Well, to answer one part of your question, my approach is critical and scientific.  What that means is that if someone claims 9/11 had to have been explosives because a four ton chunk of steel was tossed 500 feet, then I simply compute that matter.

It has nothing to do with who tells who what to think.   It is a simple examination of a claim using math and physics.

That's one form of "seeking answers."  It's also a way of examining the greatest fucking mysteries that could be, quite opposite to listening to babble from bobble-heads.

How about Pakistan, created in 1948 and many, many people displaced?

How come we are not hearing about that?

Only this ridiculous Jew hate stuff.

There is zero "evidence" of 9/11 being an Israeli operation.

There is zero "evidence" of 9/11 being anything but an operation by fanatical Muslim terrorists.


The group of Muslims who trained to fly airliners straight and level at US pilot schools, but who didn't bother to learn to take them off or land, is of course the group of Muslims that had the capability to do exactly that - fly airliners straight and level into buildings.  Duhh....

What? Now we should meditate ourselves into figuring out who did 9/11?

I didn't see any 9/11 videos of McKenna listed.

Of course you are right. The evidence is reverse-evidence: the military not taking care of the air space by accident; the Twin Towers not withstanding the forces they were made to withstand by accident; the government not responding to all the reports by all the building engineers who say that the Towers' collapse could not have happened the way the formal report says, all by accident.

This is the best way to make your report strong. Suggest it was all an accident.

I wondered that too, in my vain effort to understand conspiracy theories on 911.  How does always wind up being the US government?  

But I'll stick to the physics and chemistry, since I'm not seeing much but junk science there.

That's one of my problems as well, it's similar to convicting a person for murder with no evidence whatsoever, but with a strong motive and lack of alibi.

Rather than concentrating on loads of tiny, supposed anomalies, and trying to compound them together to prove some fantastical plot, I wish these truthers would find some evidence of the ACTUAL PLOT.

I mean, just look above. Someone is saying that a steel beam travelled "too far away", so explosives 100% must have been used. They were probably told this by an "internet expert", so now they refuse to believe there is even a small chance that this could have happened with no explosives.

Now I'm not an architect, but it's pretty obvious to me that there are ways that this could have happened with a normal collapse. They may be unlikely, but certainly not impossible. I mean you have thousands of tons of beams and concrete under all sorts of pressures, there may have been deflections as someone said above, there may have been torsional, catapulting type impacts. Anyway, even if it's a 0.1% chance, it still could have happened.

So we end up getting stuck on a fallacious "appeal to authority", where a supposed expert says an obviously false thing (that something is 100% impossible when it clearly isn't), and this anomaly somehow matches with the initial US Gov false flag theory.

These truthers would make terrible detectives.

Find me some ACTUAL evidence of a plan and we'll talk, in the meantime stop linking totally unrelated little things and fitting them to your own story of what happened.

Pro tip - multiple unlikely things occuring do not make the final evidence any stronger, unless the things are directly linked.

So, let's say the chance of the beams going too far without bombs is 10%, the probability of the Pentagon incident being a missile is 50%, and prob of Building 7 collapsing without bombs is, say 1%. Now, these three events being unlikely, but still all happening, does not make the probability of the attack being a US Gov false flag any higher, because the events are not linked. (even though it seems like it would, it's your mind playing tricks.) It's counterintuitive, humans are shit at this sort of thing.

I'm not jewish, but Israel is surrounded on 1 side by water, and the other 3 sides by countries that want to push them into it.    I would probably feel the same way if I couldn't go out on any given day and worry about suicide bombers and such.

I'll update what I last talked about with Joakim Stignert. He is one of the lawyer in the group action.

You more people that will join the group action, the better it is for each of us. The interest are really high, especially by the amount from USA and Charlotte Lin.
Consider that, the risk are really low. They will tell the amount of participators so that each of us can make our own estimates of the risks. BUT the cost of the trial(s) should be "normal", so KnC can't get 10 lawyers and think that we will pay that if they win.
They make an estimate that at least 50 people will join the group action. If KnC loose and appeal and wins in the supreme court (first district court and if they loose and appeal they will go to supreme court). And if we count really high, let say KnC sends an invoice of 400 000 sek our cost per person will be 8000 SEK (400 000/50 = 8000 SEK or in USD $50 000/50 = $1000). And that is worst case.

They can't sue any of us because their name or their brand or any thing like that got poorly treated.

What's truly unforgivable is that the rest of you are unwilling to even open your mouth and acknowledge what monsters Jihadis are, and that these monsters exist, and that they do in fact find their justifications in Islamic texts and beliefs. Worse than your silence is that you attempt to silence the people who point it out. You're making Western society dangerous for everyone except Jihadis, including being dangerous for moderate Muslims and ex-Muslims.

The fact that you're attacking her instead of the Jihadi fascists and murderers she opposes makes me hope the following: I hope you and everyone you ever care about has to live in the world you're helping to create. What world is that? Look at Pakistan. Look at Saudi Arabia. Look at certain neighborhoods in Malmo, in Amsterdam, in Paris, in London. You are the cause of what's happening, because you and your kind are openly protecting the new Nazis, the Jew haters, the Jihadis. I hope your daughters are raped and made sex slaves. I hope after you find out she is a sex slave you go to the police and they arrest you for the hate crime of reporting it. I hope your hands are cut off. I hope you are stoned. I hope you are thrown off a building. I hope you are burned alive. There is no fate just enough for those who can so clearly see who they are standing with, and continue to stand with them.

Well, congratulations, Nazis. You win another round. Hamas and their surrogate Jihadis in CAIR get to spend years advertising lies about what "Jihad" means. Then as soon as someone tries to advertise about what "Jihad" really means they get silenced. You didn't even have to organize a Kristallnacht to silence her after all. The Nazi NYC government took care of it for you.

It was the fucking Muslim terrorists who did 9-11. I don't think there is much argument there. No one else. Just the Muslim terrorists.

Is there another group of people who are being demonized and lied about to a similar degree?

I literally believe people like most of the people on this thread who spread lies and propaganda about Jews are -- on purpose -- working towards a second Holocaust. I accept that I can't stop them, but I'm not going to watch it happen silently.

Try to imagine if you didn't hate Jews. Try to imagine you were against the systematic extermination of the Jews. And try to imagine you were watching people openly marching the world towards a second Holocaust. What would you do?

You guys may have a day of celebration the day six million Jews are killed -- again. But after the celebrations calm down, I want you to remember me. If you have young kids, you will look at them and know that because of me you will never have grandkids. If you have young grandkids, know that because of me they will never have kids. Your family will die out, the same way you killed the Jews. And it is all because you couldn't take an objective look at the clear evidence in the world today. All because you had to focus on one small group of people while overlooking the much worse actions of much larger groups of people.

You have signed the death warrant of the Jews. And you have signed your own as well.

Pamela Geller doesn't want Jews killed. That's why she's point out Jew-killers and the people who excuse them. What do the people who want to silence her want? Dead Jews.

Don't worry. Jews will continue to be killed whether this ad runs or not. And people will blame the Jews for being killed.

Thanks for answering. People have made this assumption a lot since I started defending Israel/Jews in the many, many threads popping up to hate on Israel/Jews. For months I just ignored it because I don't have a problem if people think I'm a Jew. (For the record: I'm not. I'm a Canadian Atheist. My ancestral ethnic background, like many "New Worlders" is who-the-fuck-knows and it's-not-important-to-me.)

Isn't it disturbing though that someone can be automatically assumed to be a Jew simply because they're against Jews being demonized, Jews being hated, Jews being killed? Or against Israel being attacked or destroyed?

If Israel is destroyed, I will devote the rest of my life to the extermination of the human species. Any species that goes down this road again less than 100 years after the holocaust needs to be fucking wiped out.
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Why would I even have such a statement in my signature? I want the Jew-haters to know they do, in fact, have skin-in-the-game when it comes to Israel. I will do my best to make sure of that. The survival of your species depends on the survival of Israel. Jew-haters should remember that when they post.

Al-Qaeda.

Most people who claim it was someone else are idiots - it's kinda like Holocaust denial 2.0 and should be outlawed.

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heh managed to sign up for the site in the above FAQ link..it states submit an online form to be considered....seems the link for the online form is not coming
up in IE or Firefox....this is hardly encouraging....name and password work...go to this page and fill out form and nada

Yes, that's the way it works.