Actually it goes beyond being futile because mining with cpu and gpu shares nothing in common with modern mining of bitcoin and doesn't even teach you anything about mining. The CPU/GPU mining section of bitcoin is in the archived area of the forum. If you wish to mine altcoins and get help you can try in the altcoins section. If you continue to post about this in bitcoin your thread remains irrelevant in the bitcoin mining section and a moderator will eventually consider it offtopic enough to move to the archive area.
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Is this not something developers should sort out? This is an element of centralisation when pools can dictate their own rules on the rest of the network. A truly decentralise bitcoin should by default be the codes that process the rules and protocols.
No. You cannot dictate what transactions are included at all, only what rules they must abide by. To do so would require a hard fork and mandating what transactions will be going in would be an extremely unpopular move and suicide for a cryptocurrency that is trying to be open. You ? meaning me or miner? You said, "However there is absolutely nothing that says what any pool must include or how they must bias their transaction choices,." = miner can choose = dictate? The developers cannot dictate. I was talking about pools when I used the word dictate. We seem to not be communicating here. You asked "Is this not something developers should sort out" and I'm telling you they can't.
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Is this not something developers should sort out? This is an element of centralisation when pools can dictate their own rules on the rest of the network. A truly decentralise bitcoin should by default be the codes that process the rules and protocols.
No. You cannot dictate what transactions are included at all, only what rules they must abide by. To do so would require a hard fork and mandating what transactions will be going in would be an extremely unpopular move and suicide for a cryptocurrency that is trying to be open. You ? meaning me or miner? You said, "However there is absolutely nothing that says what any pool must include or how they must bias their transaction choices,." = miner can choose = dictate? The developers cannot dictate.
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Is this not something developers should sort out? This is an element of centralisation when pools can dictate their own rules on the rest of the network. A truly decentralise bitcoin should by default be the codes that process the rules and protocols.
No. You cannot dictate what transactions are included at all, only what rules they must abide by. To do so would require a hard fork and mandating what transactions will be going in would be an extremely unpopular move and suicide for a cryptocurrency that is trying to be open.
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Eh!! If pool don't prioritise segwit then it is an issue. We have no idea how the pools may react in the future.
Default rules in bitcoin core with segwit enabled bias towards segwit transactions by counting the amount of block space they use and since their signature verification is no longer in the block they are substantially smaller than traditional transactions (up to 4x) so if they use the default bitcoin core implementation they will bias towards segwit transactions by default. However there is absolutely nothing that says what any pool must include or how they must bias their transaction choices, so long as the transactions are valid by current rules - most pools run custom bitcoin daemons already and they probably have their own custom rules.
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Why on earth did you start a thread trying to dispel the nonsense of the march of the full time anti-core propaganda trolls and not make the thread self-moderated, hence inciting the very same morons back to post here? LOL.. no.. jesus if this thread was Self Moderated, they'd just start another thread and accuse me of having a Self Moderated thread!.. I know, right? But it gave me an excuse to call all the people I have on ignore morons. Then all you've really done is create yet another thread like all the other ones I'm afraid. They all end up looking the same.
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Why on earth did you start a thread trying to dispel the nonsense of the march of the full time anti-core propaganda trolls and not make the thread self-moderated, hence inciting the very same morons back to post here?
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The pool has now registered over 150 unique users, 131 of which have contributed hashes. Hopefully people are only using the one username as I've recommended which would imply quite a few people have tried mining here. Only a much smaller proportion have been mining consistently and continue to mine now and obviously we need more hashrate more than we need more users but it's reassuring to see more people trying it out. Let's bring down that first block so I can stop labelling the pool beta and that will hopefully bring more miners too.
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It's just peoples' familiarity with banks "taking care" of their money for them, which is ironic considering bitcoin is meant to abolish the need for banks...
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All mining pools use stratum for communicating these days. The stratum spec indicates that an update must be sent out within 2 minutes. Most pools send out updates every 60 seconds (ckpool based ones every 30 seconds). With each stratum update the block time is updated to the local clock time. Some mining hardware still rolls this time forward to increase the range of data it can hash without creating more base work to hash off, thus the time is artificially moved forwards - though this is less common these days. The bitcoin protocol allows time to be up to 10 minutes before and 2 hours after the current time which is why the rolling forwards is done. Thus the time in the block is only weakly correlated with the true time at best, and can be sometimes a long way off. Some blocks even have a time in the past compared to blocks that are mined before them.
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weird...all my miners show they are connected but I am getting a 404 on my stat page?
Are you checking workers? The workers page has been removed. Everything has been moved into the users pages.
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Hey CK, liking the new stats layout, definitely easier to read. I noticed you said some of the bestshare stats are broken, for me it's my bestever stat. It used to be 870,000,000ish and now it's 38,000,000. The problem is that at work we have a bet that if I ever break 1,000,000,000 then we'll order in Domino's pizzas for lunch (and for every 1 bill after that), but with the stat broken I cannot track this Will my old share come back at a restart? Or will my new bestshare start populating or is it frozen? My address is 182vfhNY4wWM4d41S6czYGi3bNaWHjNFC9 Sorry about that, they should repopulate. I still need to debug what went wrong in the first place to prevent it happening again on the next restart as well. The DE server is currently having issues and I've lodged a technical support request. Please aim miners directly at the main pool in the interim which is unaffected.DE is back online.
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I'm reading that they could also do a remote reflash of the firmware and potentially brick the hardware.
that was correct in theory, but they've now patched the firmware, so it's a non-issue. ...for those who have updated their firmware. Which we all know doesn't happen often, most users set it and forget it. Which was the point of my post... likely the bulk of them out there are still vulnerable. Additionally I happen to know that certain functionality only existed on the first S9 firmware and many users are reluctant to change from it.
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Intermediate sized miner that hasn't been mining long! [2017-04-30 00:18:48.494] Possible block solve diff 682753705170.304688 ! [2017-04-30 00:18:48.718] BLOCK ACCEPTED! [2017-04-30 00:18:49.141] Solved and confirmed block 464144 by 1Px5TS9x71spXZUdLtF8AbVBbNFvrHGHXX [2017-04-30 00:18:49.141] User 1Px5TS9x71spXZUdLtF8AbVBbNFvrHGHXX:{"hashrate1m": "40.2T", "hashrate5m": "45T", "hashrate1hr": "40.3T", "hashrate1d": "4.05T", "hashrate7d": "785G"} [2017-04-30 00:18:49.141] Worker 1Px5TS9x71spXZUdLtF8AbVBbNFvrHGHXX:{"hashrate1m": "40.2T", "hashrate5m": "45T", "hashrate1hr": "40.3T", "hashrate1d": "4.05T", "hashrate7d": "785G"} [2017-04-30 00:18:49.142] Block solved after 952374010270 shares at 182.5% diff
https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/block/0000000000000000019c420cbea0a5cd1c9008ab45b9e887d6c3ce1fb3c9cafc
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Ugh, bad thunderstorms, have to shut em down . No problem. Never fear, your shares and HERP will be here for when you get back.
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Perhaps I wasn't looking at the right times, but this is the 1st day (in the last 10 or so) that I've seen it at under 330TH. I guess I didn't think that the 500-700TH that I seemed to see it "resting" at was that much rentals.
There's ~200TH from one user that comes and goes according to rentals etc. of his equipment which will not always be there which you're probably counting. I had counted on a larger miner who had said he would bring about 2PH when this pool was in the planning stages by the end of this month and was one of the reasons I was more interested in starting the pool up. However that appears to have fallen through since he's gone silent (which doesn't surprise me; most promises I've seen like this don't last ) so we have to get the hashrate up the slow and steady way.
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Pool's up to 50% diff this block. Hang in there and let's crack this thing to consider the pool stable instead of beta and move onto the next stage.
need more folks to come back, it's rough on my little hobby miners making up almost 1/3 of the hashrate. It's not a matter of "come back" since they never were here in the first place. The higher hashrate was nothing but early rentals from a very small number of people. If anything, the number of users on here is more than ever. Establishing a new pool from scratch and getting enough hashrate in this day and age is freaking hard, especially since most mining operations have fixed pools they mine at (mostly the Chinese consortium) leaving hardly any to select a pool the old fashioned way themselves.
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Pool's up to 50% diff this block. Hang in there and let's crack this thing to consider the pool stable instead of beta and move onto the next stage.
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4.) What incentives are there for miners/nodes on the network?
Miners and nodes are not directly involved in LN. However there can be LN nodes, i.e. people who have lots of channels open with other people so payments can be routed through him. Except for mining the opening and closing transactions which is still done by miners and broadcast as regular transactions by nodes.
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I have found 2 blocks on your pool, I would love to see my best share ever on my page. I do like the way my stats page is now, opposed to all one line. Makes it easier to find everything on mobile.
Is the "diff": 179.0" from the pool stats page mean the entire pool is at 179% of current diff?
I think you found the 2 blocks before I implemented the best ever statistic so there's no record of it Yes diff is pool percent of current network diff as OSM said.
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