Pour continuer dans le KYC 'ultra intrusif' de la part de Bitstamp

Tu ne peut même plus transférer des coins sur un wallet d'une partie tierce, un wallet dont tu n'as pas réellement de contrôle, par exemple une adresse d'un wallet sur Coinbase

Cela concerne les citoyens des Pays Bas, pour l'instant, en vérité ca sera surement élargit dans un futur proche, en tout cas ca ne m'étonnerai même plus, il y a un échange en Suisse qui fait pareil, peut importe le pays de résidence.

Si ils veulent faire un transfert vers une de leur adresse, en dehors de Bitstamp, ils doivent faire un KYC de ladite adresse. Autrement dit, prouver que l'adresse en question est bien la leur. (en envoyant une photo comme preuve


https://twitter.com/plan_marcus/status/1350951664258322439/photo/1

Puisque tu prends Electrum pour exemple.
Lorsque tu l'utilises, tu te connectes à un des serveurs Electrum et ton wallet contrôle les données communiquées par ces serveurs, en utilisant la méthode appelée Simple Payment Verification
Lorsque tu crées une transaction, celle ci est ensuite validée, diffusée et propagée sur le réseau Bitcoin.

Tu n'es pas obligé d'utiliser le serveur d'Electrum, on peut très bien utiliser notre propre serveur Electrum avec notre propre nœud Bitcoin Core, ce qui donne plus d'indépendance
https://github.com/chris-belcher/electrum-personal-server

Pretty smart

I see you used the API from developer.twitter.com that's why you found it very limited. If you go through a third-party application it becomes much less restrictive.

For example, you could write 100 tweets, spin the text 10 times to have 1000 tweets, upload all of them in a WordPress database that will auto-post on a regular basis, you will see much less restrictions.

And yeah, Twitter improved a lot to detect the spams over the years. About the rate-limit...



But as you surely know, it's a case by case depending on the account used

Le membre ne s'est pas connecté depuis 2019, tu as peu de chances d'avoir une réponse à ta question

Tu avais essayé les suggestions données? Qonto, ManagerOne? Tu peux aussi regarder du coté de Shine, les transactions en relation avec la crypto n'ont jamais posées de problème

@ChrisPop

Maybe you're right because not a lot of people have access to Bitcoin in their PayPal account, only US citizens if I understood correctly.
But at the same time, PayPal itself announced on CNBC that the company is currently buying 100% of the newly available Bitcoin supply.
(that was 2 or 3 weeks ago)
I too think Mindgeek isn't playing a major role in

If you add the companies investing in bitcoin as an alternative reserve asset, the institutional investors injecting more funds into the market. All this creates a favorable context we're seeing.

@Renampun

It doesn't mean they all are buying a subscription for a premium account there

Manque de chance pour vous deux, je suis contre l'avortement et contre l'immigration.

Vous avez pas autre chose?


Ripple, c'est un immigré, alors oui 

I don't know about others but even if Bisq exchange is decentralized I treat it like any centralized exchange.

I don't keep coins on it for the long or even medium term.
I send coins to my wallet only when I need to use them and remove them as soon as I'm done. As it is said above better safe than sorry but since it is open-source if a bad code is injected it would be immediately noticed. Even if you have the private key, if your wallet is compromised you will have no use of the key since the bitcoins will be gone already

I had a similar experience to those posted in the article.

And it's true that their customer service is horrible (they can compete with Coinbase regarding this), with answers out of topic, as if they don't even read what you ask them. You need to send several messages to get someone to take the problem more seriously, and not answer you with canned replies.

Their system is so bad that you can get stuck for no reason. I don't know what was the reason to block me, maybe because I accessed my account using another IP address. That's not a reason for me, you may have a dynamic IP, you may have moved or you may have just changed your internet provider.
The only solution they offered me when I finally managed to get someone was to give them my identity papers. No way for me, glad I didn't have any coin there.

So I asked them to close my account and erase all my data, it became another trouble until I take the next step.
Everything is fine when you don't have a problem, but when you need help it's a different story.

Ben oui c'est vrai ca.

Alors, je suis ton exemple, pourquoi dépenser de l'argent pour la sécurité routière.
On a construit des dos d'anes devant l'ecole de tes enfants, en prévention, parce que "ca sauve des vies". Qui paie? Les autres, pourtant c'est pas leurs gosses

A vous ecouter dire qu'il y a une différence de prix entre un blanc et un africain on pourrait aussi dire que la vie d'un non-croyant n'as pas la même valeur qu'un croyant.

Bitcoin core ne s'appelait pas comme ca à l'époque. C'était "Bitcoin", ensuite pour faire la différence entre Bitcoin la monnaie et Bitcoin le logiciel client le nom a changé pour Bitcoin-QT (puis ensuite bitcoin core)

Par logique la version devrait être 0.1.0 ou 0.1.un nombre

Once you create your account, receive the card and activate it, it works very similarly to a bank account. Some of the services provide you an IBAN. It's like the account numbers that you share with others to receive SEPA payments in the EU

To use the card you have to send your bitcoins to your wallet included with your account, or to a dedicated BTC address that will be generated within your account dashboard. Then you just need to convert BTC to EUR  like with an exchange platform and use the card as you usually do

You mention there is no KYC but you should check twice because it's a bit surprising knowing that
1) it's a VISA product  (the time when VISA allowed cards without verifying people ID is gone since maybe 2017)
2) the company crypterium is in the EU

I haven't checked carefully all their terms but for example:

"with minimal fees..."

Are you joking? The original poster mentioned $50, how is that minimal, when we usually can but BTC in an exchange platform with a 0% deposit and 0.15% to trade. Have you ever buy bitcoins just once to realize what you're saying
$50 is minimal? 1.7% for bank transfers mentioned after isn't 'cheap", it's x10 compared to the standart

"complete safety and confidentiality of data"

What are you talking about? There is nothing confidential buying coins via Ledger Live since it uses Changely. I advise going to read changely's privacy policies
And doing a bank transfer with Coinify is less confidential since you need to verify your identity and provide personal data to foreign persons

@figmentofmyass

There is also Bitgild, located in the Netherlands. https://www.bitgild.com/
They sell gold and silver and are 'well know' by people in the EU who like to buy gold/silver with cryptos. You will find their ANN thread somewhere in the 'service announcement' section by the way.

Talking about the KYC:

If you're a European citizen there is no identity verification for transactions under 10 000€ and cumulative transactions under 10 000€. So if you're a regular client, once the total of your purchases hits 10 000€, you will have no choice to get the KYC, but no need if you stay under the 10k line.
If you're not from the EU, the limit is higher but I don't remember the amount exactly

They use BTCPay to accept Bitcoin payments but you can also pay with Altcoins (via Coinpayment) and stablecoins (via Coinbase)

Bitgild, Apmex, and Jmbullion are the only 3 websites worth using. I had been looking for what was available to buy gold with Bitcoin and these were the only sites that are worth it. The others seemed either abandoned or didn't look very clean to me.

Jmbullion doesn't ship outside the US, Apmex can ship outside the US but there is an extra cost (they don't offer free shipping). Additionally don't forget about the duties taxes if there is something about it in your country.
Bitgild offer free shipping for orders above 1000€ (and no duties taxes if you're from EU since they're from EU)

@cyriljundos

This is out of topic. What you describe is nothing more than trading to accumulate more coins. Here the topic is about the floating rate used by the 'accountless' exchange mentionned.


@ak_Merin94

20% seems too much, or rather too good to be true. Additionally, I checked the FAQ and the website says nothing about stopping exchanges when rates significantly differ (in a negative way)
In fact, it clearly says the opposite, during a swap you can receive more but you can also receive less

(and surely not a difference of 20%)

Finally, checking your post history, I don't buy your story but that's a nice attempt.

Pas tellement vrai, on ne leur demande pas de coder un nouveau shopify, drupal, ou WP

Si c'est pour une histoire de couts, ca leur reviendrait moins cher de se passer de shopify et de construire quelque chose basé sur Wordpress par exemple. Ce qui leur donnerai en plus de ca beaucoup plus de fonctionnalités et d'opportunités.
Il y a forcement un webadmin derrière le site donc il peut aussi être derrière un WordPress. Ils ont également certainement un community manager. Un CM est censé pouvoir gérer Wordpress, ca fait partie des bases.

Et puis si c'était pour la sécurité, ben la du coup c'est foutu vu ce qui leur arrive. Tu trust quelqu'un et cette personne est le point faible (les 2 employés). c'est ironique même.

C'est comme si le journal Le Monde passait sur blogspot parce que leur cœur de métier c'est le journalisme, fournir du contenu et non pas de créer et maintenir un site CMS

Je m'étais fais exactement la même reflexion Parce que j'ai toujours pensé à la base que Shopify visait les débutants, ce qui n'y connaissent rien. Bon après peut etre que c'est utile pour ne pas avoir a se soucier de la maintenance ou de la securité je sais pas, en tout cas c'est pas pour des fonctionnalités. Mais quand tu vois certains noms connus l'utiliser, la BBC par exemple..

https://www.shopify.com/

C'est une plateforme SaaS permettant à n'importe qui de créer une boutique en ligne. Un peu comme Wix permet de créer un mini site statique ou Wordpress pour créer un blog

Rien à voir avec la crypto donc, c'est juste que Ledger paie Shopify pour pouvoir vendre sur ledger.com

True

And to add, the fact that when you buy or sell in real estate you are no choice to use a middleman for the contract and to sign papers. A notary, a lawyer, or a real estate agency...

I can imagine their faces if both parties agree on a sale to be paid with 300 kilos of bananas. Then comes the time of the sale tax, how to tax when the amount is 300 kilos of bananas? Going to the taxes office to bring 3 kilos to pay

Since @OP is talking about stablecoins. They have no benefit to be used in such cases...because they're 'stable' and not interesting.
In reality, this is the open door to scam folks

@oscar2000

Pour toi, des chiffres sur le taux de mortalité.

La surmortalité a atteind 9% en 2020. Est ce que je dois retrouvé certains commentaires ou tu disais que ca ne changerai pas par rapport aux années passées? T'as plus de TA à nous balancer?
Tu disais pas que ca ferais moins de morts que la grippe? Bon on en est ou alors?

Je te vois venir! Tu vas me dire que 9% c'est pas beaucoup (ah ben 55000 morts quand même, mais si tu dis que c'est pas beaucoup...) et que ce ca ne justifie pas de fermer des restaurants et tout le bazzarre. Ca veut dire que pour toi la vie à un prix. A combien tu l'estimes?

What will be the concrete facts making this happen? Because having an expectation is something but you need arguments here.

Don't get me wrong, I can agree that the rise in the value we see is caused by demand.

It tends to be said that this has been due to the institutional investors, or even companies investing part of their cash flow or investment funds seeking to counter traditional currency devaluation.
I have no problem with that...

But there will be a time when it will fade. At the moment we can say that it is thanks to the COVID-19, but what will it be when everything will return to the way it was before (I speak for the world economy)?

Do you guys think the current situation will stay forever?