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1921  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Smart Contracts - just a buzzword or are they applicable to the real world? on: August 20, 2018, 03:18:40 PM
There are some classical examples:
- An airline company that sells tickets online through a smart contract. The client will be refunded by x% if the flight departs or arrives at destination with more than n hours delay.
- A farmer buys an insurance to cover him from bad weather. If the minimum temperature from dayStart to dayEnd will be more than n day below zero degrees C the farmer will cash a certain amount.

As you can see the above examples relies on Oracles in charge to update the "Virtual world" with data coming from the "Real world". And that's another great subject to debate.

The problem with these 2 examples is rather straightforward though: What's the benefit of smart contracts in those scenarios?

- When buying an airline ticket from an airline company, you are already relying on a centralized service while not using a middle-man. Except for payments, obviously, but that's where plain old cryptocurrencies would suffice as well. Adding a smart contract into the mix only increases complexity while the benefit is...?

- Same when buying an insurance. The farmer is already dealing with an insurance company directly, so a smart contract would only add complexity. Granted, one could imagine a crowdfunded, free-market type of decentralized insurance, but the viability of such an approach would be a discussion of its own.

The challenge, when applying smart contracts, is that they should not only work -- which is already hard in its own right. Smart contracts need to be applied to use cases where they work better than what already exists.
1922  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Smart Contracts - just a buzzword or are they applicable to the real world? on: August 20, 2018, 12:43:46 PM
Overhyped -- maybe. But I think this buzz is mostly based on a misunderstanding which problems a smart contract (and blockchains, for that matter) can and can't solve.

I doubt that smart contracts will ever go beyond decentralized monies and facilitating p2p commerce / trading; however these use cases alone could already prove groundbreaking.

If one could trade classical stocks / securities and handle their dividends with the ease of ICO tokens that would be quite revolutionary, at least in my book. After all there's a massive overhead of brokers and bankers one could get rid of by replacing them with nearly frictionless p2p trading.

On the more futuristic side of things I do think it's imaginable that further down the road one (or even both) of the peers could be replaced by a machine. In the simplest case, this could be a casino script. In a more optimistic case, one could imagine a future iteration of current voice assistants taking care of more complex (financial) tasks. The latter being a more speculative use case, obviously.

More realistically, however, I think the most important role that smart contracts will play, will be the part of the unsexy utility technology, doing the heavy lifting in the back. Prime example being Lightning Network and other protocol layers (eg. token / asset layers, at which point we're back at the question of the viability of smart contracts handling digital assets).
1923  Economy / Gambling / Re: SafeDICE.com ★ Bitcoin Dice ★ Monero ★ 0.5% Edge ★ Fast Cashout ★ Since 2014 on: August 19, 2018, 09:26:45 AM
Hi, I need help from Safedice’s support. I can’t login anymore because I didn’t set a password. Anyone know how I can reach their support? Thanks


Send them an email to safedice@protonmail.ch, as stated in OP:

Need Help/Support?
In the case that you may need assistance while playing at SafeDice, we’re here to help! Please send an email to safedice@protonmail.ch with details of your support inquiry - For the quickest turnaround times, please be sure to include ALL necessary information about your support issue/request. Furthermore, feel free to check out our FAQ for answers to general questions regarding the site and its features.

From what I've seen support is slow at times, but usually able to help.
1924  Other / Meta / Re: Is this the new low in posting here. on: August 18, 2018, 12:02:28 PM
Though maybe we should leave it be and have a bot that automatically nukes any phrases that are proposed in there.

Especially since most of these phrases are uniquely broken, making it easy to discern phrase copy / pasters from your run-off-the-mill shitposter.

Remember kids, before investing in a new project, always ask yourself this: "It your token is ERC-20?"
1925  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: "Why blockchain needs cryptocurrency?" on: August 17, 2018, 10:18:04 AM
Guess you meant "Why Cryptocurrency needs Blockchain."

Blockchain can actually exist without Cryptocurrency, not sure if Cryptocurrency as we know it can exist without Blockchain.

There's also DAG-based coins though (of debatable merit of course, but that's a different discussion).

And I'm still not sure how one would secure a blockchain without incentivising miners / stakers by means of a native token (or by building on top of an existing cryptocurrency).


Cryptocurrency needs Blockchain
 [...]
-  For anonymity

Blockchains are transparent by design. Anonymity is achieved by specialized transaction formats,.


[...]
- To avoid double-spending

Blockchains don't prevent double-spending. PoW does. (and arguably other forms of Proof-of-Resource such as PoS)
1926  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Is blockchain really needed for security? on: August 17, 2018, 10:00:03 AM
I get that blockchains enable immutable data to be recorded, so that I suppose hackers can't delete or write over data on the block.
But what are the other benefits of blockchain for security? I mean, you could make a distributed secure database that doesn't need blockchain right?

You can make a "distributed secure database" (they already exist), but you can't make one in an environment where you don't trust the participants. The advantage of a blockchain is that anyone can participate.

Precisely. It all depends on the use case.

Blockchains shine when it comes to storing transactional data in a public ledger that anyone can read / write to, ie. an adversarial environment. If you are operating within a trusted environment, ie. one where the permission levels of each user is centrally administered (eg. an internal company database) other solutions will fit the bill much better.

Being a sort of distributed database is not what makes blockchains special, it's that it allows full public read and write access while remaining reasonably secure.
1927  Economy / Economics / Re: 100 ways to get Bitcoin, collected on: August 16, 2018, 03:58:31 PM
To any newcomers reading this list of recommendations: Be especially wary of the following points, those are a great way to fall for scams and lose money:

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3. Mine Bitcoins or other cryptocurrencies. [...] You can also try Bitcoin mining on any device with internet browser: on your computer, laptop or smartphone.

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33. Try to participate in very risky High Yield Investment Programs.

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58. Try cloud mining.

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72. Borrow money for the purchase of cryptocurrencies.

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73. Win Bitcoin in the lottery.

No... just, no.
1928  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: A Question About Paper Wallet on: August 16, 2018, 02:29:32 PM
Hello, can ı use a paper wallet twice ?

Yes you can, but whether you should depends.

As long as you are only receiving coins, there's little wrong with reusing your paper wallet (except for potential privacy concerns as pointed out by Velkro).

Once you import the private key of your paper wallet to spend coins, there's 2 things to be aware of:

1) Depending on what wallet and which configuration you use, the remainder of your balance might get sent to a change address (as mentioned by biggNY)

2) Once you import your private key to an online device (such as an internet connected laptop or smartphone), you lose all benefits of cold storage (ie. your cold storage paper wallet is now only as secure as a regular hot wallet).

For security reasons I personally wouldn't reuse a paper wallet after I have swiped the private key, but that depends on your personal preference and the amount at risk I guess.
1929  Economy / Economics / Re: What is the reason of this sudden decline in BTC price? on: August 16, 2018, 01:24:34 PM
Every passing month we hope that the cryptocurrency will go towards stability but our moral goes down whenever the prices plummet suddenly.

Speak for yourself! Wink


Best case we'll see an echo of the recent bullrun soon and have a scenario like the two bubbles of 2013.

Worst case we're at the verge of a new crypto winter such as the one from 2014 - 2016 and crypto will live to see another day eventually.

Worst worst case crypto is dead for good and we should all get away from our screens and out for some fresh air.


I personally don't see crypto dying any time soon, so I'll just have a nice cold pint and wait for all of this to blow over.
1930  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Stack size on: August 16, 2018, 10:09:03 AM
The maximum stack size for a Bitcoin script to be still considered valid is 1000:

Code:
// Maximum number of values on script interpreter stack
static const int MAX_STACK_SIZE = 1000;


Depending on your script you are more likely to run into the maximum script size in bytes though:

Code:
// Maximum script length in bytes
static const int MAX_SCRIPT_SIZE = 10000;


For reference:

https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/78dae8caccd82cfbfd76557f1fb7d7557c7b5edb/src/script/script.h

https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/78dae8caccd82cfbfd76557f1fb7d7557c7b5edb/src/script/interpreter.cpp
1931  Other / Meta / Re: Is Bitcoin Talk's love affair with shitcoins over? on: August 16, 2018, 08:06:10 AM
Nah... I think you're giving people too much credit. I'm pretty sure that as soon as Bitcoin stabilizes and starts recovering, we'll see a lot of money flowing into alts again.

The fear of already having missed the Bitcoin train is too big. The lure of investing in "the next Bitcoin" is too strong.

Besides, didn't you get the memo that Bitcoin is old tech? /s
1932  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: How could a separate Colored Coin Lightning Network work? on: August 15, 2018, 09:56:14 AM
Elwar, was the intention of colored coins not to "black list" certain coins on a network. Say, someone hacked an exchange and you wanted to "blacklist" those coins, then you would tag them and people will be flagged if they received those coins.

I think the debate around colored coins was more about the negative misuse of those powers or am I confusing this concept with something else?

Would a Colored Coin LN be good or bad and who would be making the decisions? <The owner of the channel or some centralized authority?> 


I think you are referring to "taint". Tainted coins is / was the concept of marking coins that were part of a criminal activity.

The idea behind colored coins is to allow for tokens / transferrable ownership rights via (in this case) Bitcoin transactions. Colored coins were pretty much the predecessor of Ethereum tokens, although I might be oversimplifying things a bit.
1933  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Invest in Crypto or Na? on: August 14, 2018, 05:45:15 PM
[...] Invest in something else you understand instead.

Note: This applies to classical markets as well, albeit brokers and banks are usually obliged to prevent you from buying assets beyond your experience and risk profile (at least in Europe). Not that this prevents the willing from bad financial decisions (or banks from pushing questionable mutual funds on the uninformed). In short: Know what you're buying.
1934  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Invest in Crypto or Na? on: August 14, 2018, 03:58:04 PM
What are the  advantages to invest in cryptocurrency rather than fiat currency?

...I'm not sure how you'd "invest" in fiat currency, unless you're a friend of forex trading.

If you mean advantages of cryptocurrency investments vs investing in classical stock markets / bonds: I guess higher growth potential, little correlation between crypto and classical markets allowing for hedging opportunities and -- depending on your personal background -- lower barrier of entry. Oh, and of course a higher degree of sovereignty, assuming you handle your crypto yourself. The downside of crypto being a high-risk environment, both in terms of volatility and scams should be clear from the get-go as well though.


Considering the fact the market for cryptocurrency are red tide and how will it recover?

In time. Assuming it does.


What is the fastest liquidity in terms of daily volume? Please share your thoughts and ideas thank you.

Liquidity depends on the stocks and the coins you trade. Fastness depends on whether you have direct access to one of the stock markets, which usually doesn't come cheap. If for trading stocks you have to go through a broker like pretty much everyone else, then trading crypto is usually much faster. That is, crypto trading offers more of a level playfield than stock trading.



Fiat has nothing of value behind it. It has value because people use it and trust it to conduct transactions. Once it was moved off the gold/silver standard it lost all value.

Cryptocurrency is backed by something tangible, (Blockchain Technology).

Huge difference between something that has no inherent value and something that does.

I think I get what you're saying, but I'm not sure I'd go as far as calling "blockchain technology" tangible ascribing inherent value to precious metals and cryptocurrencies. Obviously the inherent value of previous metals and cryptocurrencies is higher than that of fiat currencies but still its valuations stem from their rarity rather than their inherent properties.
1935  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: How could a separate Colored Coin Lightning Network work? on: August 14, 2018, 03:05:09 PM
Would it be possible to create a colored coin exclusive Lightning Network?

Say I proclaim that all satoshis coming from address "1XYZ..." are poker chips to be used for some decentralized online casinos (or whichever).

[...]

As far as I'm aware of asset ownership protocol layers on top of Bitcoin (eg. XCP, OMNI) don't rely on a source address for its "color" but rather some additional meta-data that is part of the (on-chain) Bitcoin transaction. Whether this form of meta-data is compatible with Lightning Network is a different question of course, but at least as far as XCP is concerned there seems to be efforts being made:

https://counterparty.io/docs/paymentchannels-lightning-faq/

(assuming it's still current, I'm not actively tracking Counterparty anymore)


There have been other projects working on LN-based colored coins as well:
https://www.coindesk.com/bitcoins-lightning-network-now-digital-asset-compatible/

However the project mentioned in this article seems to have moved to Ethereum since then.


So it seems like LN-enabled colored coins have been in the realm of possibility since early LN drafts, I'm not sure whether the current protocol spec still allows for it though.
1936  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: "Why blockchain needs cryptocurrency?" on: August 14, 2018, 12:14:27 PM
Blockchain doesn't need any cryptocurrency. You also can realize projects of services, documents and goods and just data f.e. for managing passwords and documents for governments, services, insurances and more. [...]

Serious question -- can you give an example for a blockchain that enables any of these use cases while relying on neither (a) a native currency nor (b) a third party service provider securing said blockchain?
There are many projects around without cryptocurrency for example in the section "self souvereign identity" f.e. sovrin, uport, blockstack etc. [...]

Both Sovrin and Blockstack rely on tokens ie. a native cryptocurrency.

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The Sovrin token addresses all three problems by providing a built-in incentive for the privacy-preserving value exchange of digital credentials.
https://sovrin.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Sovrin-Protocol-and-Token-White-Paper.pdf

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Blockchain protocol tokens serve two purposes today: they protect scarce network resources without introducing centralized gatekeepers, and they incentivize desirable behavior in network participants.
https://blockstack.com/tokenpaper.pdf


uPort is built on top of Ethereum, ie. relying on a cryptocurrency-based blockchain for its security.

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uPort's open identity network allows users to register their own identity on Ethereum independent from any centralized authority.
https://developer.uport.me/overview


While their main use case is not monetary transactions, all three rely on either being a cryptocurrency as well (Sovrin, Blockstack) or on running on top of a blockchain that is secured by cryptocurrency (uPort). So we still only have examples of cryptocurrency-dependent blockchains :X
1937  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Help. Blockchain.com Bip44 spec rpv2 API on: August 14, 2018, 09:19:16 AM
I have tried sending a small amount to all previous addresses then another amount to the address that was generated after but it still does not show in my wallet.

Blockchain.coms API just appeared to make things easier for us

Are the other small amounts that you sent to the previous addresses showing up in your wallet?

For future reference -- You can export the xPub key from hardware wallets such as the Trezor and Ledger as well. Generating and monitoring addresses from there takes a bit more legwork but keeps you in control of the funds instead of putting you at the mercy of a third party.
1938  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: How to connect to only one node at startup on: August 14, 2018, 08:56:08 AM
I have one other question. Is there a difference when it says outbound/inbound connection? If yes, how can I ensure that my wallet will always have inbound connection?
Theoretically, yes. Inbound connections are nodes that has initiated the connection and are connecting to your node. Outbound connections are connections initiated  by your node to other nodes. The polarity doesn't really matter; your node and their node are both receiving and relaying information.

You can port-forward TCP 8333 and other nodes will be able to find and connect to you.
How do you port-forward TCP 8333.... port-forward=8333?

If you are merely connecting to other devices within your own home network (as per OP) setting up port forwarding should not be required. You only need to set up port forwarding if you want to connect to other nodes on the internet, assuming the in and outgoing connections get blocked by your router.

To set up port forwarding on your router googling for the name of your router / router brand plus the phrase "port forwarding" should yield helpful results. For a more general guide, see here: https://www.wikihow.com/Set-Up-Port-Forwarding-on-a-Router
1939  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: "Why blockchain needs cryptocurrency?" on: August 13, 2018, 07:08:19 PM
Blockchain doesn't need any cryptocurrency. You also can realize projects of services, documents and goods and just data f.e. for managing passwords and documents for governments, services, insurances and more. [...]

Serious question -- can you give an example for a blockchain that enables any of these use cases while relying on neither (a) a native currency nor (b) a third party service provider securing said blockchain?

You may try to create one smart contract with the ethereum wallet and try how the ethereum blockchain ledger works. Most of the companies asking for private blockchain to maintain their database much secured.
Hence you can see any kind of project which is similar to that and work on it.

Ethereum has a native currency and private companies maintaining private blockchains are the very definition of third party service providers, so that doesn't answer my question. As per the question above I'd love to hear whether there's an example where neither is the case.
1940  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: "Why blockchain needs cryptocurrency?" on: August 13, 2018, 02:04:31 PM
Blockchain doesn't need any cryptocurrency. You also can realize projects of services, documents and goods and just data f.e. for managing passwords and documents for governments, services, insurances and more. [...]

Serious question -- can you give an example for a blockchain that enables any of these use cases while relying on neither (a) a native currency nor (b) a third party service provider securing said blockchain?
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