC will be more expensive, As simple as that,
That was an answer for these who said BTC will die if whole world Ban it, So no BTC never Die.

If all countries decide to ban Bitcoin, things may not go that easy for the price. In a situation like that, there would be noone to be able to use Bitcoin for anything and it would create a chaos for the market.

This is factually incorrect. Banning something does not stop it, it merely forces it underground, and probably increases its price in the market because its harder to buy or sale.

Of course it would harm exchanging, but then again people could start using it for what it was intended for, and stop exchanging it so much. Yes it was intended to pay and be paid with...

It would probably backfire the politicians. You can already see countries that "ban" bitcoin are simply telling wealth to go away, and indeed they: A) Couldn't actually completely stop their people from using it, and B) worsened their economy, in short having the worst of both world. Well that is a typical result of a politician decision maker.

Out of 200ish countries only about 15 have openly legislated against Bitcoin, the vast majority have not taken position and many have regulated it, but even in those not everyone will follow the rules, simply because its possible to find "ways" around them. (Ie. buy used asic equipment and mine bitcoin to obtain some without KYC).
1932  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin miner fees on: February 14, 2020, 05:07:05 AM
If i sent $ 100 ,would it be the same fee ? Kraken is no fee to deposit , so is the miner fee roughly% 0.5  ?     Therefor, i need some guidance ,before i send larger amount. Any advice greatly appreciated . Smiley Smiley Smiley
Even if you had sent $1 Million at that very same time, the fee would have been the same. The fees just vary from time to time depending on the state of the network i.e depending on how busy it is and also the size of your transaction data in bytes

Not if you don't let the wallet "guess" it, a decent wallet would let you manually choose the fee, and for most situations the smallest of 1 sat/B is good enough.

Number of inputs matter, and larger amounts tend to come from more inputs, but at 1 sat/B that million dollar transfer would probably cost a few cents.

Also sending from bech32 addresses (bc1q+) is cheaper.
1933  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [20-400PH] KanoPool kano.is 0.9% fee 0.1BTC bonus 🐈 US,NL,JP,NYA,OR,SG on: February 14, 2020, 04:37:33 AM
Thanks a lot for the information you provided!  I really appreciate it!  And yes I’ve had one of the worst days in BTC mining this morning when I woke up I found out that the hacker was able to ruin 14 more S9’s!!!!!  14 machines gone in a minute!  Apparently he works somewhere in China in the day time when it is night here and I wake up to a surprise!  Today’s surprise was SHOCKING!

I have already contacted Bitmain for an advice on what to do and if there is a way that I can repair the controllers by uploading a newer firmware because these machines were from 2017-2018.  So I will be waiting for their reply as soon as they start their workday.

At first he hacked 3 so I just disconnected the router connected to my modem thinking that it was causing the problem, since the SSID wasn’t hidden unlike my modem SSID.  But when I realized that 14 more are mining for him this morning I started to dig in the log of the modem itself and found about 22 of these Dos Smurf attacks!!! From February second to today’s morning!

2020-02-04 09:00:49 [Error][Alarm-Log] AlarmID:303500,AlarmLevel:Error,DoS attack. Type: smurf. Source IP address: 192.168.1.102. Destination IP address: 192.168.1.255. Source MAC address:


So I contacted the the ISP provider and they confirmed me that I was hacked by WiFi although I’m not sure how since the SSID was hidden.  Remotely they have reset everything and I’ve changed all of the passwords.  Even on the miners themselves!  But I did that yesterday and apparently that didn’t help.  Also the modem  had a specific check box for preventing these Dos smurf attacks but apparently that didn’t work.

I’m closely monitoring the network tonight to see if there will be any more attacks on my modem, because now I just have a few miners running  Embarrassed

Maybe someone had clicked a wrong link from one of the devices who knows.

And I did noticed that the only ones that he wasn’t able to hack (so far) are the last ones that I got so they must have had a newer firmware protecting them from being hacked like that.

All my hope is on Bitmain now and that they answer soon and maybe be able to find a solution for me.  Start them with a preloaded firmware on a sd card or just try to upload it through my network on them, I really don’t know but I am afraid to even turn the power on the ones that have been compromised now, thinking that if it was hacked then maybe he can hack my whole new reseted network again and I will loose the rest of the miners?  Do you think it is safe to connect one of them to my fresh network or I shouldn’t even try?  Or what do you think?

If the Bitmain won’t be able to help me with a firmware upgrade then I really don’t care what I have to load on a Sd card and where it will mine as long as they just don’t sit around like furniture.  Now 17-18 have been ruined!  Undecided Cry Cry Cry Cry

Please let me know your thoughts guys I’d really appreciate if someone with the knowledge be able to give an advice  Undecided  Cry Cry Cry Cry

Oh i see they got in using your wifi. I'm sorry to tell you this, maybe its not common knowledge? hiding the SSID (not broadcasting its name), or using the wifi's mac address whitelist doesn't stop people from getting in. Only a good password and WPA2 (now WPA3) helps. I for example use a random generated 63 char (the max wpa2 takes) and make a qrcode of that.

Well i guess people normally never try the security tools involved but let me tell you if your wifi is ON it can be picked up by anything in range (and range can be improved with directional antennas). Never use simple passwords anywhere, go ahead and try a password manager (that is, a Free and Open Source program such as KeePassXC to manage your passwords, NOT any sort of online site or service).

Bitmain should point you to their SD recovery procedure and if that doesn't work you would have to purchase controllers or switch pools (if the bOS thing worked, sometimes the controller also refuses to boot from SD (jumper jp4).

I would guess you never changed your SSH password on these (2017/18) and they used the default (root or admin).

Definitely isolate your miners from your family network.
1934  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [30-400PH] KanoPool kano.is 0.9%fee 3.9of10BTC giveaway 🐈 US,NL,JP,NYA,OR,SG on: February 13, 2020, 03:50:25 PM
The wording is VERY clear:

"Only use firmware provided by the miner manufacturer."
With that cleared out lets move into something else:

Just to confirm, Are native segwit bech32 addresses still invalid on KanoPool?
Never got an answer, but i tried setting up one recently and it apparently works now. Can anybody else confirm using bech32 (bc1q+) addresses with this pool are working correctly and receiving payments?
1935  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin a Safe Haven for Your Money? on: February 13, 2020, 03:37:57 PM
From a security point of view for Bitcoin funds, the cold wallet is always recommended, the Exchanges are also safe in some ways, there will always be vulnerabilities, for the issue in general, cryptocurrencies or bitcoin in this case it turns out to be Very safe at the moment in countries with high inflation and with everything that has triggered in China by the epidemic makes people rely more on Bitcoin as a safe haven.

Its definitely a safe haven when the alternative is the bolivar or the petro. One is the fiat with the world's worst inflation and the other is a "crypto" so centralized it makes ripple look tame, also managed by the very same people that induced the hyperinflation and are giving it the treatment. Sure some people are (somehow) simply getting US dollars or Euros, and the gov now wants to tax them 25%, so its back to "parallel" market fees again... Yes they also want to tax that to bitcoin and anything else non petro. Its their "way" of stimulating petro use, by intimidation or force (yet another reason to dislike gov made altcoins). Some people seem to forget it was their own gov that made and control their fiat in the first place...

Bitcoin and others are instant. Getting foreign currency? Not so much. Storing them in a cold wallet (a paper with seed words) is far safer than using a bank that can be seized by the gov at any time, because they can and they have the guns and you don't.

Of course this also means you have to be careful using or exchanging Bitcoin, as those are the weak points which is not truly bitcoin's fault but the fact that not everyone is a directly accepting it yet. If people here used bitcoins the way they are now using foreign currencies, a new world would open. But people are hard to change.
1936  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Google Searches of Bitcoin on: February 13, 2020, 03:07:26 PM
Which could trigger price movement up or it won't Cheesy.
You never know, if 33% is enough to make ripple effect or it needs 50-70%.
Yes it could trigger IMO, ripple effect doesn't really concern the possibility of such surge especially if the market is full of hype. Like the halving of btc which literally gain so much effect since the start of 2020.
And I think, they are in between now whether to buy before it pumps more or wait until it dips.

Still weighing if the time is actually good and can produce a good profits if they turn or decided to buy now. But only traders can specifically predict which track btc could dive. For now, I think better yet to trade minimal btc and keep holding cause halving is just 3months away. I dont know if the market can still pullback in spite of continuous pump.

I don't think so, the time was good before everybody else got interested, once that happens it is too late. If this brings a bull run it will correct but the chances of correction increase when more and more people try to get in (late).

If you quietly invested before the 33% increase, back when it felt "boring" (sideways?) then now you could be deciding if taking profit or wait some more.
1937  Other / Off-topic / Re: One menu for all pages (HTML discussion) on: February 12, 2020, 06:56:47 PM
I think something like this can easily be done using PHP or similar server side code. If you do it running the code in the client browser instead, like it would if you use that .js, you risk lowering functionality in browsers that refuse or cant execute client code.

It also happens to be worse for the user, making their computer / device slower or consume more power. Of course that does offload your server computing resources...
1938  Other / Archival / Re: Best Laptop for crypto? on: February 12, 2020, 06:49:36 PM
Yes its super easy, its just dd image device. In windows there are a bunch of tools that do the same, such as rufus or windd.

Then you reboot the computer and tell it to boot from that, you probably need to reboot into bios/uefi and tell it to boot from the usb. Fast/secure boot probably needs to be disabled.

As for running nodes, just run them trimmed if your storage is low. You still need to wait the 250g download for Bitcoin alone. Once in sync bandwidth use shouldn't be much, but beware of the initial download (don't do it on metered connections).
Thank you for the answer! But why can't I use the initial load on the measurement connections?

Of course you can, just prepare to pay for at least 250g worth of data...

Unless your service also imposes data limits. Its not just money, depending on country and place.

Metered mobile data plans tend to get VERY expensive real fast. If your country is "nice", you may even have an unlimited plan, that would be the best.

You can also download the blockchain elsewhere, a place without limits, and copy it manually to your node, then the syncing would be much more cheaper.

Or download the blockchain from satellite if you can somehow get the antenna and required device.
1939  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [20-400PH] KanoPool kano.is 0.9% fee 0.1BTC bonus 🐈 US,NL,JP,NYA,OR,SG on: February 12, 2020, 06:22:57 PM
Um, look at the Kanopool home page. The ban on 3rd party is in big bold red letters and has been a long standing policy for a few years.
A couple reasons for it:
Most violate the CGminers' Open Source license
Despite many requests for it - NO 3rd parts firmware provider has ever given*any* proof that the firmware finds BTC blocks nor given any proof of testing for more than it does not crash but does what they claim (control of clocking, voltage adj, fans etc)


Then it wouldn't apply to bOS since the source is available and you could test it yourself. For this reason i don't believe it unless Kano himself says so.
1940  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [20-400PH] KanoPool kano.is 0.9% fee 0.1BTC bonus 🐈 US,NL,JP,NYA,OR,SG on: February 12, 2020, 05:37:21 PM
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and if that doesn't cure it try booting BraiinsOS from the sd card and see if they work that way its better to sacrifice a cheap (small) sd card than a controller
Do be aware that for several reasons using non-OEM firmware is not allowed here.

Use Braiins as a test, fine, but prolonged usage will get you kicked from the pool.

So either he can leave the pool, or lose the miners. Nice. I'd like Kano to write here that using bOS with his pool leads to banning, just so things are official and people can take an informed decision.

The reason for the bOS test is because there is apparently some malware that damages the nand storage, so you can no longer boot from it but could still boot from SD. Obviously there is no Bitmain firmware that runs directly from SD, it only tries copying itself into nand, but bOS can run fine without installing it into nand.

While i have known before that Kano dislikes third party firmware, i have yet to read that he is explicitly banning bOS, so lets have that clarified and straightened out of the way please. The current bOS from June 2019 still uses classic cgminer, versions from 2020 will move to bosminer; both are Free and Open Source software that you can audit to your heart content, unlike the typical dev fee mod.
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