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21  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Good news! Gavin Andresen: I think everybody should switch to talking in "bits" on: October 22, 2014, 08:29:25 PM
And what do you mean, 'so what'? That your own opinion counts for more than his? (That's what it sounds like). You think you can so easily dismiss his opinion? I got news for you, compared to him no one cares what you think.

The cool thing is that free people don't have to care what Gavin thinks if they don't want to.
22  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Problem of Centralized Develpoment ("core devs") in Bitcoin. on: October 22, 2014, 07:49:59 PM
case in point:  Swiss banks prided themselves on secrecy, and did their own thing for decades.  World opinion thought otherwise of Swiss banking secrecy, and majority opinion (of the kind you seem to disparage) voted Swiss banking secrecy out of existence.  Even the Swiss parliament bowed to world opinion (chiefly the EU and USA).

Right; see what a mistake that was?
23  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Problem of Centralized Develpoment ("core devs") in Bitcoin. on: October 22, 2014, 07:46:18 PM
Thoughts?

This is not how open source development works.

If you don't like version N+1 of the software, just stick with version N.  You are welcome to pay someone to make an N+1' version that goes off in a different direction if you like.
24  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Are Bitcoiners Neoliberals? on: October 22, 2014, 07:26:18 PM

Wow - didn't realize you could get that book in PDF form.  I need to read that one!

(It's by a much smarter Walter than me.)
25  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 22, 2014, 06:29:40 PM
This is about payments not bitcoin but there is a synergy of efforts. Bitcoin may be an beneficiary but cryptocurrencies need to "grow up" and have standards. W3C Web Payments is committed to help provide the standards so potential future payment technologies can mature.

The beneficiaries we are the targeting are the unbanked, unbankable, and those not having access to financial infrastructure. We cant achieve this goal without integrating into the core of the browser technologies layered with security to create frictionless & borderless payments. We will help connect up another billion+ people to the global economy.
No offense, but I've been watching the W3C since the days of HTML 3 and your track record of creating successful web standards has been... mixed.

It's not obviously apparent that a W3C Web Payments standard would be useful or relevant.

Plus, I don't much like being told to "grow up."  It's possible to tell me respectfully what you think is in it for me without calling me names should I choose to not do things your way!
26  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [CLOSED] 24h auctions: Litecoin for Bytecoins on: October 22, 2014, 04:04:45 PM
I hate to bring up an old thread, but I just wanted to let anyone who participated or followed this thread know that I am doing this again over in the Altcoin Marketplace forum:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=823884.0;topicseen

Send me your Bytecoins! Cheesy
27  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [BTE] The Bytecoin Information Thread on: October 22, 2014, 04:02:47 PM
I found a Bytecoin block explorer I didn't know about, but at the moment it seems to be stuck:

https://coinplorer.com/BTE

The coinplorer guys got the explorer unstuck, and it seems to be working great again.  If you haven't checked out the explorer, give it a look - it's pretty slick.

And if you have some Bytecoin, I think it would be great if we all showed the coinplorer guys some love for providing this service, and if we let them know how great Bytecoin is, by sending them some donations.  Their Bytecoin donation address is 8FULQjz4x9PQTdGNo8ZoK1r17tuvXD5HCi
28  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Are Bitcoiners Neoliberals? on: October 22, 2014, 03:50:29 PM
"Neoliberal" is a phony made-up word by people who want to limit others' choices.
Nope, it's not. Read more books.



Are the people on that book cover neoliberals?  If so, I am definitely not a neoliberal.
29  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: [LTC] [BTE] Buy Litecoin with Bytecoin (24 hour auctions) on: October 22, 2014, 03:35:32 PM
Thanks, smoothaces and m0gliE.  That's 2.0 LTC auctioned off so far - who will win the next? Smiley
30  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Are Bitcoiners Neoliberals? on: October 22, 2014, 02:12:35 AM
mostly, it's a philosophy that lives entirely on the Internet.  You'll find it's greatest outspoken proponents are anons on twitter or random forums like this.  Few people would confess such beliefs to their mother, that's for sure.  It's a sort of attitude that builds up over time.   I think a lot of these people, especially on here dont really transition their psychological state from playing violent video games to interacting on these forums.  They say and do things they would never dream of in 'real life'.  Sometimes I even think Ulbricht lost touch with reality at some point.  People have said he spent all day on his laptop and never spoke with anyone.

If you get to know any of these cryptokids on here, it's a pretty typical profile.  Young, no social life, loves video games, marginally employed, etc.  They encounter another player-character in the forum video game that angers them, the solution is throw a grenade or fire rocket launchers.  They just don't understand that theyre in public and they're accountable for their actions.

You talk pretty authoritatively about people who are complete strangers on the internet, people you don't know.  I'm a libertarian anarchist, and you don't know anything about me.  I don't play violent video games, you don't know which of my parents I've discussed my political views with or if my parents are even alive, I suspect that I am older than you (you certainly trash talk people like a young disrespectful person), and you have no idea what I do for entertainment in my life.

And I'm just one of many.

Who are you to say that libertarians are internet dwellers who have no life?  How would you know?

You aren't claiming to have psychic powers, are you?
31  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Are Bitcoiners Neoliberals? on: October 22, 2014, 01:58:06 AM
To me, when someone says "neocon/neoliberal", I imagine ruthless robber baron capitalist who truly believes that market is end-all solution to everything, ethics be damned. Surprisingly, significant amount of those "white straight male reddit fedora libertarians who love to shoot guns" appear to not discard basic human decency in their dogma.

Maybe real people aren't like caricatures.

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This cognitive dissonance is my main problem with the ideology,

I don't think I have any cognitive dissonance.  If I were to get what I want and what I think should be in the world by forcing other people to cooperate with my plans, that would cause cognitive dissonance for me.

So, I believe in helping the poor, so I do it.  I don't employ schemes to make other people do it.  I don't believe in any current wars, so I expect people who do believe in them to pay for them themselves.
32  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: [LTC] [BTE] Buy Litecoin with Bytecoin (24 hour auctions) on: October 22, 2014, 12:35:29 AM
1 BTE

Awesome snipe. Smiley  I'm sending you a PM.
33  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: CKPOOL - Open source pool/database/proxy/passthrough/library in c for Linux on: October 22, 2014, 12:33:35 AM
Thanks, Con!
34  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: CKPOOL - Open source pool/database/proxy/passthrough/library in c for Linux on: October 22, 2014, 12:16:23 AM
I keep getting shut down with this message:

[2014-10-22 00:02:03] Failure in send_proc from stratifier.c ssend_process:2661 with errno 3: No such process
[2014-10-22 00:02:03] Child process received signal 15, forwarding signal to ckpool main process
[2014-10-22 00:02:03] Parent process ckpool received signal 15, shutting down

I've run without a hitch 24/7 until now.  What did I do?
35  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [BTE] The Bytecoin Information Thread on: October 21, 2014, 03:49:06 PM
hi everyone,

I would like to mine this coin. Can someone help me join a pool and configure my Cointerra 1.6TH miner?

sincerely,

noobminer2.0

The pools usually have a webpage with most or all of the information you need.  Have you mined regular Bitcoin with your Cointerra yet?  If not I'd suggest getting that running first, then switch over.  The easiest pool to get up and running on, in my opinion, is Bitminter.  Once you've figured out how that works, try out the Bytecoin pools.

I have never run a Cointerra or I might be able to offer more assistance.
36  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Are Bitcoiners Neoliberals? on: October 21, 2014, 02:43:07 PM
The simple fact is that this group(perhaps several groups) operate under some vague ethos referred to by different names(libertarianism, cryptoanarchy).  It quickly devolves into extortion, harassment, death threats, etc.  You can't do business without a justice system.

I don't think anyone's proposing that, but I do think they are proposing that a justice system established only based on force from the majority will not be moral.

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They will quickly find themselves surrounded by hardened criminals and doing things that are strictly immoral, where they may have started far more innocently.

How many years do I have to go before I start seeing that?  I don't think I know any hardened criminals, and I don't think I'm doing anything immoral.  I don't even use the drugs I advocate legalizing, unless you count sudafed.
37  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Are Bitcoiners Neoliberals? on: October 21, 2014, 02:25:47 PM
They only interact with other people like themselves

Boy, if only that were true.  Unfortunately we are forced to live like everybody else, subject to the winner take all system that you prop up.
38  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: CKPOOL - Open source pool/database/proxy/passthrough/library in c for Linux on: October 21, 2014, 06:43:35 AM
Is there a way to tell ckpool to re-read its configuration file without a restart?

Apologies if this is answered somewhere; I looked through the FAQ and tried to search the whole thread.
39  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Are Bitcoiners Neoliberals? on: October 21, 2014, 06:09:18 AM
All the regulations have to do with interfacing Bitcoin with the legacy system that these people say they want eliminated so why should they care?

Because people should have the freedom to make whatever private arrangements they want.
40  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Are Bitcoiners Neoliberals? on: October 21, 2014, 06:08:02 AM
The real wacky stuff comes from the people who say it will end wars.  The theory being the whole world will switch to Bitcoin and it will somehow prevent governments from spending money on war (I guess they can't use the Dark Wallet?).

The theory is that ending the power to tax and the power to inflate the money supply will greatly curtail the government's ability to wage war.

I'd like to end the power to tax - people who believe in a particular battle should fund it with their own resources, rather than picking their neighbor's pockets.  It would have been great if, in 2002, an invasion of Iraq had to be paid for by the people who were convinced of the need, rather than by them plus everybody who disagreed.
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