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1961  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How do you know when to stop? on: January 08, 2017, 02:14:25 PM
If you play gambling you should know your limits on playing it, Before i am playing gambling I set my self to a goal that should i stop playing it. Because if you want too many profit you might lost because of youe greedyness. Control is the key on winning and you need luck too.
That's something everyone should learn, we must know how to control ourselves in gambling, otherwise we will not be successful on it. Making a strategy is vital but without proper execution it will be useful for any gambler, it's pretty simple to figure out how to win but in the long run it's challenging.
i'm not sure about become successful in gambling can really be realised, it's rare thing. i have spent years to gamble and yet i didn't found myself in successful. better to stop any gambling activity you have ever did. and spend your time elsewhere. honestly i think gambling wouldn't give you a good money even you win good amount .
1962  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you can control your self when playing gambling? on: January 08, 2017, 01:37:54 PM
Having a control with yourself especially while gambling is the best attitude that a gambler needs. Because if you can control yourself then you will be able to limit your losses and not losing everything you have deposited in one site. Same in having a limit if you are winning because if you are winning and keep playing time will make you lose because in the long run house always win. As myself i already able to control myself because i learned from my own experience, in the past i kept losing because i am chasing my losses and i want to recover that is why instead of recovering i lose all my balance.
good for you mate realizing that in any how there's really a bad day for us and to keep playing while you are in a losing state will let you eaten by your emotions and you won't be able to think properly in result you will lose everything so that's the good start knowing how to control to avoid losing big and to earn even in a little profits.
never easy to have control in gambling , because it's always about emotion no matter when you are in good situation or bad. there always a feeling to keep playing to get more profit or at least just for the sake of chasing the losses. it's wrong , and in that kind situation your chance to control yourself almost zero , the power of having money quickly are so damn strong.
1963  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your average bet per game? on: January 08, 2017, 12:56:05 PM
My bet is different every game of gambling. when I gamble sports bet probably many of her but when I would use the gamble dice gambling strategies start with a small bet to reduce risk

If I am certain with the sports that I'm going to bet and especially with the team that I am going to support. I will bet higher than I can but that is just happening occasionally because most of the time I just bet 0.001 BTC and its a case to case basis with my analysis if I will going to increase my bet. I just bet what I afford to lose.
0.001 bitcoin are really small amount , you can't do much with that small amount bitcoin. also imagine if the bitcoin price equal to $10 per 1 bitcoin? would it be still worth for you? no i don't think so, that's why i prefer to use percentage and usd scale to gamble . max 25% of monthly earning i use it to gamble , so far so good.
1964  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your gambling strategy on: January 08, 2017, 12:41:30 PM
i cant treat like greedy , i control my feeling , and always play with small amount , i always win
You always win? believe me it's just you're getting a good luck. But indeed, if you can control yourself in gambling, you are a good gambler because self-control and discipline is the most important thing for you to succeed in gambling and that you're not addicted. But it is great if your victory continues for a long time, it means that your strategy was running smoothly.
He's just lying. You can't always win especially when you're gamble. Even though he's used highest win chance, he'll losing in the end. Maybe he's just gamble 0.001 btc (because he said he's just played with small amount) and always stop when he doubled his btc (I'm sure he was just lucky enough, there is no any strategy will works for a long time)
yeah any strategy used in gambling would never work if you try to apply it for long term, too much factor that supporting the house edge would always in benefit. and we are as gambler have 50/50 chance in short period but then if you play regularly for long term it could changed to 10% for you and 90% for the casino.
1965  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If money would not be a problem, would you still gamble? on: January 08, 2017, 12:29:06 PM
i only played for fun, because i know I can 't win in gambling and I have a limited money to gambling that is why i put a budget in gambling and never bet big game, but when money is not an issue then I will more enjoy gambling, maybe I will gambling the whole day and put a big bet every time I played
With a lot of money, it can give you freedom. You can gamble all you want as you are not worry even if you lose, and I think the thrill factor will slightly be lessen because there's no challenge anymore and it will not make you experiment a method to win.
yeah right the excitement is just like playing free bets if you have a lots of money and its not a matter anymore there's no challenge anymore people or gamblers find gambling as exciting because they are winning some good amount so for me if money doesn't matter it will lessen the fun and enjoyment.
you have wrong understanding about gambling , and i believe a lot of people have same understanding as you. if you have some friends that rich enough you can ask them what they feel gambling when they have rich enough. the answer would be , really for having fun , they are don't care much about money , things make gambling fun for them are more than just money factor.
1966  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will Bitcoin become centralized sometime in the future? on: January 05, 2017, 07:01:02 PM
To ensure some sort of centralisation never happen, the best way is still to spread the hashrate concentration to multiple new pools. I guess since there is more and more people coming into the game, and a lot more will come I think because of the price rise, actions will never have to be taken.
I doubt that will happen. The Chinese seem really persistent on controlling the Bitcoin mining industry. I think that something really big has to be done if we want Bitcoin to stay as a decentralized currency. And I don't see many more people getting into the Bitcoin mining business because the Chinese look like such a dominant force.
I think bitcoin will not become centralized. I really sure if more countries accept bitcoin china will not able to control/influence bitcoin price anymore. Anyway minning is not forever, isn't it?
even though there is mining period ended , there is a circulation after that and it's wouldn't make bitcoin centralized yeah. bitcoin would keep circulate on different hands . even i believe if then someone have the majority of total bitcoin available , i don't think it could change the fact that bitcoin are decentralized not centralized.
1967  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be considered a "high risk investment"? on: January 05, 2017, 06:42:25 PM
Investing and gambling is a matter of decision making so this things will always rely on you. How much to lose or to gain is depending on your bets , same with when or where will the betting be. High or low risk it doesn't matter. The risk is always there.
yes no doubt about that that there is always involve risk in gambling but it depend on your bet if you put high bet then there is high risk but the winning amount will also be much more as compare to low bet.
I think there are so many other factors also involved to this concern, like it depends on your way of gambling you play, your experience also matter there, your skill and your luck also responsible for that. So, I think not only gambling but trading and investment can also be consider as high risk investment .
i don't think gambling and trading are an investment generally , indeed all of them have a risk. but doesn't mean it's investment. gambling just have the highest risk among all of them due the fact that it's about game of chance like 49:50 or 50:50 while in trading it could be 20:80 or even better. pretty much different i think, not comparable.
Whatever definition we have in our mind, we will agree that we all do that because of money, we want to gamble due to the fact that we want fast and easy money, but it does not happen at all. While in trading, it's more legit to be consider as an investment because you invested your money with whatever asset you want (preferably bitcoin) and in times you can sell it for profit you trade it back to fiat.
a lot of similar things actually , but gambling of course aren't an investment . it's more to something that can earn you fast money with easy way. while investment required more work. both are indeed have same concept on getting additional money .
1968  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: January 05, 2017, 06:17:58 PM
It is always better to invest money than saving it. When you invest money, it grows  gradually. When you save money, it just remains idle. I invested my money in bitcoin when its price was $750 just two months before and now its price is $1088. Just see the difference.
When you save it's automatically invest too because when you save it's same like hold in your wallet and give you the interest from holding . It would be great if you do it both.

If you hold it in your wallet, there is no interest.
and of course it's different, saving money would just make your money lost the value while investing would make you have additional money (interest) , so far it's pretty clear to prefer to do investing rather than saving money. for those risk taker lover they would surely choose investment . saving are too mainstream , everyone can do it.
1969  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: January 05, 2017, 06:06:38 PM
You always should have your safety or limit to the amount you will gamble. Bet what you can afford to lose, so you wouldn't be emotional when it happens. You can risk in a smart way by betting on the right places. (For example for sportsbooks) To bet on the team or player that would have a sure win. So eventually, you will always have the advantage. You just have to be patient and don't be frustrated. Goodluck to people who gambles!
Im agree with you if you want to dont lose more money just budget your gambling money and dont be greedy.In my opinion the best and smart way to do is invite more friends and make them as your referrals.More referrals more earnings.They have many more gambling site have a referral program like bitdice.me
yes that is a good way of playing gambling. if you limit your gambling upto certain limit then you surely play gambling in a smart way, through this way you can reduce the risk of your losing money.
lol the best thing that people can do in gambling are to walk away from casino with a lot of money in your hand, that's what people call as a smart way to gamble. all just bullshit if you check out fom casino with empty hand isn't it? no matter what you did in casino as long as you are go home full of smile and take a lot of money , you have done a smart way to gamble.
1970  Economy / Gambling / Re: ⚽ Sportsbet.io ⚽ Over 25,000 mBTC in Monthly Leaderboards + Regular MONEYBACKS ⚽ on: January 05, 2017, 05:39:25 PM
Well Sportsbet. I pm'd your member here about this issue with my withdrawal and you did not both to even send me a pm back on it.
So I went to your live chat support like so many have mentioned to do when you are have having issues with your account. They tell me they can not help me.
So what now?
I want to be able to withdraw my winnings from my account but nobody from your site has been available to give me any resolution on this.
So now I am thinking since I want to withdraw double of what I wanted to when my withdrawal was cancelled yesterday by your site administrators,
You are not going to allow me to do it.

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You haven't even given me my moneyback from the EPL New year's promotion yet or you ever will?
Once all have been resolved and I have been paid what I have put into your site then I will post here the results.
If anymore excuses of not paying a customer of yours comes out of this then your reputation as a reliable & honest site will be the same as what cloudbet's has become here.

Hi LLec,

We are very sorry for the delay!  Angry

Please check your inbox, we have sent you a pm with further instructions Smiley

Cheers,
sportsbet.io

Why did you delay his withdrawal request? You need his identity proof and address proof? I heard your sote requires such things, which I consider unfair to bitcoiners, they play in bitcoin, anon is the spirit. No mpre censorship please

Almost all sites reserve the right to ask KYC verification if they think that there is something "special" with the account. In this case sportsbet as their terms they will ask you KYC verification for withdrawal exceeded or equivalent to 10btc or lower amount if it is needed.
And I dont think this issue is about verification thing as his withdrawal is far from 10btc. But to make it sure lets just wait for LLec to confirm what is happening with his withdrawal.
okay LLec problem almost done , i just wonder what was he did causing the withdrawal delayed as i have made withdrawal couple times (not much) and all went smooth . within 5 minutes withdrawal processed same amount everytime like 500mbtc to 1 btc. i never asked for KYC . sportsbet.io best and beast with its promo everymonth! however goodluck for everyone!
1971  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be profitable in long term ? on: January 05, 2017, 05:16:49 PM
On the average,we can all agree that gambling might not be profitable whether short term or long term because the final determination is to compare the overall winning with overall losses and that will happen if I have made up my mind to quit. However, what I will see as longterm is actually reducing the amount of losses made, thereby increasing the gains. For some games that relies on luck such as dice or high and low from now till ten years I will say the chances of winnings will still remain same but for games like PVP then number of years will count towards logterm profitability.

well the games like dice and others that you named here are purely based on luck, and this means you can not do anything to change the results. when you roll a dice you can win or lose and it doesn't matter if you have lost 1000000 times before that you can still lose.

but in games that are based on skills there is a totally different story going on. if you spend some time learning the skills needed for those games you can eventually turn them into a profitable thing. but it takes time.
yeah actually you would never success in a pure luck games like roulette, dice and any other similar games. you would always one step behind house edge, if you won 1 bitcoin today , and you would lost 2 bitcoin the next day and so on. but if you talking about poker and sportsbetting where bankroll management really work here in the long run, you can make it.
In that kind of games, it's better to set an amount to win then quit when you hit that, the reality will always strike if we do not know how to stop as in a games where's there's a house edge, we always lose in the long run. If you are lucky and you win big amount, you can transfer to other games and let's say you win 1 BTC, then it's already a good bankroll to start with a skilled based games.
rely on luck to win big amount in pure luck games aren't easy. even if you play then in skill based games there is a little chance only for you to win in the long run. so i would say that gambling aren't a way to make money easily in the long run like when you work in real life and get paid steady in long term. gambling works in different way.
1972  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: best live bet on: January 05, 2017, 05:09:56 PM
actually i don't have favourite live bet because i am moving from one site into another site for playing gambling and i want to have many experience in different gambling site.
that's right , i do the same too. but if you really looking for the highest odds and you will see there is a contrast difference among bitcoin sportsbetting sites and fiat sportsbetting. here in bitcoin sportsbrtting the one who have better odds in my opinion are nitrogensports and sporstbet.io and for the most flexible sportsbetting it's directbet.
Havent try using cloudbet mate? I think they also offer some live bets as well with planetsofbet im not sure if you are familiar with that sports house as i do some little gambling with using even small btc can be use if OP is just looking to have some fun and just little amount of btc to spare he can try using planetofbets but if he wanted to play big those three that you mention are the best to deal with.
since there is a lot of problem happened to cloudbet few months ago , i think  we have to avoid them for a while until they fix everything . over a year i guess i didn't use cloudbet since i found nitrogensports that provide me a very satisfying lines. and the most important are the withdrawal process almost instant and that's what always i looking for.
1973  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Should I invest in bitcoin casinos? on: January 05, 2017, 04:53:38 PM
I think it can depend on the site or casino where you want to invest your bitcoin, need to be very much careful as there may be some casino or gambling sites that can easily scam you, if you want still invest your money there then you must first get good information first and then you can try with only your affordable to lose money.

Some trusted sites even turn into the dark side in the past. There are some famous sites in the past that actually stole alot of bitcoin from their user investment. In the end when you trust your money in someone's hand then consider it not safe at all, afterall there is no guarantee to the safety of your money even in your own hand
but you can't equalize it all right? as long as the owner are well known at least in this forum like primedice , i think it's fine to entrust your money to an online casino/gambling site. if you have a big problem in gambling like an addiction, then to invest it on a casino ae a better option.
1974  Economy / Gambling / Re: ⚽ Sportsbet.io ⚽ Over 25,000 mBTC in Monthly Leaderboards + Regular MONEYBACKS ⚽ on: January 04, 2017, 01:12:34 PM
Well Sportsbet. I pm'd your member here about this issue with my withdrawal and you did not both to even send me a pm back on it.
So I went to your live chat support like so many have mentioned to do when you are have having issues with your account. They tell me they can not help me.
So what now?
I want to be able to withdraw my winnings from my account but nobody from your site has been available to give me any resolution on this.
So now I am thinking since I want to withdraw double of what I wanted to when my withdrawal was cancelled yesterday by your site administrators,
You are not going to allow me to do it.

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You haven't even given me my moneyback from the EPL New year's promotion yet or you ever will?
Once all have been resolved and I have been paid what I have put into your site then I will post here the results.
If anymore excuses of not paying a customer of yours comes out of this then your reputation as a reliable & honest site will be the same as what cloudbet's has become here.
what's the problem here? you can't make withdrawal? your account blocked due suspected as abuser or what? i haven't get any problem yet so far so good even the customer service respond quickly to your problem. and by the way have you try email them before?
1975  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Beta Bitcoin Casino on: January 04, 2017, 12:56:26 PM
i have recently register at your site to know more and trying it and indeed it took less than 2 minutes for signup and i was already have an account at there however i got 1000 MB on my balance and whether this is sigup bonus or not? and how much worth 1000 MB if in bitcoin
i guess it's just like a playing money , if you try to select live casino there is zero balance shown. however people would still have full of doubt on the site , anyone want to try deposit small amount? the site actually seems pretty good with ordinary platform , just need a little more touch of developer and it could be a good casino enough.
1976  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin Really The Future Of Money? on: January 04, 2017, 12:43:43 PM
maybe , if the government make it and approve it . Because i think some people in the lower class cant afford this bitcoin as a future money.

"some" people can mean hundreds of millions in very poor countries, maybe billions worldwide. It's not that they can't afford to buy it, but they either don't have a phone, a PC or even if they have one of them/both, they cannot afford electricity & internet connection. Think about Venezuela - who would be able to use Bitcoin there, when they can't even afford to buy food to eat?
 
that was a good example, if you look at zimbabwe and several africa countries who actively develop bitcoin business . isn't it make you wondering why? bitcoin are universal , there is no poor or rich . the one who need can have bitcoin in any way no matter there is hard place to get internet access or whatever.
1977  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you can control your self when playing gambling? on: January 04, 2017, 12:07:58 PM
i can control myself if busy, and thingfully times, but if there is freetime that i should be gain of my losing money back and booom

If you can't control yourself, than you have no thinking that in future you will be lose everything. It is a first step of destroy your money, and the second step you become addicted. So should choose right way, I mean, play gambling but not continuously do betting. Because definitely, every bet you win or lose, so if you lose first time, than accept it and left it, change your thinking that in every bet you want win.  
when you are on the table there is no something called control , everything just run automatically follows your guts. but yeah the key are to accept your losing , never chase anything after that. just walk away. in most case people never gamble responsibly , at first time they just want to gamble $50 but then they keep digging their wallet until empty.
1978  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be considered a "high risk investment"? on: January 04, 2017, 11:53:38 AM
Investing and gambling is a matter of decision making so this things will always rely on you. How much to lose or to gain is depending on your bets , same with when or where will the betting be. High or low risk it doesn't matter. The risk is always there.
yes no doubt about that that there is always involve risk in gambling but it depend on your bet if you put high bet then there is high risk but the winning amount will also be much more as compare to low bet.
I think there are so many other factors also involved to this concern, like it depends on your way of gambling you play, your experience also matter there, your skill and your luck also responsible for that. So, I think not only gambling but trading and investment can also be consider as high risk investment .
i don't think gambling and trading are an investment generally , indeed all of them have a risk. but doesn't mean it's investment. gambling just have the highest risk among all of them due the fact that it's about game of chance like 49:50 or 50:50 while in trading it could be 20:80 or even better. pretty much different i think, not comparable.
1979  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be profitable in long term ? on: January 04, 2017, 11:32:17 AM
On the average,we can all agree that gambling might not be profitable whether short term or long term because the final determination is to compare the overall winning with overall losses and that will happen if I have made up my mind to quit. However, what I will see as longterm is actually reducing the amount of losses made, thereby increasing the gains. For some games that relies on luck such as dice or high and low from now till ten years I will say the chances of winnings will still remain same but for games like PVP then number of years will count towards logterm profitability.

well the games like dice and others that you named here are purely based on luck, and this means you can not do anything to change the results. when you roll a dice you can win or lose and it doesn't matter if you have lost 1000000 times before that you can still lose.

but in games that are based on skills there is a totally different story going on. if you spend some time learning the skills needed for those games you can eventually turn them into a profitable thing. but it takes time.
yeah actually you would never success in a pure luck games like roulette, dice and any other similar games. you would always one step behind house edge, if you won 1 bitcoin today , and you would lost 2 bitcoin the next day and so on. but if you talking about poker and sportsbetting where bankroll management really work here in the long run, you can make it.
1980  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your best luck and worst luck gambling experience? on: January 04, 2017, 11:12:58 AM
When I hit 9900x after three rolls at a new seed is my best luck so far. And nowadays, whenever I changed my seed, I will use the first 3 rolls for 9900x hunt. And the worst part is when I had more than 100k reds while hunting 9900x and due to the system maintenance, I had to change my seed before I hit 9900x.
you must be kidding me , chasing 9900x for over 100k rolls . i just wondering how much base bet you put there/ if you did it for 0.0001 per 1 bet then you have spent 10 bitcoin , am i right? is it really worth to do some bet style like that? i really not a big fan of game like dice , but i do playing there sometimes , no luck there.
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