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2021  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: BFL Monarch - Delivery Dates on: May 19, 2014, 08:49:44 PM
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/4414-monarch-information-2.html#post77863
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03-04-2014, 11:46 PM
deployment of the Monarch will be delayed about 5 weeks from now.

Tomorrow makes 11 weeks, yet not a single working Monarch. A great example of Josh's totally bogus timeline estimates.


https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/4414-monarch-information-post79874.html#post79874
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04-19-2014, 04:39 PM
While it is possible we will begin shipping limited quantities by the end of the week of the 21st, it's more likely we will begin shipping the following week

So shipping the week of 4/28 - 5/2? Nope, no working devices yet.


https://forums.butterflylabs.com/blogs/bfl_josh/386-monarch-update-30-april-2014-a.html
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30 April 2014
We plan to begin shipping within the next 10 - 12 days

What's your guess. Did they ship when Josh predicted? Surprise! They didn't. 20 days later and nothing shipped.
2022  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 19, 2014, 08:29:29 PM
All my computing life I have been taught and taught students how to compute things in the most efficient way.

Then you must really love Bitcoin. CPUs in 2010 where .1 J/MH, and now just 4 years later we're running ASICS at 1 J/GH. That's an efficiency improvement of 1,000,000% in just 4 years. Where else do you see such massive improvements in efficiency?
2023  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: BFL Monarch - Delivery Dates on: May 19, 2014, 05:00:40 PM
Even today, let's say they had enough orders to increase the network by a mere 10%, that would be 8,000 Imperial Monarchs.  8,000 x ~550 = ~4.4 megawatts of power usage.  Ask one of the datacenter people what kind of space would be needed for this, what kind of power requirements, what kind of cooling would be needed, etc.

Nice strawman! No one ever claimed they built 8000 units and started mining with them all at once. The truth is, BFL takes pre-order funds, builds miners, then mines for profit with those customer machines. How many at a time? No one knows. But the fact that they do it is not under dispute. They stated such in court records.
2024  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: BFL Monarch - Delivery Dates on: May 19, 2014, 03:22:34 AM
So, yapyap, where were they doing all of this mining at? 

BFL mines with customer equipment, and they own EMC, so it's pretty safe to say they are mining at EMC.
2025  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Advertising on BFL website is very misleading to NEW CUSTOMERS on: May 18, 2014, 04:28:37 PM
Still misleading.

How do the keep forgetting to update the page? Is it me or are they doing it on purpose?

Oh, they're not forgetting. They are updating their pages, but they leave the lies up on purpose.
2026  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: BFL Monarch - Delivery Dates on: May 16, 2014, 02:22:32 AM
I know may I have been an idiot buying from them.

Now how do you feel?
2027  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: May 16, 2014, 02:00:31 AM
Saturday 17 May 2014, Amsterdam Bitcoin Conference:

Panel: " State of the Bitcoin Mining ‘Arms Race’ "

with: Josh (BFL), Sam(KnC), .....

http://bitcoin2014.com/

ScamBand is getting back together!

2028  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: PBmining - legit? on: May 15, 2014, 02:04:42 AM
+ it would easily be double that in cooling and a facility able to host 375TH/s for 5 years that's a pretty serious set up you'd need your own sub station running that much power. It's most likely just a case of how long it goes on for now. If you have broke even already it's lucky but it's horrible to think it's probably other peoples money

They setup their ponzi in Canada, so the cooling costs for the imaginary hardware are only during a short summer.
2029  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: May 14, 2014, 08:42:39 PM
If KNC delivers with this specs for on Neptune order:

2 x 3600 Gh/s
2 x 2100 Watt
01. June shipping date

There's no way they're delivering 2x3600 in June. None. Why bother estimating the impossible?
2030  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $1.99/GH/s, miners from $2.97/GH/s on: May 14, 2014, 08:39:13 PM
But all I'm saying is we are not getting ripped off here. BA is very close if not ahead of the competition in terms of cost/gh/efficiency.

The current compensation plan is about right if they ship everything next week. It's naive to think they actually will ship then. They should have demoed a full X-3 running by this point. It's safe to say a lot of people are rightly concerned about continued delays.
2031  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $1.99/GH/s, miners from $2.97/GH/s on: May 14, 2014, 08:08:34 PM
I'm talking about x3s($6000/3.6th). X1s will always be slightly more expensive per gh being a small device (requiring more parts per chip)

3.6 TH/s is a bit optimistic at this point. They don't have a single X-3 running at full speed yet.
2032  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Bitcoin integration in a hotel on: May 14, 2014, 02:50:27 AM
I don't want to lug around a second phone. But I would swap in a new sim card, so just have the hotel provide local sim cards for the stay. The rest of the phone-related add-ons can simply be an app that is easily installed when checking in.
2033  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: {BFL} WHAT THE:!( Butterfly Lads won't deliver the Monarch Till JUNE or JULY:( on: May 13, 2014, 07:01:05 PM
Quote from: BFL_Josh
Four months ago everyone was saying we would see 20 or 30% increases ad infinitum, which was ridiculous.

Another Josh lie. No one ever said the increases would go on forever.
2034  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: PBmining - legit? on: May 13, 2014, 05:42:48 AM
if you assume that anyone runs antiquated hardware...  which is insane

They already spent the income buying the hardware. How are they going to fund buying new hardware? New customers? Bingo! Ponzi.
2035  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: PBmining - legit? on: May 12, 2014, 11:43:52 PM
Over 5 years that's $0.1008*(12*5)=$6

You don't see a problem with that? The cost of electricity alone is 3x what they bring in from each customer.
2036  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $1.99/GH/s, miners from $2.97/GH/s on: May 12, 2014, 09:53:14 PM
In all honesty, that is pretty sweet.

3 TH/s for free($6000 value) for Neptune customers.

Not really. The extra 3 TH/s will be delivered months later.
2037  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: What are the limits of ASIC Mining? on: May 12, 2014, 02:37:17 PM
My assumption is that ASIC miners optimize for the "hashes per joule" metric, as did GPU miners over CPU miners.

Most ASIC designs at this point have been quick and dirty designs. Only two seem to have had "hashes per joule" as a primary goal, Bitfury and Bitmain. Both of those designs are at a huge 55nm, yet are nearly as efficient as all the other 28nm designs.
2038  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: AMT users thread. on: May 11, 2014, 04:47:09 AM
Besides,  why am I hearing the manufacturing problems from you and not from the source AMT?

Because AMT knows they can't directly blame IMET, as that would be libel, and they'd just get sued again.
2039  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Reward FOR answers] 50TH S1 Farm on: May 09, 2014, 06:08:55 PM
If you're going to do 50TH, forget the S1. Get 36 SP10s instead. Call up Spondoolies and I'm sure you get can a discount for a 36 unit order. Setting up 36 units would be a piece of cake.
2040  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: AMT fucks us over again on: May 09, 2014, 05:59:47 PM
Dude a simple tax investigation against AMT and their famous Genno's stakes will bring Zipkin ass to jail guaranteed  Wink
All Capone story when everything fails this works for sure Grin
But Zipkin is paying taxes and not hiding anything right poserko Grin

How would AMT pays state taxes when they're not registered with the state to do business in PA.
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