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2021  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: December 12, 2023, 04:37:37 PM
Madrid is the only way for Mbappe to continue to extend his brilliant career  but that doesn't mean Mbappe has an important role for Madrid.  Now the position has reversed because since Mbappe rejected Madrid first offer everything has changed completely. Madrid can still look for other player options that are cheap and even  more suitable. Rumors  are circulating  that players  from Brazil are being targeted in  the transfermarket next season and I hope that Madrid will continue to create stability  in every line. Vinicius and Rodrygo just need to continue to develop and  for strikers it's up to Florentino Perez  to decide.
I actually prefer to say that Real Madrid is one of the paths for his career, because in this case it is not only Real Madrid that can provide a future for Mbappe, but there are other good clubs as well. But maybe it can be said that Real Madrid is the best choice for his career.

I haven't heard any more news about Perez now, usually he appears with his statement, but if he has said he wants to buy a player, then he will try to buy it even he is willing to spend deeply to realize his wishes. The news about Mbappe is still a wild ball, there is no certainty where he will go and could even stay. Unclear rumors will definitely be a seasoning when the transfer market comes, and that will definitely happen to Mbappe.
2022  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: December 12, 2023, 04:22:51 PM
The league is almost halfway through the season and the race for the title is still very competitive. Juventus and Inter are really competing with a difference of only 2 points. I agree with you that Juventus is a team that is good at finding gaps in opponents' weaknesses. Even though Juventus' weakness here is in their strikers, this can be seen from the number of goals scored which is only 23 goals, but they can play very well with their defense so they often win with narrow scores.
The target of the Juventus team itself is to be able to win even if it is only by a narrow score, because only with that can Juventus continue to stick to the leader of the standings with a very close number of points even though there are shortcomings in terms of the number of goals. I'm still quite confident that Juventus will continue to be consistent until the end of the season because Juventus is only thinking about Serie A this season so Juventus doesn't need to put their minds on other competitions.
The main target of a club is definitely 3 points, no matter how little they score in a match the most important thing is that they can win and get 3 points. But to win, there must be goals that they can create and as much as possible they do not concede more than the number they can create against the opponent's goal.
I have a good example at the moment in Nice in LIgue 1, they have a very good defense, they just have the problem of not being able to create goals very well or in other words they are not productive. Even if they don't concede but at the same time they can't create goals, then it won't be a win for them.
Now Juventus have a number of goals that is not bad, but it cannot be said to be good either, they must be able to improve their ability to attack and create goals.
2023  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: December 12, 2023, 04:07:45 PM
I don't think Sevilla has a chance to continue in the champions league.I don't think they can win their clash with Lens.Lens is likely to get a draw here at worst.Arsenal-PSV will be played as a bit of a formality.I expect both teams to continue in the champions league.It could be a game with a lot of goals and a draw seems likely. As for the score, the match may end with a score like 2-2 or 3-3, of course this is my prediction.A match in which both teams can enter plenty of goal positions will be waiting for us.
Sevilla will certainly not be able to continue in the Champions League, their chances now can only be in the Europa League, even then they must ensure they can win this match with any score.
But the problem is that this will be a home match for Lens, of course as the host Lens will benefit more, because they will get full support from their supporters. In the first meeting that played at Sevilla's home at that time, the match ended with a draw and they could only share points and also overall their game was balanced.
With that, it is likely that the same result will happen again in this match and if that happens then Sevilla must be eliminated and cannot continue at least to go to the European League.
2024  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Referral bonuses are waste of time on: December 12, 2023, 12:09:16 PM

In the event that you're not a fan of this, you'll be able to't afford to spend a lot of money on it, but it's not a problem because it does help at least to increase the budget of your personal money in gambling. It makes sense that usually such referrals are more widely used or utilized by stremers or influencers who certainly have followers or a large number of followers on some of their social media, and with the power of human resources like that it will allow them to get a fairly decent or even large bonus amount if 80% of followers enter and engage in gambling through the referrals they share.

I think this is pretty much utilized by people who are quite famous, if you are one of them then there is nothing wrong with experimenting, because in this way the amount of money you will allocate to gambling each session may not be too large as before because obviously the bonuses you get are quite large if the scenario above really happens.
It true that the small amount of bonus you can get depends on how many followers you have, but having lots of followers doesn't guarantee it because the profit percentage is still calculated from how many people use the link shared to register and deposit money to bet.
The more people use the link and the more they deposit money to bet, the greater the bonus profits that streamer who is also an affiliate can get.
But it not easy and not everyone can do it because it requires the trust and liking of all followers towards them so that every time they share link, the link can be used more.
In reality, many fail, many cannot survive and they decide to stop being streamer or affiliate who shares referrals on various social media.

Well, that true because usually those who can use it more quickly to become or share referrals are famous people with social media accounts who already have lots of followers.
It can also be proven that nowadays many celebrities or artists are starting to do things like that to be able to have quite large additional income from referral bonuses.
Moreover, spending some money to make more profits is very pleasant thing and of course it is not loss because just by broadcasting you can get paid plus bonuses, this is clearly very profitable.

Yes, maybe what I have mentioned above is just an overall calculation if indeed most of their followers enter and engage in gambling through the referrals that you have shared, the fact is that it will not always be like that either, because out of 100 people for example it is unlikely that they are all interested in gambling, we just take a few possible people for example 40 who are interested enough to get involved and this is a fairly likely scenario because there are those who are interested and there are also those who basically always avoid the world of gambling among all of them. So for the issue of bonuses from referrals even if you have a lot of followers I don't think it can be concluded that you will be able to get a lot of bonuses because we don't know about how many people are interested and who are not. And the other reason might be like you said in terms of the trust and liking of the followers to the influencer or stremers itself is enough to be a determination.

Now is the digital era, the times are modern and that means we must be able to balance ourselves with the times to survive and one of them is not only hard work but also smart work. Refferal like this can really be utilized and it depends on whether or not you can take advantage of it, on the other hand it is quite lucky for those who are already quite famous because with their investors they can take advantage of opportunities such as those in refferal.
2025  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is gambling all about luck? on: December 12, 2023, 02:59:17 AM
In my opinion making cash from gambling is not a good option and the statistical probability that you will win every game at every casino is very low. I think winning or losing every game is completely in your head, so your individual tricks are not there. However, we all have some kind of luck so we should strive for what is possible for us.

Gambling can’t be considered as a stable source for making money. Gambling is often listed as game of luck and not game of skill. Here luck plays an important role for the outcomes and not the skills. Hence if your luck is not good then you can’t make the profits. Yes there is some skill required to make a sportsbet, but still luck also plays a vital role in order to make green bet. So yes if you are gambling, then always be prepared for losses also.

That's right, there is nothing stable, stagnant and consistent in terms of results that can make them smile at the end of the session, gambling is really nothing more than an activity for profit and if you try to come with the intention and purpose of earning then you will have the same fate as addicts who always suffer from the number of defeats. Basically, there are many types of gambling, some are purely luck-based such as slot machines and some require a little skill and knowledge such as sports, I admit that but on the other hand even if you have very good skills to engage in sports betting, the final result will still refer to how lucky you are at that time, because not infrequently we see that a strong team can be defeated by a very weak team, it is a fact that is not uncommon.

That is why you may often hear some good advice regarding limits and control, none other than because it is the only thing to do and also very important for your safety in gambling involvement, but on the other hand unfortunately not many gamblers are aware of this fact, they always come with the wrong mindset and goals that even act out of control and excessive. This is gambling which means there is a chance of winning as a reward and there is also the possibility of losing due to risk, this must be understood.
2026  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Referral bonuses are waste of time on: December 12, 2023, 02:37:17 AM
Most consider referral programs to be very unprofitable and a waste of time because it will be very difficult for them to get referrals from the links they share.
While referrals themselves can earn a lot if there are also many followers. therefore many are bored with only expecting rewards from this program.

except for those who already have many channels such as social media, websites and so on to accommodate people who are interested in what we do. if they are interested, of course, they will follow us as referrals. but if there are also many referrals and bonuses, of course, don't forget about them, at least say hello or something. not just chasing them to follow and after that they are abandoned. good communication can make you find more referrals.
Very few referral bonuses are obtained so that someone does not share with others unless they have a lot of followers so that they will be able to get bonuses from the referrals they share.
If we only have a few followers, I'm sure we won't be able to get bonuses from the referrals we share. In fact, I've found that the referrals we get depend on the referrals who play and if they don't play, just taking referrals, we won't get any bonuses.

In the event that you're not a fan of this, you'll be able to't afford to spend a lot of money on it, but it's not a problem because it does help at least to increase the budget of your personal money in gambling. It makes sense that usually such referrals are more widely used or utilized by stremers or influencers who certainly have followers or a large number of followers on some of their social media, and with the power of human resources like that it will allow them to get a fairly decent or even large bonus amount if 80% of followers enter and engage in gambling through the referrals they share.

I think this is pretty much utilized by people who are quite famous, if you are one of them then there is nothing wrong with experimenting, because in this way the amount of money you will allocate to gambling each session may not be too large as before because obviously the bonuses you get are quite large if the scenario above really happens.
2027  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you wrap up your gambling session? on: December 12, 2023, 02:17:07 AM
It will not be bad if gamblers can actually wrap up their gambling for the year just as they do with business and some other things, so that they can have more money to spend on family for the holidays where they are a lot of expenses. The holiday season is regularly fun, so gambling for fun should not be an excuse to gamble unless you are already an addict to gambling. Addicted gamblers cannot stay off gambling, and this holiday season is a time where we will see many of them. Worst situation for some families, they will not be able to have a pleasant festive season because the money that should have been meant for it has been gambled away.
If they can complete their gambling well, I think they are very good at managing themselves when betting on the gambling they play and they can also enjoy the winnings they have obtained.
Yes, those who have experienced an addiction to gambling will of course not be able to stop betting and winning because they will always lose because they are always greedy in gambling. Only luck is what they can get in winning their gambling.

People who are able to finish their gambling sessions and go home not in tears I think it only happens and can be done by people who still have awareness in every gambling session they do, emotions and greed are not too significant so they are still able to apply awareness in order to keep making better judgments in all situations and conditions, It is indeed better especially if in some sessions they manage to get lucky by going home with a certain amount of winnings to enjoy, but unfortunately not many gamblers can take such an approach, on average they always act out of control because their hopes and beliefs exceed common sense and logic.

Basically, it is quite difficult if someone has entered and is trapped in the addiction zone, they will not be able to accept some good advice based on facts because they already have different beliefs from normal people in terms of gambling, even though it is wrong but they think it is right, not realizing that gambling is really a for-profit activity and none other than that because it is difficult to achieve awareness in addiction situations.
2028  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you regret also for ever knowing about gambling? on: December 12, 2023, 01:57:17 AM
Majority of the gamblers would say yes, because they could've lost big. What they lost could've caused them big problems or it could've made them suffer financially. Some could've entered gambling just because the person next to him could've got lucky to win big. This is completely wrong and later only understands the reality. Most could've managed to invest it somewhere else or on kept safe for the future. Now they keep on trying to recover the loss. I personally regret, because I lost valuable tokens gambling. If I had kept hold I could've got good money with me.

Quite agree with your assumption about the majority of gamblers will say yes that they regret, and one of the more likely reasons is because gambling is usually according to the fact that losses are more frequent than wins that only come occasionally, especially if they come with the aim of earning then obviously they will try more often and while on the other hand gambling is not a place to earn but no more than a place of entertainment, that is why the more often you try the more often defeat will accompany you.

Of course there are many factors that make someone get involved and get into gambling, like you said if one of their friends wins then obviously indirectly it motivates them, the question is who doesn't want money? and scenarios like that are more likely for someone to end up getting involved with the aim of getting the same win. Choosing to invest and save it for the future is great but that's only for those who have never touched gambling at all, because obviously if you have the power in terms of money and on the other hand you know about gambling or have even been involved then I'm sure the first thing on your mind is to put the money on the line. Basically, regret will always come at the end, I hope you take this bitter experience as a valuable lesson.
2029  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What according to you should be the age to retire from gambling ? on: December 11, 2023, 04:16:54 PM
Gambling knows no age, both young and old, if they still have healthy health and stable finances then everyone can gamble at any time. So there is no ideal number for retiring from gambling, especially if they still have a healthy memory and gambling is still entertainment for them, of course retirement is not an option.
And most of the people when they get older, they've got more freedom and more money and that's true which gives no boundary that anyone can still gamble at an old age.

"More money", I don't think it will always be like that, everyone especially the elderly will not always be able to have a situation with the financial level of the upper hand, maybe your idea is more referring to those who have a financially free situation for the contributions and hard work they have done in their youth so that it can make them reach the point of financial success and become rich people in old age by just enjoying the results of their struggles, not most but maybe only a few who have pretty good finances in old age. For the time issue yes I agree with you that old age is the age of freedom, just a little busy from work due to lack of strength due to age. Basically, involvement in gambling is a choice, it is true that there are no rules about when they should stop whether young or old, what is certain is that if they have money then they can gamble and if gambling does not have a bad impact on their life then please do it, there are no restrictions because this is a choice for each individual.

But this depends on the person too. There are also some of those who are old and have grandchildren, sometimes they want to spend their old age with their family, so retiring from gambling is the wisest choice. To be honest, in my area, parents very rarely gamble openly, this is because they feel ashamed that they are still gambling at their old age. This is also influenced by the culture where parents gambling is a disgrace to the family.
If the person have experienced much with gambling and he'd always ending up with losses, he had enough already and much better to have a wiser choice to retire.

But again, we go back to what you've said and combined the two of it. Anyone is free to retire whenever they think there's a valid reason and the same goes for continuing and there's no retirement age on it as long he can avail to take losses.

Actually there are still quite a lot of other alternatives that they can choose to enjoy their old age, especially if gambling activities only interfere with their lives in the sense of experiencing financial problems due to defeats that always dominate, if you are in such conditions then obviously there is no other choice but to retire and look for other activities that are also fun but not risky. Yes, that's right, it's really just a matter of choice, basically it's about whether they can bear the risk or not, if they can then please continue anyway you also feel all the good and bad effects.
2030  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Spending more or less money on Casino this Holiday season on: December 11, 2023, 03:45:15 PM
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Are you Spending more or less on casino this Holiday season
• Yes Spending more
 • No Spending less
Holiday season or Christmas, we all know that this day is a happy day for some people who celebrate it and take long holidays, for this reason, from year to year when the holiday season arrives, I have never gambled in online casinos, but I tend to prefer gambling face to face/in offline casinos, where I can spend my holidays with friends who are on holiday in one of the places.

From my summary above, so in conclusion point number one, maybe I spend a few dollars in gambling with my friends, whether it's betting on the table or other fun things.

The holiday season is synonymous with a lot of fun things that will be done by some people who celebrate it, that's right guys. There will be a lot of choices that can be taken by everyone as a whole for those who like gambling or who have never touched gambling at all. It's all about choice and everyone has the right to choose a place that can provide them with entertainment, and maybe you are one of those people who want to allocate your pleasure intentions to gambling. In terms of choosing a casino, it is true as you said that it will be more fun if we choose to engage in a physical casino, because of course there will be a lot of fun there which is certainly not only related to gambling but we can also find other fun such as socializing with them because this holiday season I think surely physical casinos will be more crowded.

Maybe you tend to prefer to dedicate yourself to gambling which is basically a risk, but it doesn't matter because everyone has a choice and certainly hopefully you stay safe and comfortable with all that. For myself honestly I have planned since myself that I will prefer to enjoy a vacation period with my family members to one of the places that are fun and outside of gambling, I will take advantage of this opportunity for family togetherness.
2031  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Risking 1% in Gambling on: December 11, 2023, 03:26:12 PM
yeah that's great and the concept are same as the budget for gambling but on the gambling site, I don't have rules like how much percentage I want to bet in each game.  Grin I just let it flow especially when i do gamble on Plinko the money and the times go fast + if you skip the animation and keep it auto on all colours. bet 100$ is just took a second to finish.
With 1% of your income, you can go careless with your bet and just enjoy whatever the outcome. If you win, you'll have an extra money to spend, maybe buy some beers and invite some friends to come over for a drink. It's not really a significant amount, but not everyone would be satisfied with that 1%, at least those who are will be safer.

But on the other hand although it is possible for them to be careless I don't think they will increase their budget too much from 1%, because obviously they are used to 1% and if they are not satisfied with their winnings then maybe they will only double the amount to 2% or a little more, which means it is still not more than 10% and I would say it is still quite safe.

On the other hand, in my opinion, it is not right if you put satisfaction in gambling results because the name of satisfaction will always be graded or means leveling up to be higher and it is dangerous for the gambler's financial condition. But yes, it cannot be denied that there will definitely be or even many gamblers who apply a sense of satisfaction to gambling results driven by greed, the fact is that all of this is beyond our control and it is their choice and only they will feel the bad impact. For those gamblers who are still doing well with their 1% budget allocation, I hope you will keep that approach consistent, and don't act recklessly just because you see someone else's fantastic winnings, it's just a temptation and a trap.
2032  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling and Behavioral Change!!! on: December 11, 2023, 03:03:15 PM
Gambling really changes a person's behaviour from the moment he gets to know how to gamble until he actually changes. If he initially had self-control, after becoming acquainted with gambling, his self-control would slowly disappear until, eventually, he would have no self-control. A person who decides to gamble must emphasize self-control and self-discipline so as not to experience the problems that gambling can cause. And this will clearly affect his psychology and mentality, especially if he gambles more often because he wants to win. But if gamblers can continue to practice controlling themselves and not be tempted by anything in gambling, they will really use gambling as they should and will not experience gambling addiction.
Most often the problem isn't with gambling itself, it's mostly with the attitude of the gamblers towards gambling, their attitude most times results in the behavioral changes which later leads to the negative effect which arise from the continuous engagement in gambling activities too often, and that is when discipline like you rightly mentioned becomes very important and needed.

If these gamblers can be disciplined enough they will definitely have self control, every disciplined person doesn't struggle with controlling their selves because self control is embedded in discipline. This is what gives the restrain and help their mind to continually keep them in check, when they are discipline, they basically control how much they participate in gambling without supervision because they have discipline, this way they will be able to see gambling strictly for entertainment and leisure and as such they almost don't get addicted because they are able to control their selves well enough not to get to the point of addiction.

Agree to that statement, if you have that discipline inside you, sometimes, you may exceed  but at the end of the day you'll just go back and reset yourself with your gambling participation, same with how you see it. Discipline provides that self-control which is very important. Most of the time, gambling has been influenced by emotions, things that are really tough to compete inside your own mindset when dealing with every game you play.

But, if you have that good set limitation, and you practice that kind of discipline, your chance of getting addicted is slim, not to generalize, as addiction is always possible if the dominance of gambling has already beaten your control.

True, I think just implementing discipline is good and it means that gamblers already understand about all the possibilities that they don't want to happen in their gambling involvement, but even though you have implemented it doesn't mean you are safe, because like you said sometimes we are very likely to break some of the discipline that we have implemented there, it doesn't matter and it's normal because it's very difficult to be able to negotiate with the situation when you are quasi by emotions, because gambling is very much involved in emotions and greed.

But on the other hand I think it's fine and quite normal because everyone must experience something like that and not just in the gambling world, one thing that I think should be made the main concern is to try to keep you at a good level of consciousness when your gambling session takes place. Only that can remind you of some of the boundaries you've set, and with that I think you'll still be able to make some pretty good judgments because it's based on the common sense of awareness, and also obviously to minimize the chances of addiction.
2033  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you regret also for ever knowing about gambling? on: December 11, 2023, 02:39:26 PM
There was a regret on me before when I was still actively doing gambling everyday to the point that most of my income where being used as my gambling funds, in short, I was an addict. Today, I can control myself and has a complete perspective on gambling. To be honest, I'm quite grateful that I learne gambling because I gained many experiences, friends, life lesson and the achievement I have in my gambling journey. Let's say that I'm a satisfied gambler that just gamble for fun today, my gambling experience I have for years of doing gambling is now a funny story that I can share with my gambling friends.

Basically, reality will always come at the end, and all gamblers can feel that way for the inadvisable actions they have already done at the beginning, but it doesn't matter my friend if you are now able to fix everything and make the experience a very valuable lesson that you experienced, don't be too protracted because however there will always be wisdom for the events of the bitter experiences that have passed.

It is true and I believe that the real change will really happen if an addict has reached the level of consciousness by experiencing a very bitter event in their gambling involvement such as maybe running out of all the assets they have or maybe the destruction of family relationships. That is why it is always difficult to give advice to addicted gamblers with the aim of helping them get out of the addiction zone, although it is good but it cannot fully work well, because addicted gamblers are already very difficult to accept advice from others, they have their own beliefs that cannot be contested, and in my opinion only a bitter event that can make them feel traumatized can make them reach the point of awareness for change. I'm glad you've managed to reach that realization and I hope you can continue to be consistent with applying that perspective.
2034  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: December 11, 2023, 12:57:06 PM
For the age of goalkeepers, David de Gea's current age can still be used for a few more years, but with a note that he will be able to give his best in his game. Indeed, young players will give a very long time, especially in the position of goalkeeper will usually be difficult to replace.
Seeing from the last performance when he was still in the Manachester United uniform, actually his game was not disappointing, it's just that he didn't get the trust of the coach which eventually made him have to leave. In fact, his replacement players who have 6 years of age below him are also unreliable now.
Any club that is set to sign Da Gea should have him as a short term project. I am not a fan of signing old players for a long term purposes. I have heard some news about David having some eyes problems requiring surgery but at a time I couldn't read the story anywhere again. Was it a fallacy or an intentional propaganda?

Yes, I also agree on that, that when a plyer is over 30 years old then that player cannot be categorized for a very long time, maybe there are players who can last until they reach 40 years old for example, but not many players can do that.
This can be an option when they find it difficult to recruit younger players. Within a season or two, they can use that to target which young players they will bring in to become long-term projects that the club can use.
I just heard about De Gea's eye, and if that happens it will be a bad signal for his career if he still wants to play.
2035  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 11, 2023, 12:36:34 PM
on the other hand this is bad news for Newcastle because they suffered another painful defeat in this match. Yes this is their 6th defeat in the Premier League and is their second consecutive defeat, and is their 3rd defeat in the last 5 matches.
Newcastle experienced bad results in their 2 away matches. and that's not a small number of goals. Conceding 7 times in 2 matches, that's not a good result for a team like Newcastle.
Next, they will face Milan and Fulham, two matches that I don't think will be easy for Newcastle. but I don't expect them to receive another losing streak. Hopefully, they will soon improve their team and strategy.
Yes maybe we can say now that the team is "Newcastle class" because of their improvement in the last few seasons. Their defense has been one of the problems this season, apart from their midfield which has not been able to show anything promising to maintain a balance between defense and attack.
They can improve that by bringing in players who have good abilities in the transfer market later, because their financial capabilities are also good now, so I think they can afford to be able to buy quality players.



This is obviously a bad time for Newcastle United as they have already conceded a high number of goals in the English premier League. Without diving much into the champions league, we should also understand that the next opponents of Newcastle United in the English football is Fulham and lately Fulham has been scoring very high number of goals. This is not a good sign for Newcastle United.
They are still in the Champions League and still have a chance to qualify. But with their curent situation, it will be even more dificult for them. Because at the same time they have to make them qualify from the group stage and they have to improve their performanc, especially in the Premier League because it will be a very long competition and with a schedule that will be there every week too.
I'm sure as a new club in the Chmpions League, they must want to achieve something good, yes at least be able to qualify and be in the last 16, I think that's already a very good record for them.
2036  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: December 11, 2023, 12:14:44 PM
Leverkusen is still quite lucky, because while they lost 4 points from the 2 matches they played, their main competitor, Bayern Munich, also lost 3 points due to losing their last match so that makes their position at the top of the table still safe for the time being. But they also have to prepare themselves better, because now the pressure that comes will be even stronger especially after the first round ends.
Usually entering the second round, the strength of each club will change, some can be better some can not. They must ensure that they will be part of a club that can be better when entering the second round so that they can compete for the title this season.
Bayern's surprise defeat gave Bayer the lead even though they dropped points against Stuttgart. I can’t understand what was the reason for Bayern’s poor defensive performance, in the previous 12 rounds they conceded only 9 goals, and in the match with Frankfurt they conceded 5 goals. I doubt that the reason was that the field was slippery, most likely the reason was the poor performance of the Bayern defense, in many episodes they were static, and the Frankfurt players caught their courage.
It's a difficult question to answer, all I can say is that maybe they lost concentration in this match and conceded a lot of goals. Out of 6 shots on goal, 5 of them ended in goals which is a very good percentage of the chances Frankfurt had.
The statistics of the match show that they lost to Bayern Munich, but unfortunately it is not the statistics that count, but the number of goals. Whether they scored more goals than their opponents or not.

Bayern Munch must evaluate the defeat they suffered in this match to make them better in the upcoming matches. This should be their motivation and should not be something that will disturb their morale.
2037  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: December 11, 2023, 11:54:39 AM

I don't think this can happen, because we all know what Bayern Munich's strength is and they lost. Actually losing is a normal thing, I can still consider it a normal thing when they only lose narrowly, like 1-0 for example, but in this match they really lost with a very heavy score, 5-1. This is an advantage for Leverkusen because they can be 3 points ahead now, when passing week 14 they have the opportunity to be able to widen the distance to 6 points even though Bayern Munich still has 1 match superior to Leverkusen later.
Defeat is a normal thing in a match, even a team that looks very strong does not necessarily appear tough when facing a weak team, surprises always happen and Bayern Munich's first defeat was very embarrassing with a score that was completely unexpected, Frankfurt must be very proud to be able to beating the Bundesliga giants which Leverkusen and Dortmund couldn't do.

And in the match against Manchester United, I am sure that Bayern Munich will not repeat the same mistake by losing even though Bayern Munich have secured their position t ::)o qualify the group stage, but if Bayern Munich does not come out as winners on Matchday 6, that is still not enough for Bayern Munich, Bayern Munich will not give Manchester United a chance to qualify for the Champions League especially as Manchester United has just suffered an equally embarrassing defeat but Manchester United lost at home Roll Eyes
Yes as I said before, it's a normal thing when they receive a defeat, but with the score so crushing I can't believe it can happen to them.
In the Champions League, they are already very safe and actually they only need to wait for who will be their opponent in the round of 16 later. But even so, surely they will maintain their prestige not to lose to the Premier League club, Manchester United. I don't think they want to be beaten, but they also won't be ambitious to win because it will be a risk for them, and I think this is an opportunity for them to keep their players from unwanted things. So a draw will probably be their target.




i think still dificult can get europa league ticket
because until now still fourth rank, and last match meet bayern munhen is very dificult can win, i think last match meet bayern munchen . manchester united can lose
Whether they want to go to the Europa League or want a place in the round of 16, the scenario is still the same, they need to win their last match. The only difference is that they will not depend on the results of the match between Galatasaray if they want to go to the Europa League, except when they want a ticket to the last 16 of the Champions League they depend on other matches.
I don't think they have to think about that scenario now, but what they have to think about is how they can win the match against Bayern Munich later, that's all.

Their focus should not be divided and should only focus on their matches, because if their focus is divided, it is also not good for their mentality.
2038  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 11, 2023, 11:34:34 AM
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Manchester City made me really worried about them for once during the Luton game. Because when I saw Luton scoring first it was quite surprising to me. I know how their condition is in the league these days. But they played against one of the easiest teams to beat. They won the game maybe but it should have been much more comfortable than that.

Haaland wasn't even in the squad today by the way. I saw it like he was injured but this wasn't much convincing to me. Maybe Guardiola just didn't want to bring him to Luton. But there was no need for him to win the game of course. Alvarez filled his place nicely.

I think, this injuries is really affecting the Manchester city players and it has made them to look small to some small teams they used to defeat with many goals with so much strength through out the match. Many people nearly lose hope in this match when Luton Town gain access to Manchester city goalpost to scored first goal to lead the match1-0 for the favour of Luton Town in the first half. But despite Erling Haaland was not among the players, they where able to succeed to defeated Luton Town 1-2 in the second half to prove to people that they will soon return back to the first position in the premier league table when their potential strikers recover from their injuries.
This victory is very valuable after they could not win in 4 consecutive matches. Even though they had to fall behind first, they managed to turn things around in the second half and make them win. Overall, nothing has actually changed from Mamnchester City's appearance, it's just that now they are quite declining in terms of scoring goals. I don't know what the main cause is, and one of the things I got from my analysis, the enemy began to know how they attacked and created goals, so the opponent began to anticipate the very dangerous things done by Manchester City.



Finally Tottenham have managed to put an end to their bad streak in the Premier League by a great performance.  Smiley  They played very dominantly against Newcastle home and had a great day at finishing as well. Richarlison and Son were in their good days to carry their team. Richarlison scored 2 goals while Son had 1 goal and 2 assists.

I would have liked to see the same performance from Tottenham against West Ham as well. But this is still a good step forward for starting to recover. Next time they are facing Nottingham away which is technically a more comfortable game. The winning streak should be continuing.
Just like Mamnchester City, they got a very valuable victory this week and can make their morale even better. It is a very difficult thing when they are at the top of the standings and after that receive consecutive negative results and ultimately place them from the top 4 of the standings. To be able to get up and be able to win again like this is really something difficult, especially the opponents they face are also opponents that cannot be underestimated.

On the one hand this is a good result for Tottenham, on the other hand this is bad news for Newcastle because they suffered another painful defeat in this match. Yes this is their 6th defeat in the Premier League and is their second consecutive defeat, and is their 3rd defeat in the last 5 matches.
2039  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: December 11, 2023, 11:13:43 AM
I think PSG will still win the league in the next few years. Nice's chances of winning the title from PSG will be very difficult. Look at the goal difference between PSG and the other teams in Ligue 1. It's clear that it's very big. Nice scored very few goals among the top teams in the standings. But they also conceded quite a bit. Are they a team that is as good at defending as the teams in Italy? They are the team with the fewest goals conceded in the league.
It's hard to break the dominance of Paris Saint Germain because they have everything that makes them better than the rest. We've always seen that their goal-scoring ability is good every season, and this season is no exception. They are also strong in defense, although now they are not the strongest, but they are still one of the clubs that fall into the category of clubs that have a strong defense.
I also predict the same thing every season, that Paris Saint Germain will always be the main favorite to win the title in every season. Actually there are moments when other clubs can stop the dominance of Paris Saint Germain, but again when they get the opportunity they are the ones who slip and in the end make Paris Saint Germain always the best.


Nice this season is strong in midfield and defense. but that does make their front-line not that strong in terms of goal productivity. this season may be too difficult for Nice. but they are aware of the team's shortcomings, and next season, if Nice can maintain the squad and of course add a good striker in the attack line, Nice will compete better next season.
Nice very rarely wins with a very large number of scores. even when facing weaker teams. so they are quite safe when winning with a small score. and that is good enough for their position in the standings.
I think Nice has a solid defense. As you said they lack in the attacking aspect. If they are able to secure a place in the top 3 and secure Champions League tickets next season then of course that will make it easier for them to find a good striker. I think this season is the right moment for Nice to develop the club's game and performance little by little.

PSG has a lot of money. They can bring in any player because they can offer fantastic salaries. But I don't think teams with a lot of money can always maintain the consistency of their game. I don't have much hope for other teams being able to defend the title but I really want there to be proper competition in Ligue 1.
I've said this before, that one of their problems is their lack of goal scoring. Their defense is very solid and it is evident that they have only conceded 6 goals in 15 appearances so far this season. Conversely, they've only scored 16 goals, meaning they're averaging 1.06 goals per game. In my opinion, it is something that cannot lead them to be able to compete strictly for the championship. Because when they do not concede goals, but they cannot create goals, it is a result that makes them unable to win 3 points. Whereas in every match 3 points is something they must get in order to maintain their position and even to improve their position.
2040  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: December 11, 2023, 10:57:09 AM
If Sevilla qualifies to play in the UEL tournament then I think I'll even prefer them as the potential winners of the tournament to Liverpool cause they've got more experience than any other team in Europe when it comes to the Europa League Tournament, like you said they've won it the most and there's a high tendency for them to win it again, based on their experience, well there's no doubt that Liverpool is a potential winner of the tournament but they've got lots of work to do to achieve that cause the  tournament is about to get interesting.
Sevilla are one of the best clubs in the Europa League, they have won the most titles here. But they will now find it difficult to stay in the Europa League, as they need to win their last Champions League game away to Lens. A win is the only way they can qualify for the play offs. They only have 2 points in the Champions League, while Lens have 5 points. It will definitely be very difficult for them, because they will play with the status of the visitors too, especially the pressure will definitely be on their shoulders, because Lens only needs a draw to make them able to be in the play offs.
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